A Numbers Game | February 9, 2026 | Hour 3

0:00The numbers told the story to Alex now swandles idiots who believe in analytics. This is a numbers game with kill I like Xander gone V said hour number three of a numbers game at V said these sports betting at word V said calm game plus I hard radio YouTube TV and of course serious XM channel 158 kill Alexander Kelly Midland in the house My last hour here before I go on a little jaunt. I'm going to wear all my people go Kelly South Florida All my people we have a big meeting there We'll do you yeah, we're gonna first first item on the agenda is hey Robert Kraft I know you meant well, but come on. Let's do better commercial next time. It's first item on the agenda We get tweets of me to the book golfer life. I guys love the show check out Patrick Reed I've been on him the last three weeks. He's been plus money to start the weeks Nice you on board with Patrick Reed. I don't I mean I as you know, I don't really do anything TP world tour. Yeah, he's been playing you get on what we'll be making his PGA tour debut again here That's right Jeff Levine before the game to me may look to more like the guy you were happy was dating your sister rather than the dude

1:05Who's ready to do anything needed to win? Yes went straight to more Pat's team total under it was a live betting boom Once again if we could if we could flash up again the the pre flop in the live bending I appreciate it But it all for me and all stem from what I thought the pre flop final score was gonna be and then Everything you saw with your eyes it Kelly asked earlier Where did you ever think that we ever sad that the sea hawks were leaving points on the board With the field goals and the real answer was no I mean, I really it was like how are the Patriots gonna score in this game Those are all the pre game bets. Those are all the live bets made It was just a betting bananza in that regard, but I will say this there was some you know, there was some notion Let's let's let's do the Drake made defense part of this There was some notion that the the shoulder was worse than people were letting on that he injured in the Broncos game and Drake May yesterday after the game right he sort of said he goes, I don't know I couldn't feel much Because he was shot up, but he also said it's no excuse. I you know, I'm out there so I can still play. Yeah, so I don't know

2:07I mean, you know it's isn't he said it's no excuse, but it sounds like you're making excuse Yeah, but you know based on our last conversation from the last hour it was from the last segment It's funny because Kelly said we were talking about you know football and small samples eyes. You said it As you in the break where you're like do we really know how good the Patriots are there's I mean I got to the Super Bowl I'm not sure we know how good they are. I mean I was going nuts about the Panthers are the best example this season I mean it like we hit like week 13 I was like I am not getting involved in any Panthers game on or against because it's every time I load up against them I think I'm betting against a crap team that pulls something out every time I bet on them They look like that absolute crap team and it's the Patriots. We mentioned the schedule from before the season started But it being light and I think it was tough to make it was tough to really figure out how good that team was we just got to the Super Why still don't know still don't know that's why I like I find people who you know Rail on football analytics. I don't think football analytics are as good as baseball analytics But I find people who rail on them it's sort of silly because wouldn't you want to have something?

3:12Yes in your toolkit for a small sample size sport More than than just giving that getting that perspective. That's just me JP Roberts Just Scott does Scott Hansen take his Drake May poster off the ceiling above his bed during the off season or is it a permanent fixture? That's a good boy. He'd probably take it off now, huh? Boy Drake May does anything remember that all those weeks this year where I would like point out Drake There was like normal things that a quarterback would do in Scott Hans would be like, oh Drake May Oh, what a recognition to throw that ball away. It's like Scott you're doing play by play for Redstone stop We don't need your comment Rules for society the patriots are who we thought they were great Sunday But Seattle a lot of what Bet Seattle a lot of ways in game in game and had partly them to win every quarter I won my first DFS contest too nice. Thanks all it is and there you go rules for society well done and Jeff Isaacs I had my worst NFL season years seems like I had plus CLV in most spots and couldn't buy a W have to accept it learn from it and move on Jeff I didn't have a good year either in the NFL. I did not

4:13Yeah, I'd have to go the Super Bowl was darn great I'd have to crunch the numbers on mine too. I still didn't done that. I'm gonna guess though. It's one of my I'm gonna guess it was a small loser, but one of one of the worst seasons regular seasons I've had a while, but then you never know how this especially NFL's not as many games, right? So you never know how this stuff's gonna go with some of your futures gonna work out well for you Like it did for me this year Stafford and the Seahawks would in the NFC were huge So it's gonna make it a winning season, but yeah regular season bedding wasn't that great Stafford 45 to one for young Kelly Bidlin, so there's no time like the present to look at MVP odds for the 2026 27 NFL regular season and I was just saying that before the break it I think you agree which is We remember these obviously you made that bed in the off season and I remember Matt Brown making an MVP bets early when we did primetime action Matt Brown who'd be in this chair starting tomorrow for the next couple weeks But I don't remember it being out the day of the Super Bowl me either No pressure on Matt the last time he hosted the show he brought up Stafford 45 to one

5:16So that was that last February that was last summer You're out last summer. Yeah. All right. Well, I feel like over the couple weeks after the Super Bowl You see this stuff slowly trickle out, but I don't remember a day of draft Kings waste no time Here are your Super Bowl excuse me here are your NFL MVP nothing to do with Superl here Your NFL MVP odds for next year regular season Josh Allen Is your short shot at plus 550 and Lamar Jackson second at plus 650 the two guys who vied for MVP Not this season, but the last couple seasons before that Each getting one There they there you go back in the saddle plus 550 on Josh Allen plus 650 on Lamar Patrick Mahomes just in Herbert Joe Borough Drake May all four of those guys Mahomes Herbert Borough and May are all 10 to one Herbert with a good offensive line Next year right the injuries will be behind them talking about Slater and Alt Hmm interesting Kelly's not gonna bet it. I'll tell you that

6:18That much I know you're not upset. You're thinking it's all these four 10 to ones are not created equally in my mind Yeah, give me Patrick Mahomes Joe Borough over Herbert and May yeah Joe Borough Do you think he and the Bengals have a successful season? No, I can't think of anyone losing on Bengals bets Patrick Mahomes again will he be back for the opening game. That's the only that's the only bugaboo with Mahomes right at 10 to one And then there's Drake May who's now gonna not gonna play the 30s the schedule since 1978 would you bet him at 10 to one? Dack is 13 to one The reigning champ Matthew Stafford you can get about 14 to one this year. He said he's coming back Jordan Love and Caleb Williams are both 15 to one Brock Pertie 18 to one and JD five JD Daniels 20 to one I'd love to take like I'd love to take a fire on a Caleb Williams or a jade and Daniels But I'd need a longer number than that. Yep me too Me too Like I think they could be in the mix next year But when you're when you're comparing to Josh Owl in the Mar Jackson Patrick Mahomes Joe Borough

7:21If you hit those if you let's say you bet them and you win and you get it. Let's say they end up MVP You're gonna be pumped because you won But there is gonna be a thought in your head you're like I can't believe I only got 20 to one on this JD Daniels But I can't believe I only got 15 to one on Caleb also maybe we're dead wrong Maybe these were released at the same time like last year But like it feels like these numbers are gonna wildly move from now to start of the season right like would you bet anything here? No, if I had to though will play our normal game if I had to it I think it is probably one of those 10 to ones I mentioned Well, I mean it would be if I had to bet something today would be Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes or chill Borough I think for me it's Mahomes or Herbert I think those that to me those are the most sane bets Because Herbert again with an offensive line sure Can't think of anybody who's ever lost betting chargers things well and you know But I can laugh about Herbert all I want yeah What do we always say about voters though? We have no idea where they're gonna go You've got you don't want who's gonna go with Justin Herbert with even just a miss is it that's Sam Monson

8:25That's a I've got a built-in. Yeah, you've got support. I've got Herbert. I've got a built-in 2% 2% of the whole vote Uh, I love you Sam Monson. I was the one defending Sam by the way Hey again, he defended himself well until I love that he cared enough to think it through I'd much rather have him then someone who's apathetic like lebitard and isn't and is it baseball hall of fame vote Um, so and then Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes I don't there there's my analysis on Patrick Mahomes Patrick Mahomes is in fact Kelly. I mean the Patrick Mahomes It feels like it feels like when you get the drift on Scotty Schuffler, right? Like I can get double digits on my homes doing MVP. Well, okay How many people you think had Sheffler bets this weekend by the way in in in tournament I bet you We could not have been the only ones Because you know you'd I've talked about this a lot you you are The books are we used to say four years ago. Yeah, you don't like the Sheffler number But wait and see wait and see if someone gets off to a hot star or maybe Sheffler subs is too early

9:29And you can get a longer number the books don't bunch like in the first round or two now You know like we had no you know wait basically to round end around two around three for him to drift far enough James sought on Twitter. I'm so mad at myself for not doing the Kelly Bidlin Stafford MVP picked during the summer I kept saying I'll get to it never did nice hit Kelly Given to fly will definitely find out next year how good the paths really are here are their road games next year Good luck. They also have to play Denver Green Bay and Pittsburgh at home ready for the road games Chicago Detroit Kansas City the Chargers Jacksonville Seattle Buffalo Miami and the Jets wow That is my point ladies and gentlemen That is my point there is no guarantee you ever get back to this to this stage And that's get there is and also I think what we have learned through the years is You know people like to say oh do we really know how how good these teams are? But yes schedule you're where you land in terms of your division That obviously has as always determines your schedule

10:32It really does matter. Mm-hmm. It really does matter We can talk ourselves out of saying that it that it doesn't but it really does I mean look there's a chance that New England schedule flips is so difficult next year that I'm still I'm saying the same thing a year from now. I still don't know how good this team that's right That's exactly right Mike Rouse with mohomes getting hurt in week 15 does he qualify for comeback player of the year Would that affect his MVP chances? Well, he does qualify for comeback player of the year Hey, I'll be listed. Yeah, would that affect his MVP chances? No, I'm not sure what you mean I think I think it'd be the other way right like him when an MVP might affect comeback player of the year chances Yeah, the more I look at this kill Yeah, I said what I said about Herbert Rangers said what you said Kelly. You know, he got a vote The other one. I know there's another guy on here that he might not have been in the MVP race towards the end of the season But he got multiple first place votes and that is one Josh Allen and I don't know that I'll be able to go As soon as the bills show up pulse this all season of adding anybody. I'll probably be a judge You love Josh Allen. Who do you think loves Josh Allen more? You were Haley's time, though

11:35He's most valuable player in football Have someone love you as much as Kelly Bidlin loves Josh. Yeah Plus 550 he's a short shot coming back on a numbers game at visa these sports betting network You're here because you want an edge that's what separates listeners from winners But let's be real mindset alone doesn't get bets home pros win because they've got the tools the data and the discipline And now so can you be some programs you access to the same real time insights the sharps use no secrets no fluff Just actionable info that moves markets tap the link and see why serious bettors are turning knowledge into profit with visa in pro A numbers game on visa these sports betting network Numbers game go out dinner Kelly Bidlin alongside Oh, we get tweets be to the book This is from K flow our survivor guy I says have a great well-deserved vacation. Thank you K flow says. I'll say hello during conference tournament week in March

12:39It's circa home with the best shower water pressure anywhere. I have I was saying this to will on should a bit more last night I don't think I'm looking forward. I don't think I've looked at more forward to an NCAA tournament Since I was a kid wow in Georgetown was in it. This is there's so many good teams this year Can't wait Roads knows what number do you need to bet my homes for comeback player and MVP like you guys were saying about McCaffrey I think a player can win both. Thanks guys for all the fun. I hope you enjoy your vacation kill. Thank you roads knows um We did say that right that was one of the lessons we took away from the awards It was possible that Christian McCaffrey could have won both comeback player the air and offensive player the air If there was ever a guy who they'd give two awards to MVP and comeback it's my homes. No For sure Although I know that what you're asking is just What number would you need to bet him for both? Oh for both well MVP the number is 10 to one I'm not sure would he be for comeback at this point. I what did he miss three games? Yeah, that is

13:41I think that will be a bit of a hindrance Gary tap city 1952 best player in the game Was Christian Gonzalez? He says game would have gone over. He was insane Can I push back on that a little bit because I know everybody was slurping Gonzalez yesterday too He played great. I'm not I'm not downing that he get and Christian Gonzalez for me again I say as a Washington football team fan one of the funnier draft moments again was the washing and selecting a manual Forbes from Mississippi state and before they could finish the sentence the patriots sprinting Chrissy it's almost Not not wasting any time because we've made such a dumb pick Um, that is great when that happens in draft. Well, my next picks in a manual for his music Chrissy it's all I will say this though the plays that Gonzalez made Were by and large on passes that darnled through behind the receiver or We're just poorly thrown or underneath the receiver So Gonzalez was able to make the plays because Donald's passes weren't that good

14:43Does that mean that Gonzalez wasn't awesome? He was but he wasn't quite the player That they were making him out to be does that make sense like darnled allowed him to make those plays my opinion Um And then uh, let's see what's this one from co-fred It's always tough when co-fred is read when someone's reacting to somebody else Oh, Dan Groschel said betting on a running back to win suuel MVP. Oh, so Dan Groschel remember was the guy who wrote the tweet We talked about this yesterday who said you can't bet on a running back because James white right 14 catches Three touchdowns Including the game winner and over time for the patriots against the Falcons and they still gave the MVP to Tom Brady And co-fred said I think this is a great topic to discuss on the show It's just such a hard hobby profession. We never know what will happen or how people will vote. Yeah, we don't when it comes to humans voting on stuff It's tough James white should have been the MVP of that game. I'm sorry. He should have been I'm sorry to use the Kelly Binlin term But yesterday you did have this situation where nobody else besides the entire Seattle defense right

15:44But them accepted No individual defender was going to get the MVP and so there was nobody else on offense that stepped up in a way Including Darnold right who I thought all things being able they would have bent over backwards to vote for so Walker ends up with it James white should have won it back then back in the day. I thought it like like in half time I thought that was still so up in the air and that Darnold was probably still the guy to beat for MVP. I thought Kenny I thought Kenneth Walker Had it Pretty much the way and like I said Darnold hit Barner for that touchdown Then it was like okay, it's not done yet. There was a moment and there was like if Darnold gets one more touchdown pass They're gonna give it to Darnold, but it never happened We we looked at NFL odds for next year for the suit to win the whole thing. How about my conference AFC odds Bill's plus 550 pats and Ravens both plus 650 are you still trusting the Ravens No, Del I will I won't be fading them, but it's gonna have it's gonna be a wait and see Danny Higgins with a yes

16:47Danny Chargers and chiefs both plus 750 Broncos 9 to 1 everybody start with the Texans and Jags a 10 to 11 11 to 1 start the double digits Yeah, let me let me put it this way. I see West ordering is is interesting look at this the Steelers and Colts both down to 22 to 1 They're in the they're in the back half Longest the dolphins 120 to 1 It's not the jets or the Raiders of the Browns or the Titan that's shocking the dolphins are the longest shot at 120 to 1 There you go Reza we did get reports over the weekend that In Calishe has the markets for these, but I'm not really gonna go into them because very little money has been It's great. It's great when you see these markets, but the way you're like, oh there's $600 that's been invested in them, right There were reports. I don't know if you saw both dolphins and cordinals Reportedly shopping to a and Kyler Yeah, no, how many suitors there are gonna be out there for them? Well, wouldn't you is my next question. Yeah, I would better Okay, if you who which quarterback would you be theoretically more interested in you were a quarterback needy team

17:56To a I think I'd go Kyler But I think the answers neither I think both are a long shot from I do it anything in this leak anymore, but I'm with you Dolphins longer than Raiders that is bit of a shock Titans Browns Raiders jets all shorter than the dolphins NFC odds would uh would uh be just real quick got that I'm running to pet the Colts But like did we forget about the beginning of the season and what Daniel Jones that offense looked like they're 22 to 1 Only above the Titans Browns Raiders jets and dolphins. That's why that's why I brought them up Steelers 22 to 1 Colts 22 to 1 the back half of the AFC Wow, what about the Bengals being 12 to 1 Have you have we got to the point where you're sick of giving the Bengals respect? I mean, there's certain the some of these teams, right? You're gonna have a tax. There's mohomes tax There's a burrow tax. It just feels like that at this point I mean, I have no interest in betting that NFC the single digit teams are the Seahawks and Rams both at five to one The Eagles are plus 650

18:57Talk about a team that we'll never know if they'll get back right packers and lions both plus 750 Niners are nine to one And then the double digits begins with the bears at 13 to 1 the bucks because they play the NFC South 17 to 1 Cowboys are also 17 to 1 and then the skins and Vikings are both 30 to 1 Cardinals are right far the longest shot at 120 to 1 that's that feels accurate that now that one's it There's no one close to us bad is that number kind of Every season I feel like we get we get a lot of we get a lot of support in the NFC South for other teams But then we reset the odds for the next season going but panthers 40 to 1 Falcons 40 to 1 what's interesting about the NFC board is Obviously there's 16 teams 15 of them No or think they know who their quarterback is only the Cardinals don't Go up and down that list everybody's got their guy or who they think their guy is And that has more to do with these numbers than almost anything else

19:59Well, I guess what the next team would probably be the Falcons right they they think panics is their guy There's there's no quarter by the way Kirk cousins will not be resigned There's no quarterback controversy in Atlanta Yeah, I mean next though. It's I mean what it's I guess I'd go Vikings Viking Saints Falcons I mean the Vikings still think they have their guys Right, but they might be confident for five games this season. That's my that's what I'm saying is going in the next year The giants think Dart is their guy the Saints think Shuck is their guy the Panthers think Bryce Young is their guy Right, there's no disputing any of that at this point But the Cardinals of all teams are the one that are like we don't know These the NFC odds feel pretty accurate. Yeah, it'll feel a little high, but I don't know who I'd probably put Packers Lions nineers ahead of them To start the season, but yeah, this this feels pretty pretty spot. I agree with West nineers show a lot of value to me Again if you know the big if can they stay healthy? I mean you're gonna have you know I think a lot of people expect bills and Ravens to be back right but man this NFC

21:00It's not like it's getting any easier right out of the Seahawks and Rams are going anywhere I personally would expect the Eagles to be a little bit better next year I don't think the Packers are going anywhere I think the line I think Chris and a lot of people make a great point with Ben Johnson and the Lions But I think when we work in wow easy that schedule is going to be next year I think they're going to be up there still But when we set it with and we look through the super lodge You take the top six from the NFC and the top eight from the AFC and it's a scrum to scrum What was the couch you think you wanted to think I think most like I'm most excited I think to see where the bears what the bears do next year man I mean, that's a hell of a season could you bend up building on that even though they had the old again They had the ultimate hail mayor the hail Miriam payback, right? You're going to win every game the next year. We'll we'll take this game away from you We'll allow the hell Miriam to happen But next year you get to win everything. Yeah, in dramatic fashion So I think that deal is done now What's the couch you think? No, I really nothing applies. Oh, I was looking at two odds Kyler odds But it's like oh, they're posted, but nobody's been in no

22:01No, nobody's investing really $600 literally like six. I can't think of anything I'd rather not bet in more than that. Yeah Is I mean Kyler I think how could remember these sea hawks They were we should probably lead the show with this and we've waited, you know, we should have said this more often This time last year the sea hawks were 60 to one to win it And the patriots were 80 to one. I bet I'm to finish last in the NFC West Kelly Bidlum bet I'm bet I'm to finish last in the NFC West The sea hawks were 60 to one the patriots were 80 to one So You know Who's 60 to one now commanders Vikings for 60 to one to win it all Think how ridiculous you think that sounds that's how ridiculous it was last year That's the national football league ladies and gentlemen in summation Yeah, I mean if you told me one team's that long. I'm kind of shocked. I think I'm going to bet this the colds though

23:04Maybe we really we really forgot how good they were and Kelly they might get Anthony Richardson back. Oh 300 to one MVP coming back on a numbers game A numbers game on fee said these sports betting network A vison pro intro offer and full effects son of now for as little as 999 Daily best bets from vison experts real-time betting splits AI powered props and matchup tools 24-7 live video and full show replays all betting guides included our MLB guide coming out February 17th of vison.com Slash subscribe but check it out Danny Higgins we have you in our ears. Please turn it off. Thank you very much You're hearing that as well. No, I'm not just you. He just wants to whisper sweet nothings to you man Nothing's in my ear all the time Okay, so we by the way we get tweets of beating the book. I was appreciated. This is from Vinnie Vincent Is it possible to still love a bet even though it lost oh, he's showing. Oh, yeah, he's showing me a two-pick parlay

24:07He's got he took the seahawks minus five and a half on an alternate spread and he took Scotty Sheffler At 23 and a half to one live at some point during the Phoenix open What was total payout? He's going to pay 46.6 to one No, yeah, I love bets that I lose all the time. It's very okay Uh, shoot him a gamble and Brent Hurley seven Kyler over 200 percent 100 percent really We just saw Sam Darnell win a Super Bowl wouldn't be shocked at all if Kyler bailed out with the change it balled out Pardon me with a change of scenery. I would be Dude, what is the I did catch a stat the other day We do forget like a few years back Danny. Please get out of my ear. I think it's him It's him Josh out and like him dude and the only ones with like double digit Like to have double digit rushing touchdowns in passing touchdowns in a season of course Josh owls Don't like six times at this point. Yeah, but Kyler still has one of those seasons Oh Twiled Do you okay over there? Finally John Massey

25:08I was like how do I keep conveying this John Massey annual tradition of betting on the Falcons because they have some of the most top And talent the league and no longer Rahim Morrison charge. I hear you. Hey, man It's a tradition unlike any other betting on the Falcons It is it does crack me up though that we do like someone makes a case for the Panthers of the Falcons every year There's not much that's changing with those rosters of their that log chance copper pot. Don't think I forgot you chose the Seahawks to finish last Mr Bidley Yeah, I sure did he's a Seahawks fan. I think it's I think it's worth saying though kill This is it's like that is a great example of Small sample size NFL And we bring it up every year week three week four week five week six when are you getting off your priors from early in the season? And that was absolutely how I viewed the NFC West going into it And the Seahawks were what the best team against the spread they made me up as but more than enough money in the season And then I hit that six to one for them to win the NS also Yeah, and let me just say this even though I didn't bet would Kelly bet. It's not like I was it's not like I thought he was crazy

26:10No, yeah, you know, and so again it gets back to it's like They were 60 to one and the Patriots were 80 to one Like just think about how you feel about the teams. We just talked about it 60 to one or beyond Also, I know I know I don't have to explain this to chance But like if you go back and listen to me talk about that bet It was all about how the NFC West was going to be so good and someone had to finish And you were right about two out of three teams. Yeah Sean Higgs hey gill Kelly new head coach in Buffalo, Baltimore My homes hurt New England and Denver first place schedules Charger Super Bowl champs or at least AFC division winner. Would that be something you'd be interested in Well Sean you know who you're talking at first of all feel like I haven't heard from Sean all the while Hey Sean hey Sean um Sean here is the uh, I'm gonna go with you're gonna be easier to talking to guild of that uh that one No, I'll tell you. Oh, okay. Here's the chargers away opponents next year Baltimore Seattle the Rams Buffalo Kansas City and Denver Whoo, yeah. What does that sound just me?

27:10Whoo Whoo, it's a little bit of whistle at the end too. It's a little like Wind Burst. Whoo. Yeah, hit the teach the teeth in a bag. Yeah, that's not good. Matthew Maybe I spent all day rooting for Hadecki on the edge of my seat having him at 26 to one And then I spent the last hole rooting against it because I had got her up 66 to one what a wild ride that was I mean it was You know go to that last round like I had McNeilian con pitch I thought it was Maverick McNeely time and then he just like fell off the face of the earth and got her up a shot right up there. Great man. Great week. Got her up. One of the best Super Bowl Sundays ever. And probably the best ever. You had two other football notes that we didn't get to here yet. I love we talk about this game for three hours. Yeah. Oh yeah. I know we've brought it up before. I know a lot of people like to say what I'm about to say. We do not make enough about special teams sometimes. Like this seat. I mean the Seahawks. If the defense was the reason the Seahawks got things home every time the icing on top was just a

28:13nails field goal upon inside the five just continuing to stop and put pressure on this Patriots team. And that was one of the biggest differences in that Rams game too. And we noted that before and how bad the Rams special teams was. How good the Seahawks was. The biggest difference between those two teams and you just start you play out the last few weeks of the season. It's just we still don't give them enough credit. How good that special team. Also we did we didn't highlight it enough during the recap of the game. But that was you know the Patriots were doing their thing early about pinning the Seahawks. Like they have the field position advantage for the first part of that game. And then it flipped. And then it was you know it was Katie bar the door at that point. David Montgomery. I mean how many inside the 10 five yard line did the punter have? David Lee. David Montgomery on Twitter. The people who keep arguing if the Rams were a better team than the Seahawks have an overly quarterback centric focus. Stafford is a better player than Darnell. But it doesn't follow that LA is necessarily better than Seattle either way. They're both excellent teams. And we just talked about it with special teams. By the way, Darnell's biggest contribution yesterday was he never turned the ball over.

29:14Now I don't know how he didn't because there was a couple early. Well really flirty with it. But that was his his superpower yesterday. If he had one was that right. That's all that's all they needed. And you could tell the Seahawks knew that the whole way even in kicking the field was and that gets back to the question of did you feel like they were worried they were leaving points on the board? No. It was just such one way traffic that it was like no, no, just get the points. Just don't turn the ball over. I would even say this. And I agree with I think Collins worth mentioning this a couple of times. If anything, I thought Clint Kubiak who's going to be the Raiders head coach, the the worst kept secret in the NFL. Did you see his quotes after the game? He was like getting about confirming. He's like, oh yeah, I'm going down. I can't wait. Um, I thought they were like way more aggressive than they needed to be at stages in that game. I'm like, wow, they're still throwing here. Just run. So the Rams argument is a bit odd to me. Like this is we've talked a lot this show about small samples. I was excited on the field. And what the NFL season is. What word did we need to see out of the Seattle Seattle LA matchup.

30:18It was a great series of games. One of the best that I can remember in recent years in Seattle. I think definitively shown that they were a better team and the Rams were definitively the second best team in football. Yes. Absolutely. But you weren't first. Okay. Last note because I don't know how we waited this long to I talk about this. Oh, yeah. You and Danny texted me. I think I was using the restroom. Did they show the Gatorade early? I didn't see it till it was actually tossed. Oh, no, they they showed it a little before the toss. Okay. Yeah. You guys are both. No, like then I saw I didn't see it that I saw get dumped on McDonald. What do we have? Like food coloring in there or something? Was that like Chick-fil-A sauce? It was the most yellow yellow Gatorade I've ever seen. Neon. Neon. It was wild. Jason McKinney. Enjoy your vacation. Well, the serve got to give Gonzales some props for his play for the Pats. Yeah. No, I've definitely given him his props. I'm just saying that Darryl. It was Darryl. They ate it at points as well. Sam Jones doesn't agree with me. He says, Gil, love you, man. Totally wrong on the Gonzales thing. As much as I hate the Pats, the pass break up he had on Shaheed was a perfect pass by Darryl.

31:18One of the others wasn't, but the bomb was even the bomb, though, was a lollipop throw. So I disagree even on that. You remember the bomb early where it was just when it was like a loop into the air again. What were you over through? No, no, no. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. Well, the was ever throw. No, no, no, that was under pressure. I was talking about the early one. Maybe we're talking about two different plays. But I'm just saying Gonzales was great. And I believe me I'm making fun of my own team for not picking him. Gonzales is awesome. But I do think Darnell had something to do with it. And chance copper pop my Super Bowl Sunday began with a gotter up outright. Thanks to Kelly and a trophy. Thanks to my Seahawks. Forgot to mention that earlier. Thanks Kelly. What an amazing Sunday for chance. See chance. He was very stand-up. He wrote down your Seahawks last place. But he wanted to point out that you also. It's right. You did him. Chance the great guy. We're going to get you a son next one of these days. Okay, chance. You have an NBA player today. You know, and I got a few. I got my eyes on this is, you know, I know sometimes I've got overnight that I bet there'll always be up at Vecin.com. Some days like today, you kind of want to see where these numbers are going to move where injuries

32:18are going to go. We got a tweet about it earlier. Huge game in the Eastern conference. The two best teams in the Eastern conference in the past three, four weeks. I mean, especially since January 14th, I got those numbers in front of me. Pistons at the Hornets. Pistons two and a half point road favorites in this game. Jalen Durin was questionable last night. Looks like he's going to play in the in this game. Kobe White will be out for the Hornets. They did just recently acquire. You know, this is a great, great, great, great. When we talk about sample size, right? Example of a game. And I think I think I will be ending up on the pistons here. It is nine and a row for the Charlotte Hornets. They are playing amazing basketball. They are the best offense in the NBA numbers. Wise over the past month. This is a step up in competition. I think the Detroit pistons have that chip on their shoulder all season long that they actually got to prove they're one of the best teams in the Eastern conference. I think they will be playing up for this game tonight. It would be Detroit for me. I'm going to wait to see where this number moves.

33:20Though it was three, three and a half this morning when I was looking at it has come down a bit pistons two and a half now. So it might be when I end up on a plan. I will put that in a visa.com or I will just be attacking this one live that a couple others just wanted note here. Jazz and heat. Look, there are a couple of these teams and I'm going to go into more detail on them. We'll probably over the next few days on the show. Some of these teams we're going to have to start picking that kill. I mean, the jazz West brought it up earlier. If you saw what they did Saturday night, I have never seen anything like that. I have a feeling when I get back, it is going to be hard. We are going to be shades of 28. Yes. The blight, the blatant nature of the tank this year. It is is 2018 worthy. It's a back-to-back for Miami tonight, but Dan still. I ain't coming to be end up on them. Coming back. Numbers Game on FESET, the sports betting network. Numbers Game live from Circle Resort, Casino, downtown Las Vegas, Derrick Stevens, Shangri-La on the desert. By the way, Derrick set

34:25circuit it very well on the Super Bowl. Oh, I saw that. I saw that in Bill's newsletter this morning. Yeah, Bill's newsletter. Bill 80s is better. They took it. It was interesting talking to Chris Bennett about that yesterday, though. How close to the game you'd take a big bet, right? Because it matters. That's why I asked. So what did the what was the title? They got a big Patriots. Well, they were supposed to get a big sea hawks bet. Yeah. And the and the person who was going to do that, I was about to say guy could have been a girl. Yeah. The person that was going to do that decided to go elsewhere with their bet. And then they took another huge Patriots bet. So they ended up well at circle. Yeah. Yeah. It is always funny when the book when the book just does business, right? And it's like, oh, we make money either way. And then when they actually have a side, they got a root for it. They're not shutting down this place anytime. Yeah, we get baseball bets moving forward. By the way, all tennis bets will be at Vecen.com slash picks over the vacation. Baseball guardians under 80 and a half wins. Rangers over 83 and a half wins and baseball season longs in McKenzie Gore. Al Sayung at 40 tall one. I didn't want to ask you about that earlier because you will be out

35:30for the next two weeks. Yes, sir, tennis bet. What people should expect just visa.com as usual. visa.com slash picks are subscribers. Will you be slowing down volume? No, no, every day. Every day, there's going to be some and you're not going to go to Delray Beach open person, huh? Our guy who's the umpire, one of the umpire, he's like, come down. I don't think I can between me and him. We can really get you hooked up up there. Yeah. So sell the lady on the on the on the restaurant scene in Delray. Yeah. Yeah. Although I have like, I've told you man, that place is, it's depressed me the past couple of times. Delray. It's just got, there's just condos and office buildings everywhere now. It's just lost a little bit of its beach town. It used to be a secret. It was nice little beach town with great restaurants. I could say that about South Beach. When I was a kid, we would go to South Beach. We used to go back to DCs, made my buddy Tommy and be like, have you guys ever heard of this place? Like it was such a, this is the 80s where it was not like a big thing yet. And, and then obviously it exploded into what it is today. Uh, you, sir, you made three masters. I did. Yes. I mentioned to you this

36:33off the air. So this started a little bit of watching God are up yesterday. And I thought Chris Felica had a great conversation about God are up on Friday. Uh, when he was on, I was like, you know what? I'm going to join Chris. And the masters is usually a place that we look for experienced golfers at. But I think God are up scape could fit this pretty well. So you know what happens with this though, Gil, right? You pull up the book and you're like, wait a second. Like there's another price that just seems really long. And like Russell, headly was the first for some like 60 to what? Russell, headly is like a top six golfer on the PGA tour by my standards right now. So yeah, I added God are up. I added Russell, Henley. And then Maverick McNeely, who really does not have much experience at all. It told you I was, uh, I was pretty big on McNeely heading into this year. The first few weeks have gone well 120 to one. Yeah, I'll take some of that. So yeah, I've got three. Look, this is, oh, masters always arrives. It's always determined. I have the most outrights on because of stuff like this. You're able to see guys and add along. It's up all winter long. It's up all winter long. They're all very, very small bets, though. I you never know. I

37:37would say my CLV with those types of things, Gil, a lot better at CLV and other sports that golf, right? Yeah. Okay. Those guys are a hot right now. God are up could easily go through three weeks where he plays like trash. And you're going to get a better number than that. So it's, you know, for, for the bulls out there, if you actually want to play along, conference tournaments in a few weeks, March madness, Indian Wells thrown in there as well. And it's the masters after March madness. Greg Peterson was on earlier. He had five picks in college hoops. Xavier St. John's under 163. Bradley catching two and a half versus Belmont. Although, did he say he was taking the money line on that too? I'm not sure. I guess it seemed to recall that Southern Illinois, Indiana state is taking the over 144 and a half tonight in college hoops, Balppo and Drake under 143 and a half and UNC Wilmington, plus the one and a half. I thought versus Charleston. I thought it was that one. Maybe skip the point. Just take. Oh, maybe it was that one. You're right. Good to be neither West Reynolds. He's on Xavier plus nine first half tonight versus St. John's. So taking Xavier with

38:38the points first half, Adam Burke in absentia. Adam Burke was supposed to be on the show today, but he is sick. He is not feeling well. So we wish Adam the best. Adam is working hard on the baseball betting guide. And he might be overworked. Clean it up the football season, clean it up the whole Super Bowl guide. I'm sure that guys that work in a ton. Yeah. He's laid out right now. He's on Bethune Cookman minus eight and a half versus Texas Texas Southern. Bethune Cookman still in the meack, I believe after all these years, minus eight and a half versus Texas Southern tonight. And then NC Central minus seven and a half versus Delaware State. Adam dig and deep. I love it with these college hoops plays with some HBCUs in there. So there you go. Those are the picks on the show. Yeah, I'll have, you know, right now we're in Doha, Qatar. I just saw him. Emma Rada Kano just walked off the court. So that one doesn't count. We had four plays last night. End of getting a one in two, but they were all dogs. So it's less than a unit loss on last

39:40night's three tennis play. So not the not the worst outcome in the world. And by the way, one of them, we had Christina Bookes, Christine Bookes, we had, it was on her racket to win it in the third set, six, five. And of course, she gacked it and lost in the tiebreaker. So very easily could have been a two and one. But instead, tiebreaker goes against us NBA, sir. One more time. Minnesota and a couple others. I just got my eye on for tonight. Atlanta catch in six and a half up to seven a couple places against Minnesota. This is three and four and a back-to-back for the Timberwolves. And man, since January 14th, five and eight for Minnesota, they got a very mediocre net rating right now. I think Atlanta might be looking at catching points tonight. And then the last one, I can't wait to watch this game, Cleveland Cavaliers at the Denver Nuggets. The Nuggets right now about a one point favorite lot of lot of injuries to monitor here. Jamal Murray left the last game for Denver with a hip injury. It's nothing serious, Gil, but I'm very, I'm, he's questionable for night. I think it's pretty dang questionable that he plays, even though they're trying to downplay

40:43it. And then Jalen Tyson questionable for the Cleveland Cavaliers tonight and Dean Wade as well. So some guys on the forward perimeter for them. That is something I'll be monitoring will be leaning to Cleveland though and running to jump onto them if Jamal Murray gets ruled out. I probably can't be talked about enough, man. How well that Nuggets played with when Nicole Yokech was out of the lineup and how great of a season, Jamal Murray. They held it up. It really wild. Really wild. The, uh, the NBA can't do anything about this tanking problem, can they? Like there's just nothing to do. So here's the thing. It's everybody immediately goes to, we got to fix the lottery in which, well, I agree. I don't know what the right answer is. No, you know what I mean? Like that's, I know it's easy to say this isn't working and it, it isn't working. I don't know what the, I haven't heard an answer that I think is a hundred percent better people have their ideas, but none of them, none of them really passed the smell test on it. But again, from a betting standpoint, which is again, if you've listened to this show long enough

41:43in 2018, 2018, when Deandre Aiton was the prize, Deandre Aiton who did end up being a kind of laugh, people laugh about that now, but he didn't have being a cog in the, uh, son's team that got to the NBA finals. This was before they altered the rules. And it was a massive tankathon that we exploited betting wise because literally this thing that people were like just screaming about what the jazz did the other night. The Mavericks did it every night back then, right? It's like, hey, uh, JJ Berea, hey, Dirk, why don't you come off the court here, right? In those days and they were in the Mavericks, which and Rick Carlisle would act angry at the end of games like Rick, you know, we know what you're doing, right? So it's not, again, it's not the players on the court. I was roundly criticized for this in 2018 talking about this and betting it. But it's a thing. Now people like, oh, yeah, I never criticized it. No, no, no. People thought it was ridiculous that we would bet against these things. It's not the players on the court. It's the, it's the players that are

42:44being allowed to play the Phoenix sons down the stretch of that year went. Oh, in 27 against other non-tanking teams. Oh, in 27. Yep. And they ended up with Deodre Aiton. Devon Booker that year ended up with a mysterious hand injury. Christopher Leica had the best comment at that. We should have done a one shining moment for the tanking teams that year. We're likely a slow motion on Devon Booker's hand and Carlisle acting, acting mad as the, as a Mavericks coach. But anyway, this year, just to let you know again, this is a, I don't know that there's going to be the quite the success that we had back then doing it. But if there was ever a year where the best betting in the NBA might just be about fading tanking teams, this might be the angle. Well, I think the other, the other pro we've got for this this year is we do have, we do have Calishe. Right. And you can do some of these money lines that you can just get a little bit cheaper, better money lines over there. I think you're going to prove to be huge. So, yeah, some I've got my eye on for sure. I mean, Wizards, jazz, Pacers have all, I mean, recently made trades where they

43:48have specifically protected the top end of their draft. And it's, I think what's gross about the jazz is all those guys played. Right. Like you had your three, the three building blocks for the team going forward, which people should be excited about. Larry Marken and Jerry and Jackson Jr. County George, I like you're just going to, you're going to pull. County George did get hurt. I think you got legit hurt brings us back to most improved player. I think I think he's going to play his way out of it or lack the role of playing, uh, County, George's, they look to sit him. I think it's down to, I think it's going to be down to Denny and Chaelin Johnson. I am worried about Denny and his back and he seems to kind of miss every other game here now. So that's something to track down the stretch, but Wizards, jazz, Pacers, they kind of got my tier one of like watch out for major tanking and then King's Nets Memphis Grizzlies, not far behind. Prop points on the other side. It is John Hanson's last prop points of the season. He gives way to Nick Whalen and Jeff Erickson on prop points tomorrow. I will be going to rest this week and next week Matt Brown will be in this chair. Congratulations again to all who had the Seahawks,

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