A Numbers Game | February 5, 2026 | Hour 2

0:00A number is called the story. I always want those idiots who believe in analytics. This is a numbers game with Kill I like Xander. Go on. Feats in our number two of a numbers game. It beats in these sports betting network. Feats in dot com game. Plus I hard radio YouTube TV series XM Channel 158. Kill Alexander Kelly Bidlin. My little buddy. Alongside on this Thursday morning before Super Bowl 60, drew 10 six standing by. I'm always excited to talk to Drew. I'm kind of more excited to talk to him. Maybe, maybe than ever today. It's up there for me too. It's up there because it's Olympics. It's earthquakes. We got a whole bunch of stuff to get. We're not enough time honestly. The NBA Super Bowl. NBA Super Bowl. He's probably. I wonder if even cares about the Super Bowl at this point. He's flat. I don't think he cares about either one. Shoot him. We get tweets about the book. Shoot him a gambling guild. Do you think the Super Bowl props have reached a point of diminishing returns? I feel like the exhaustion of scrolling menus and comparing lines at some point will result in fewer bets. I don't know if it's diminishing returns. I do think that this game,

1:00if I am just to take anecdotally what I've gotten from random folks who aren't big bettors, from bettors themselves, I don't feel like this game is capturing people's attention for whatever reason. That's just my take on it. Will they, by the weekend, I'm sure they will, but like I just don't feel like it's the most exciting match up to people and that more than anything might be diminishing. What I've heard about people betting. Martal Jay Kelly cannot agree more on Buffalo chicken dip, completely overrated, terrible use of shredded chicken, make it enchilada. Thomas O'Toole. Everyone away from Vegas this weekend heading to Scottsdale to make beer cup steaks of the stadium at the wasted management open. They would eat it there. Jason H 11. My local Mexican restaurant has amazing chips and salsa both homemade. I always get a large order to bring home for the Super Bowl Buffalo chicken dip away overrated as well. He says, All right, I got some backing on this. I thought I was going to get crushed on that. If you can find a good salsa. Oh, it's great. Oh, great. Great. That is, I'm glad you just said. Great tortilla chips and great salsa. There's a big difference between great and just the usual.

2:00Remember Chevy's in California. I don't know if Drew remember Chevy's. We'll get to Drew here. There was a, there was a chain restaurant called Chevy's. I don't know if it exists anymore, but they used to have the greatest salsa in chips. Tronsky, hey, Gil, I know you and Kelly are shocked at how few people are in Vegas this week for the Super Bowl. Honestly, Vegas is expensive. What's the draw this week when gambling is basically legal everywhere? Is it Texas and Cali that float Vegas at all times? Yeah, point we do get a lot of people from California. Yeah. Yeah. Got to listen to Megapod, man. We give a little love letter to Vegas. So it's not, we're not out on Vegas. It's just that it's interesting. It's also not like Super Bowl crowds. Like I'm giving our boat just like, where are the people in general in Las Vegas this week? It's true. And then Buddhist man was good to see casual Kelly on the tail end of Wake Up and Wager with Captain America, Dave Ross and former Mahoning Valley Scrappers Ace Jensen Lewis. You were on the, by the book show earlier this morning. I was, yeah. And then Merle Betts morning fellas. I like that Gills favorite golf offshore site was called W sex.com. Good luck explaining that one to somebody. No, no, no, I swear it's for golf. Have a great day.

3:00Almost Friday. Oh, believe me. We always used to think that when we were using that website back in the day. Drew Dinsick, without further ado, join us now. Curtis is progressive guest line from the LBC where he is about a little later today to take a flight to Munich. He told us off air on the way to the Dolomites for Olympic coverage for NBC Milano Cortina, 2026. Drew could be found at whale underscore capper. Drew, what a day for you. How are you doing, man? I'm doing incredible. And actually it's just a, not to, not to totally correct the record. But I don't even have to work. I'm not going for coverage. Oh, no. She's going to, I'm just going as a fan, buddy. Oh, yeah. Although I thought he was doing some work. Apparently not. I have, I have a lot of colleagues who be there. I'm sure I'll spend Simon and get drinks and stuff. But I'm mostly going as a fan. Yeah. And bucket list, bucket list skiing Dolomites, obviously, just visually spectacular. I pride, I prize that when I powerate my ski resorts,

4:02like I want like a good, you know, kind of beautiful setting, natural setting. And yeah, they've got something for everyone. They, they kind of what they're known for there is like the long touring runs, right? Like you, like the big, um, to do is what's called the Seluranda, which is a 40 kilometer loop around this giant mastiff of, uh, you know, of, of rock. And, um, yeah, you basically just go over valleys from town to town, stop at the warming huts. Um, and, uh, yeah, have yourself a day. So excited to do that. We're going to do that on Sunday. Probably we're going to see the women's Alpine dad skiing, which is phenomenal. I can't wait. Kayla Schifrin, uh, Lindsey Vaughan on one ACL, uh, in a read, uh, replace me. Like that's going to be wild. Um, we'll see some curling. We'll see some loose, uh, and, uh, yeah, it's going to be a great time. Very, very excited. All right. I want to get to the curling question because we got one on Twitter earlier. But let's just start with the bet that you are. I believe based on some DMs I got from, from you in our little group,

5:04the one that you're most sort of deep into. United States, most gold medals. You are heavy on this. Yeah. And mostly just because liquidity was kind of thin in, uh, like the total gold metal markets. But, um, you know, the prices were pretty good to take some long shots on USA to win most gold. Um, and this is kind of a really fun handicap because, um, really, there's just three likely countries fighting for most golds, Norway, USA, and Germany. Um, Germany, I feel, I feel like is being a little bit under, uh, reported. Uh, their dominance comes in the sliding loose, bobsled skeleton, uh, traditionally. Um, but their sliding program is having a down year. This is a down cycle for sliding for team Germany. And, uh, they'll still win four or five golds in, in bobsled. They may win a couple in loose, but, uh, the, the days of them hauling 10 or 11 golds in sliding are over.

6:06Um, and so, yeah, certainly the, uh, uh, Germany, I think, is not realistically a contender for most golds. If they get to 13, I'll be surprised. I played there under 12 and a half that's gotten steamed, but I think that's still a bet if you can find it. Um, which means we have a, you know, really just two candidates for most gold between Norway and USA. And Norway is dominant in cross country skiing byathlon on the men's side. They really struggle to have weirdly on the women's side. Sweden and France tend to pick up a lot of the women's golds in those events. Um, but the thing about Norway is their likely gold haul is pretty static, right? Like, they're going to win a bunch, but they don't really have a big upside swing where, if some of their athletes show out, they could get 16, 17, eight, no, they, they're going to, they're going to land with 14 or 15, like almost certainly. Like that number is pretty sharp. It's probably a little high, but there's not like some sort of like black swan event where Norway has like the games of the,

7:07you know, the games of the century and, uh, you know, they take home 20 gold medals here. That is the case for USA. USA is a much higher variance, uh, you know, kind of gold medal, um, output here. Um, we have a high floor because our figure skating program is likely to bring home four, uh, our long track speed skating guys. Remember when the Dutch used to win every single gold medal and long track speed skating? Yeah. Uh, uh, we have the favorite in men's 501,000 and 1500 and not just like the slight chalk. We're talking like minus 800 type of, if he doesn't win, it's because he fell down or somebody sabotaged him. Um, so it's, uh, you know, we, we have a relatively, um, high floor of eight or nine to start with. Uh, and then the freestyle skiing, uh, and snowboarding is usually where we make our money, uh, in the, uh, gold medal department at these games. And we're going to split a bunch with Canada, but we should get six or seven in there.

8:07So I'm looking at, um, a world where, you know, with no other surprises in Alpine skiing or, um, you know, hockey, uh, or, uh, curling, you know, like no other surprises come through for USA. We're still going to be knocking on the door of 15 gold medals. So this is going to be a sweat. We're going to have a close call. Norway is going to be leading in this market for most of the Olympics, probably. But, uh, there's absolutely a world where we close them down and we take them, take them, uh, take the top gold medal, uh, pull in this one. And, uh, I bet it at five 50, five hundred and four 75 was my last click there. So, um, USA, most gold medals and, uh, yeah, it's going to, you know, vibes around the United States are not great. I'll be honest, not packing a lot of red, white and blue stars and stripes types of outfits. Um, but, uh, I will be, uh, I will be full-throated supporting our boys and girls over in, uh, in Italy, uh, to bring home. I'm all about it. Wow. Holy Eric Hyden on the speed skating comment there as well.

9:10Uh, USA. So Drew's betting it three ways. Uh, you see stack and he's laddering the USA. Most gold medals, uh, bets here plus five 50, five to one plus four 75, uh, USA over 12 and a half gold medals. Also talked about German, Germany being on a down cycle in the sliding events. I never knew we called it the sliding events. Germany under 12 and a half gold medals. The other one you have in here is Switzerland over five and a half golds. Yeah. They're, uh, their skiing program is peaking right now, particularly the men's alpine side of things. Um, I have them coming through with three gold in the men's alpine. Uh, and then, uh, another three in freestyle skiing with, uh, like seven or other likely podiums, which could be gold. Um, so Switzerland's another, I don't know why I put myself through these like really low totals where you have, you need these narrow windows. And there's not as many shots. I did it to myself with Spain and the summer Olympics. And I'm doing to myself with Switzerland here, but yeah, I got a lot of sweets. Switzerland over five and a half golds.

10:10And, um, the, uh, the word on the street is that they're going to be very, very well supported by, uh, hometown fans who are making the trip over, uh, trip over the passes from the Swiss Alps to the Italian Alps. But, um, in, I couldn't find any Italy over if I could have, I absolutely would have taken that. That number was two. Oh, um, but I got nothing there. Uh, if I could have found some, um, uh, if I could have found some, uh, France over, I would have taken that as well. But that wasn't really available anywhere either. So it was a pretty, you know, who else, uh, great Britain. Um, the Brits are going to get a couple of golds in this one, including, uh, Skeleton Breakouts star, um, Max Weston. Uh, if you don't know what the skeleton is, it is headfirst lose going 90 miles an hour on the ice. Again, typically dominated by the Germans, but here come the Brits. They have the best Skeleton slider in the world. Um, uh, just for completeness for individual, you know, watch out for this guy.

11:10Um, uh, there's two of them. They're both dudes. Jordan Stoltz is the, is the long track speed skater who is likely to win three golds at least two, maybe three. Uh, and then we already talked about Ilya Malin and who is, um, the, uh, quad god. That is his nickname, the quad god, and not because he has amazing quadriceps. It's because he can do quadruple flips like they are, um, you know, relative, like, like he's skipping. It makes it look easy. Um, and that alone will, uh, almost certainly propel him to men's figure skating goal. The Winter Olympics as John Stewart said, less sports than they are drunken dares. More withdrew next. You're here because you want an edge. That's what separates listeners from winners, but let's be real mindset alone doesn't get bets home pros win because they've got the tools, the data and the discipline. And now so can you be some programs you access to the same real time insights the sharps use, no secrets, no fluff, just actionable info that moves markets.

12:10Tap the link and see why serious bettors are turning knowledge into profit with visa and pro. Thank you. I'm. And I frantically searching for winter Olympics bets. You're all fair. Like you said first, so now Kelly first you go to Alpine skiing and you find downhill skiing winter Olympics. This is like the horse raising. I need the horse name number track. Drew did say kind enough to join us for a second segment whale underscore cappers where you can find them on Twitter. I failed to even mention he does two podcasts. Of course, the deep dive with any monitor and NBC sports bet the edge, which he does with Jay Croucher. Drew joins us once again. I have one more one more winter Olympics question that I want to move on to some other stuff. Bobby Getty's asked earlier drew if and when Drew comes on. Can you ask him about curling Ken Palm? Because remember Ken Palm, right? Ken Palm or former weatherman, my favorite, not only does he do college basketball.

13:13He does curling. Ken Palm has USA mixed doubles as the best team and the favorite Italy isn't ranked anywhere. I've seen USA between plus 450 and 10 to one Italy from even money to minus 75. Am I crazy or do you have any insight? You know, I tend to leave curling to the Ken palms of the world. There's a lot of really, really sharp curling originators. I'm not kidding. It's so great. Like you look across the sports and like obviously the ones that I pay attention to that occur in the intermediate in the interstitial timeframe, right? Where I'm, you know, I watch, I watch the FIS downhill just, you know, events just because they're spectacular and you get to tour Europe just like watching tennis. You know, you're like, oh, I'm transported. But I'm traveling, you know, just watching these events. Yeah. You know, so, you know, if you're following in the off Olympic time, time window, you have much better sense of what's going on.

14:16But yeah, I think the curling is somewhat not solved, but like there are super sharp originators out there who I would lean to for advice that's not me. And Ken Palm certainly is, Ken, my opinion, at least the principal market maker for a lot of this stuff, the Italian mixed doubles team is probably just a little bit off their Rudy's radar because I don't think they have competed very often together. But they're still like kind of in the mix, top 20 in the world, maybe top 12. So at their, you know, and home, home, you know, the home country bump in the Olympics is 100% real. It's real. Yeah. It's real. Like no, no question. It happens every time. Okay. I think about Ken Palm, Royce Curly, it's right. That's right. Maybe he has a rant about it. All right. This is a, it's a non sports question, but you can bet on random earthquake stuff at prediction markets like Calche, you are a seismologist by trade.

15:17Yeah. I've gotten a tweet about this again. Forgive me for not crediting because I can't remember who was the one who loaded me to this. But there is a rash of earthquakes happening in California. Should we be worried about this at all? The easiest, easiest prediction you're going to ask me to make on the show, Gil. There will be an earthquake in California. Yes. No, I know that today. You said today. Right. Of course. Yeah. Of course. But this is, this is probably a, it'll probably be a two or three. Oh, one. Okay. So you know what? We're going to have, we're probably going to have about 300 twos, maybe like 33s, maybe a four. Okay. Both of those cranes quit, quit size mullaging me to death like that. I just want to, is this more activity than normal, though? Is that what's happening? Slightly. Okay. Okay. You know, looking at the locations and looking at like the long term frequencies, this is entirely within the normal kind of range. Absolutely. I think the fact that they had some non-trivial, like you could feel it earthquakes in San Francisco

16:19when a lot of non, non-traditional, you know, folks with, with platforms are all there to experience it is probably elevating the awareness and the consciousness a little bit. Good point. But, you know, if, you know, the San Francisco sits on a peninsula that is born by the San Andreas fault. Yes. That's the only reason there is land there is that San Andreas fault has elevated that, you know, that piece of what would be otherwise be under pacific ocean up so that you can put, you know, put a city on it. And San Andreas fault is actively creeping very close to that area. You will certainly have seismic activity and, yeah, it looks to me at least like the stuff that's happening up there is pretty normal. Okay. There's, yeah, there's a 4.7 off of patrolya, much further north in San Francisco that's part of a subducting plate at the triple, the Mendocino triple junction, you know,

17:22sure. The triple junction. The Mendocino triple junction. Yeah. Yeah. That is always something I look at because that is the terminus of the San Andreas. So if you get increased activity there, like that does kind of raise my eyebrows a bit. So, yeah, it would be wild. If you've been in San Francisco long enough, unless it gets to a five, nothing phases us. It's been through a mall. You know what? Yeah. It would be pretty unheard of to have a major earthquake in San Francisco while they're hosting a championship event. Oh, no, don't say that. Don't say that. Don't say that. Don't say that. Say it. You put it in the universe. Don't do that. Oh, boy. I want to know something. Hey, Drew, when you sit through an earthquake and actually feel it, how close are you to guessing exactly what it is on the Richter scale? I can usually get within a half, a half unit with a half unit. Yeah. Yeah.

18:22Like, like I could call like that was a five three and it'll be between five eight and four eight. Okay. I thought you meant like five, two and a half. I mean, yeah, no, we could do that. Hidden San Francisco, too, by the way. I was actually expecting a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was going to be more on it. Some of them are rolling. Yeah. Yeah. The big, the big kind of, the key indicator is the time of the shaking, right? How long is it lasting, right? Like if you could, you, you, you rough, I start counting immediately in my head. If it's around 10 seconds, then you're like, okay, well, that was at least a six, but you never really know how far away it is and the distance is ultimately is, is, you're blind to the distance. Right. And that is, you know, that, that's going to get you that half, that last half of accuracy. The rolling ones you have time to process, you're like, oh, this is an earthquake, right? Then there's, there are some though where it's like a higher power puts his hands around your building and just as long as shake and those are terrifying.

19:23That's all nothing. All right. So thank you for, yeah, because you never know if that's the, if that's the arrival or if that's the whole thing. Right. Right. Right. Is that so? And as that Cohen says, a new name for the segment, Earth takes, Earth takes. All right. Super Bowl 60 drew. I know you wanted to be in the country for this. Are you even going to watch? Do you have bets? What have you done with this? I have skied your once in my life. It was Patriot Seahawks one. Oh, wow. So this is a little crazy. That'll be there again for Patriot Seahawks too, Electric Boogaloo. It does, it does feel like there is a little bit less of a kind of buzz around this for some reason. I heard all your commentary and I, I could tell you like, like the vibes in Radio Row were pretty low. I thought it was a little bit less like celebrity there pitching stuff, presumably because there's a little bit less economic money supporting, you know, go pitch my enterprise.

20:24But it does feel a little bit like we're going to need a good reason to watch this one. And the consensus was very strong across all of the experts and analysts that I talked to in person that this is Seahawks are going to walk it in. The consensus was also pretty strong that this could be a bad game. I think it's not trivial that we are in week two here and we're seeing the total get bet down pretty aggressively. Now some of that is that the weather has changed in a surprising way. Like there was pretty strong model consensus that this was going to be a good weather super ball. And now it looks like we may get rain. But I, I just, I kind of generally agree with the crowd here, which means that there's probably not some sort of massive betting angle to be had. I think the matchup is pretty straightforward. You, you know, the take the potential for a black swan, Drake may shoulder injury out of the equation. He's still going to have a very, very tough time succeeding against the Seattle defense because there is a low probability that the Patriots rushing attack is going to be effective

21:27and successful. And this one, which means it's entirely on Drake May to cross the street 100 times to score touchdowns. And Drake May is more of a, you know, he's a boomer bust quarterback. He's going to have significant negative plays with sacks and fumbles. And he's going to take shots and try to hit a home runs now. The Seattle defense can be had through the air. There are a little bit of a past funnel. But I'm expecting that McDonald is going to have largely have a, a game plan that confuses May makes him take a beat, confusing with coverage, confusing with puts, you know, let's let's disguise to the tune of he holds on the ball a little bit too long. And then the front, you know, the front four for Seattle gets there and get some strip sacks. And just in general causes enough, you know, explosive negative plays for the defense for the Seahawks that the Patriots have a very tough time scoring in this one. My favorite like you, you want to bet to tell your friends about in 20 years is Patriots exact point zero. That's like 50 to one.

22:28And you could tell everyone, you know, for the rest of your betting career that you bet the one, you bet the shit out the first time we've ever seen it in Super Bowl. I think that there's absolutely scope for the Patriots defense to give the Seahawks trouble here, which makes that four and a half a little bit sketchy, but ultimately I'm going to call 23 zero Seahawks overpats. And so I think you are betting this, you are going to bet the shut out. You're going to have some money on that. Oh, yeah, 51, 50 to one. We have never, we've had, we've had two Super Bowls where team ended up with three points. We have never had a shut out in the history of the Super Bowl. Drew safe flight, safe skiing, man, enjoy best luck, guys, enjoy the, enjoy the big game. Drew densick everybody, solid from him, Olympics and beyond. Coming back with NBA or NF, numbers game on Fiesen, these sports betting, we're heading into big games. Sixties, your last chance to lock in the lowest price we've ever offered on a visa pro annual

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24:33Man. As well as we're going to take a hit, get a hit from the sports book as well. Chris Bennett. There you go. Super Bowl Sunday. We'll be here all day coverage right here in visa. We get, we get tweets of me to the book. I'm not sure if you're aware of this. No. A Joe named Jim. I'd recommend sushi bistro in a Richmond for any of your guests asking for a non-secret sushi spot while in San Francisco. Would also recommend to you for your visits, although something tells me you've already been there. I've never been a sushi bistro in a Richmond. I would never have. Thank you for that recommendation. A Joe named Jim Sean Pelley. During the chicken credit card store, I could hear the curbure enthusiasm theme in the background. Killed trying to profile the card to the customer. No, the real which herb your enthusiasm music would have been. If I had said to the guy, what's he, what's he took my money? If I had said to him, so you're going to take my money. Yeah. That would have been the curb. Yeah. I'm with it. Jody Boggs watching a numbers game for my hospital room. Oh, sorry, Jody. Oh, no. In for stomach pain, came out of surgery, finding out they removed a bunch of colon cancer. Wow. Geez. He says the show has been a real escape, love the show and seriously make sure everyone

25:36gets checked. Jody, get better soon. I'm glad they found. I'm glad you went in there. I'm glad they got it. Hopefully, you don't have any more problem with this and absolutely people who to Jody's point. I think they recommend this when you get to about 45, 50 years of age or still to young Kelly. I always check with regular colonoscopies every five years. Chris Heath drove over to Emoryville for Chevy's the other day to learn it doesn't exist. Yeah, man. Chevy's was the greatest place ever in the Bay back in the day. Los Vegas 514, yo, Chevy fresh mechs here at home in anapolis and Hanover in Maryland, Arlington and Virginia, porcelot service, inconsistent food quality. I'll pass maybe back in the day, but not now. No bueno. It says Dr. Van Noesstra ad, Drew just mentioned that Norway will be in the lead early on with most gold. Am I better off waiting for a better number on USA live play? The thing with this Dr. Van Noesstra ad to use the Seinfeld reference is that I don't know that you're guaranteed that those markets will be up mid Olympiad.

26:37I think they put them up at the beginning. I'm not sure you get them again. So I might want to do it now. Yeah, we asked you about that off here. That was his that was his caution. He did. He did say though. He did say like two weeks ago, he was home with us. That was more of the first things he said about the Olympics. He thought there could be some USA value, but it was a little bit almost suggested waiting. I think Drew was getting some bets in now and he was also, I think he, I think he'd be adding too. If that happens, and he gets listed, shoot him again. And Kelly is wrong about Buffalo chicken dip Buffalo chicken. Anything is great. There it is. It was waiting for a while. It's the least. Come on. JC five six two zero seven six. I was in San Francisco for the big quake in 1989 when I was a kid and I was in my grandparents bathroom. The door frame got jammed. I was stuck in there for hours until the fire department came and got me out. Now five point O's are nothing. Yeah, man. That's my, that's my thing. Unless it gets to five, we don't even, we're not even move. We're like, Earthquake. That's how we're used to it. You get it. San Francisco. But man, you were in a, you were stuck in your bathroom for five hours. Talking about the, uh, the 89 earthquake during the World Series when the A's were playing

27:42the giants. Imagine that coincidence. I don't know why. When I think about living, when I was living in LA when I was a kid, the, uh, I, one, earthquake memory. I will never get out of my head. It's just the earthquake happening and a whole family trying to get, get together, get everybody under door frames and everything like that. I just remember, wait, I remember my sister having to be woken up, uh, you know, she was sleeping through the earthquake. It was pretty sizable. And I don't remember how big, uh, and as soon as she woke up, a lamp fell on her head. Oh, no, I don't forget. It was, it was like the comical lamp, like falling on your head sequence, you know, you, you can laugh until you can't. Yeah. Because then it does get serious. Kevin Ryan. Matt humans came up with Mitch yesterday and we canted his first show in Vison with you and the godfather Brent. Oh, yeah, this is our, this was our first ever Vison show. Super bowl, the Super Bowl between the Falcons and the Patriots. Uh, Kevin's goes on to say it was the Pat's Falcons who were all new and Matt had the Pats. Yes, we did. And Brent had the Falcons as he left at halftime. Uh, that's right. I think Matt left at halftime and Brent said to him, turn out the lights, the party's

28:47over. That's right. It was humans and I and Brent in the middle. That was the very first show we ever had, um, at Vison. And then that was the Super Bowl and then we went away for three weeks and then Vison started for good on February 27th, 2017 money gun guzz who did so well in the a millions contest. I live near two great Mexican restaurants that have a bomb salsa, great chips, one salsa smoky. Other has a nice kick. I have Seattle 21 Pat 16. Over the under 45 and a half and can you tell someone at Vison, uh, the app is down where I'll commercial loop. Okay. Yeah. I've got a few tweets about this. We are having video problems again this week, uh, apparently Johnny Ringo with the division winner of the Megapod not being listed. I don't feel as though we can label Sunday show as a best of just saying, Oh, Todd Wishnab now on the Sunday show. So he says, that's why I shouldn't have said that because I have left off several names that are on with us every, how rude, including Drew who's just on, um, geez, he's going to be an Italy. I'm not feeling bad. I don't feel bad. Is the NFL awards.

29:48We get to know if our bets have cashed or if we're losing on these, let's just take a final look at these because these are available on prediction markets like Calci. So there are numbers attached to these. Let's go with MVP first. Uh, shall we do that? Yes. I've got them just pulled up because they are. Oh, okay. So they are per Kelly's phone, um, okay, Stafford. Let's start MVP Stafford is minus 1012 to get this home nine to one on the no price. If you want him Drake to me, Drake to me, Drake to me, Drake may is plus 809 to in this. So that's when we stand with him and you have Stafford at 45 to one, I have Stafford at 45 to one. Good on you. This gets home offensive player of the year, JSN minus 1012. Come on. Yep. Who could have co up plus 1566 and Christian McCaffrey 24 to one. Do you believe that? Do you believe that is that I think he's going to win. Yeah. Do you believe that it's that big of a gap? I do not. I think he wins and I do think it's a, it's a, no, I don't know. I think he wins.

30:48I think anybody look at that comfortably. Like it's so even across the board. Why would he be that big of a favorite? Because he doesn't have Devonte Adams. He doesn't have Matt Stafford. Uh, he also didn't make all the highlight real catches the puked it. He also didn't do all the other stuff. Puked it. I mean, we showed up the stats. I mean, it is dead even. Yeah. No. No. All right. All right. Next up. We're all ready defensive player of the year. Guess what? You cannot bet. Yes. And Miles Gary shocker there. Over. It's all over. That one's been over for months. Offensive Rookie of the year. Wow. I'm more surprised by this movement from where we last checked in. Offensive Rookie of the year. Tedaro Macmillan minus 2400. That got wide as the season went on. And it hasn't really stopped. Well, uh, Jackson dark 24 to one, Tyler Schuck 49 to one. Nobody else 99 to one or longer. So it sounds like it is definitely. It sounds like it's down to two, but Macmillan's the lose defensive Rookie of the year.

31:51Well, this is interesting. I think this has come down a little bit. Carson Schwestinger minus 1012. No big. No big. No big. Nick, I'm in worry. Nick, I'm in worry. Who got hurt. By the way. Was that yesterday in practice? Did you see that, Danny? Yeah. I heard yesterday in practice. I'm going to watch out for actually for a Super Bowl this week. He is nine to one Seahawks safety. And nobody else is in play here. I almost read the next name because it's Abdul Carter 99 to one, but everybody else is 90. Who was the preflop favorite? Yeah. Yeah. Plus 150 for roughly eight months. Yeah. Yeah. From the draft told about. That was weird. He lingered for a long time. Because nobody was betting the market. Clearly, nobody was betting it. Um, okay. This is. Danny, is that come back player of the year, Christian McCaffrey minus 2400? Okay. Minus 4400. I had to check his deck. Press got was nowhere to be found. There were to be a minus 2400 from McCaffrey. Come back. Trevor Lawrence. Really the only other one looks like with a shot at 24 to one. All right. Get to the good stuff. Coach.

32:52Here. Mike Vrable minus 810. Come on. Like McDonald plus 809. How old are you? Danny's helping me out testing these because you don't have to go through each one on the face. So so Vrable's minus 809. Yeah. Vrable minus 810. McDonald plus 809. Wow. Ben Johnson 24 to one everybody else 99 to one or long. So the question becomes it all these are these are these a true reflection of how this is going to go. Do they? So in other words, if those were the numbers, someone would have to know something about votes. I think don't you think naturally though these these favorites are going to be inflated because it's the only place you can bet. Right. It's one of very few places that you can currently bet these awards. Yeah. But I would think people at some point would be like, I'm taking the dogs. If you if you don't believe that people know, then you should be betting some of these dogs. But maybe people do know that's the thing with these prediction mark. You don't know who's leaked leaked their votes that goes that's the other side of the inflated favorites. Right.

33:53The dog prices are going to be big. There's two. If these are too much. Yeah. That's your final look anyway at the markets that exist on prediction markets because obviously legalized sports books. These are gone long gone because the votes have been in for a long time coming back crack at the top of the hour as well. We cap all the bets on a numbers game at Vison. These sports betting network. Back on a numbers game live in circle resorts, you know, downtown Las Vegas skill, Alexander Kelly Bidlin. Follow me on Twitter. Be the book Kelly at Kelly by the lawn. Spell phonetically on there. So here's the thing again today. We got. What is it? So crack coming over the top of the hour. So what is it now? We got. It's a little more than three hours away from the NBA trade deadline.

34:54And tonight it's the NFL awards. Could this all be one big nothing burger? In other words, no, you honest dealt, which is sort of, you know, set at the top of the show. I'm on board with that now. Now the warriors are out. They had the best offer. No, you honest. And then on all the markets we just discussed for the NFL awards, the question, the very simple question is, do you think we will have one, even one surprise given surprise being defined by the odds you just gave? Yes. I do. You do. Which capital? I don't know. I think you left an open ended for me. You left an open end of work. Oh, of course. I think there's life between, well, I'll include it. I think MVP and coach of the year, I think are probably done. It won't be stunned if they go the other way. Oh, you didn't think coach of the year was a possibility for a surprise? Interesting. I think, well, no, this is, I'm including them, but they're, they're a tear above. I think the most likely ones that we would see would be offensive player of the year,

35:58defensive rookie of the, I still, I still can't get that Carson Schwessinger just winning this award and like we're, I don't know, nobody's going to look at, we're going to have two, we're going to have two Browns defenders win it. Yeah, Danny brought up during the break again, like we've brought some multiple Browns are going to win awards. I just want to say, Vrable against McDonald again. They both, the Patriots and the Seahawks had the same season win total, eight and a half. Mm hmm. The Seahawks, do they end up with the same record, by the way, in the end? Um, I do, I already forget that now. Um, okay, the Seahawks end up with, by the way, I think the Seahawks ended up, the Patriots were 14 and three. The Seahawks were also, uh, 14 and three, so they end up with the same record, five and a half games better than their pre-flop season win total. The Seahawks end up with the number one seed in the NFC. The Patriots did not have that in the NFC. The Seahawks are in the tougher conference and in the hardest division in all football. Yep. Why is Mike Rabel that big of a favorite again?

36:58Makes no sense to me. Just because I'm just saying four wins last year. I mean, that's, that's it. Like, that's it. Your season win tells your season win total. Yeah, yeah. That's what we say. That's what we say. That's what we say. One of the 50 people say exactly. That's right. That's exactly. So, yeah, I get, no, but I don't think it's over. I think I think there's still life there. I think there's still a little bit of life for the Drake May fans out there. I think most likely, though, to answer your question would be offensive player of the year, defensive work. And I think Stafford does get the lifetime achievement award for MVP. Okay. So I do with, because I think a lot of voters will just be like, yeah, Drake, make you win another time. I think so too. I think so too. Here are the bets. Guardians under 80 and a half made first this week, and then I took the Rangers over 83 and a half wins. So Guardians under 80 and a half, Rangers over 83 and a half wins. I also had a McKenzie Gore, Ale Sy Young at 40 to one. That Ranger's rotation is spec, tack, you are McKenzie Gore is their number three starter.

38:01I was hoping for a little more than 40 to one, but again, 40 to one is the play. And in the Super Bowl now, hey, look, I have four bets all of a sudden. How about that? Seahawks minus four was the very first one I had. I bought it down to four. I thought it was going to soar. It hasn't. So, you know, I'll take the incoming on that, but I have a Seahawks minus four. Then I did the all Seahawks minus seven and a half plus 159 Seahawks minus 10 and a half plus 208 and Sam Darnell to win Super Bowl MVP at plus 125. I am aligned with most of what we've talked about with exception, right? Some people are on the Patriots, but most of what we just heard from Drew and I've just said it all week. This has 80s early 90s vibes to me, where the NFC teams dominated the AFC teams. I feel like we have that in store. And I thought it was interesting that Drew took the 50 to one on a shut out. Yeah. You sir. What do you got? No, I'm right there with you. I think there's definitely a very good possibility that we see something like that.

39:02Don't know if I have the stones that Drew does, but, you know, stone could be bad. Okay, NBA tonight, I do have one. I will be on the under and spurs Mavericks. This is currently 229 and a half. I bet I'll, I bet it's small last night at a much worse number. Kind of waiting to see where this settles in, because it keeps taking up. And I'm interested in the underkill. So, we'll see. I haven't fired on this yet, but 229 and a half are out there right now. I like it under spurs spurs off a back to back. I know Zach was involved in this game as well. I'll back to back. There's a lot of questions about who always playing for the Mavericks. I hear Zach that yes, most of the rotation pieces should be fine. Go it up against one of the better defenses in the NBA with the spurs, though. The San Antonio, this Dallas team pretty much all season long has been very much met offense, pretty good defense. And man, the unders, unders for San Antonio at eight of their last 10. I know last night's game barely just got over. It looked like it was going to soar over and it barely got barely and that was and

40:03the Celtics game looked like it was going to be way under and it barely got under at the end. But under is in general in the NBA, or is a perilous game play? It really is, man. And the, just like the totals that I bet this year, I bet you it's 80% under this. Yeah, man. It can be a sweat. That's for sure. Wemmond Yammer did add for defensive player the year yesterday minus 105 kind of same story as what we talked about earlier with MVP. I am gambling that when Banyama is going to play enough to get that home. But if he plays enough games, it's his USA. I am tailing drew most gold medals plus 475 just to give everybody, everybody else out there that might be looking for this stuff. I searched here in town everywhere, Caesars had plus 475 by four, the best number left on USA. And this wasn't the five to one range like a week to go. So a week ago. So if you are, you do want to get involved, I would do it soon on that because that seems to be going down, down, down. And you know how it goes. As soon as the Olympics start, everybody's going to be looking for that bet anyways. Then USA over 12 and a half gold medals minus one.

41:06You stole Drew shine as we go through these. Yes, those are all right. And what Drew had to say, oh, you have others. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. Then this week is there a game this weekend. See, I've played it five and a half minus 102, nine and a half plus one 90. See, Hawks first quarter, a half a point at plus one 10 and Drake may over 33 and a half rushing guards minus one 20. It's a game. Yeah. We also had Zach on Andrew Zach Cohen best bets. He's all over the NBA tonight. Hornets plus four versus the Rockets, maps plus seven and a half versus the Spurs, Anthony Black, the Magic over 15 and a half points versus the Brooklyn Nets. And he is one of our few Patriots guys on the Super Bowl. He's taking the Patriots plus the four and a half versus the sea hawks. He doesn't think he's adding anything besides that. Just that play for Super Bowl 60. Oh, the one just to mention on Zach, by the way, I think he did. If you say bet Jordan, not already, I'm going, I'm, I think I'm going to bet that today. Okay. After we talked about it yesterday and I kind of been thinking about this more, I just don't think there should be that big a separation between bigger staff and on.

42:06Okay. Jordan out of the Phoenix Sons in the second shot with JB Bigger staff being the favorite in that market for NBA coach of the year, Drew Densick, shut out to occur in Super Bowl 60, 50 to one. There has never been a shut out in the Super Bowl. There have been two occasions, the deal, by the way, there have only been two occasions where a team has scored three points in the Super Bowl. Most recently, we all remember this Super Bowl. This was during the V. Sinira, New England 13, the Rams three. Remember that one? That sucked. That. Then Super Bowl. Super Bowl six Dallas beat Miami 24 to three. Skins almost got shut out. Super Bowl seven. But then Gary appropriate did his things that ended up 14 to seven. And then Drew's Olympic bets, some of which were you heard in the with Kelly's as well. So Drew is on USA over 12 and a half gold medals. He's on Germany under 12 and a half gold medals. He's on Switzerland over five and a half gold medals. But the one that he is into the most USA most golds, he's got him at plus five, 50's got

43:11him at five to one. He's also got him at plus plus four, 75 and that's a good timeline of like what I've seen here plus five, 50. When we first talked to Drew about this probably two or three weeks ago, that's where the number was at 475 about the best you're going to be able to find. Yeah. Olympic fever. Opening ceremony tomorrow night, by the way, you know, I'm pumped. I mean, Drew's got me involved. I got money involved down. It's on the USA. Let's go. I, you know, we're in red, white and blue for like two straight weeks while you're out. You know, the, I'm going to pull, I'm going to pull West Reynolds. I'm just going to wear a American flag every day. You should. Why not? Who's going to be in the chair with you next week? Matt Brown. Matt Brown. Okay. I'll be here Monday. We're going to sneak preview with him tomorrow. He knows you start on Tuesday, right? I'll be here Monday. He shows the point. We'll talk to three of us. Yeah. Talk to us. Yeah. Let's do the Monday morning afterwards. And then, uh, yeah. You should wear your red, white and blue. That'd be great. I have, I have the Kelly Bidlin proverbial. Many bets to make today. Yeah. You got to make a list, bro. I got a list going. I got my spurs under Jordan, not like Olympic bets to make. Got to have some action on this thing because otherwise, I won't watch any of it.

44:12And don't worry. For everybody else listening out there, we are, Drew will definitely be out next week. And I will, I will squeeze some bets out of him for everybody. Don't worry. Okay. That's, I mean, that's the basic metal bets for Drew. You know, he's going to be firing all, on all types of smaller things with events going on. Oh, he'll have a downhill skiing better too. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to ask some stuff. I'm sure. I didn't know we were, we were, we were the like the figure skating champs this year. Like we're going to apparently be USA going to be great in figure skating. You know, as the other way he said, the speed skating, but like, I mean, a follow-up. Oh no. What happened in those days? Oh, we were the kings of that, of that Eric Hydeni reference to five gold medals at the Lake Placid Olympics. Also featured in that miracle doc on the USA Hockey team, the most recent one on Netflix, because that Olympics was all supposed to be about Hyden when he was five goals and he was like, oh my God, they became the show crack unscripted next on a numbers game.