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What's up punters? The dribbler is welcome back to the Hellsport podcast.

I'm Vaughn Qualfar, opinion on wavering bias. And welcome back to Rugby League. It is back.

Vegas done and dusted. Holy shit. It was good to have it back on the screens.

Great games. Well, one great game. So interesting results, I think. Vegas does it again.

I think what, you know, it started off pregame. Everyone talking about PVL's hair. I don't know if

it was just, it wasn't certainly wasn't just us, but PVL's hair was getting a lot of attention

online, a lot of DMs online. I can tell you from seeing it up close and personal,

that that's 100% his natural color. And I don't want to hear another word about it for starters.

I know people think that we're the mouthpiece of fucking landies now. And that, you know,

perhaps some people accusing us of getting paid even Edward to spruke his pedal his wares.

If you thought that was true, shame on you, but know this. And this is not paid for by the emperor

of rugby league, some pit of landies. That hair color is 100% natural. And in terms of the hair

itself, I also am of the belief that it is real. And I loved the haircut. Just start there.

Start there. Sure. I think it's a beautiful place to start. Tom, I'll, I'll double down and

read her out your earlier comment. We're not on the, we're not on the take for big rugby league.

We're not on the take for the emperor nor will we on the take for the grandson of God. I just

want to start with that. No, not on the take. Now, having, having, having, to being on the take for,

well, listen, I mean, I'm open to be corrupted, you know. So we may as well just put that out there

now. We're corruptible. We're very corruptible for the right price. And I think we all are deep down.

Having dyed my hair on several occasions in the name of content, I'm having,

having run the boot polish through it. Yeah. I think I'm in probably a better position than most

to cast judgment over some Peter's hair. That's real. That's real. It's always been that color.

He might be running a new moose or a new or a new or a new bril. Yep. Right. That's going to

bring out the natural colors that already exist in their hair. Just pump them up a bit. Just pump

them up a bit. I mean, he's always had jet black boot polish hair always. And obviously he's gone

for a bit of the high and tight fate on the sides. There's no hint of grays there. Obviously,

it's just skin that we can see. I like when the boss goes high and tight and then party on top.

It's vagus. Yeah. So just clear that up straight away. Hair 100% natural color and 100% real.

And 100% real and the hair cut itself looks terrific. He's growing it out on top. This is a new

pvl. This is a I've lost heaps of weight pvl as well. You look good. You feel good, right?

He's lost staggering amounts of weight. Shout out to him. He's by all reports mastering

the calorie deficit approach. Try and test it. Try and test it. Oh, but I'm just big bones. No,

you haven't any calories. Right. You are as big as a horse. But pvl has he understands through

his own resource, Tom and R&D that calorie deficits the way to go. He's lost staggering weight.

And I think if you look in the mirror and you start to like what you see,

then you can start to imagine a world where you go high and tight. Yeah, that's right. You

don't just go high and tight. Things are going to be going your way. You never see depressed

slabs go high and tight. No, that's why queer off the straight guy was a show. It was like,

this guy's a depressed slob. Yes. And now we are going to go and take him out. Get him out of his

invite natural habitat. We're going to start trying to pamper this guy. That's right. Like

and crazy stupid love when Ryan Gosling, the best of man's ever looked takes that Steve Carell.

Can't remember the name of the of the of the person he's playing. But he he cow cow. Thank you.

Well done. But he runs a broom over him. Okay. Yep. And takes that man high and tight. Yeah, he does.

So anyway, that's just to start not on the take yet. But some good games are fully

as certainly from the position Edward of learnings. I've taken some learnings out of round one

or round zero. Would you like to share them? I will. Let's start with game one new Castle Knights

V, the North Queensland Cowboys. And I want to start here. And it is more of a reflective note

than something I'm speaking of as my new absolute truth. But one that I think you and I potentially

can reflect on together. Well, do we really do we like the Knights again? Well, it's I don't

even think that I because I'm feeling it's it's reflective. It's it's it's not it's not reactionary

to the result. It's it's a it's a it's a culmination of several things, punters and dribbles.

And I think that it's important for me to itemize those so that you get a real sense of where

Tom and I are coming from. First and foremost, the Knights in the offseason, I don't know how many

people know this, but they've blown up their social media. Yes, by a way of Jacko,

the friend of the show. Jackson Thomas. He's Jackson. He might be the biggest signing

that the Knights have made in the offseason. Who is the biggest signing the Knights have made

in the offseason? And that's with all all respect to Dylan Brown. Who will get to who had a

plumbless to his fate face that I quite liked. But if it is Jackson's the greatest offseason

signing for the Knights in some time, in some time, like the Calabias today as well, but that was nice.

It was just a nice touch. It was just a nice it was just out of the you know, it wasn't planned.

Yeah, it was nice. Yeah, I'll do that. But the Knights, the way that that game went and and really

for the first however long it was until Fletcher shot went off injured, we were like, oh, this is fun.

This is a fun rugby league side playing with some heat. Like obviously we went in with some

preconceptions based on last year. Knights being wooden spurners and that. Well, they they hadn't

won a game since June 21st, which is insane. I couldn't believe it. Two hundred and something

it does. But you what you saw was, oh, if they can keep everyone on the park here,

this is a pretty hot rugby league side. Sure, their depth isn't that good. And yeah,

it's only one game against the Cowboys side who will get to. But Fletcher sharp seems like maybe

this is like a he's the truth. He's one of my favorite players. He's comfortably one of my

favorite players. He he looks new Castle through and through. It's like, you know, coastal small

town big city, but not like he looks like he can cast a line. He looks like he looks like he

like a fish truck. Yeah. Yeah. No, he could fix a truck, change tires, oils at out. Yeah.

But he also like he'd like to go fishing. He's probably got his own boat, high powered,

and he goes fishing. That's right. And probably and he's learned from his old man.

We probably love to fish. And he's caught a shark or two before. You know, he's also like,

he's gotten bigger when Fletcher sharp came out of the scene. He's played wing. He's played

fullback. I think he's played centers. Well, he was in a bones time. He's he's he was rids and

dick. He's he was all ribs and dick. He's rids and dick. Fletcher sharp was ribs and dick. And

now he is a veiny triumphant motherfucker. Yeah. He looks who was imposing his will on the game.

But he I'd love to know how many kegs he's put on over the season. I haven't truly reflected on

how ribs and dick he was. He was ribs and dick. When he burst on the scene is ribs. Yeah,

but even last year, I feel like he was R&D. I don't know. Now he's not. Thank God it's not NACL.

They're 100% and so there's there's Fletcher sharp, which is terrific. But he's like the next big

thing I feel and that's that could be too early. He's unbelievable. Kyle and Ponga looks incredible.

Kyle was great. Don't gag eye. The man that won't age. He's been pumping those.

Whatever whatever scientific breakthrough we've made, the Yamagacci proteins or something.

They want a noble prize for that. That's what that's literally what it is. It's anti-aging

technology runs. It's different than blue zones. They found that or is this anti-aging tech.

No, it's anti-aging tech. And I wouldn't be surprised if he's pumping that stuff into himself.

Because he looks he's he's agent like a fine wine baby. He's 34. Yeah, he did not look 35. He's just

he's been like potential. He's been one of the most consistent center of the last

however many years. Well, he's mystic and he's mystic and he's mystic and he's the difference

between his best and his worst. Well, well, well, well, you know, I'm always just so

something but you can back hands with me. You know, you know, he's just going with his

teeth. He's just going with his body. He's exactly right. And that was a try that I think he was

robbed of the other of the opening. Try the magic. It was bullshit. But Fletcher Sharp got it.

And Fletcher Sharp was in everything until he went off. He was in absolutely everything.

He seemed like the main man almost like Ponger obviously once that once he Fletcher went off

took the game by the scruff of. But it but it seemed like Fletcher the start of the second half.

Yeah, but Fletcher just felt like he was doing it. Dylan Brown was there, you know, and I'm like

whatever that was. He's as you process. He's some of you process new club whatever. Obviously,

there's big price tag on him. 50k game. More than 50k game. I was saying in the I think it was

men's woman's. No, it was in the the Sydney Morning Herald. And I can't remember his name,

but I know him. Neil brain. She had that to your brain. I think Neil brain was talking about it.

That it's over 50k game. If you break that down, I'm sure I probably use.

So there's that. There's that. But he was all right. Like as any man,

he was good. Tramoonie was good.

Mooney was very good school. Tramoonies. Tramoonies look great. Tramoonies looked humongous as well.

Tramie and he looked like the truth. What I also liked about it. He was you couldn't tell who

he was in camera. You need to get a better razzle dazzle. Better razzle dazzle never hurt nobody.

You talk about the night's more broadly here. You're right. A little razzle dazzle never hurt nobody.

It was a bit of Vegas glitter. It was glitter. They came out with glitter guns. It was everywhere.

And it wowed me. Braden and Bess out there doing the damn thing.

Scorched off from me. Big and strong and for the and for the time. Big and strong and big. Right?

There was just there was and then and then you know what when Fletcher shot went off Eddie.

Yes. Friend of the show. Sandin Smith comes on and he looked good. He didn't look Fletcher but he

did enough. Like you needed him. He looked like Sandin. He looked like Sandin. He didn't look like

Fletcher. No, he didn't. He looked like Sandin. You're asking too much. If you want to look like

Fletcher. But I've been impressed by Sandin's work over the last couple of years. He gave that

inside ball to Ponga that set up the Braden best try. He kicked well. Like he came on and did

it and did the job. And when you think about like most teams if you lose like a star half you like

fuck that's not great. You've got Sandin coming in doing a doing a job. But I've realized in the

fullness of yesterday afternoon with all the things combined with the razzle dazzle with the

players with the Fletcher sharps with the new social media with the new coach. New coach. You

know I mean changes as good as a holiday right and unfortunate for Adam O'Brien it was time to go.

Yeah, I was. So I don't even know who's coach in there now. Who's the new coach.

Justin Holbrook. Justin Holbrook. But there is something good there that doesn't like it now.

But I'm liking it right. Works for the show. But it's not the Justin Holbrook show either.

You know, which I also like. Yeah, he's not he's not front and center. They're going to

all about him, which I'm liking. No, you know, you're exactly right. But what I've realized Tom in

all those things combined is that I have and have always had quite possibly a soft spot for the

nights. I think we always have. But sometimes you are you are the harshest to the people that you

like the most or you can be you can be. But you and I won't lie, right? We won't lie and the

nights have been pathetic. And so that's why that's why that's why you got it with both barrels last

year. I also picked you for the spoon which got up. So I was riding that. The cowboys on the other

hand have had a pretty a pretty lean trot. Listen, you don't talk. You don't talk about a team that

came this with no Las Vegas glitter and no shape. No, well, shapeless. Let's play. Let's play

edge-to-edge flat rugby league that's going to inspire and entertain nobody. Like the Highland

Mookie try was running at Fletcher Sharp when the night's trainer inexplicably was like, yeah,

Fletcher's good to go. Even though the poor boy looked like a greyhound with one dodgy leg.

You know, you know, you see a dog limping around with one leg. You're like, fuck dude. Well,

Braith was fired up. Braith was fired up. And while he said get him off the bloody field.

Get him off the bloody field. How was your bloody clue? And Braith called that. He's like,

I can't believe he's still out there. They got to go at him. They go at him. Tommy did install. And

thanks for coming. Well, it was it was easy. It was easy. Peezie Lambert squeeze it. It was. But so

that's a lowkey big strong powerful and thick running a bike with one leg. With one leg. It's

not fair. It's not fair. So that that's right. The other two, I'm not knocking them. Murray Tau

Lange goes over for two. Dom Young, not a great defender. Not a great defender. Well, he likes to.

He loves to jam in with the best of him. And I think that that is almost how both tries happened.

He got that flip pass away. That was nice. The one that I remember is Jake Clifford's grubber

through and then Tau Lange jumped for it. I can't even remember the other one. The critter one?

Critter got a flip pass away. That was a different game, though, obviously. Either way,

the Cowboys looked like shit predominantly. And if I was a Cowboys fan, which I can

confirm that I'm not, when you go through their side, what I'm trying to work out is

if you go through their side, they look like they've got a pretty stacked team.

They've got a great team. They've got a great team. So like, why is it that they aren't good?

Is the other players not as good as we think that they are? Or is this just a real

origin? They've got many. I know. Quite a few orange players. It feels like a

wallet. It's a very good player. Tom Dinn is a very good player.

Can you get their team? I've got it. It's a very good player. Let's go to the team.

I'm Lukey. Look good yesterday. Where's the night? We see playing yesterday?

Good for name. I like the cut of his jib. Listen, drink, drinky,

Braden Burns, Jackson Perdue is obviously he's on the come up. Tom Chester, you could argue

is maybe like a, you know, he's not the brightest sent you've ever seen. And I don't mean

intelligence-wise, I mean like he's not a big dog. Tell Lungy, Jake Clifford is a whatever.

Tom Dinn, Cohen Hess has played Origin Reed Marnie, has been close to Origin before.

Tom Lolo, Lukey, McIntyre, Coda, Sonny Luke, Thomas McKaylay,

Coyote Donald, Griffin name, Matthew Lodge, look, there's enough good players there

that they should be better. There's enough. There's enough. No one

thinks he can. But are they flashy? Scotty drinks probably their most flashy player.

Tom didn't. They used to play flashy a regular two seasons. Yeah, they were way flashy.

Yeah. But that was just a, that was it. That was a weak performance. No, no. What's

shoulder injury at the end of last year? Thank you. Thank you, mate. Thanks for clearing that up.

Thank you very much. Scroll down. Is there any more there?

They got a six-man bench or was that where Lodge was?

Have they, have they, have they lost their way, Tom? Well, I don't know. They just,

directionless. They looked directionless. And it was like the Knights were just sort of like

letting them back in as opposed to the Cowboys doing anything particularly fantastic.

Nice lessons yesterday. It's nice to get back into it because you start to see the world as it is,

not as you would like it or expect it to be. For example, if you sit down and have a rugby

look at it, the Knights team's not that bad. No, if you sit down and have a rugby league look at it.

Exactly right. You go, it's not that bad. No. And yet, they're prevailing sentiment from

even you and I was that the Cowboys are going to hump them. And then you started thinking,

well, why? Why? Well, is that the case? Because the Cowboys aren't particularly scratch?

No, but then listen, and yes, when you sit down and have a rugby league look at the side,

which is what we're doing and what we've done. Then yes, you can start to unearth some

truths and maybe some potential biases in your own observations. But I will say this,

I needed to see Tramuni to appreciate Tramuni. Do you know what I mean? I needed to see Fletcher

Sharp, who we knew was good. No, but Fletcher had been hyped. He's been hyped. We knew he'd

been hyped, but what we had seen was in the trials, it was Sandin Smith and it was Dylan Brown

in the halves. Fletcher Sharp has almost, I feel like when Fletcher Sharp's put in the halves,

it's almost like, oh, what are we doing, put in Fletcher Sharp? He's not, and this could be

incorrect, but historically it's like, he's actually a better fallback probably than he is in the halves.

And it's like, I've seen enough. I've seen enough Fletcher Sharp now, not only in the halves,

but no longer ribs and dick. He's now, oh, I'm seeing Fletcher Sharp is put on maybe 10,

10 up top. He's sticking out. You know what I mean? His thighs are big. He's carbs. I'll leave six.

There's a breadth. There's a muscularity. There is a rugby league maturity to the physique.

Yes. It looks like a man who's prepared to start digging into the lawn.

Take it on the lawn. Well, he wants to dig in the lawn. He wants to dig in and take it on.

We can take it on sometimes by digging into it. Phoenix Crossland look good. 40, 20 kick.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Another year in dummy half, the terminate noodle hair. Greg Marjou,

sometimes I'm like, I could probably, I could probably gloss over Greg Marjou, but he looked great

yesterday, cornerized and all. He looked good. He looked good. Dom Young look good. Dom Young

look good. Defensively sure. But like, that's just Dom Young. You're going to get that. But you

see a Tramuni or a Tramuni as they're calling him now. Three moons. Moon dog. Full moon.

Full moon. Blue moon. Once in a. Yeah. Once in a was good yesterday.

Once in a was great. And then like, you know, once you, you have to see those things

to truly appreciate it. And now I think that we've had that opportunity. I'm prepared to acknowledge

that I liked their nights. I want all the best for the nights issue. Yeah. I want nothing but the

best. Yeah. Adele said that too. Did she? Yeah. I want nothing but the best. For the nights. For the

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I think I also heard Matthew John's heard of him say this on Com's yesterday,

who by the way, I was excited, which is nice. I saw a photo where they get like all the fox league

crew together. And you know, they're all sort of like, it's like a point. Yeah. What would you say?

A V sort of Maddie John's at the front. Well, he's the he's the haunt, right? Yeah.

The main man. But in a beautiful suit, he just, you know, he just looked

everyone else seemed to be in black suit. Who's behind him? Everyone.

So it was let's get it up. Yeah, I'm trying to find it now. It might be on like a fox

against you. I might have seen it in Gennane. Friend of the shows.

Gabriel managed shout out and said that Billy text him about the the Richie Benno suit.

Oh, did he? On the on the call. Yeah.

That's what they were saying. They were like, oh, bloody.

Yeah. Like the dribbles are saying, oh, the bill got to mention.

It's a good suit. I'm glad me and my old man are on the same page here. I didn't know that.

It's a fucking good looking suit. Look at that. Gennane right next to him up the front.

Well, that's what I'm saying. Is that that that's surely they're saying something wrong?

Well, I don't know. Warren Smith, not there. Vossy at the back. Are they saying Gennane's

the number one call? He got the first game. Warren Smith. He got the first game.

Yeah, he did get the first game. I was I observed these things. No, of course we do.

Where is he there? Gennane. Is that Braith next to?

Braith. Vossy's in the middle with the ball there. Vossy's in the middle with the ball there.

Well, where's Maddie? Maddie's not in that pic. Maddie's not in that photo. Right,

because it's that it's everyone else. Listen, whoever. He's, he's our number one call.

That's a damn sure. But Maddie looks glorious there. He looks absolutely fantastic.

And that was all. But Bill got a shout out. Good on you, Bill. I'm going to have to send it to him.

What did they say about Bill? Oh, they, Maddie was just talking about his suit and said that Billy

Burm sent him a text referencing the Richie Beno style suit that Maddie was wearing.

Great. Love it. It's something that he loved it. Love it.

Great. Great. Love it.

Should we move on to the next game? Is there anything else out of that game that we're

forgetting your Braden Burns sent off for the hit on Polar to have sent for 10?

No, he seemed to be mad. Yeah. Seems reasonable. Yeah.

Mate, no issues with it. Didn't bother me. What? One I order? No.

Mate, no, I don't think so. I don't think so. Nice way to start.

Polar look good. Polar look good. And that's what I was going to say.

Maddie, John's on comms was like, it's hard to see a team with Kalim Polar and Dylan Brown.

Obviously, Fletcher shot, but like Kalim Polar and I were not like being worse than last year.

You know what I mean? Being bottom of the of the of the barrel being lost.

Like it just doesn't seem like it's possible. And Kalim was injured last year as well.

Especially especially with fully in there as well. Well, now that you've got fully one sinner,

you know, three moons. Dark side of a dark side of a dark side of a

well. Yeah, landing. Yeah. That's right. That's right. Once you once you add him into the park. Yeah.

Well, you know, you might have been talking about possibly they might slip around Fletcher shot.

Listen, again, it was against Cowboys who suck. It seems if we're just going off round one

takeaways, Cowboys are shit. Now the next one and this is this is where

I feel like I need someone to just stop me and just and get me to re-explain things

and to show my working because time and time and time and time and time and time again we don't.

I'll give you a perfect example. Give it to me.

I'm not going to I'm not going to pick the dragons for the spoon because they're always

plucky at the start of the season. They fucking hang around and they're an annoying team.

But they ended up running out of the pup light in the season at the start of the season. I give

table terms great for they fairly win a few games. What are we going to do in this going

minute or dogs third in plus? It's like no, like what do you why? You've already said what you've

said. You've already showed your belief in the dragons at the start of the season. They're plucky

as fuck. They get they don't they don't get their backs blown out that often. No and they bring

you down to their level. They're the number one team to bring at doing that at the art of bringing

someone down into the mark. But I will say I want to say this off the rip and I want to show some

grace and some humility and some sincerity around the St. George Elora dragons. I'd be I would be

I'd be frustrated because there was some bullshit calls there that went your way that didn't

go your way. I'd be pissed off. I would take some positivity out of the fact that you only lost

by a field goal and golden point extra time against the bulldogs who were at top four side last year.

I would say that's a that's a that's a pretty positive start to the year. Obviously loses mentality

to be happy with a loss. But given the context of everything, I think it's a silver linings playbook.

I'm not happy, but I'm like, listen, that we got done for a strip on Bronson Chery at the end

of the game, which was absolute horse shit. No matter which way you slice it or dice it, absolute

bullshit, not a strip any day of the week. If you got it, you get that up. Yeah.

Stephen Coyton has a famous field goal of the world. This is not a strip.

Where's his hand? That's we got quickly that happens. He's not even playing at the ball.

So how's it a strip? Look at how that can you review that?

Get a penalty just inside their own half.

Johnson came out and said that he would have reviewed it because he was so like if they're called

went against them because he was so sure that it was stripped. Say that again.

So Bronson Chery came out and said afterwards he was so confident and he was stripped.

If the ref was going to call the other way, he was going to tell credit to challenges.

Yeah, right. But which means like, but it's like that's a loose carry. That's a loose carry.

So you can challenge it. But I'm like, that was that was not a strip.

And look, if you put it in slow motion, maybe you can make an argument, but realistically,

the argument is still wrong. It's a loose carry. It happens quickly. It's a loose carry.

It's a loose carry. So yeah, it says someone says it.

Loose carry all day. Completely agree. Yeah. And then and this is 50 seconds to go in regular time,

is it? No, that was the second golden point. Sorry, that was second golden point. What

and they might at the very end, which led to the the fuel goal to win it. Yeah, right.

So that's that's some bulge. Probably should have been a draw or actually not would have been a

loose carry. And then but it would have the dragon's would have been on the attack.

But it was right at the end of the game. Yeah, but they dropped the ball down in there.

They're coming out of their own end there, right? Yeah, true. They dropped the ball with a minute

to go. Dragons get the ball and they're on the attack here. That's that's that's some bullshit.

So you can be rightfully aggrieved. I also think there's a concern Eddie in the rugby league,

more broadly, that we are potentially dealing with a protected species in Stephen

I've got a lot of respect for, but I've protected species nonetheless because there are there are there are

increasing whispers. Whispers that are growing louder are amongst the rugby league community,

populace and populace, the gen pop, right? The people. Yep. The people that support the game,

Tom, the people that buy the tickets, the people that buy the merchandise. The party cat turns

starts taking over. People that buy the, you know, volunteer, their buddy, Tom down in the

general rugby league. Those people, mate, are starting to discuss over water calls. The fact that

Stephen Crichton is consistently avoiding both the bin and charges. He's been charged on

several times, but he's always been, he's always got off. I've got to say that I thought that

it's, yes, today looked a bit like a bin to me. It certainly looked a bit. Did he, has he been

rosy bin rosy bin charged? Not, yes, not, not when I was reading this morning, but he could happen

today. And I believe I'm, I, I don't mind the protected species theory, but I'm also like with,

with that particular one against SET2-2, who's a great story, debutant in the, the rugby league

act, 27 years old. The dragon's actually have a cool thing on their Instagram about his story.

He's, he's catching the ball and he's going to ground. Stephen Crichton, in fairness to the

protected species, is pretty bloody low. Like you can't get much lower. Limbo is, it'd be proud

of it. He's down low and he's go, go, go. A SET2 comes down, like what, what is Stephen to do?

In that instance, what is he to do? With the argument being that you're going, you're going into

hot sun, bit reckless maybe. So it's like you got to go in, know it, like maybe you need to have

a bit more, what game awareness that SET2 might go down. So you're just going to come in.

Well, I think, I think we could, could you argue that you could take the steam out of it a pinch.

Don't steam in. Yes. Maybe you want to try and affect the tackle that could force turn over.

I, I understand all, if you're, if you're wanting to put pressure on the guy catching the ball,

you've got to come in fast. So he's like, oh, shit, I'm about to get ironed out by,

but as you said, in fairness to the protected species, he gets pretty bloody low. But

like, is he trying to catch the ball there? No, he's trying to hit him. Yeah. He's trying to, he's trying to hit him.

Yeah. I think that if, if people, people will see that this guy has been, he was charged,

what three or four times I see is something like that and got off all of them. It's just another,

it's just another layer on top. Look at this here. We're going to, come down.

He's low. He's definitely low. And Steven's low.

Steven's low. But I'm trying to work out where contact to the head comes in because I am also of

the of the belief Edward. And it is a belief that contact to the head should not immediately mean

that you get sent off the context with which the contact happens has to come into play. I was under

the impression that there was definitely a time where contact to the head didn't, it was,

you know, stiff shit. Yeah, stiff shit. So they've walked, they've clearly walked that back.

Well, it feels like it or it's the vagus claws where it's like, we're going to just let people

get away with a bit more here. I've got to be honest with you. I do find it somewhat confusing.

But yeah, also there's the big dog claws, like Cleary. Of course there is. But like Cleary was,

but Cleary got sent for ten in fairness. Braden Burns gets sent for ten. Of course he does.

But credit is not in Vegas. There's that there, there's always been a big dog claws. There's always

been a protected species claws. I like he's going low. He's trying to affect the tackle. I get all

that. But he's still hitting fair and square in the bloody nog. Yeah, the noggin. What's,

can we read some of those comments? What's a little taste of contact with the head and still on

cubic consistent? So that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Protected protected species protected. He is,

he's the protected species. Is it because his shoulder commentator has been quick to defend

Kraut and straightaway. If Nelson was still playing, that's eight weeks right there. That's what it

feels like. Hudson Young would be to pour it if you pull this off. I sort of get what you're saying.

Hudson Young is actually an Australian national, though. So I don't know, you can deport me.

The rule needs to change it. If you decided to duck your head, that's on you.

Well, is there any, is there any responsibility on the ball receiver, the man catching the ball?

Don't just drop the ass out of it because you've got Steven Kraut and down low and go, go,

going. What did you say, Will? Does it look like his shoulder hits the shoulder and then bounces

up or is arm like a, like maybe slide. Are we seriously trying to tell such a two-hit us just

stay upright? He's got every right to go to ground with that ball. If the guy's breathing down,

you're fucking... No, no, no, for sure. I guess what you're trying to work out then is like

context. Does it mean like... Okay, well, let me ask you this. Can, can Kraut not just flop on him

there? Look how quickly he's coming in. And maybe that's the problem that the protected species

is coming in too quick. Look, you're not going to jump for the ball. He's trying to affect, like,

he's trying to snap the ball out of his arms. That's what he's trying to do. So maybe you look

at it this way, Tom. You go, okay, Kraut, you can steam in, guns blazing. And if you get the timing

right and you hit him clean, the ball might pop out, but if you get it wrong, you're off.

Isn't that generally speaking what the rule is anyway? If you want to jam out of the line,

you better get the tackle right. Yeah, you got to get it right. He doesn't need...

Is it, is, is most of the contact maybe, and this might have been what you were saying there were

him, like his chest to the shoulder and the arm sort of swings around? Well, what hits him in

the head is the arm. You can see the arm bounces off his shoulder and up to the head, which might

be why he stayed on the field mitigating circumstances. Thank you, Irma. It's what you need several

sets of eyes for these things. Yeah. I don't, I mean, can't protect its species. I mean, can't protect

its species. And I'd like it, I'd like it known that the world we live in is that there are

protected species that are... Well, of course there are. You know? Of course, but there needs to be.

There needs to be. And that's because, and this is no disrespect, and I'm not like, there are,

there's only one Stephen Crichton in the NRL, and he needs to be protected. That's right. Whereas,

and no disrespect to you, Braden Burns, there are lots of Braden Burns. There are lots of Braden

Burns. That's right. And so we don't need to protect... Well, there's heaps to them. There's heaps.

Because he's a, he's a, he's a great first grade, but he's a very competent. Stephen Crichton,

it was Stephen Crichton, like, he's like a white rhinoceros, right? Yeah. There's like two,

two left. That's it. There's like two left in the world. They've got arm gums right there.

We've got to have them constantly surrounded, and sometimes you've got to cut off their horns,

just to make them little less possible. Braden Burns is just giving like, you know, like rabbit.

Rabbit. Impala. A caribou. Sikada. Well, no, he's not insects. Jesus Christ. Well, there's lots of them.

Yeah, but I'm talking about the savannah, you know what I'm talking about. Well, we're talking

about rhinoceros. I think if you say Sikada, like, that's maybe a little disrespectful. Well, it's

just, I don't think the Sikada's playing in RL. Well, it's just more about the fact that there's

lots of them. Yeah, I know that, but I'm saying I'd like to have Braden Burns maybe a more...

Well, antelope. That's where I'm going. An antelope. Caribou. Caribou, something that's going to

get killed by a rhino, you know, or a lion. Hyena. Yep. Yes. Yes. You know what I mean? Yeah. Happy?

Well, I think it makes more sense on the savannah. Right. So, yes. Does Stephen Krutten need to be

protected? Yes. But then I want my white rhinos protected. Do you know what I'm saying? If you're

going to protect the panoramic white rhino in Nathan Cleary, and you're going to protect the

bulldog's white rhino in Stephen Krutten, I need you to protect Cory Woodell. That's right. Paul

Braun. Yes. Paul Braun. Nathan Brown. Yeah. That's all we're saying. That's all we're saying.

If you get to protect one white rhino, you need to protect all of the white rhinos. And obviously

manly has quite a few. Well, we should quite literally have a white rhino in Tommy Turbo. He's

as white as a rhino gets. But the dogs, the dogs, the dogs, the dogs got dragged down into

into a bit of a shitter. But I'll say this wasn't the best game regular. No, it wasn't. It wasn't

the game. Jacob Preston's first try was fantastic. He just puts a step on bloody gutto. He's a beast.

Are we seeing a continuation of the bulldogs lack of points since they got rid of sexton and

they put galvan into half back and button? Like they didn't really do much. No. There wasn't much

going on in that game. There was very little shape. There was very little going on in that game.

Emre Gullis scoring the first try of the dragon season is his dragons and dragons as it gets.

The Turkish front rower. I love it. Yeah. I'm into it. I think it's

so on branded hurts. And I'm glad set her to got over in his debut game. But the dogs looked

stuffy, congested. They did. They looked, they looked a little ill. Yeah. Yeah.

They did. They look congested. They look congested. They look like a quadril. The whole game felt

congested really. It don't. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of blowing noses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was

you needed a Vicks Vapor Drop. That game. The whole game needed it. But each team and each

player. They'll need it. They'll need an element. Yeah. Chicken soup. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Under the weather. You know, you need Vicks Vapor up on the chest. The hails for the nose. Maybe

a drop for the mouth. Exciting finish. Sure. But I'd also say this. And I don't know why this isn't

the case, right? But I find it crazy in the extreme that the amount of setups for field goal

opportunities are just passing the ball a couple of meters to their left charge down. So, oh, yeah.

What do you think was going to happen? Yeah. Are they now going to be back 10 ever? And 10

meters isn't enough. Why don't you throw a big pill out the back and kick it and kick it when

you got 20, give yourself 20, 30 meters. Yeah. You can kick it. You get a big fucking drop. The

only time they did that, the first and only time they did that in the game was when Crite and

kicked his. Well, they did one for Val and he hooked it. And he hooked it. That's right. But both

both times they did it. They got a shot off. Yes. But time and time again, they just pass it left

bang. Try to charge down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't you practice this stuff? Go back a little further.

Go back just a little bit further. It seems self-evident. Coach 20 meters that way.

You get the organ of passable. Is it because it isn't because the dummy half can't pass it?

That's why I don't want to believe that. I don't I don't want to believe that. What a professional

I believe player mate. That's all your all your job is to throw throw pill. I don't

want to believe that. I won't. I refuse to. I can't believe that. You're not going to get me

believe in that. I don't think that's what it is. I think it's I don't it feels just like poor

decision making in the games online. To have feels like pressure mean pressure.

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subscriber being bang boom jump on in though two games done already I've got to finish my team.

Thanks to salgp for making me to hang over to do it on Sunday but did you run anyone?

Yeah you know I've got I've got some in there but not it's not completed anyway would you jump

on in so you wouldn't have got any points from the first couple of games no if you've got players

from those games already locked into your team you do I think you need a full team no are you sure

that's what I was told by you know I've looked at shit I think you've got to have a full team field

it I don't think you do because what about when it's like during origin you don't have enough to

fill the team you still get points for players no but you'll have you'll have you'll have

players locked into a position there were times last year when I didn't feel no people in a team

no no no because but there's players selected there's people that are actually physically in the box

they're just not taken on the field whereas I'm wondering if you have selected a team I think my

starting team was full I think it was my reserves that I didn't have like I basically put it

like for example I couldn't it wouldn't let me save my team until the whole thing was selected

and I'd selected reserves that's that didn't I was able to save my team no but like I couldn't

submit it like save changes I was able to do that I saved them see if you got any points for the

weekend that's I'm just I'm I'm made I'm I'm with you listen I may not have even had any

fucking plays I'm made I'm worried sick you know I may I don't know if I am I may not have had

nights plays as well I only didn't have a flex selected game day did I get any points

no points Deva who did I have I mean again I like I didn't know many I didn't have any

who know I've only had Phoenix cross on so like whatever okay

oh no I had set two two and I had Jackson Purdue

see the three players oh and I had Jacob Preston etch

we got to him yeah yeah Jacob Preston got nice yeah I know he did yeah why wouldn't you give me

points lad because your team wasn't fucking so yeah but for a flex as well irony they're getting

fucked on a flex only got 94 as well no for that's so funny I mean I don't know jiffy man

can I still join out about even League if I haven't yet or am I out no you can't you should be

able to you that's all right listen I'm Deva but I'm also I was like shit did I even have

training I'm like just glad I've even got him you know what I mean but that's Scott

starting off the right way though you know what I mean and I had Tom Chester but he was on the bench

that's right and he also selected no reserves that's some bullshit dude we love it we love it

we love it let's move on join join join now I mean we this was addressed last week at least on

our socials but I don't know how I'd feel if Anthony Seabold came out and goes yeah we're obviously

knocking we're probably not going to win the competition which is what flano did well I wouldn't

be surprised if that's half the reason they lost that to me is like you did that video and then

there are obviously some some porn dogs in the comments being like what you want to do lie I'm

like kind of yeah yeah or say nothing well don't tell me that you think we're not going to win it

just eat that like if my opinion is not correct why do you walk it back did he walk it back he came

out saying they could then he came out saying they could win did he yes when didn't didn't we

look we looked at that yesterday didn't we I don't know whether he said oh yeah maybe after the

game did he in the press in the presser he might have said that he thought they could or that

unless I dreamt that I'm sure we saw something like that yesterday

he was talking about them not getting the rub of the grain

trying to find like funny and walks back comments are saying I just don't think that that's what

you want to say publicly because when the whips are cracking like they were yesterday and you're

in the in you're in the fight of your life maybe somewhere a little voice starts going your coach

doesn't think you can it doesn't mean it's you must chop down mate one percentage when the

rooster's got the snake oil salesman in remember what he was saying you had to speak in

absolutes in the press yes yeah it just it felt you can't you can't it felt super unnecessary

yeah before before you've even played a game you know and flano does that a bit you know he

he shit on lock elius in the presser or he spoke very forthrightly and and genuinely like

about lock elius in the presser last year he has these moments and it's like you just don't

need to say you're not going to win the comp okay so okay if you if you want to get really really

fed income about it then and you want all the coaches to be honest do you want every single coach

bar like three or four of them to be sitting in press conferences going we can't win yeah he's

like but you know hopefully we win a few games like that's we didn't say that he said hopefully

we win a lot of game well okay whatever I do that's that certainly sounds better but it's better

than I believe we would yeah yeah no you're right and that's fair and then you listen in fairness

to Shane better give the correct fucking reflection of what he said but like is this is this the

updated comments yeah updated columns we have a good footy team he said what I said I think in

hindsight I probably shouldn't have said it see that's what I said shut up mate we're supposed to

God be honest with men gonna do this yeah shut up mate I was right you were wrong he should have

said it but flip the coin over if I say that we're going to win the comp there's going to be as much

criticism as probably more we've got a good football team well don't you don't say either that's

what I was saying don't say either don't say anything we've got a good football team our clubs on

the way out we're ready to go out we're going to compete this year we're going to be a better

we're going to be better next year and better the year after we're a big club and we're on the

improve so look at jump on board or get off right you could he's literally been like oh either

had to say we're going to win the comp or we wouldn't I'm like no you could you could well you

know what the third option is cut out the strike the whole first sentence and go we've got a good

football team at clubs on the way out we're ready to go and we're getting ready to compete this year

we're going to be better next year and better the year after that's what we need to say yeah

there you go beautiful line that's a that's a that's a ripoff yeah I particularly like the bit

where you said we're going to compete this year that's nice that's good you don't open with

we can't win the comp that's the most defeated shit I've ever heard what are we what are we fair

income yeah before that though he'd even doubled down on them again wait he doubled down on

that we can't win the comp yeah fuck okay and then he's had to walk it all the way now he's

walked it back so this is in between we haven't said we've got a we haven't said we've got a plan

but obviously we've had a lot of new staff and new players come in K on coming in next year

we'd like to think we're going to get two or three more signings I'd love to say that we're

good enough to go with the big dogs this year we'll win a lot of footy games this year but I'm

just realistic don't set stupid expectations so it's a stupid idea that they're going to win the

comp which it is if I said to Danny that we're going to win the comp that might have got more

attention no it probably wouldn't have every side would be saying finals out of doubt and where

on that as well finals is every team's in this company yeah right so just say finals listen

whatever that was before we have said we've got a plan listen I don't know what's he I like I

actually like I appreciate this about Flano is that he's not super media trained and you know

almost like prescriptive in his responses he's he says he's interesting to listen to talk and you

know you're going to get comments like this with him because he shoots from the hip a little

bit and he says what he thinks it's not a great one who gives it all but I'm like well you have

to acknowledge it if you're coaching like you know what I'm going to say about a second the thing

for me a little bit is that he's he's media sensibilities can be exposed sometimes right like

media speaking to the media engaging with the media getting your message across through the media

is an art form would Wayne Bennett ever say that you would think so he's never said it you know what

I mean Wayne Bennett when they lost all those troops at the start of last year was probably thinking

when no when no hope or winning the comp as it was they got third last he would never come out and

say that you speak to he just says fuck all why did he's got nothing to say you speak to like I

reckon if you spoke to every team every like little coaching you know the start of every season

it's like yeah no we're actually we've been doing pretty good everyone's impressed with like how

their teams gone in the off season until the season starts and it's like oh actually we're shit

oh we're really good or like yeah my out our thoughts have been realized or it's like oh actually

no all those things just any increases made all use and I'll use an Edward Simpson analogy if you

don't mind rolling year 12 we're training the house down in the off season training the house down

it was basically the same squad that we've had from the year before we're older we're stronger

we're heavier we're wiser we're in theory more talented right could we've been there we've done it

right we've got this new thing on the bottom of the boat that's supposed to be registering speed

and it's looking good we're looking quick yep real quick yeah right so you're excited about so you're

pumped and you're telling people if you stuck a mic in me man we're we're unbelievable we're

tracking beautifully where it was no stone left unturned house trained down etc etc all the

metrics stacking up yet to race day to get absolutely pumped absolutely fed and then you realize

that the dumb little thing yet on the bottom of the boat was fucking it wasn't bloody registering

properly or it wasn't seemed upright or whatever you know so you've been lied to it's yeah it's

until the whips of crack it's not what you want to say in preseason that's right that's right that's

right and and when and and when you can't see anyone behind you when funny because everyone's

fucking ahead of you are then it's you know it's revealing so I remember that was tough yeah

that was that was really really tough so see what you want to see see what you want to see in

in preseason yeah but now the season has started yeah yeah you you have no choice you see what's

there you see what's there you see what's there and I'm looking forward to the rest of the games going

on this weekend coming up I'm pumped for that who's Thursday night storm storm meals and then

um was roosters was roosters broncos panties um so fuck yeah dude rugby leagues back

Saturday sharkies titans manly brookie I think I'm going to try and get to that game seagulls raiders

dolphins rabbit os fucking oath um $92.92 what's saying

well the you know so even money for seagulls raiders love it broncos and you like those awful

sorry yeah it really is it's really bad it really is it's really bad it really is bad it's shocking

like even when you look at the bulldog you're like whatever it's not great no that's the broncos one's

awful yeah after a premiership year as well it's really really bad I'm not into it at all

no I feel bad sorry I don't really feel bad for him I don't fucking know I don't feel bad at all

you just want to come but that's an awful logo it was great to have the you know the NRL um

the the media circus returned to our screens last week you had uh brave and the boys in

NRL 360 jammed into the back of a car squished together um for the return of of the show in Vegas

what I did find funny or interesting and it's been reaffirmed today and we touched on this last

week I think but the the out and out media assault on Michael McGuire and him being under pressure

at the broncos after he's just want to comp their first in 20 years and I can't help but feel like

they're out some like not them specifically but just like that that someone there's something is

out to get Michael McGuire here like I can't understand how you can win a competition and be so

under the pump from the media the the next year when nothing is fucking happened except paint

horses left so this the first NRL 360 that was back the first one of the year you literally in

you want to have big big breaking news right like you literally in the days before I've had the

parameter heels forcing mat trip from the storm landies and abdo to have to be cross-examined in court

and they start with pain-hast signing with the broncos it's obviously a big story but it's not

brand new what's old it's an old news story in the in the in the in the quick

fast pace fast pace nature of rugby like media it's old story it starts with pain-hast signing

the the the the the rabbit knows and then quickly just becomes all about Michael McGuire and

well you know like this you know this there's a lot of reasons why you know pain-hast probably

gone but you can't you can't ignore the fact that you know there's a lot of whispers coming out

of the broncos of Michael McGuire and he's training methods and all this sort of shit and it's like

keep it and and it's not so much that those guys were saying that he should like that he should

be under pressure because of these things but just the mere acknowledgement that he is under pressure

because of his training methods to me I'm like if you just want the comp because of your training

methods in some small part at least then if you're hearing whispers that players are unhappy

the I would imagine the criticism should fall in the play as more like you've just want to comp

with this guy it clearly works what do you want here do you want to win competitions or you're not

like shut the fuck up or his training methods really hard yeah but they get results

there without any plays in the RL who would literally eat feces off of a toilet seat don't know why

but you've been to win a premiership well there they would there'd be bikes to be willing to do

more than eight feces off a toilet bowl you know to win calms yeah you know I do it for a

manly premiership I'm not even playing where where the line is to it varies play to play or I

but you'd imagine that they've been called club to club to club that's right but you'd imagine

that some bikes prepare to get up to some some really uncouth stuff in order to get a premiership

I'm I'm I'm reminded Tom in this moment of the Michael Jordan documentary where it was clear

to all in sundry that he was an absolute tyrant to train and work and be around right but you put

up with it because you're winning yeah time yeah the fact that this has come out now at the start

of the season when there hasn't been a game played the last game that these blokes played and I'm

not talking about the the world club changed because who gives a fuck about that the last fair

income game they played was the grand final and they won it breaking e what 22 23 year 19 year

drought right that's the last game of which I'm going to judge him and the last season on which I'm

going to judge him if we're halfway through the season and they've been going like a busted and then

it starts coming out all these training methods have been ramped up and the players have

described to it and they're losing and stuff then you start to maybe piece together you can start

to have a more measured competition conversation potentially add the fact that this is coming out

now now and because painhouse is left right is absolutely insane and but like that's just that

audio that you had that we went through could you try find the bit at the very end where they start

like revisionists historying like the way the Broncos won in the final it's like they won but it's

like oh you know there was something like oh those teams probably would probably tell you they

lost those games instead of the Broncos when you said they said they said that's so so for me we're

in hit job territory yeah that's where we are that feels like hit job territory if you're going

back going oh well what where is the value in going back and going oh well these teams are

two they lost or they should they shouldn't have they shouldn't have lost that game but they did

it's like what the fuck are you talking about or we can go off is the fact that they want it's just

an insane and now I don't know if this has got a hint of the like what trell is about it where

it gets clicked so they keep writing articles but like to me there's just no reasonable way that

even if you're here in whispers it's like it should be that's ridiculous there's not enough

it's ridiculous it's all like oh yeah no there it is I think at one point reedy shout out to

reedy friend of the show he was like imagine's probably going to be asking for a for a

ready to like a coaching renewal like his contact renewal or extension this year

and then he sort of went on to be like I don't think they have to I don't think they should give him

one I'm like what the fuck are we to say that reedy said they shouldn't give him one he was like

that enough to give him one I was like what do you mean you don't have to give him one he just

again and we'll whenever when we uncle reedy's probably in transit right now but he will I want

uh we'll be getting we'll be asking him oh we'll need to ask him but what what what's the angle

here reedy what what's the angle and and it's a tip of the iceberg apparently is that is that like

all these other players want to go now if that's true there's obviously a problem yeah okay but

that hang on if players want to go specifically based on his training methods then I need to see

him yeah I need you need you need to show me what these blokes are getting put through yeah show me

clearly and outline it this is what the sessions are yeah this is what they're doing and we can

make up our own fucking mind yeah because there's probably I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if

there's blokes down in high road gyms doing significantly harder work every day getting paid

fuck all pay for their own flights to the world championships and ships they can put up Instagram

stories and look jacked and high that's their own you know that's the heart stream yeah but like

sweet great but I'm saying how hard is the work oh I need to know how hard it's because it's

been made out like it is so hard it's like work came stuff yeah this is this is this is this is

this is gulag post-war war two we got arrested at Stalingrad we were deathmarts to fucking gulags

in the east past the year olds and I was made to work for 50 years like and what I died where is

where is it on the scale of gulag to bloody is a POW stuff what do you know what I mean like I

need I need to know where it sits because and I will say this Eddie if it is prisoner of war like

conditions yeah then I'm prepared to hear the gripes of the players but I bet yeah 1000 percent

but I've but I've not seen any evidence all I've heard is blokes we split he's spilling my

he was he was blokes made pre-season they were bloody forming it into buckets mate

what the fuck are you talking about are you fair to him of course you were that's what

preseason has about preseason is mate tell me times I fucking thrown up when I was rowing and

shit yeah what you haven't thrown up in a session what the fuck are we talking about or Jeff

where we need to get we pay my vomiting threshold we pay for that we fucking pay for that people pay

to vomit what are we talking about it's you're getting paid I just haven't seen any like crazy

evidence about this stuff I just haven't and and and there's and in the absence of that evidence

what's the point and continually continually keeping it in the fucking trust me man it's hard

training is it is how hard is it yeah is it as hard as like a Floyd may wear the boxing session

for fucking two hours like a thousand a thousand bloody punches heavy punches on the heavy bag like

what where where is it in the sky also like if it let's say it is true and there's other players

there if I'm a Broncos fan I'm like wait he's you coach now shut the fuck up and deal with it and

maybe like you're gonna you you want to derail a season have this shit the whole time to be

faired in work last year when they try to do it but it's like it's just a consistency of it if

you got this year what was yeah this is the clip where they start talking about the teams losing

it at the end of last year I don't think they can they they caught fire like in the season you know

like that we'll never see a run like that from a team or a run like that from a player and we

breathe well freely ever again it's his competition that's right but so the leaders had them

each yeah pen with had them beat yeah and Melbourne if you talk to Melbourne well if you go talk

to those three teams behind closed doors I reckon they'd say that they lost those game Brisbane

with fantastic the run respulsion the grand final probably the greatest I think 80 minutes out of

watched at that level but I think they can do it again but it's got to be player driven but I'm

talking about finals it's player driven yeah I'm not so much talking about the run they had

last year and and Reese was on fire and all that I mean the fact that Haas is moving on they've

lost the World Club challenge not again I'm not reading too far into that but it's there a couple

of hurdles early on could have derailed well they've got two thirty six year old halfbacks that

didn't finish the game so that's the elephant in the room they got young kids so are you keeping the

best front rower arguably to play the game or you're keeping two thirty six year old halfbacks I

think they got that upside down like I really do my pain has has to be at their club and he's not

now so they got to move forward so they got to see not this year this is their last chance to drive

through the problem down I'm not only concerned I think pain wasn't pain asked signing one year

extensions for a while to keep his options open in them yeah yeah right he was almost done

after he's 60 yeah yeah like he's he's been looking around for a while yeah he has like we've

been talking about pain has potentially going on another club for a couple of years now so yeah yeah

um I just it's just not enough for me I get that you would want pain asked like if you lose him

as a club it's like that's not a good look right as in you lose your best fucking player and

arguably the best probable time it's not to say that that's not a like that's not a good look for

the club obviously he's come out and like I that the the reasons I've heard given his super complex

family dynamics seem pretty reasonable in terms of their explanations and let's then let's

there's something these blocks know that we don't well of course they could be right they get in

the whispers and they're angling they're saying without saying it but it just feels like

they did it last year and then they won the comp and then it started again before the season

even kicked off you just a bit like it doesn't if you know it like if that it just it feels

the thing is as well like they might they they can just be reacting to mail again right I'm not

I'm not in at any point here inferring that brave friend of the show ready friend of the show

where be friend of the show gaudy friend of the show are in any way axe grinding or themselves

doing it but something feels like there is a gender driven with match here I don't know where

it's coming from but this morning we wake up after vagus and on fox league mg's been quoted

about match and I like that it even fucking play on the weekend it's got post three hours ago

mark i what I do keep hearing a lot is matches name been mentioned but not in positive ways

yeah that's all anyone mark i'm Michael McGuire's coaching methods that's all anyone's hearing

all but all all we've ever heard for the last couple of decades is that Craig Bellamy's pre-seasons

are brutal yeah does any no it's but it's never said in a negative way I need someone to explain

to me why he's a worse or different like we've the only the only sort of touch points we got is

the is the bentio story when they had to divide black wise and white rice sounded awful it did but

they won a comp that's the thing but you know i don't know what i'm saying is we're sitting here

in the dark yeah and magma guay is being consistently and repetitively

badge it in the media before the seasons even start and they just won the comp and it's confusing

to me and that's all i'm saying that's that that's it you know mg and no one no one from the media

is coming out and saying this is why let me show you yeah so for exact they could go for example

most teams if not so the other 16 teams will do this in pre-season for example and the broncos have

done this right like show me and maybe you can't maybe you can't maybe like you're working

show me working because you keep it's it's coaching methods coaching methods over and over and over

and over and over that's repeated sort of allows you to coaching methods coaching methods coaching

methods what do you mean by that give me give me more detail um crazy i just find it crazy and also

maybe a little bit boring as a subject matter like if if he just he just led arguably the best

finals charge in history one and origin before that the season before that typically

city typical city media well it's actually interesting i wonder what the as he's getting

shit on in the the courier mail because we don't see that no we don't know again it's on like it's

on n oil 360 for starters but even this like them quoting mg on two gb two gb i believe currently

still owned by nine like these guys don't even mention the each others shows like 100% 40 and

then oil 360 don't even name each other it's like oh uh daily jerry haven't said on a not another

program or when they're and they're like oh yeah if i can Tony messeroff called up a fox show and

yet they're quoting mg on a channel nine fucking radio station it's actually now owned by the

laundry fans is it officially owned is that changed hands yet? January 2026 it changed hands well

there you go that makes sense and so i was like good god i knew he'd purchase but i wasn't sure

whether um she'd changed yeah whether she'd changed hands but again it's like you can't knock

my guy for saying that because of course that's what he's heard everyone's hearing that it's just

more like why i'd kill to be uh a year out i like to have to have just one apprenticeship and

know that my coach is absolutely bearing the players about yep back to it it's very very interesting

and you just wouldn't see the same rhetoric in other industries like any investment banking

is someone going oh no i made that work too i they were people to fucking need a death yeah

like people leave the office at three in the morning you get back at six yeah like people

are sick all the time and shit they literally they work them to the fucking end of their bloody

tether exactly gulag stuff gulag stuff these bikes get a couple days off a week

we're just a days off hardy eyes and like and and the offseason i just want someone to show me

what what's so hard is it yeah how is it is it is it is personality as well like is he he seems

like a reasonably nice but it's co it's always coaching methods coaching methods coaching methods work

with with um all mate from perth the bloody cricket coach who's you know Justin Langhart was

it was more about his prickliness his divisiveness he's the way he spoke to players was the way

that it was more reported right this coaching methods things makes it keep sounding like they're

working him they're working the boys too hard if someone knows more please reach out because this

one's got me by the walls yeah whisper to us whisper to us we weren't out yet no we weren't but as a

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paramedic are not fucking around we see NRL I'm into it they've subpoenaed pvl abdo and

matte trip so they've all got to go to court I'm into it let's see what let's let's just follow

it's let's just let's just let's just let's just let's let's pay the loan man like I'm not paid

to say that I mean don't just don't subpoena pvl because we're on the take do yeah man like

because we're on the take like because we're on the take we're going to we're going to back

paid of landings and say don't subpoena and like that probably will work yeah that's it man that's

probably going to work me in like we've we like we sweep we talk about it man like I don't reckon

that the courts will go spurnery many more man yeah let's see how that works boy don't subpoena

Pete yeah man see how that goes that might work yeah no that'll work for sure man um but

man that'll work for sure man that'll fucking work for sure man yeah man that's pain of peep

mean uh that's pain of peep me and we and then like you like it's painer than that means no I know

me mean um anyway show that to Pete but listen that's interesting see here we go watch this space

sort of stuff watch this space not much else can add paramount of fans won't blood though and

paramount of the club won't blood and it's funny to watch they won't blood and I just wanted to

like is there I don't mind when a club the club wants to blood no neither I like it we'll listen

dude as long as it's not awesome give a fuck it's got nothing to do with manly great no nothing

to do with us we don't have any dramas great give me that then give me that then we just go on and

we just win um that's all that really matters but it's also like bitter blade bitter you know bitter

bitter drama oh there's drama mate there's drama um and so just before we bow it

I just want you to like sort of just enlighten me what is it that the eels want

yeah yeah listen there's a there's a reasonable question what part of what they want is something for

Zach right so they like if you want Zach then um if you want Zach then you got to pay us for it

you you could argue the storm have offered have made them three offers three otherwise

but they don't like those offers and that's fine otherwise otherwise they otherwise you can't play

they're not going to let him play rugby yeah yeah okay and they have taken it to court because

they believed that they needed to take the NRL's influence out of it and so when they see the

text from Matt trip to oh I don't know maybe it wasn't Matt trip but they text from the storm to

abdo being like uh can you put a fire under him Justin Rodsky the CEO uh they're like well

fuck we don't want the NRL to do that obviously the NRL want uh want Zach to be playing rugby league

get that that's fine um I don't it's hard to know with it until this all comes out as we've said

before but like that text message in isolation to me could be justified in in other ways like

obviously it's not good as in like I if it was something to manly you'd be like fuck off

it's you kind of need to define what's a reason what what a reasonable terms for the eels

what do we think is reasonable for the eels to get Zach Lomack to for them to to give Zach Lomack

to the storm what is reasonable and I don't really know what reasonable is the courts deciding

what's reasonable no I don't I don't know what the fuck they're deciding I think maybe they're

deciding the the specifics around his contract and whether they like Zach is trying to be in breach

of contract I think that is what the courts are deciding but if if you just for a second

if we're in the in the uh interest of trying to understand or trying to land on what is reasonable

from the uh of an offer for the eels to get the storm have put forward three different offers

100 200 300 I think and and then one of them they're taking the taking Madison Madison

which I would imagine means the eels would be breaking the contract with him not a big deal uh but

if let's just say the most recent one is reasonable then can you can you can you

can you justify the storm messaging the NRL being like make can you fucking put it rock it up

I'm like we're putting a reasonable offer forward if the offer isn't reasonable the third one

then that request almost isn't appropriate because it's like well you haven't given them a good

offer so don't go start asking the fucking NRL put a good offer on the table and then if they're

still not reactive then the NRL could be like you could be like mate can you help us out do you

know what I mean I do and so unless you know whether the offer's reasonable or not which I don't

it's sort of hard to work it out but the eels aren't happy with it so we'll see what happens

everyone everybody getting subpoenaed dude everybody and it's been delayed hasn't it

well certain ones have because Matt trips in Vegas until uh the 11th of March and then

pvl and abdel obviously still over there so it'll be after that which means that he ain't playing

this weekend he ain't playing Thursday night it was never going to no that was a talk anyway

it's all interesting all a bit of fun not for Zach no limbo land for him

then but full limbo land now punters jibbles we did just spend a bit of time talking about

zakalo max and maybe some of that is kept in and still relevant but as we've just finished the

podcast uh apparently now paramata and storm locked in final last minute negotiations to try

to avoid supreme court so like and I just read one comment like all paramata talk to be

game it's like maybe they're just we're using it as a tactic to get what they want it's like yeah

we're gonna subpoena or all your motherfuckers if you don't give us what we want

it's a supreme court expensive I would imagine yep and and not a good look for the game as the

season starting it would drag the fuck on no one needs it and so they'll be like give us a

player or it's not happening give us more money it's pretty simple so like to be honest if paramata

come out of his game what they want I'm like they've actually played this very well oh we'll be

able to run an eye yeah depending on what people get yeah you'll know we'll work it out

but it's like they've gone they've gone hard in the paint here sorry not fucking with us I sort

of respected I do I do for sure I've been negotiating all night and the trial was set to begin

this morning but the lawyers were both sides of us for more time to try and keep uh oh the trial

was meant to be today so we can start today yeah and so they've been negotiating all nine

negotiating all night it's crazy to me I'm like sure this is so simple yeah yeah like they're

probably drumming it up they've been negotiating all night like what how much do you go back and forth

on shit that's it's one thing is it pretty much like give us this this is what we want give us one

of these things or something you know it's not some super complex deal no you're buying a tech

company or something you know it's just like no no it's not but it's rugby league yeah well you're

right forgive me yeah forgive me that was silly anyway don't know how this thing fits into that whole

check so I can't remember what we said but it's in there now shout out to Tom slingsby and the bonds

flying rules for having us uh the cell GP on the weekend good fun it was actually fantastic really

good bit of fun Saturday sun was shining we get down to the boat broke out drinking band by day

little bit hung over so I'd broken it the day before there you go use flush you know what I mean

but it's say it's the same 24 hours exactly so whatever um

I have I was a little bit hung out here you were yeah a little bit uh we get on there

it's always to be and you just try to get the lay of the land you like Jesus on the island

I've been in the island since my 21st little bit overwhelming but we found a glorious spot to

perch up yeah the second level of the island might have been a VIP area that we just happened

to find us a way into there was no VIP rope do no there wasn't there wasn't there was we just got

settled we got settled we had our own bar there was a bloat running up or derves it was we got

it we had we had a nice system going that I was loving it was too good to be true it was it was

heaving downstairs heavy and we just found this small little upstairs area as Eddie said a

personal bar uninterrupted views our own seating a TV there to watch the race it was in

or does just rolling through rolling through as soon as we got out there oysters came through it was

just it was incredible they then they they you know you see you see a few people in official team

regalia and lanyards and you go shit okay like this might not be our area but again there was no

velvet rope to be seen so we just we just kept to ourselves enjoyed ourselves and then

pretty quickly you could tell some old sailing noob probably it was like okay the fuck of these

guys in loud shirts there was something there must have been things said yeah because the security

came up with a UD area you said but he did say it goes it'll be opened up again but just for now

which was a lie we got lied to it was a good it was effective yeah because I was like I mean

I mean we wouldn't have kicked up a stink anyway but it was a you know but it's an anti-stinct

there was also a famous person on this the chick from I don't know a name I don't know who she is

she's a redhead and she's an American TV doctor but she was there she was on the boat with us to

get out and I was like I know that chick is but I don't know who she is she was up in the moves

and shakers area though once we got kicked out is all I'm saying yeah and I don't want it it

sounds like we've been complaining it was not it was we we certainly did not deserve to be in the

V.I.P we're painting a picture we're painting a picture of how we were allowed into the garden of

Eden yes and then we were asked to leave because we had the forbidden fruit which was uh

apparel's every three minutes basically it was like the bartender was probably like these guys

are getting through and they just got up here um but it was great dude free food and booze and

we took advantage of that I I'd like the cocktail mixture that went into my body was

tremendous but it also had a lot to do with my general disposition on the stream yesterday um

the ruse got out to an early dub first race it's just what I found I'd never watched the salgp before

it's actually very consumable you sort of it's all it's very quick ironically it was a slow

it was a slow race day it didn't feel it like it looks quick out there looks quick but the top

speed was like 50k things at 60 yeah 60 was the maxes things we got yeah compared to the 102

weeks they had a hundred and Auckland two weeks ago um but one the first it's like four races and

they're like eight minutes a pop yeah I can I can I can do this you know I mean it's not one where

and when you're watching it on tv there's like a full gridded system so like there are times when

we were in front and I'm like how how in God's name could you say we're in front then you're

looking at it in the sort of gridded system on the tv gridded system on the tv makes it very

easy to observe to observe um and it was the start and finish line right in front of us and when

we win the race slingsby brings that boat straight pass oh my god yeah that was good stuff um

we get on the boat and we're you know we're enjoying ourselves orders and the like and then we get

asked to commentate the final race which look it took me off guard I knew that I had a lot of

cocktails between that final race actually starting and I wasn't going to slow down for anyone

but I was like okay I guess you can't say no when you're on the boat can you no you can't

and we bought a bit of luck to it though well we did he won the final race because they won the final

race although sunday didn't go their way no I saw the yanks on a some poppin champagne and that

made me seek to my stomach we didn't ever make the final no after we left we left day one second

well thank god we we only went on day one then because for us it felt like a win felt like we won

the whole thing it did because we won the last race and we left victorious but I was dismayed to say

that the things didn't go their way and I'm like the yanks didn't throw a shot no the yanks

on day one day one awful awful awful anyway thanks you have a happiness

because I had I thoroughly enjoyed all I had a great time I get a ball share it's Tom Slinges

we want to share that to Tom Slinges he won the all-time greats and we will play golf at Wakehurst

sooner rather than let us I don't know if you know this but our part aren't like Pereira has

vacated his light heavyweight world title going up going up oh yeah going up the whispers

the time has arrived whispers of the White House card great to go to San Pete mid-year

June July I wonder if it's around in is it around the bloody fourth of July sort of right

but yeah dude yeah wow yeah so that's pretty horny stuff right that's incredible

um and then not knowing who I don't it won't be Tom Aspinal because he's still out with his eye

so they're like will it be for an interim world title or will they strip Tom Aspinal while he's

out and just make it for a real one who's he gonna fight is it gonna be John Jones is it gonna

if it's not John Jones and it's not Tom Aspinal who is it Cyril Garn again who just keeps

getting title fights even though he's not winning anything ring John Burke well yeah John

John wants the White House yeah but he's fucked around with the Tom he fucked he fucked him

around last year was this is the general give me give me Jones for Eric give me give me a

give me a mega John Jones will walk through him if he does give me a mega fight when was the last

time we saw a mega fight then it all yeah yeah probably aspin I can't even really remember

do you know who else that there's a whispers are though probably probably islam vogue islam and

vogue maybe maybe you know who else they're talking about though and this like honestly if you

want to if you want to talk about piggy at the content trough please daddy you know content gods

please kind of Nate three dude come on give me Connor Nate three like we're running out of time

for that to be a thing it's it's the it's it's the end like this is it is you have to do it now

surely if you're gonna do it apparently I was trying to work out was it the day Connor Nate

three would be huge those two fights were so special particularly the second one was just

unbelievable I heard someone talking about what's Nate doing well he left the UFC he's done some

boxing and shit like for Jake Paul Dana's set to an answer card this week yeah it's on June 14th

June 14th just do Connor Nate three dude just do that yeah no but they wanted they want to make

this thing like as stacked as humanly possible like that this is a White House card so they're like

they're not doing tickets like it's like invite only so I think but I heard someone saying the

reason they don't wouldn't do a conner is because you commercially it's it's it's pointless

but then it's like but do you want it but but do you want to like come on yeah this has got to

be historical doesn't it make it historic because because you're not getting the gate the gate

revenue yeah but like shit dude come like fuck that for one you can sell it surely this

was because they haven't got the paper yeah but you get the subs to go through the route for

the whole paper view subs kind of still the number one jaw on the sport yeah hasn't fought for

fucking three years five years five years I think so are you serious is it been five years I think

is how he broke it what did he he hasn't fought since he broke his leg I know he hasn't no but

was that five years ago I think so 11th july 2021 oh my god yeah I know where does it go it goes

to where does it go that's all I know it goes it fucking barfies yeah holy shit I was 32

etch uh because the conner's been anglin for this White House card since that was in there

but he's angling for shit all the time it's hard to know like he says a lot you know he says heaps

that it's almost it's all that's too good to be true isn't it yeah possibly quite possibly

when's the last time Nate for that's why it's good that's why that works for me as it's like

these guys haven't fought for ages because if you put it a conner against anyone who's been in

there for a long time I just like I think that it kind of gets fucked up by anyone who's had

any semblance of he's done recent fighting two old dogs man even when they do have Michael

Chandler and they're like oh yeah Michael Chandler's a good match up for Conner I'm like yeah but he's

been fighting he's been dogged you know can I be honest with you a bit of a you like

Michael Chandler does nothing for me the only fight I want to see Conner now fight is Nate that's

and I heard someone saying like it's actually they think it's a bad match up for Conner in that

Nate is a god damn like you can just bash this shit out of him and he won't get stopped like Nate's

everyone talk about Max's chin Nate's Nate's I think been stopped once and he got his head kicked

off like that's I don't think Nate's actually have been knocked out outside of that um but Nate's

cardio is also insane which kind of has been out for ages and Conner's cardio is always triathlons for

give or forgive he loves it yeah and I would I would love that it'd be so so so so hot Conner's

found God though Matt hasn't he hey that's found God so maybe he's been back in the lab maybe

probably more of a Thursday thing and I think we will do it on Thursday as opposed to today

but a lot of people think Jim Carey's been cloned I know yeah that's wild like Dolly the shape yeah

but even the eyes well listen it doesn't look like him but that I don't know that means he's been

cloned or whether he's just got his face full of shit anyway we will say that for Thursday I think

also he's probably a bit remiss of us to a way this long but RIP to McCoyby diva yes rest in

piece McCoyby a champion becomes a legend up one of the greatest to have ever done it three

straight cups also want a Cox played I believe just an absolute superstar Tom and she's going to

be sorely missed she already is sorely missed she joins black caviar who we didn't know who we

parted who we've forgotten we'd forgotten of course there's not many left wingsie girl wingsie girl

wingsie girl remains follow black cav McCoyby dives and you know obviously our thoughts are with

Bruce McAvani at this time who I believe was going through it over the weekend Bruce was going

through it over the weekend um and we said what's an old tape I'll tape um I'll you know

home movies and photos of them together on holidays and shit where where'd she been spending your time

McCoyby Bruce's house well you know not every weekend but well I thought they were married well

I think Bruce was nipping up to see her yeah right yeah up the top paddock yeah yeah yeah yeah

yeah like McCoyby Devin I'm not gonna you're not gonna keep McCoyby Devin a house in Adelaide I

know probably not I mean no of course I don't know I'm assuming Bruce has acreage we

you'd want to if you're gonna have McCoyby knocking about um would she up the hunter

seven to look collic this side ask chat yeah have you asked chat no I'll ask it now you were

anti-chart aren't you yeah it's not that good I'll ask it to see what it says yeah it's better

than you uh yeah but you need to discern like the sources that it's using uh a big source guy

big check in your source well he's always prided himself on that uh Victoria

on the McCoyby racing and breeding farm she had her own farm she commercialized herself was that

was that chart or was it was uh that was chart right we checked the source yeah it's from the

Guardian article so it's safe yeah safe for broadcast okay yeah right yep nice um

I'll show that up as a win first yeah chat check got that one uh mate sorely missed sorely missed

put your salt looks out put your salt looks out um and send your best to Bruce if you are if

you know him well enough to do so now at a you and I um have an announcement to make here we do

um and a long time coming it's been a long time coming um but it feels like the right time feels

like the right time to do it and it's a step away just to step away for um for a period of time um

well we're going on as is it a sojourn it's a sabbatical what's a sojourn a sojourn's like a holiday

we're going on a sabbatical like Pep Guardiola did yeah or like after he'd been a buyer yeah yeah

uh and that's and before he went to Man City yeah we're talking about uh and from acting yeah

specifically Daniel Day Lewis when I won as well Daniel he came a cobbler Daniel Day took

some time off acting and he went and became a cobbler and Eddie and I whilst we may not cobbler we

might we are are you are you are you seriously fed in in the feeding him department ruling out

cobbler no I'm not like our hero Daniel Daniel Day was close personal friend Daniel Day um he

took time away from acting to cobbler and that we're in our cobbling era from acting specifically um

now what's prompt and the only thing the only thing that might bring us back is if Leo comes

with us yeah for us to be in squirrel yeah well like if Scorsese comes along maybe if it's like

you know gangs in New York tours and like with Leo again maybe we think about it like Daniel did

now what are you talking about boys uh I can hear you ask and probably some of you thought we

were legitimately stepping away from podcasting though just acting um some of you may or may not

have seen a video last week uh on the uh hello sports socials and also on the good day social

of Eddie and I um yeah in a video down at Bondi Beach which you know some say wasn't our best

work I tend to agree part of me and that by part of me I'm in every part of me knew that before

the video was posted and I um persevered well we had to basically don't matter but we had to

and one thing's good is that you know it's a reminder to anyone on social media that if you just

don't look then well I haven't watched it no no no I wouldn't um but that you know the comments

don't even you they didn't happen the video could have killed it and and I wouldn't know

you know what I mean but I mean we know it didn't because the video stunk but you know a lot of

that's also down to the editing which we blame Seb for he was the director of the of the shoot um

once once we've done our job it's in the hands of the editor which is it's it's it's well I think

I think that's a great point is that you know the editor takes a lot of responsibility and a lot

of honest is placed on on the editor because you can edit I mean just ask people on maps so you

get a bad editor you can ruin your life you get a great edit you can make you look incredible

obviously Seb I gave us a bad edit it is what it is well and that's been largely because he

resents us um which is fine which is fine I mean jealousy is a pretty ugly trade but it's a you

know resentment away you're from the inside out yeah inside out like what answer exactly right

you want to add in yourself so listen off the back of that that performance in that video

we're just gonna step away from it we're stepping away from acting not for a lot not not for ages listen

I'm not quitting the the craft but I'm stepping away like Daniel day did like Daniel day we were we

consulted Daniel stepping away like Daniel day yeah um we consulted Daniel on the decision just

weren't listen Daniel not every not every movie is Lincoln or gangs of New York is it Daniel

he has no mate no they're not not all of them uh and and then you know at some point you need

to step away and just find out who the man is in the mirror in the mirror and what you're about

and sometimes you're gonna get back to basics yeah back to using your hands yeah exactly right

and that's cobbling um but what we are gonna do because we are we're elite in our you know

honesty in our taking of licks was we just had tobler get a couple of the best favorite comments

together that we're gonna hear today are we reading them game is well and truly gone if this

doesn't get you logies numb at the very least that's from the bar round thank you to Jimmy

Kalim was sharp friend of the show I've seen enough give them an Oscar yeah this is this is too

positive for my liking this is these are actually who green lead this yep fair from scott dot com

dot are you humiliation ritual at its finest yep okay yep okay with the stunt ramp up now

just shoot him I see okay this whole segment's brought you by good double yeah of course

tough watch kid sure Ash thank you Ash uh is there a second part with this really comes

yeah yeah no there isn't no a lot of you to ask your project about this yep yep yep yep

yep tough watch tough watch yep sure treno treno I like that um I've so many questions but the

most pressing one is what the fuck yep thank you as I yeah yeah yeah love it yep it's made me

keep my dog uh sorry to your dog okay fair there's a quite a few years isn't it

yep yep yep yep it's a kind of these types of production that does remind me we will be doing the

producer verse producer new camera verse new camera uh short films yeah we've got our own

chop fest yes yes that's coming up yep but almost backwards shipping stars very total risk I'll

say this river sound festival whatever that is um do you backwash I don't know I'm just like

of all the things you could pick there I don't know what the fuck you're talking about say you

get a bit of backwash about you backwash if it's your own drink yeah as in like obviously if you

drink and spit it back in how how would you have me well I think if it's your pouring into your

mouth and then you know it's putting it back here yeah well listen whatever that's the that's

the least of my worries this was really fucking weird yeah yeah okay again the edit was great wasn't

great tough watch kids already had that uh what you've just done is some most insanely idiotic

thing I was saying at no point you're rambling here promo or even close to any if you consider

rational so whatever and so isn't that dumb and watch it yeah yeah yeah right yeah that's a uh

medicine yep that's really medicine it had acting at gunpoint ritual yeah yeah

Eddie surely gave the pause button a phrase he didn't watch it and then there was one on a video

that we posted over the weekend and um still not as tough as these comments are on like other

things we've done yeah nice nice nice still not as tough as watching the good day beach video fair

that's just the latest accountability yeah no it is all that is is just guys who are off to cobble

being accountable to you know to their work they work yeah obviously there's a you know shock

horror steps not here because he's not accountable no he's not no he's not in fact in you we

are this on today any to the day off yeah there was a bit of the famous rhyme about it

we said that guy on Instagram the guy who the Indian fella who does all those different scenarios

and acts him out oh I love that guy so do I but he's like very overacted huh he's very overacted

in a lot of things oh it's quite funny is that right is that what you're saying we overact yeah

would you say that's a Daniel day yeah would you fucking a fresh off the cobble yeah if you overacted

Jesus Christ would you say that to Daniel that that was mean I mean we just took in all of that

accountability I know we're just and from your own family from your own kin no less that sounded

like he fucking wanted to give that to us that was well that was felt personal yeah I did that

felt personal again would you say that to Daniel they Lewis fresh off a cobble no probably not

probably not would you set it to Christ off while it's after we went back to back Oscars you know

no you wouldn't probably not probably not overact would you tell Christ off Waltz he overacted

I don't think he has it in his bastard would you and Django and Shane would you say that

I don't think they have overacting him well okay I'm just really again again again I just

trying to work out where this is coming from yeah just holding you accountable yeah well listen

I don't know watch again I don't know where the overacting thing is coming from

I think we actually that's not making much sense and I need to reiterate once more that you know

sometimes yeah you sign yourself over to an editor who's not quite up to it and

you leave yourself exposed you need to you need to choose wisely yeah that's what I've learned

listen in a roundabout way it's it's not goodbye it's we'll see you later in the acting game yeah

we may come back we may not we may never come back we may fall in love with cobblin

that'll be the last you save us yeah anyway is that us I think that's probably us

say out of the pattern of the dribble shout out to the pun on the dribble uh

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