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I don't want to worry, definitely, good stink on the writings. There's a known fact that his stats go down when the new Carl Duty King lands, and the fact that he hasn't talked to his general manager, and he got Cliff Kingsbury fired, who absolutely adore him, means he would be detrimental. Well the first talk back related Kyler Murray call of duty salvo has been issued. Related for it. Yep, and Ben gasoline from the start tribune start tribune.com access Vikings, the podcast and much more is here to chat about that and assorted football into Vikings related conversation start tribune.com for information. So this for you like your radar, what's the next shoe to drop? What's hot to try out with the football team is, is it quarter quarter back a topic,

Kyler Murray talkers and talk backs today, nine to noon, is it just waiting to or working to get steam on the next shoe to drop and good morning. Good morning. Yeah, there is, I mean, there are several shoes to drop here as there tend to be this time of year with the Vikings, because quarterback certainly the hot topic, I mean, it seemed like everybody I talked with a combine was more interested in talking about that than the fact that they don't have a general manager, which is I think kind of a backward compliment to Rob Brazinski. I talked to one coach. He said, Oh, yeah, I forgot we still needed to hire a GM because I think things have been steady enough with Rob with running them that people feel okay. Well, with the with the general manager, yeah, situation, not diminishing it and making the quarterback the a topic, but I guess I am diminishing it because personally, when the team came out and said, acting GM through draft, what's a non-player, I mean, you know, until at least for two months. Well, yeah, it is and I mean, the other stuff is more timely. It's interesting to think through all the dynamics of who's going to be running the football

department, but the quarterback is the a topic because it needs to get done and it's the level of importance that this is to figure out what they're going to do. So a lot of conversations about quarterback at the combine that will, I think, be clearer probably about this time next week, maybe Wednesday next week when free agency starts, but they have a lot of housekeeping to do before then. So they're going to have to cut players for cap reasons and I think there was some chatter about that over the weekend, people's agents leaking out, hey, they might be available on the open market in a few days here. But yeah, there's a lot of that that has to get done between now and early next week. So kind of looking into those things, what the moves are going to be with veteran players on the roster. And then yeah, quarterback is as it seems to be annually a big topic for the Minnesota Vikings in March. Do do your discernment, JJ McCarthy, do you feel he can be counted on to be a full-time

starter for this football team within the next four years? I don't think they are counting on it at the moment and I say, I say that to say, I don't think they are skeptical that it can happen. I don't think they want to bank on the idea of it happening. I don't think they want to count on it if that makes sense. The thing that Kevin O'Connell said last week about my feelings on JJ haven't changed but the timeline has, I think, was a reflection of the fact that number one, I mean, he needs to win. He's heading into year five. When you didn't miss, didn't make the playoffs this year and there's a lot of expectation that with that contract that he's going to deliver on it. So there's that, but there's also a lot of veteran players in that locker room that want to win. And I think there's an understanding of the number of people I talked to last week that the conversation went into this with Justin Jefferson where there's so much gratitude for how he managed last season, how he approached. He was honest about the frustration of kind of going through growing pains with the encoder back, but he also was pretty quick to say I get it.

I get the overall structure of it. I'm going to be in JJ's corner. I'm going to work with them in this off season, all of those things. But I think there's an understanding of the organization of as good of a citizen as good of a leader as he was, you also want to do right by him. This is a guy that has talked about one in a break records. This is a guy that wants to win championships. This is a guy that still doesn't have a playoff win since he was at LSU. So I think there is an understanding of you have to put yourself in positions for players like that. And then players in the early 30s too, but you know, certainly Justin Jefferson is in the middle of his prime and wants to have that count for something. So could that be JJ? Absolutely. But I don't think they want to go into the season banking on that happening with no other path to being successful. So I think it's where a lot of it's conversation goes is could it happen? Sure. But do you want to bank on it? You know, probably not to this degree at this point did do so with what you just said.

And then things Kevin has said on or off the record did. Do you think they're looking at it like a this shouldn't have been the 10th overall pick in the draft and B we got to correct it now like like we whipped on the pick. I don't think they think they whipped on the pick. I think they feel like the timeline is probably a little longer than maybe what they expected or at least in the injury certainly plays into that. But you had a lot of things last year where it was things they would try to correct. And then you do that with the hope of the expectation that okay, we've got this corrected. We've talked about it. And then it's going to get better and some of those things did. But some things I think took longer than they probably would have liked. So it's a question of how much progress can you expect somebody to make in one off season? Can it go from where it was, even with hints of improvement towards the end of the season to where it needs to be? I mean, this conversation last we go to a baseline level of quarterbacking. You know, is he going to get to that baseline through one off season?

I think that's the question. And I think there's a little bit of a thought process of okay, we bring somebody in. The kid is competitive. The kid likes a little bit of a challenge, likes a little bit of a jab back at him. So maybe the competition or the presence of competition inspires him, fires him up. And you get the best out of him in that sense too. So I think there's a little bit of that in the mix here of well, maybe if we if we stoke the fire a little bit and just get him a little bit punchy, I mean, kind of in work on that hockey player instinct that he has shout out Kevin Gork, making a puck battle. Yeah, yeah, make it a little bit of a, you know, go into the corner, go into the hard areas, get greasy goals, all that kind of stuff, move the feet, all of the hockey cliches. But yeah, I think there's a little bit of if you can get him a little edgy, maybe that could be a good thing for him. I saw some news. I can't remember. I think it was fairly recent last couple of weeks that he was out in Cali working out

with John Beck, former former NFL QBs. So in that vein, do we know anything about maybe this off season program for JJ, whether it is to get him ready to start and raise that level, et cetera, that it would be different this time around combination to be in fully healthy, fresh off the season, et cetera. So that 2026 is indeed an improvement and a step forward. Well, I mean, John Beck is the guy that he worked out with before the combine as well. So there is a history relationship. Yeah, there's a history going back a couple of years, like Tom House. I mean, all these guys work with Tom House, the famous Nolan Ryan pitching coach who became like Tom Brady's throwing coach. I mean, this is a guy that has Tom House who used to pitch for the braves. I think he was the ranger's or ranger's coach, what I remember, it may be pitch for the brave way back when, but in my childhood, I remember him as big Nolan Ryan's guy in Texas and then sort of working with quarterbacks, very possible. He pitched for the braves. And I'm just not thinking far enough back, but that was his first team, in fact, OK, 71 to 75. There you go. So he was pitching and then he ended up being a coach and you kind of go from there.

So we've gone further back into the Tom House anthology that I realized we were going to go. So you learn something new every day. And Beck's a limb on the house tree. Correct. OK. Yes. Back, obviously, it was the BYU quarterback has worked pretty closely with JJ McCarthy over the last couple of years. So there is a relationship there. And the fact that it's in warm weather, I don't think is a, I don't think that was a downside to being out there for some of the offseason to get in the sunshine and have a little bit of a chance to work out outside, rather than the Minnesota weather or Illinois weather that you probably have otherwise. So there is a relationship. Does that mean the program is just paying by numbers the same? No, I don't think it means that. I think he understands there's a number of things that he has to work on mechanics-wise. You know, playing with anticipation, we saw, I think, examples of that happening this year. And there were also times where kind of working through things, you could see where he needs to play a little bit faster. So I think there are a lot of things on the menu and those postseason meetings that they

have with players, a lot of it, here's what want you to work on. And I think he has that list and then you go through the offseason and try to finish or improve as many of those things on that list as you can. Did you, did you go searching for Kyle and Marie steam and Indianapolis because, like, I had a, yeah, and I shared this earlier. I had a side conversation with somebody for three and a half minutes who used to be tied to the NFC West and I asked him a specific question about Kyler and they didn't answer that question. Instead, I was told he'd really love to play for the Minnesota Vikings. Have you heard that? Yeah. I like to somebody share that he's letting his representation is letting people know that if he's not here, he wants to be there. Yeah, I think there's been some chatter along those lines and I think that is not uncommon at this point. And then you heard JJ say that after the draft that all these quarterbacks wanted to be here. Obviously our riders wanted to be here. There's a lot that the Vikings have going for them that makes them attractive.

You are playing for a head coach who's record with quarterbacks is generally pretty good. You know, JJ McCarthy, perhaps notwithstanding last year, but as he pointed out when they've had consistent quarterback and they've won a lot of games in the San Darnal, obviously, I think Kevin O'Connell gets a fair amount of credit for the rebound for San Darnal. You have a lot of quarterbacks who look at the facility, I'm sure, and say this is a great place to be every day. I have every resource I could possibly want to stay healthy to get training. There's a deep room of offensive coaches with a lot of experience, Josh McCown, Jordan Trailer, West Phillips, you go down that line and I'm bearing the lead, but you get to throw the ball to Justin Jefferson. So that's the other thing that people see as really attractive about playing here and it's a place where you can put up a lot of numbers. What wouldn't the a topic with Kyler put the money to the side, be he's played like 10 games the last four years. Yeah. So I mean, you know, we're we're up here sweating McCarthy in about and that's very true.

But I mean, like Kyler made that famous while JJ was at Michigan. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's I think the durability stuff. How would he play in this offense is a question I have because he was in something that was more like the Vikings offense when Drew Petsing was calling plays than he had been early in his career. So they're playing for Cliff Kingsbury. But how would he function in an offense that I mean, you hear Kevin O'Connor talk about all the time rhythm and timing is the foundation of this offense. How would he do there? He's a guy that has immense talent immense athletic ability. You can play off schedule and do a lot of things with him that most people can't. So you can work with that. But I also think they want the foundation of their offense to be a quarterback who throws the ball on time gets the ball to his playmakers on time. So concepts develop and you can get you can pure progress to talk about last year. You can go through concepts and then things open up and uncover when they're supposed

to you get the ball out and you move down the field that way. So how does he do in that type of an offense? And we hear all the time how complicated this off I mean Ryan Kelly said that in the middle last season Ryan Kelly, a guy who's played with veteran quarterbacks throughout his career has played a long time in the league said this offense is complicated. So when when a guy of that stature in the middle of the season still saying, yeah, this is a lot. You know, you take note of that and there's been a lot of discussion about Kyler Murray study habits and we heard it in the talk back early. I think the word out of Arizona is those things have gotten better over the year. Yeah, it is. It's become a running meme in the NFL. But yeah, the I think the word out of Arizona last year was those things have improved. And as he has said, like, look, I was an elite baseball player and a leaf football player at the same time. Wow. It takes a fair amount of cognitive ability to be able to do both of those things at once. Yep. So give him credit for that. But I do think about that the complexity of this offense, the level of detail in this

offense has he been stretched to play that style before and how would that go in Minnesota. That's a big question I'd have. I, I don't know, dude, like I don't, I just have not seen this happening. Yeah. I just I've never arrived and wrapped my mind around it. I'm like, I don't think it fits. I think I think he would drive the coach crazy. I'm not sure he can make all the dances, but then he got McCarthy behind him. But like like with Kyler, I do remember. And I can't remember the year one of the last two years when they were here, and Drew Petsing, former, former coach with the Vikings. Right. Now the offensive coordinator for the Lions, he was the coordinator and the Vikings beat him. Yep. And I think it was pretty close. 23, 22 or something crazy. Yeah. But I remember talking to Drew after the game, just, you know, without watching it back, just going quick, twitch on it. What I said to Drew was that that's the most in control, in charge, Kyler Murray.

I can never remember seeing where he just didn't run willy-nilly and throw up upon picked off by the other team and he lost the game or go moonwalking into the end zone and a playoff game against Kevin O'Connell. And as you're following backwards, throw it right to a linebacker for a pick six that loses the game. Yeah. So he's not the first quarterback ever to do things like that. But I was impressed whenever the game was with how in control and like professional and efficient that Kyler was that game. Yeah. I think that was in 24 if I remember incorrectly. It was. Yeah. I think, you know, I've laid out all the questions I have about it. But if they were to do it, I think it would happen along these lines. They would look at the athletic ability, the arm talent. We've seen both of those things against the Vikings on display before and they would say we can be the team that adds some structure, add some stability to this and can turn

him into a quarterback that probably I'm sure some of the pitch to him would be too. This is an easier way to play perhaps in the second half of your career than when you're 25 and running around and taking hits in the process of that. So I could see them saying, okay, this is a guy with a lot of talent that we can work with. And maybe we put in some things that work for him. I know when they talked about Anthony Richardson a few years back, you know, I only bring that up to say this is a type of quarterback that is very different than what they've had. And there was an understanding that if they brought him in, you're going to play a lot of the ways that he wants to play. We're going to accentuate the things that he does really well. Well, Richardson's branded as a runner and he can run, he can throw the ball, Stan is still 70 yards. Correct. Now, now it's inaccurate. I mean, they can work with that, but you know, and I remember looking into this or talking to some people about it into that 2023 2023, correct me if I'm wrong here, but you broke

a story or you had a quarterback related story that indicated the right people are interested in this guy. That's a mock draft. I had them trading up to take him way up. Yeah. It was up to four. Yeah. It was wow. I think I was like seven or eight, but yeah, they, but yes, moving up big for sure. So, but, but now just to transition from Kyler to to Anthony Richardson because that kind of popped up at the end of the line with some of the bigger names, but not the, not the scribes or the chef, these are, or names like that indicating, hey, this could happen. But do you think there are, there are any legs with this? I don't think that can be the only option. I think there is intrigue. I think a lot of the questions they had about him at the time were, okay, how is he going to be as the leader of that locker room? I know that was something they were like, well, we need to learn a little more about this as they were going through it. So would all of those things be fixed? Would all of those things be better? And do you want to count on a guy like that that has not shown he can do it at the NFL

level? Anthony Richardson. Anthony Richardson and JJ McCarthy, like that being the competition. I don't see that. I think they need something more stable. Now, if he was, hey, he's a third guy that you bring in and we can develop them and it's a little bit of a flyer. Yeah. Maybe, you know, they've shown they have no qualms about packing as many first round pick talent type quarterbacks into a room as they can get. But then you're keeping three on the roster, wouldn't you? Probably. But in a former top five pick on the practice squad at this stage, probably. But I, you know, I think they'd figure that out as they go, you know, we saw it a little bit with Daniel Jones coming in and he was on the on the practice squad at the time. But, you know, you kind of do what you have to do and figure it out from there. But yeah, I don't see that as like the exclusive option with JJ McCarthy. It's more of a, okay, this could be a flyer. I just bring him up to say that, yeah, there have been discussions in the past of, okay, this is not somebody that necessarily is cut from the Kevin O'Connell mold, so to speak.

But there's enough talent here that how would we work with this? How would we tailor our offense around it that, you know, I think there'd be some room for creative thinking there if they did bring even a guy like that. So if it were to be a guy like Kyler Murray, I think they'd look at it and say, okay, here's the talent. How could we pair this with what we do? How can we mold the offense around him and try to make it work from there? But with Kyler, the, the, the natural comparison, at least I think, is Sam Darnold, okay? No, no, no, Darnold, third overall, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, came here, look at this, then he went and did this. And Kyler is more accomplished, well, he was a rookie of the year. Yeah. I think he won a rookie of the year's version. Yeah. So, so therefore, statistically, he, to a certain extent, has been more accomplished than Sam Darnold. Yeah. For my taste. In terms of when they, when they would get to Minnesota. For, for, for my taste. I, I think Darnold's a better quarterback. Yeah. I just, I think if you're going to look at situation for situation, what you saw, they squeezed out of this and in fairness to say, they'll squeeze the most out of this because

it's how they operate. I just think in the context of the way things are done here. Yeah. Honestly, I don't think Kyler's in Sam Darnold's class when it comes to this here. Yeah. Yeah, because it's all of the stuff that they, I mean, the things that Darnold did well, they want to come back to this offense. Like you, you know, you hear about the dagger cuts on the back side of a play. I mean, they want that stuff back. They lived on that in 24 and they wanted the offense now. So, you know, the things that they see as staples of this offense, you have to show you can execute. Right. That's, that would be the thing with Kyler is, how does he do in those settings? You know, can he make all of those throws on time? Can he, you know, put the ball over a linebacker? You know, the layered type throws that they've wanted to see JJ McCarthy make. I think all of that stuff playing with a structure that is not built on him extending things with his feet. I mean, you know, you want to use that if you can, but I don't think they want to live in that world. So, a lot of it would have to be him showing that even if I accentuate the offense with

some of the mobility that I bring to it, I'm still going to operate within this general structure, the general family of things most of the time. Another, another thing that's kind of popping in Indie post Indie, Ben is Daniel Jones. So, this is interesting to me because the franchise tag deadline, I believe is later this afternoon. Yep. And that number is $43 million. So, if I'm, if I'm the Colts, I, I mean, you can tell me if I'm wrong, I think it's insane that they would put the tag on him and 43 million with the Achilles, how that recovery is going to look, but similarly, even signing him to a long term deal feels like a tenuous act given the fact that they got 11 or 12 certainly good games out of them, but still a lot of unknowns, like where's your head at in relation to Daniel Jones and what his future holds? Yeah. It's a difficult, it's an interesting one. I mean, I think the transition tag has come up with him a little bit too, and I'm trying to remember exactly what the number is there, but they seem like they want him in the plan. The question is at what price given the Achilles?

Because that happened late enough in the year that I have to think that's going to be a factor going into 2026. I mean, you could talk about rehab, you could talk about, okay, we can get him ready, yes, but that feels like one, we've seen it with older quarterbacks, cousins and Rogers, you know, Jones is still in his late 20s, but how trustworthy is that, is that heel, how trustworthy is that base as you're trying to come back from it? I think that's always the thing that's a little bit of an unknown until you get back on the field. So I think as you're making a commitment to a guy like that, that's going to factor into it. That's why I would think the franchise tag is probably a little tough to imagine, especially when you are, I'm sure going to be thinking we have to have an alternative to him and they vet that he's not ready. So I mean, all of this is risk management. Yeah, they do, they do who what, there's a rising other name down there in Indie. Yeah. Who got a head to step in and made some better name, but man, the path forward for Daniel

Good for him. If he finds his way to 40 million bucks, holy cast. Well, down, I mean, Derek Carr legitimately is in the conversation. I heard that name more than I thought it was going to be the combine. Well, I mean, into the combine, it had been reported that, you know, he would be interested from right kind of team. I can't even remember what happened to him, why retired. Yeah. And, and, you know, it's like the first interlular injury. One of the first interviews I did at the combine on Tuesday, I'm talking about the quarterbacks and everything. It might have been Jordan Reed with the SPN. And he brings up Geno Smith. Yeah. And I'm like, okay, I saw the name like Geno Smith, okay, where'd that come from? So started looking into it a little bit, looking into the style of play, five steps, seven step drop. Didn't realize how much presence and how much leadership he naturally has in the locker room with the guys. All right. That matters. Yes, it does. And he's, he's a straight drop pocket guy who can slide decently in the pocket and can protect himself well enough at this stage of his career.

I didn't realize how good his arm was. Yeah. I didn't realize what those backdoor dagger cuts and things middle of the field attacking middle zones and getting safeties to move and stuff. All right. I don't know it was good at that either. Yeah. So that's all just really elevated for me if, if, if he becomes available. Yeah. Geno Smith. Yeah. I think a lot of what you just laid out there makes a lot of sense because he has played in offices and has tape in offices that's like, okay, this concept translates to what the Vikings want to do. And with Kyler, there's a little more of a projection there, I think. And you could say, yeah, we see enough here, kind of like we're talking about. We see enough here that we can mold into our office and build an office that works. But would you know, it's probably a little more of a, yeah, this, this stuff is very familiar to him already. And these types of throws are very familiar. The other thing with him is he's the type of player that if you felt good enough about JJ and you wanted to move on from Geno Smith, that there's not going to be this attachment

this well, you know, are we saying goodbye to five or six years more of high level play because this guy's still in his late 20s? I mean, you know, the questions you have with Arnold with Daniel Jones, I think some of those things come up a little more with a high level quarterback who's not on the back nine of his career, so to speak. So I think there'd be a little less of that question with Geno, which means it's maybe a little more of a utilitarian option for them. Turnovers with him are a question. I think that would be something they'd have to figure out. But that, that was Donald's case too. I mean, that's in. Donald led the NFL and turnovers and just won the Super Bowl. Yeah. And cousins, the year that he was with O'Connell, the turnover numbers went up. And some of it is they look at some of that as the cost of doing business. They're not going to say, oh, we need a guy to throw four picks a year or five picks a year and anything more than that is unacceptable. You don't want them. You don't want turnovers. Certainly we've heard Kevin O'Connell talk about that a lot. But if you're throwing the occasional pick in the context of trying to push the wall

down field, trying to make explosive things happen, I think they'll say we can live with it. If it's if the decision was good and it's just a matter of I tried to fit something in there and I was working off of this, I don't think anybody's going to lose their mind over that over there. So, you know, that would be the question with him, but there are a lot of things with him where it's a little more compatible, at least at this point with what I see in that offense. The scribe. Ben gasoline at Ben gasoline via X covers the Vikings for the star tribune a star tribune dot com around the corner and Eric Wilson question. And I'm also the the acting general manager for the Minnesota Vikings. In my estimation, we'll become the general manager after the draft. And I want to run some things by Ben when we return. Lately, my friends keep asking what I'm doing to my skin. Honestly, I didn't change my makeup. I changed my skincare. It's called farmhouse fresh. This award-winning fresh-grown brand is a 14-year favorite of US spas and beauty magazines and celebrities agree.

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So if he's got confidence in them, I've got confidence in him. Sweetie, welcome back, Sweetie. I like the talk back when it comes to the like taking O'Connell's future with this new extension and let's just say to whom much is given, much certainly is expected, tying it together to the quarterback. And if it doesn't work, the veteran that they purportedly will bring in, that it could jeopardize his job status, I say no. That it wouldn't? Nope. Well, yeah, I mean, very confident in him. I think the question is, yeah, I mean, how many times can you take a swing at the quarterback thing and miss it? We've seen it happen before where people have taken multiple swings and kept their jobs for very long times. But I think he is aware that when you don't come through on this, when you were hired as kind of the quarterback guy, that, you know, there's always that possibility.

So I think to squeeze the idea that this will be tied to him, I'm sure he's aware of that. If he is putting his chips in with a guy, knowing where all of this stands, he's not on a hot seat by any means. But I, he knows if you don't get this right where this could lead, the path that could lead down. So I think, I think if he is saying, yeah, I think we can win with this guy. He's not doing it just, you know, throwing a penny into a well, so to speak. From the, from the NFL news cycle, Nordow mentioned earlier, today is the franchise track tag deadline day, a note, no franchise tag is expected for the Vikings, right? No. No. The Adam Schefter reports the jets are going to franchise tag Breeze Hall, so the running back who could have been available, supposedly not available. Atlanta Falcons get a fifth European game. They play him a grid next year.

The opponent has not been announced. And I don't think we can get that one. I think they come to Minnesota. They come here. Yeah. And whether, whether really got steam, no, come on, just that they send them internationally all the time in the Saints playing Paris, that's all. And I don't know if this was Sunday or yesterday, but sources with all the, the, the right scribes and the right medium members indicate the, the lions are going to trade David Montgomery. Yeah. The running back to Houston for a couple of picks, one of them's a fourth this year and a juice scrugs, I think is the offensive lineman's name, but I mean, I don't, a, these guys are really good when they do things like this, they're at homes in that group, yes, they, so a, there's that, they're really good when they move something and everybody's like, hey, whoa, hock and what? Yeah, hock and he's yeah, you see what I'm saying? Yes. Turned it into Laporteus. So I'm believing they absolutely have a running back they want.

They know that they're going to be able to get him where they want him. Petsing must have rolled in and been meant like, I only need that guy. Yeah. Okay. So we can draft one a week of raisin, but all we need is that guy. So if you want to trade him, we're okay with that. Yeah. But how, what, what do you think of all this? Cause Montgomery's a touchdown machine. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's Jameer Gibbs fantasy owner this year says, you know, rooffully, um, he isn't touched on machine and he's, the other thing is he's better in past protection as we saw in those games against the Vikings than Jameer Gibbs is the Vikings turned Jameer Gibbs into a liability, right? By making him stay in past protection in those games. So you have to replace those things. You have to replace the durability in the back field, uh, the ability to take on contact whether it's in short yardage situations or in past protection. But you can do that probably with somebody younger. And I don't think they'll go in with, you know, hey, it's just Jameer Gibbs all the time. I think they will add at that position and figure out where they want to go. But yeah, to your point, they've been pretty good at saying, let's move on from a guy

early rather than doing it late. Yes. And I think with a running back that's had quite a bit of workload over the course of his time in the line with Detroit and Chicago, I think that's what they're doing. And yeah, I would imagine they'll replace that role. But with somebody who's younger and cheaper. Yep. Maybe they love Craig Reynolds. I always love that one. As a backup, Ben gasoline at Ben gasoline covers the covers, the Vikings for the Star Tribune. I haven't asked you this. And I saw him as he was arriving to the combine when I was leaving a former offensive line coach, Chris Cooper. Why didn't they retain Chris Cooper here? Now the offensive line coach for the Eagles, yeah, they got hired pretty quick. He did to replace Jeff Stoutland, the legendary Eagles offensive line coach. So and he was well respected coming in here. I think it becomes one of those things where when the problem has been the same, the same position has been the problem for as long as it had, somebody was going to pay the price. And it's they've tried to replace players.

They've tried to change things out of different positions and some of the same problems keep popping up. So you say, well, okay, maybe some of this is the ways they're being coached the techniques we're using. I think that was a lot of it. And they felt good about Keith Carter. I think fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. And a guy that came in with some questions to answer about how he relate to players. I mean, that was certainly part of his story with the jets and the Titans. A lot of players said, yeah, this guy is hard to play for. But my understanding when they went through the process with him, both analyzing what he did this year and then talking to him in interviews was they felt pretty good about that. And I think Frank Smith comes in probably in a position where he's going to be pretty involved on the offensive line and some of the techniques and scheme, particularly in the run game that they use. So I think a lot of it is, you know, this is how it goes in the NFL when it's been, the past protection has been an issue for as long as it has somebody is going to say, okay, we got to try something different. And I think that was a lot of what happened here because Cooper. Well, all of the free agency stuff, it's coming at you fast, Greg.

Yeah. It's right around the corner. It is. Are you seeing me on Eric Wilson? I think, I mean, that's going to be an interesting one because will he get a big contract he's, you know, he's in his thirties. I don't know that he's a guy that is going to have a massive market. It won't take a lot. But I also think he's aware of where he fits in his defense and I think they like him a lot. I think if the number is right, they'd try to get him back here and maybe it's a two year deal with, you know, kind of a one and we'll see, you know, how you structure the money and the back end of that. But I would think, you know, Brian Flores, when he wants somebody, he lets them know and I think Brian Flores is in a position where a lot of what he wants to do on defense is probably going to happen. And, you know, he's been in that case before and I think continues to be in that place this year. Well, so Flores from what I understand is, or I knew this before, yeah, from the road chapels, yeah, with the team. But Flores and Dolman Gibson, the assistant special teams coach, what they, I mean,

Flores has a very high opinion of Dolman. And now, all of a sudden, the team announces Dolman is the backup inside linebackers coach to Saravo. Yeah. So that, that, you know, as you, as you connect the dots here to like, yeah, Matt Daniels, that's why Dolman Gibson and Brian Flores is like, no, I want to, so why Brian's back, what he got, what he needs, yeah, I mean, now, all of a sudden, Dolman's back up inside linebackers guy. Yeah. Yeah. So I think there is certainly that pattern. And if he wants Eric Wilson back and they make the money work, I think that happens. But lastly, so I just deduce for me, if they pulled well respected money, man, Matt Thomas. All right. Out of retirement. Probably for an offer he couldn't refuse to handle or be part of the cap stuff, the Brazinski roll, then Brazinski slides into the acting GM spot. This is just how it seems it's going to be into 2026. Because it's, you know, chatting with somebody right before I left the combine, it, I mean,

getting Matt Tom, the Vikings are the first team to try to get Matt Thomas out of retirement. Yeah. Let's put it that way. But he came out of retirement for this situation, which is like the Brazinski job. Right. And then Brazinski still with his hands there to get people up to speed has the other job. Yep. I just don't see it changing because if you, if you hire Ben Guessling, the personnel director for the Houston Texans to come in to be your GM, you're screwed if you make that hire. And he's batting. And he's bowley, who? Yeah. Okay. Well, then what happens Rob? Yeah. Somebody just rolled in and took his job. Right. Yeah. I mean, they go back to the cap stuff. Well, this is staying as is. They're not going to add any. Well, the, the biggest thing I heard at the combine from people inside the organization, people outside the organization is you should give Rob the job or the heat. It's one person that knows him well at works for another team called them to call that a no-brainer to hire him because of how well respected he is in different corners of the organization. The Kevin O'Connell likes him.

Was the guy in the other conference? Yes. Okay. So we may have spoken to the same guy because if you're in conference and you're like, we'll just let him do it. Yeah. Well, then that's probably not it. You may think he's terrible. Right. Right. Exactly. Yeah. It was people that have watched him work for a long time and are impressed with a lot of the way he goes about it. And you hear a lot of people. I mean, even the feeling of, well, we're pretty stable with where we are now. And Matt Thomas, I don't know if he'll do this long term. I think it was a bit of a, a short-term fits to move to Minnesota for a few months and then you go from there, but I will say even if Rob presents the job, they are big fans and Rob is a big fan of Emily Betis who works pretty closely with Rob on cap stuff. So I don't think they would feel like, oh, what are we going to do on the cap if Rob takes this other job because he certainly be still connected to it. But I think they feel like they've got some of that covered with Emily working there. I mean, he thinks very, very highly of her.

So with her and Matt Thomas there right now, I think they feel pretty good on that side of things. But overall, yeah, I think there is, you know, you'd have to figure out the person else side of things. What does the scouting side of this look like? You know, just Ryan Monons get promoted. Do you bring other people in? How do you work that if your GM is not in that role? But you know, you heard a lot of people say too that the GM does not have to be the quote unquote, super scout all the time. You can have somebody how he rose been came from a different background. You have, you know, people in different jobs are on the league that are not always from the scouting world. You'd have to get that side of it figured out and you'd have to figure out what you need to add to the scouts that they already have and how many people may leave that were tied to Quacy. But I think the overall approach of Rob leading the front office is not, it's not something I would bet against. I think there's a very good chance given the respect he has from the wills, respect from Kevin O'Connell, respect throughout the building that if he wants it, and that's

the question, does he want it? But if he does, I think there's a lot of momentum to make it happen. That was fantastic. Great, great work in Indianapolis, by the way. Thank you. Man, you just, yeah, you attained a lot while you were there. We'll just, we'll watch the proverbial chips fall. Yeah. Do what happens with the Vikings. Have a good way. You too. Thanks. Ben Gessley, star tribune, star tribune.com. News do not around the corner. Then Tony Scott from youth hockey hub shortly after 11 on the state high school hockey tournament. Lately, my friends keep asking what I'm doing to my skin. Gessley, I didn't change my makeup. I changed my skincare. It's called farmhouse fresh. This award-winning fresh-grown brand is a 14 year favorite of US spas and beauty magazines and celebrities agree. If you're over 40 and feel like nothing really makes a difference anymore, this does. My skin looks brighter, smoother, and yes, people notice. Get the farmhouse fresh skincare glow. Go to farmhousefreshskingcare.com. This is Monday, our 2026 iHard podcast awards are happening live at South by Southwest.

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You mentioned briefly during Ben Guessling's appearance before we get to the local side of things. The New York Jets do indeed intend on placing the franchise tag on Breeze Hall, so you're thinking, okay, well, got steamy here, if you don't trade Aaron Jones, it sounds like Aaron Jones will be released from the team, how are we going to fill that spot? Do we do it in the draft, or do we do it via free agency Breeze Hall? No longer an option, and I miss this. I saw that the tags, as far as today goes, and I've already lost it. Where is it? Well, George Pickens, it sounds like received a tag for about $27 million, and then Kyle Pits in Atlanta, as well, so Breeze would be, it appears, the third individual to be tagged by their team. We mentioned Daniel Jones, no news on that 43 million does sound insane to me, but what we shall see, Deadline closes around 3 p.m. this afternoon. And to the Minnesota Timberwolves, they beat the nuggets, they rose to the occasion in

the Mile High City in a Sunday, Matt and they shortly, you'll be able to podcast that conversation you had with head coach Chris Finch to open the show today, but teams won three straight, like six of their last seven. One of my favorite parts from that chat, you were in Denver, you got to see this game live, so maybe you can co-sign on this, is the head coach talking, you know, we're kind of finding our rhythm here, that we're kind of, we're, again, raising the level, it sounds like there, he's seen the wheels turning towards a team that's getting mentally focused and excited about a playoff opportunity, not too long from now. Well, he rattled off things that are coming together, or came together in the Denver game, so now the expectation tonight against Memphis, then you got Toronto here, and then moving forward that they stay the same. I involved defense, awareness with passing, crisply and quickly and efficiently if you get double teamed, he credited Anthony Edwards for being really good at that in the fourth

quarter of the nuggets game when they tried to make it sneaky, and also talked about tonight being a mindset game, Memphis is terrible, but most of Memphis's team, nobody's ever heard of. I mean, there ain't anybody at the game tonight with a game more in Taylor or Tyler Hendricks, so that Zach Edie's not playing, Jared Jackson got traded, so this absolutely should be a win tonight, and tonight is, like Charles Barkley, a couple of Fridays ago, and this third time I've shared this, he's talking with Jalen Rose on the Ernie Johnson bit, and he's like, yeah, like the walls, of course, they're gifted paraphrasing, but it's when they lead bad teams whose cars have been turned on for a month trying to drive their way to Vegas or to the airport to fly the Turks and Cacos, when you get up 10, 15 on them make it 30, and then the game will go quicker and more quickly, it'll just be over, and they mess around with teams too much, while they didn't do that Sunday against Denver,

and Denver's a quality squad missing a key player. Tonight's squad is awful, and they play Willie Nilly, run up and down the court, try to make it as many shots as they can, and so Chris called tonight a mindset game, or your mind needs to be set for this evening's game where you're going to have an opportunity to be up 15, make it 30, bury them, move on to the next one. Speaking of burying, we hope the Minnesota wild are able to bounce back after a couple losses, lasting for you news in Nordstyles, an 830 PM ish, while it's going to probably be closer to about 845, 847, as we got primetime hockey in the mix, which puts an 830 ish start time for the wild and Tampa at St. Paul. Excited to hear from the head coach tomorrow, hopefully off of a victory, but this team, whether it's a little sleepy game on Sunday, not being able to figure out and solve these Utah mammoth. I don't think they've won a game in regulation in six against the mammoths since they moved to Utah. So, opportunity for a bounce back after a tough one at Grand Casino Arena on Sunday.

They get this one at home tonight, hopefully two points for the good guys. The lightning, I believe, have lost two in a row. They have, yes. From what I understand, it is a cranky lightning bunch that flew from Florida to Minnesota yesterday. Yeah, they got throttled by Buffalo the other day. Buffalo, you're talking with Gorgi about a super cool story, how they are very, very much game for the post season. Yep. And Tampa Bay is like second favorite to win the Stanley Cup on a two game jack. Tonight's going to be good, because as I said with us in your spot, he kept Gorg hour and change ago, you come off the Olympic break, got that emotional one at Denver, you crush the apps. All right. So then you come home and you're playing a middling St. Louis team, middling at best, a lot of hoop law and pomp and circumstance with the game day understandable. And you lose to St. Louis. And so now that that you got yourselves up for the apps game, came back to the pack

for the blues game, now you settle in to kind of who you are, no matter the injuries, no matter fabric being here, the potential of a truck check trade by Friday, no matter what's happening, the guys on the other side are desperate for a victory and they're very, very good. And Gucheroff's one of the best in show, but so is Capri Sopp, and so is Baldy, and so is Quinn Hughes. Tonight's going to be fantastic, very much looking forward to it. That's news to Nord presented by V Casino at Canterbury Park, Canterburypark.com. It is now post time for the annual Minnesota State High School hockey tournament joining us yearly, Tony Scott with Youth Hockey Hub. And he'll join us around the corner to, uh, Capri, who will wear, when and what, with the boys in the state high school hockey tournament right here on KFA N. Next Monday, our 2026 iHard podcast awards are happening live in South by Southwest. This is the biggest night in podcasting. We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative

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