#4692 If I Had A Ninnyhammer

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1:02Psycho, screwy, and totally unbalanced. Laser pointers? You know what I'd like to do? I'd like to take my laser car and drive it off of a laser cliff. Do you believe that? I do if you do. But it's absurd. What would happen if you went on stage and you didn't set off the fireworks and you didn't break up the guitar and you didn't have the smoke and the fire and the blood and all that. You just came out and did your thing. Well, I've got to run. I can hear the blender crying. Coming, baby! Well, all right, hello. Good morning and welcome everyone to a Thursday edition of TVTL. The show that just might be too beautiful to live. This ship doesn't go anywhere except in circles. My name's Luke Burbank, I'm your host. You paint your balls butt. One balls butt. Coming to you from the Matrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Columbia where it is Thursday the 26th of March. And in a matter of hours, I'll be attending.

2:03Opening day, Seattle Mariners, Cleveland Guardians. The crack in the back, the whore of the crowd. That's right, baseball's back. Sighting, exciting times. But not before we've completed our efforts here on episode 4,692 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. And we're going to do something fun today on this Thursday. As tends to happen, folks are kind enough to call into the TBTL voicemail line. That's 206-414-TBTL and leave us messages. And then sometimes those messages will start to though they'll accumulate. And every once in a while, we would like to try to get to some of them. So we don't have too many accumulating. So I'm trying to use that phone. We're going to do some females today. And we're going to talk to this guy, longest running co-bro of the show, maybe best known. First depictions of the tall ships, something else. Do you have any idea who I am? I'm a verified Yelp complainer. You may not know about him. He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke. I just did something unprecedented that is going to potentially take up

3:08maybe one or two minutes here at the top of the show if you don't mind. A few small minutes. A few small minutes. I just made literally a quiz for myself. Now, how does one make a quiz for themselves? Can you even quiz yourself? Doesn't your body know it's you? Could God make a quiz so hard? It's so difficult. Could God still have one of his handers couldn't pass it? Okay, here's, here's, you played sexy planners. You played a drop in the intro that I am unfamiliar with. But I have come up with four things that I'm totally guessing might be true about that drop. And I'm going to tell you what those four things are. I already know which drop it is, by the way. Which one is it? It's got to be this one. The ship doesn't go anywhere except in circles. Yes, and here is what I think I know about this drop. Thinking, first of all, I think I've never heard it before. So that's my biggest assumption here. My brain just filled in a lot of context for that, which could be totally off base.

4:09But that, to me, feels like tape number one from the 1990s. Number two, feels like a local television broadcast that I'm thinking local to this area. Number three, I feel like it's a feature that comes from a TV magazine style show, like a feature piece. And number four, I'm going on a limb here, and this might just be where my mind is in this part of the year. I think it might even be mariners related. Could it be something about a boat that drives around the outfield in the 1990s or something? So those are my four assumptions. Do I get any of them right? Do I get 100% am I a good boy? You are asking the wrong person. Oh, no. I have absolutely no idea. I do know that I loaded this first of all. I believe you have heard this drop at some point, only because I must have snagged this. I have no idea when.

5:10I have no idea where it's from. But I can tell by the way that I haven't described as opposed to your very sort of, and I mean, this in the best kind of way, you're very routinized, repetitive, repeated way that you label your audio drops, which is helpful. I don't do that. I just write any old thing on, like, for instance, what was this called? Yeah. Or do you know what this is? It's called this ship doesn't go anywhere. Oh, okay. I see where you did this. This ship doesn't go anywhere except in circles. Oh, so I don't know. I don't know. I know that I must have pulled it at some point. I'm guessing I played it because I just was scrolling through the thousands of drops I have in iTunes today or whatever they call it now and found it. But that's all I can tell you about it. And I apologize. If I did see, like, for instance, this is a drop that you sent me because it says, all caps, p, p, e, hyphen, we, w, e, e, hyphen, trying hyphen, two hyphen, use hyphen, phone. And it's right to use that phone.

6:13And this is also you, Kimmy, all caps, K-I-M-M-Y, hyphen, Schmidt, hyphen, Yelp, hyphen, complainer. Do you have any idea who I am? I'm a verified Yelp complainer. Yeah, I do that, I do that. And that's useful. And I'm sorry that I didn't do that because that means we'll never know the answer. Do you have, yeah, I kind of, yeah, slug things with like all caps for the show it comes from. And then usually then the rest is descriptor. And sometimes I even will put in like several words that are like kind of similar. Sometimes I'll even put, I'm like, if I'm looking for this on the fly, I'll probably misspell it. So sometimes I put various spellings of things in there. So smart because like, I am weirdly, sometimes, I'll be like, oh, I don't want to make this so long. But like, who cares? The title, first of all, all it does is give my searches a better chance of returning the audio drop in the moment. And no one's looking at it. And also there's just a point where it is an ellipses. I've got some words and an ellipses. And then that just, that just lives in the brain of the program.

7:14I don't care. I could write Webster's dictionary in there. This is why we don't use any drops with the word or reing a tank. I don't think one of the hardest words, rust, restaurateur. I saw somebody on a newscast say, this restaurateur, a restaurateur, I heard a restaurateur. I heard her put that in there and I just thought, let me just, my friend, can I just ask one of you? One more question about this drop. Do you have any sense of how long it's been kicking around in another words? Sometimes you say that really, really old drop, some get lost to history because of transferring of computers. Like, do you know based on the fact that you have access to it on this particular computer that it must have been like the past five or 10 years? I'm trying to get some metadata on it. I've now gone back to Apple Music, where it is. It thinks it's been played two times in this program.

8:15You played it twice today. Well, that's the thing I'm not playing it in this program. If that makes you sense, this is kind of the, it's in the warehouse. Oh, no. This doesn't help dang it. Okay, no. Literally this thing is called, this ship doesn't go anywhere except in circles. That's all. And if you right-click on it, you can't get like on a Windows, you right-click details and it'll tell you when it was made. Let's get info on the phone. Oh, okay, it's called, this ship doesn't go anywhere except in circles. That's the details. That's great, okay. All right, the last place. Oh, no, here we go. It's been played twice. The last one, as far as it knows, as far as Apple Music, whatever, iTunes, it thinks the last time I played, it was 516 of 24. Okay, okay. So it might have been a, you know, later addition to the lexicon or to the library because, yes, it probably was not from like something you were using in the old radio days or something. No, no, no, no. Well, I'm sorry, that's all set with it. I'm kind of bummed that I focused on it so much now. It feels way more frustrating than it needed to.

9:16I should have just enjoyed the intro. But also, I'm just wondering if let's see here. Well, you know what, I was getting slightly triggered by one of the drops that was in the intro package that you put together. Oh, yeah. I can maybe help with that. What did you hear? And I'm just typing, by the way, I did this in Google, but in circles. Ah, let's see. I get an AI overview that's making shit up. I have the physics behind why the expansive circling ship was wrong. Oh, no, that sounds funny. I've got why ships don't sail on a straight line. Yeah, I don't think I'm not getting any good. Anything that's kind of helping me narrow it down. And of course, this is one of the few times where the listeners can't be a help because it's not pulled from some larger thing. It isn't like a piece of news tape we got obsessed with or something like that. This is what happens, though, when I'm just freelancing. Like, I'm sure that I was just like watching something online, probably on TikTok. That seemed funny to me.

10:17I clipped it, sent it to myself. Played it one time, or maybe two times on the show. But now, sorry, that wasn't for emphasis. I'm just fudzing with my bell. The drop that you played that had me kind of thinking life is weird is that Ted Coppel drop? Yeah, right. That came from, I think, our friend Bean. I love that drop so much. I work with Ted Coppel. He's a frequent contributor to CBS Sunday morning. And if the thing about Ted Coppel, and I like him and I respect him and he's good, but they give him so much time for his pieces. He is like, I'm in a knife fight in a phone booth trying to get four and a half minutes for Robert Therry and the artist. And like, when there's a couple piece in the show, you know, you're host. He's going to get 15 minutes. He's going to have, however much time he wants for his story. And you're going to be just lucky to still be in the program. And I thought, it's funny that now when I hear Ted Coppel's voice, that's where my brain goes. Like what I grew up watching Nightline,

11:19I grew up watching Ted Coppel. Again, I'm an admirer of his work. And he's actually a good dude. And I've said this before in the show, he's way more stylish than you would think he would be in real life based on watching Nightline. He like has very good style, particularly for a guy of his age. And he's also healthy and very robust. He's just like still doing great in the world, still taking up large amounts of time on the program. But now when I hear him saying, oh God knows what? That's more like if Hank Hill was doing it, but you get the idea. Now I just think, oh man, that's the guy who eats up all the time on the TV show I work on. And now he's eating up time on this show. How do you think I labeled that one? Okay. Can I hear the drop again, please? And you can. And using a sentence. Love it or hate it. It appears to be another irreversible step along mankind's journey toward God only knows what. So you retitle it after being sends it to you. I'm pretty sure this came from being.

12:21I don't have 100% on that because often if it's from being, I will put parenthetically bean behind it. But I don't think I've been like actually totally true to that. How do you miss your calling in library sciences? No joke. I feel like I know I should be an archivist. It's archivist. No, I'm at heart. I did part of that for my job for a while. I absolutely archiving old, real to real news coverage from the 1970s, from Kent State. Digitizing it or just labeling it. Digitizing it, rolling it in, trying to preserve the tape because tape that was no one to see these. There was a whole library that they did end up naming me Andrew Walls Memorial Archive. Memorial sheep a little. I know a little bit much at WKSU is very sweet because I developed this whole system of like printing out labels for them. I was making like the jewel case labels just black and white but I was using like the paper cutter. I loved it so much. Like it was sort of one of those things that I was sort of assigned to me, but I sort of assigned it to myself. You ran with it. Yeah, and so I would always like, I'd be at like family because I'm in college

13:22so but I'm driving distance from home. So on like let's say a Thanksgiving, I would drive home from Kent where I had a little apartment, a little tiny little gross studio. But I would do the Thanksgiving thing. But then at a certain point I'd be like, ah, you know what, guys, I gotta go. I gotta go to work. But what work was was me just driving back to my apartment and then walking across the street to the radio station and like nobody, literally nobody is there. And I'm just listening to like literally old promos, live reads, packages, all from real to real tapes and I'm rolling them into a computer, digitizing them knowing that the tape is so old in some cases. If we don't get it in one take, it will be gone forever. Oh, wow. And then I'm arranging it all and I'm making CDs and I'm putting, I'm like doing kind of what I do with my VHS tapes now, which is like I'm trying to research what this would have been in relation to. I'm putting track listings together. This was, you know, I'm in my early 20s. I'm in college and I'm just loving it, Jerry. Would this have been actually literally on Thanksgiving,

14:23the night of Thanksgiving. So you spent the day with the fam and now you're headed back and now it's, it's whatever that is, that Thursday and November and you're at the station all alone. That would be my, I mean, that is some memories I have of this. This was a project that I just basically did whenever I wanted to and I can go over there and do it. And I guess I was getting paid hourly. So it was work. Like I do think that I wasn't, I don't think I was like just doing that for free. I don't know exactly how it worked, but I didn't make that much money and I was in good standing with the newsroom and everything and they, I think they truly appreciated it. And so by the time I left, there was a whole like wall, like a whole CD wall that just had all these meticulously labeled like printed labeled CDs with all this digital, with all this old archive that was digitized. The bummer about it is those CDs are probably now flaking apart. Like I don't know, I mean CDs hopefully have a longer shelf life than some of this tape. But ideally this, this all would have gone on hard drives or something like that because we don't know how long these, you know,

15:25these spindles of DVRs will last into the future and we could risk losing all of this history again. The irony, Andrew, and I just realized it was, at about this time, you or what would you be like a sophomore junior? Yeah, probably that sophomore junior, oh, and to your point, I was doing it all the time but I loved it as an excuse to like kind of say, okay, I'm done with this holiday thing now. I wanna go, I wanna leave family times, love you family, but I wanna go back to my part of the world in our away in Kent where I live by myself, I'm in charge of my thing and also just know that I have a nice cozy like empty radio station to go to that I don't remember how they gave me access as a student but somehow, like I said, I earned a lot of trust around there so I somehow had access. Well, the irony is that at about that time, I was also a kind of a, you know, intern slash work study slash semi-employee but student at the public radio station in Seattle and there may have been nights where we were

16:25both at our respective public radio stations but you were building the Andrew Walsh archive and I was stealing books and possibly CDs from KCMU. There's a reason they couldn't part too. They couldn't play and that is yet to be confirmed, sir. The fact that like KCMU couldn't play AM, the Wilco CD AM for a, well, after a certain point, maybe never again because I boosted that. To be clear, you were not boosting that from there on air library. You were taking fruitly. Oh, you were, I thought you only took things from the free book pile, like, well, that was a key to a W. Oh, the books, Andrew. Are you familiar with their on air library? Wow, that is shocking. I mean, I don't actually know if, let me put it this way. It wasn't from the free bin. It was a little bit more vague than that, but there was two. So you've got, I consider this to be mixed media what I'm talking about here. At KUOW, they did have a big shelf of free books.

17:26They were just, because, you know, every day, 20 books would get nailed to that radio station because there was a couple of local interview shows. And, you know, the hosts would always, like, they would take the books they were going to read for interviews, then they would just take the books that seemed interesting to them. And then after all that, there would be, like, you know, I wish I could find some of these books that my mom has at her house, because they're the kind of books that would be available on the free bin. They were, like, you know, worry your way thin or whatever. And they would just be these, like, crazy books. But what I learned was, even those books, even the books that had been put on the free shelf and the idea there being, like, hey, if somebody wanted to grab a book and take it home with them and read it or whatever, take it on vacation, have fun with it. It wasn't, hey, Luke, come in here under the dark of night. Take most of the hard backs and then take them to half-priced books on Roosevelt and sell them for whatever they'll give you, which is what I was doing. I will say, I will defend your right to do that. Maybe it's because of the culture that I grew up in, but when I worked at radio stations

18:26and both when I was the lowest person on the ladder of, like, kind of responsibility and pay especially, like, we were encouraged to do exactly that. It was like, take these books, like, take them to a use bookstore, get some money for them. They're just sitting here anyway. The adults in the room can buy their own books. You know what I mean? And then when I was of the age that I was making a salary or whatever, I was encouraging the interns to do the same thing. Well, I've been very encouraging over time of people doing it, but nobody encouraged me. I had to teach myself. I had to innovate this. And in fact, I think I would have been in kind of a love trouble. People really think so, huh? Well, I just, because I don't know, just like that wasn't the culture there. It was, I mean, I loved those people. I looked up to them, most of the people that had real jobs there and that were older than me and were mentors to me in a lot of ways, but that wasn't the vibe. I don't remember anyone ever saying like, oh man, you should, dude, you're broke. You have a child, not that that's anyone's fault,

19:28but mine, but like, hey, you know what, you can take these books and you can sell them and you can make some dough off of them. Like, nobody told me that, so I was always thinking like I am being very, very sketchy with this. Meanwhile, yeah, as I got older and worked at radio stations, I'd be like, oh, like to anybody who was, you know, an intern or a, you know, a starting out employee, I was like, oh, hey, you know what, you can do with this? Like I was, you know what, you can do with vinegar, the king of cures, a book that's on my mom's books. Oh, you're just, you know what, you can do with the book, get out of that pit. Did you take photos of your mom's bookshelf? I did, I'm looking at these on Instagram. You know what, you can do with the book, taming your outer child. These are all, these are all books that are on the bookshelves or in the rooms. Wait, that is, taming your outer child, Andrew. That's, wait, hold on, this is a lot, because first of all, we want, wait, do we want an inner child, but we don't want an outer child? Well, why do I want to tame them? Well, I would say that maybe taming your inner child

20:30is something, I don't know, I don't understand, I have more questions and answers about how one is supposed to tame one's outer child. I just thought it was an absolutely ridiculous name for a book taming your outer child. That is interesting. Again, also get out of that pit. Just, and then a picture of a woman smiling, I guess she's gonna help you with that. And then, yeah, vinegar, a beginner's guide to pitfall, the Atari game. Actually, I could have used that about 45 years ago when I was at my friend Gabe's house, and they had pitfall. That was, I've told you the story before, but his mom said that John Cougar Mellon Camp had a nice butt. Oh, yeah. I was scandalized, yeah. I couldn't, this mom's, that mom's even sea butts in that way is. This woman was probably 25. You know what I mean? She seemed, I had two, I had two really good friends, this kid named Aaron, who lived around the corner. This one, we rented our first little, we rented a house in kind of, I think it's called, it's actually by the Pinehurst pub,

21:32if you wanna, like, but more towards Lake Cityway. So imagine Pinehurst pub, but more towards Lake Cityway. Around the corner was this kid Aaron. His mom, his mom's name was Monique. She was a hairstylist. She was, as you would say, a bottle blonde. She had a long blonde hair. She dated a guy who worked at the, I think Ben Bridge jewelry store at the Northgate Mall. She drove what seemed like a, she drove like a, like not a muscle car, but like a kind of a sports car kind of thing. She smoked cigarettes. She was the most glamorous person I'd ever seen in my life. He was also the way that I learned, at least got my first inkling of how babies were made in that he had, his mom had read him a book. And he said, you know where babies come from, I said, yeah, Jesus puts them in the stomach. And he said, well, it's not what I'm hearing. That was, he said, you know, Jesus puts them in the uterus. Jesus puts them in my mommy's boyfriend's private parts. Okay. So then, then that was, that was Aaron. And then down the street with this kid Gabe.

22:33And Gabe came from a more kind of like a, so he had mom and his mom and dad lived at home. And like, I don't know what they did, but they kind of had, it was like there, I remember the kitchen was kind of country kitchen. It was a kind of place, kind of kitchen where there would be maybe a paper towel holder that was also a goose. Yeah, sure. You know, kind of that vibe. And they had MTV and Pitfall. And I just remember her thinking that a John Cougar melon camp had a cute butt. And I just thought this, I can't believe this elderly woman is talking about John Cougar melon camps butt. Yeah, no, probably 25. I'm with you on that. I'm thinking of some moms. I was gonna, there is an Ethiopian restaurant that is in this Pinehurst neighborhood. Not too far from where you're talking. I was gonna see if I could do something where I send you a link to the Ethiopian restaurant and you tell me how close this is to this area. But I'm having a little bit of trouble nailing that down and it's probably not the best radio in the world to be completely honest with you. But it does put me in a mind to have Ethiopian food.

23:33Once or last time you've been to an Ethiopian restaurant. Not in a long, long time. First of all, we don't have a ton here in the area. When I lived in LA much more because you've got like Fairfax and stuff, you've got some really long standing Ethiopian communities and a lot of really great options. And it's also not, I would say of, do we say ethnic food? Of food that is available in American cities but that doesn't have its origins. Well, here's the other thing. Does any food have its origins in America truly? Like what, a turkey sandwich? That was probably from England, right? Like, is there an American food or is every food in America? American food? I sounds Italian to me, but I mean, it's a lot of Italian ingredients, but for some reason I thought it was maybe so. Maybe that is our, and honestly, if we got to have one to hang our hat on, I'll take pizza. But you were just gonna say that it's not something that you're seeking out all that much. Well, not necessarily, but just of the, I've enjoyed it tremendously,

24:34but of the foods, like for me, it's like if I'm going for something that is, again, originally maybe from another part of the world, probably Thai food is gonna be the number one that I go for, probably followed by Indian food, probably followed by, I mean, there's a long list of things, but Ethiopian is just, is not in the top 10 for me, and so I don't think about it. I also don't have go-to's, is what I'm trying to say. I have go-to's with most kinds of food, lots of menu, yeah. Then I like to get, I like to get, you know, I always order this if they have it from this style of restaurant. I don't have that for Ethiopian food. What do you get when you go there? You know, I don't know, I don't go all that often in this place. I did find this incendatune. It's just a little, it's kind of a little hole in the wall place. It's not a fine, you know, it's not like an upper class dining experience or anything like that. It's just, it's very down to earth, but the owner kind of runs the place, and I remember she came out and talked with us. It's very rare that I go, but I realized that I had gone a couple of times in college and liked it, and then just went years and years and years

25:34without having it. I can't remember my full history with it, but a couple of years ago, I got a little gang of friends together. I'm like, you know what? I'm thinking about Ethiopian food. It's been way too long. Let's just get together and go to this place, and so a group of them, and I think that's a good way to do it, maybe. I mean, whatever. And so there was like a group of about eight of us or something, and we went. And anyway, so I'm not saying this to you as a recommendation necessarily if you're not into it. I enjoyed myself. Maybe I'll get that crew and go back, but it did sort of seem like this might be the area where your childhood memories are. Dude, I, the childhood memories, if you went on this street, and I think maybe literally this street, well, first of all, across the street from the Ethiopian restaurant, which now looks like it is maybe, at least when this Google street view is take it, it was in disrepair and maybe slated for demolition, is this building that used to be when I was growing up, it was an IGA. It was a grocery store called IGA. Really? I haven't heard IGA in forever. This is like, you're talking about where the Wahakian restaurant is. That's where the IGA is. If you're looking at it. No, I'm talking about across the street from across the street from the restaurant

26:35that you just linked me to. Yeah, I am seeing it all across the street. There's a building that has the map, boy, this is really getting in the weeds. This is rough. Whenever this was taken in the time stamp of what I'm looking at on Google, or yeah, Google street view. Oh, street view. I see the foreign sign in the parking lot of the thing that used to be the IGA. I think it became the auto repair shop at some point. But if you were to keep going down this northeast 117th street, I'll just say it. If you just kept going towards Lake Cityway, there is a very good chance that you would literally go right past. There's a point at which it starts to go downhill, like literally, actually downhill, not in the neighborhood sense. And there is a very good chance that you would run right past my old house. In fact, I think I might be found. I think I might have found my old street and maybe where when I ran away from home, I stood on the, yeah, the 23rd Avenue. I just found the street that we rented on.

27:37This is, anyway, not interesting for the listeners, I apologize. Actually, that turned out better than I thought. I didn't mean to go on a tangent about Ethiopian food itself. But like, boy, for some reason, you described to this. I'm like, oh, I wonder what that is. Yeah, no, you nailed it. That was very close. Very close. Right, the exact, it's a weird area, because it's like this weird convergence of a whole bunch of different streets that makes a weird, like, little triangle with a parking lot. This is a very strange area. But, boy, we nailed it. I'm kind of proud. I really did. You should be, sir. Your instincts were spot on. I don't think that restaurant was there when I was a kid, but that's definitely where we're talking about the same place. We was hoping for some Razzle Dazzle. Razzle Dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle Dazzle. On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready, go. Everybody, Razzle Dazzle. Hold on, there's one more Google Street map that I want to discuss. I love it. In-depth for this purely audio project that is TBTL.

28:41No, actually what I want to do is thank some Dazzling Dazzling and I want to apologize for the previous 10 minutes of the show that I dragged down into Boring Town. But, you know who forgives us because he's been a friend of the show for so many years is David Zacharis, who's a smitten, of course. In fact, David's pronouns are his, him, and smitten. According to what he feels about exactly in the form. And of course, David's in Burlington, Vermont. They're just here. David's playing in this when we say he's a smitten. Does everybody just know what that means? Because I don't think he's doing any self promotion in this. I could be wrong. He is in a band called The Smittins who've been on TBTL before. There's been on my very important. Exactly. The old Mt. Baker studio. And we even dug up some, I was there that day too. And I took some old photos and he and I were reminiscing about this about a year ago. Isn't the picture of us on TBTL.net? Didn't David draw that? Yes. He's also talking to a visual artist as well, yeah. Yeah. David has done so much for the show and says, long time donor, first time dazzler.

29:43Wow, thanks, David. I don't think so, man. I need closure on something that I've been wondering about for almost 20 years. OK. I clearly remember the first time I heard Luke. He was guest hosting, wait, wait. I was surprised that someone my age was hosting. He told the story of his music teacher playing the song from Transformers on The Trumpet. I've always assumed that that was the touch from the 1986 Transformer movie. But now I'm worried it might have been the TV theme song. If you can clear that up, I'd be very grateful. Well, David, as we say on this show, trust your fears. Because yes, you are correct to be worried that it was the TV show theme, because that's what it was. Trans. Do you know that TV? I don't know that I had brought up the touch here. Do you know this? You got the touch. Oh, of course. Well, but that's this was in the Transformers movie. I didn't know that. I don't think so. That's Boogie Nights. I think that's an original song for Boogie Nights. Oh, definitely an original song. No, no, this is a classic rock song. And yeah, I guess this was in the...

30:49This was in the Transformers movie. I'm seeing a bunch of Transformers. So I'll give it a try to go along with it. Well, that's a nice standbush. Performed by Mark Wahlberg and Paul... That's incredible. See, Andrew, this is why you play the game. This is why you play the game. This is why you play the game. I so like... I grew up right next to this song. Well, in the summer of neighborhood. I, all for all of these years, I assume, because you know, Paul Thomas Anderson is such a kind of, I don't know, you could say sort of completist. Also, you have like this Michael Penn association with a lot of this movie. In fact, Michael Penn is the guy who plays, I think the recording engineer, when they're trying to get their tapes back. Oh, I forgot. The singer Michael Penn, who's Sean Penn's brother and he enjoyed his husband. Oh, okay. And so I always just thought that this song, The Touch, was written for the movie Boogie Nights and was so perfectly of an era, was so perfectly of the kind of song

31:52that like Mark Wahlberg's character would have written that, you know what I mean? It was so perfect that I assumed it couldn't be pre-existing before the movie. I had no idea, I had any association with Transformers. Well, you're blowing my mind. So Michael Penn has a brother named Sean Penn, just like the Sean Penn the actor. The Sean Penn the actor is the brother of Michael Penn. Oh, no, I had no idea. That's blowing my mind. And Michael Penn is, you know, kind of more on the fringes of, he's a big Largo guy, he's a big, he does a lot of, you know, movie stuff and he put out an album, a CD called, Speaking of CDs, he put out a CD called, I think, is it, was it called Half Harvest or No Myth? It was a CD, why is every story about me stealing CDs today? It was a CD by Buddy Peter Williams, a sister, Dahlia had and I borrowed it from her. I don't know if she knows, borrowing it. And I loved it so much and it's Michael Penn and it's Sean Penn's brother. And so I was always, he was always on my radar

32:53and then yeah, he's in that movie. Do you know how much interesting content there is just around the song? I'm on the Wikipedia page, I mean, we haven't even gotten to the Transformers theme song yet. No, I'm dialing that up there. But so we have the touch, Stan Busch song on Wikipedia. It's by Stan Busch, the song features prominently in the 1986 animated film The Transformers, The Movie and Appears on the Soundtrack. But it wasn't written for the album, it sounds like, but this is interesting, it wasn't written for the movie, it sounds like, but it appeared heavily in the movie and was on the soundtrack. But then it says the touch was released as a double A side single. So first of all, back in the day, sometimes it would release a single apparently where neither side was considered the B side. They were both my A side. So it was a double A side single. I don't release B sides, they're all A sides. But it was a single for the movie. So the other side of the record was not another song by Stan Busch. Just take one guess and go as wild

33:53as you possibly can as to who the other artist would be who appears on the Transformers soundtrack who's the other side of this double A side single. Okay, so I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be slow but complicated. So this is related, this is, as part of, this is like the Transformers, this was a two songs that were released. Both sides were considered the A side. Yeah, so they released a whole alley negotiated. They released a whole soundtrack, but then there was like, you know, this is the era of singles, like literally, like really 45s or maybe because singles, although at this point I'm not sure. So there's two songs, one on each side, they're both considered side A. One of them is by this musician, Stan Busch. Stan Busch is the touch. And you'll never get this song, although you might know it, but just name the other artist who also appears on the single. Single, swing big, my friend. I'm trying to think about the, is it a big swing because they're really famous

34:57or they really doesn't make sense that they would be associated with the Transformers or because we talk about them a lot? Is it Scatman? It is not. And I don't want to put you on the spot anymore than that. I just wanted one from you, but that's a big swing. Do you want to keep going? No, okay, yeah. Okay, great. Well, now that I think about it, it is a musician who is associated with certainly our childhood and is mostly appealing to children. Okay. Okay, a singer from our, it's not our childhood, it would not be Raffi. It's not Raffi and it's maybe not quite that childish. It's not quite that childish and it's a musician that certainly it gets plenty of verbal ink spilled about them on this show. Like this is not something. Yeah, this is not like an obscure musician. Although we're not necessarily obsessed with them. Man or woman, man. So I'll start saying him. Okay, and we talk about this person. Is it, it's not Michael Stanley? It's not Michael Stanley.

35:59In a, no, no, I want to give you another clue. And it's, it's a true clue and it's a funny clue, but it's just going to lead you further astray. You could consider him a NEPO baby, I suppose. Oh, okay, but more like his dad is now a NEPO dad. Because this person has seriously clipped his father. Okay, this person has become what, let's see. His father was also a singer though. A musician, actually, I'm double head. It just occurred to me. I'm better fact check this shit. Cause I need to make sure that I'm right about that. I might strike the whole NEPO baby thing if I'm wrong. It's not vanilla ice. It's not vanilla ice. I guess we don't talk about him that much on this show. Who is it? And I'm going to be really, really upset with myself. I think the last clue was total bullshit. No, I think the NEPO baby stuff is total bullshit. But the answer is L weird L, Yankego.

37:01Wow. Dare to be stupid was the other a side of the time to be stupid. Dare to be stupid. Dare to be stupid. Dare to be stupid. And I don't know, was that a parody of another song or was that just one of his silly originals? I think that was one of his silly originals. Okay. Oh my God. By the way, I didn't think his dad, you don't think his dad, I thought his dad was some kind of a polka guy. I thought his dad was Frankie Yankevic, the polka person, but no, it says I don't think that's his dad. I think we looked this up one time. Yeah, although how are the chances that that's not his dad, that Al Yankevic plays polka music, plays the accordion like that and isn't related to Frankie Yankevic, the polka king. No, he's really the Nick Yankevic. Let's see here. And I don't know. The reggae king. I did he work. That's right. That's Jimmy Cliff. Okay. Okay. Anyway, that was a journey. Thank you David. That was wild. Yeah.

38:02Thanks David. Now David, I am going to play. I hope anyway. I haven't previewed this. But this is the song that Mr. Morrison, the band teacher, came in to the classroom and when I was in, it was either 3rd or 4th grade, and played this song. The Transformers, more than meets behind, Autobots quakes their battles to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons. I don't know when the last time I watched this, like showing you actually the intro of that cartoon. When those freaking tapes jump out of sound waves, that's so cool. Laser beak. Oh, so cool. But so that was the song that he played on trumpet and I've told the story a trillion

39:02times. But the thing that was nuts was I joined band because I want to learn how to play that song. It was very hard. I quit band after like three months and then the next year he came back through. He played the song again. I rejoined a band. But this time I had to, my parents would not rent me a trumpet from Canally Keys because I had violated their trust on the first round. And so they, luckily there was a trumpet that was donated to the school that like if you didn't have the money for a trumpet, they would just loan you. And it was called the poor kid trumpet. And I still did not learn how to play the Transformers theme song I'd quit after another two months. What a recruiting tool. My God. Good. Mr. More very smart, right? At least certainly for a Luke Burbank of the era, like that was the best song he could have possibly played. It's like trumpet recidivism. Yes. Um, okay. On a more serious note, we're back to David's dazzling donor message, David. You give so much to the show, not just financially, not just creatively, but um, also from just a content kind of jumping off point. That was a really fun little adventure there.

40:04It's as good as me, Google street viewing my old neighborhood. On a more serious note, support your local artists and arts organizations. Go to shows by work, donate, volunteer, share now more than ever. We need the arts and the artists who help us imagine, connect, and descent. I serve on the board of Burlington City Arts, and I see every day how much local support matters culture survives when communities show up. Well said, David. It's really, really true of all of the, I mean, there are just so many. Truly awful things that are going on right now, nationally in this country and internationally, and then so many downstream effects. And one of the ones that I think about maybe because of my live wire job is like the fact that it is, it's never been easy, but it's even harder for folks that make art to have any sort of financial reward from that to make a living as an artist, a CPB going away, which I know is more broadcast related, but a million different grants. It would be such a shame if we had like a 10 to 20 year period of like people not being able

41:08to make art and then, you know, we just have that moving through the pipeline, you know what I mean? Of just like this, of this clear cut, if you will, of creativity that just didn't exist. So definitely, David, that's a really good reminder. David says, also, can Andrew send Luke the daily donor and dazzling donor song for when he has to host solo? Well, this is a good test. I will be out tomorrow and I did send those to you. So hopefully we'll be able to use those. David, you don't like me playing the Transformers theme song? Yeah, I feel like you always find some interesting. I don't even know what I play. I always find something hilarious, not hilarious to do. Yeah, exactly. David, thank you though for all the support. We really do appreciate you and yeah, thanks again. Maestro, I wanted to call up a scat man, John Scott land. I knew I didn't have time. So I appreciate that you went for it. No, no, I appreciate that you want to say the saddest word ever, Maestro.

42:13On your mind, get set, get set. Not a sad word. I just said in a sad, yeah, look who it is. It's our pal, Cinder Conlin in Traverse City, Michigan. We were almost Traverse City residents together, Cinder. Is that where interlocking? It was right. Yeah, that was the city that's closest to interlocking, indeed. This is incredible. I don't want to skip ahead. Let's just read, I'll read Cinder's message, but I'm already seeing some visuals that are really true. Something truly something. Cinder says, oh, I like co-brows. I typed this message while listening to yesterday's show. In which the Olympics and Genevieve's hatred thereof were discussed. I have to admit, despite the corruption of the IOC, I still love the games. I really enjoy watching the youth of the world excel at sports ball, but I digress. Here's what I'll say, Cinder. I feel like we, as a show, at least a little bit. We kind of came around on the winter Olympics, at least the Alissa Lou.

43:13That's exactly who I was trying to say. Element of it. Yeah, it's just joyful. We were very, although, dude. I saw, like, you know, I got a little teary talking about her because of the back and forth with her father and how her father probably thought he was doing the right thing for his daughter, but was overbearing and was controlling to the point where she quit ice skating and then she came back and then, you know, he was at the Olympics and cheering for her even though she had set up some boundaries and stuff. And I thought that was such a beautiful story and then I heard her being interviewed a couple of weeks later. And so I was like, what did your dad think about the whole thing when you were, when she goes, or what did your dad think about when you said you wanted to come back? She goes, I didn't care what he thought. He wasn't my boss anymore. He didn't really. I'm like, it wasn't like she was like mad at him or estranged from him because he was at the Olympics, but it was less of a sentimental. I had kind of written this probably out of just dad, you know, dadness out of kind of like just wanting the story to be a certain way.

44:14She seemed to be more, again, not resentful, but just kind of more matter of fact about this. Yeah. Yeah, a little bit or just not like, let me tell you this, she wasn't crying about her dad clapping at the Olympics the way I was. You know what's interesting is you mentioned you're like, of course you remember me getting teared up. I did not remember you getting teared up for whatever that's worth. I think in moments you and I are both guys who close down like the cryer. I'm not embarrassed about the idea that I get emotional sometimes. I mean, it just happens and I don't there should be anything embarrassing about that yet. I do hate doing it in front of people and I hate doing it in front of a microphone. So you can remember way more, I think, your moments of maybe getting a little bit choked up. It does for whatever it's worth. It doesn't live. I don't think as much in the minds of others around you. I think you're absolutely right. But it's funny that there is that element that you're talking about, which is that I can, you know, remember pretty specifically probably the last five times that I got choked up, even though half the time I probably went right past people. Well, once was talking about the Transformers, just a moment and also to find out, well, it was when I found out that Michael Penn didn't write, you got the touch.

45:17And then Sean Penn and Michael Penn are brothers. Now that one, I got a high fatter. Now I'm sure you're right. In fact, the more I say it, the more I'm like, shit, I'll bet you you've told me that before. And I just got Michael Penn as a critically acclaimed singer, songwriter and a film composer, best known for his 1989 hit No Myth. He's the eldest brother of Oscar-winning actor Sean Penn and the late actor Chris Penn. And you just mentioned this, but Michael Penn is sort of the collaborator with Amy Mann and a lot of things. Yeah. I think they might be. And of course, Amy Mann was in a PT Anderson movie. She was in. Yeah. Oh, wait, wait. Hold on. Well, she did the soundtrack for Magnolia. Yeah. That's right. I'm thinking of Lebowski. She was in Lebowski, which is not Anderson. But yeah. Okay. All right. Let's see where we were talking about and thanking our friend Cinder. And I was saying to Cinder that even though you couldn't have known it at the time when you were writing the dazzling donor message, we did kind of, we got more into the Olympics than usual in the show. And that was because of you, Cinder, even though I have not read this message until three

46:19seconds ago. Okay. Cinder says, I'm grateful for a lot of a 10 related things this year, not the least of which is the fact that y'all have made me a Seahawks fan, whoa, in Michigan of all places because the Lions are, you know, at least at these days, and a likable team. I wish. Indeed. Whatever. I'm not going to get into politics. The bumms me out that I'm on Ross St. Brown is a Trumpi guy. I don't like that. Oh, he is. He did it. Oh, I didn't know that. I know. I love him and his brother are fascinating to me. They like to be German because their mother is German. His brother is a crisp pen, Russian power. That you know, the, the St. Brown brothers, their dad was a very, very successful bodybuilder and an athlete and, but also a very, very strict father. Their mother is German and they would go to Germany every summer with their mom and they would visit with their maternal side of the family. So they speak fluent German and like, I'm on Ross St. Brown.

47:19Their names are, you know, like I'm on rots, like a very, you know, because their dad is black. It's like a very kind of like, there's a lot of sort of history and story behind, behind their names. And, and I'm on Ross St. Brown was really under, I think kind of appreciated coming out of college and he just is such a unbelievably disciplined and hardworking and kind of intelligent football player that I just like, I loved seeing him succeed. And then one time he does a trump dance on the side of the, like, come on dude. But we're glad to have Cinder on the old Seahawks team in a football season where my beloved Lions crashed and burned. It was wonderful having a team to cheer for in the superb owl, go K9. Well here's what I'll do, Cinder. I'll root for the lion. If the Seahawks get eliminated next year and the Lions are still playing out, absolutely root for the Lions. You know that we stand the Lions around here and particularly their head coach. We love him. Can I just say that? I'm on Ross St. Brown. I just had to do a little Google just to see like what was up with this.

48:21I didn't know anything about his family. I just knew of him as a name, but I guess he did. So I guess he did that dance when Trump was in the stadium. And then he did that dance and it pissed some people off. And then he apologized for it. He's like, oh, I didn't do it. So I don't think that he's like deep in the, like, he's not like what's that terrible mag a guy who was like, yeah, like, boasa wearing the hat and like, and a photo bombing people's interviews. That's good. Like, I like him. I really want, I want any way to, I need to find my way back to I'm on Ross St. Brown. Interesting. I appreciate you doing that. If any president was at the game, I would have danced. So anyway, I'm not, we can all have our feelings about where we draw our lines around that kind of stuff. I wouldn't, you wouldn't see me doing the Trump dance, obviously. But anyway, it's not like it's part of a broader philosophy of that's actually good here. I just need to be like, hey, I said, you didn't have fun out there. This is the response to it. Sender says, I've attached a couple of photos.

49:21You can see my new-ish shelf of TBTL memorabilia as you can see. I've framed the greatest hits album, and I've hung it proudly for all to see Andrew. That's really great. When you and John and I were talking about the album, literally one of us, I can't remember who, I seriously can't remember, was like, what would be so fun about this would be because albums are, you know, whether or not you play the, you put the vinyl down and play it, they are sort of an objective art, if you will. And it would be cool if someone framed this or displayed it as art. And this is actually happening at Sender's house. Yeah, I love it. I have a record that is framed hanging on the wall outside of my studio, too. I think it's one that just says, I don't know, it's just some, some 1980s record. You got the touch. It's cool. It is from the 80s. It's just like, it's a record that says like, all beats, no rap or something like that. It's just for, it's a bunch of break beats, but it's from like 1986. It's actually like a, like a break beat record that's kind of cool looking. So I have that framed.

50:22I love a good framed record. And this is the first time I see an hours framed and it looks pretty handsome. I also see the bingo card. I forgot about the bingo card. Yeah. This is impressive. Sender has a whole, it's like a museum of, of, of, of thank you gifts from over the years. Let's see. As you can see, I framed the greatest hits album and I have hung it proudly for all to see the fact that an air supply song pops into my head every time I look at it as a small price to pay for having such a stylish wall covering. Good looking out. I mean, I must have mentioned that casually that we did kind of model this on an air supply thing. But I wonder if Sender is just that familiar with air supply. Yeah. Who was, oh, well, is breakfast with Bob, who definitely immediately recognized it as an air supply record. Yeah. Um, let's see here, uh, don't worry. This is not some sort of twisted shrine. And I do not use Bobo and Johnny as voodoo dolls or do I, oh yeah, there's the Bobo, you know what? Sender, uh, you, you donated, these are now your objects to do with whatever you see fit.

51:26You can make them kiss if you want to. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't be mad. No. Um, thank you as ever to you guys for brightening my day five times a week into the tens for being such an awesome group of pod cart pals. Here's to another year of fun and tenship power out our friend Sender in Traverse City Michigan. Thank you so much. Did we use that before tenship? No. I don't think so. That's really nice. Maybe that can be a theme. I'm actually taking this photo and, uh, I'm going to drag this over and put on the desktop and I'm going to send it to Becca and say in the Sally field voice, they like us. They really, really like us people, people like us. People have a setup like this in their home in Traverse City, Michigan and that is extremely. That's a big honor. Thank you, Sender. Appreciate you. Here I go once again with the e-mail every week. I hope that it's from a theme man. Oh man, not from a theme man.

52:28This is actually off of the third A side of the transformer. That's right. That's right. It was the rare album that had three sides and there were all A's. There were no B's. That was off of back to black, I want to say. I had that record. Did you have or was thunder struck off of the razor's edge? I know that I had both of those on, they were on A and B sides of a dubbed cassette I had and I would leaf below the drive was afraid of a CDC. I thought they were, well, I mean, the irony is like it is the catchiest. It is the catchiest like most foot tapping, like kind of, I don't know if I would say life affirming, but just like it's good pop music essentially. But I grew up being like it's Satan music. I don't think it's Satan music. It's okay. It all starts to vary. I mean, listen, I'm not trying to go after ACD fans. It's not misogynistic. It's not, yeah, it also is very one note. Like you don't need, like I was saying I had two notes. Man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man.

53:30Demonstriably two notes. But also like just, you hear one song and then you're like, okay, the next song and then you don't need what I had, which was like, what, I guess two, nine, I was a 90 minute, 120 minute tape of it. And I will say this and I'm not trying to hate people who like ACDC or ACDC itself. Like I went through a huge ACDC phase. There's still room in my heart for it. I will say this. Yeah, I will say this. If you are considering doing an ACDC song at karaoke, don't. Because I know what you're going to do. I know you're a guy and I know you want to scream and I know that you want to take out like some of the frustrations of the day into this song. But get a pillow. Scream into the pillow. Are you saying it's not like it's about to rock? For those about to rock, we're going outside for a cigarette break like do this song because that's about to rock. You consider it. I actually think for those about to rock, we salute you as one of the best names of

54:31a rock and roll record ever. I don't know. Is that ACDC? Yes. I don't even know which era it was. I'm guessing it was the first singer. I'm going to lose the thread on this whole thing. But there is something when I hear that album title, I'm like, hell yeah. And I'm not even a rock and roll guy. It is a solid name for an album. The other thing about that ACDC is, and maybe this is just my advancing age, but man, you're going to really, you're going to, your vocal cords are going to need a few days to recover from that. If you really commit, if you're a guy and you're trying to sing, it won't go. Yeah. Just that. Oh, you're done. You're done. Look at that. He's grabbing his Coke zero. I got my Dr. Pepper zero sugar, zero sugar, Dr. Pepper. Seriously, Andrew, trying to do three words of ACDC, just did that to me. Can you imagine? You had to see the doctor. I did. It was Dr. Feel Good. It's Dr. Pepper. All right. Well, the reason we heard that music was because we're, we are bringing back a just such

55:34a long standing, not just popular, but I would say celebrated segment on the show called Seminole. Seminole called email. I don't mean in a gross way. I mean, it's a part of the, or early life of the show. I don't even know it. I don't know what that would mean in the gross way. It doesn't really matter. But I want to play for you several voice mouse. I don't know if we have time for several because I'll be honest with you. This first one is very long, but there's a reason I'm starting with it because it's also very good. Okay. And this comes from listener Patrick. And it's a real stemwinder here, Luke. Okay. I got it down to four minutes. This is from listener Patrick and it all started with our conversation about house burping, which was a brief conversation, but it was really interesting and it's really stuck in my head, which is in some European countries, even in the middle of winter, even in the winteriest of those countries, there will be a time once a day where people will go through and open up all the windows or a bunch of windows in their house just to let the air in and to let the stale air out. And I love it. I think I've been doing that sort of low key my entire adult life without really putting a word to it and maybe not as being as deliberate about it, but that led to this story from

56:36listener Patrick. Oh, holy, holy, Luke and Andrew. I was just listening to the podcast you guys were talking about, house burping. When I was in college, I studied abroad in Moscow. This was in the early 2000s, so it was before the days when Putin really had, you know, a strangled hold on the country and you could go and visit, not sort of thing. When we were there, they don't have a dormitory at the university that they would hook you up with a host family. And I got paired up with this very elderly woman, S. E. M. Molesna. She's probably passed by now, poor one out, but she lived in this apartment and she got this apartment with her husband back in the fifties, back in the final days of Stalin, and they were really lucky to get this apartment.

57:37And he was in the military and he had been killed in Afghanistan, so she lived all alone. So to make some extra money, she went down to the bedroom in the apartment. It was a one bedroom place. And then she kind of dressed up the living room as a bedroom for her. Right about the beginning of November, she took a butter knife and she used it to stuff wool into the cracks all around the window and then she seal off all the windows in the apartment with masking tape. And the following day, I went out in the evening with some of my compatriots from the university and we were out drinking. I went into the bedroom and I got in dressed and it was so weltering and duffy and just

58:39hot. I mean, after just one day of the windows being sealed closed. And so I closed the bedroom door and I tore off all the masking tape and I threw open the window and this big gust of wind just came right in and the wall that had been in the cracks of the windows which was flowing around the room. But it felt so good. And I got in bed and I pulled the covers up to my chin and I fell asleep and I was awoken at about six in the morning because S.E. Amal'sna came, she had felt the cold under the door, you know, kind of walking into the rest of the apartment and she came in and it had been snowing. So there was all this snow that had piled up, there were no screams, right, it was just

59:42an open window so all the snow had piled up on the sill and on the floor and on the chair next to the window and I jumped out of bed and I also closed the window and we cleaned everything up and man, I got the worst tongue lashing and she was just so much and I felt terrible. I heard elderly Russian women are generally pretty chill. Yes. So you walked the window again and the rest of the time that I was there, those windows did not open up again and I felt so bad and I couldn't stop apologizing but it just felt so good to get that fresh air in the morning. That was the last fresh air that that apartment had for the rest of my stay. Anyway, that's it. Power out. Have a great one, guys. Yes, I was going to say, can you imagine being yelled at by an elderly Russian widow in

1:00:45her own space because you have crossed a line. That is something that I hope I never have to experience. That sounds like a sleep demon, a sleep paralysis demon situation where you wake up and there's an elderly Russian widow perched at the end of the bed and you can't physically move and she's yelling at you. I'm also, and this is a bit of a leap, but if I'm going to go with some of the stereotypes and some of the thoughts I have about the general layout of things in Soviet Russia, as has been said, which is I'm guessing this was a larger building that probably had multiple units in it and I wonder if it was the kind of thing where you couldn't really control the heat, specific to your unit or you had limited control. And so I can totally relate also to Patrick being like, dude, if you block up all of the any kind of possible ventilation, that heat coming through the radiators or the whatever, the way that the building was heated, just building up and building up and building up. This, I live a mini version of this, oftentimes here in my own house, there isn't, as far

1:01:49as I'm aware, an older Russian woman living in the home environment with me, but sometimes particularly in the winter, because my house, as I talked about, in the winter time I had a little bit of trouble dialing in all of the temperature stuff because I'm still dealing with some broken heating parts, but so I will sometimes get in like, I'll get in bed and it'll be cold in my bedroom, so I have this space heater that I'll turn on and maybe I'll even have my socks on. I don't usually like, I don't like to sleep all night with my socks on, do you sleep with socks on? No. Because if your feet are too warm in the middle of the night, it's like, you know, that's a very, for me anyway, a very uncomfortable feeling. So, but sometimes if it was cold, this is particularly a few months ago, I would like turn on the little, you know, space heater, I'd get in bed, it'd be a little chivalry, I'd kind of get, you know, all cozy and I'd fall asleep and then I would wake up at like two or three as if there were like, as if I was on the surface of the sun and I'm like ripping the socks off and I'm pulling the covers off and I'm getting up, I'm turning the heat

1:02:51off, but like, there's not, because the house is actually very well insulated, I had it all spray foam, which has a high R factor. So once the heat's in the room, it's like too much, it's probably what Patrick was experiencing, but then I'll just like, I have a window right kind of by the night stand, it's on a crank, it's like a casement window and like, and open the end of the cold air, we'll just like flood in and it is, it's almost worth the discomfort of the waking up in like basically in a sauna because when that cold outside air comes in and hits you, it is just the best feeling. And I can sort of like, imagine every part of this journey for Patrick. I have so much to say, first of all, I used to live in this apartment that had, it was probably the most humble of my apartments that I lived in, I liked it because I finally got me into the actual, the actual core of the city of Concord, New Hampshire, which is just like a small town, but when I first moved there, I was living like outside Concord in some sort of like a more modern, but again, humble in its own way kind of, it was like,

1:03:55it wasn't gross in any way, but it was a very boring ass apartment I lived in. I really wanted to move closer to the radio station, closer to downtown Concord, which I did, but the first place I rented was a real style and in a lot of different ways that I will refrain from going down memory lane too much here. But the one thing I will tell you, and I'm sure I've said this before, was we, I did not have the ability to control the heat in the radiators. I think it was radiators, I think it was old school metal radiators, like the kind that would like kind of get hot. Yeah, exactly like, you know, be it like, would you a piece of furniture in there? Would you dry your stockings on them after a long day at the office? Yes, and a little lady would come out and sing to me about heaven. That's for the eraser head fans and the audience, but anyway, but anyway, nobody in this unit or none of the none of the units in this apartment building and let's say they were I think maybe four of them could control their own heat. They were all on the same system. Now the actual thermostat was set by the landlords and then put behind a little lock box,

1:05:02but that thermostat happened to live in my apartment. Oh, wow. So if I were to open up windows, it would get cold and then everybody else's apartment would get hot or like when Genevieve came over to make a Christmas duck on Christmas day one year, others complained about it getting really cold in their apartments because we were creating so much heat from the oven in our apartment that it affected everybody else's. It's basically shut off the heat for everybody else. But I did you were the front part of the human heat appeared. That's exactly how I was going to put it, but I wasn't sure if you'd follow, but what I did, I want everyone to know that Andrew did love that joke, but he was having a coffee. I was having a bit of a coffee. He was. I saw his eyes, the recognition of true greatness. Yes. Exactly. Actually, I appreciate you throwing that in there. I know that you threw that in there because you can tell I needed to cough for a moment. But the truth of the story is I wanted some sort of control. I resented this whole thing and so I had a bag of peas, my friend that I kept in the freezer.

1:06:03Wow. And if I was feeling cold, I would take those peas out of the freezer. Now these were not the lines away. They were dedicated heater peas or thermostat peas. I did not eat them. I wasn't like, they were like, they were basically like kind of getting frozen and unfrozen and re-frozen everything. So they were not for consumption at this point, but I would take that bag of peas and I would set it on top of the plastic box that locked to the thermostat in because if you think about, you know, cool temperature is sort of fall, right? Fall down. Heat rises. So I would set that on top and it would make thermostat think it was colder in the room. And that would be how I could turn up the heat, both in my apartment and my neighbors apartments. That's incredible. What a genius. Yeah. Kind of, you know, I don't know, idea. I don't know if I would have thought to do that. That's what also, that just reminds me of, I didn't live in any apartments, maybe that were that extreme, but just like the craziness of when you're young and you're just, you know, you got to live somewhere and just like the weirdness of those kinds of apartments.

1:07:03Yeah. Is it the case that one of the apartments is the control for all of the, yeah, no, just bad idea. It was gross in a lot of different ways, but then also because I'm a goddamn weirdo, I leaned into it. It had like wood paneling, not even like this wood paneling that I have now, but like the more traditional like VFW hall, like yeah, more vertical fake wood paneling. And then what I started and I had like old man furniture that I was just inheriting from like people. So I had like an oversized like stuffed chair or like an easy chair or something that an grumpy old man probably used to store his farts in. And then I, and so I had those anyway and then I started what I was at like thrift stores or flea markets with Genevieve. I started picking up those like balsa wood framed fake oil paintings of kids playing around water wheels and rivers and I started hanging those on the wood paneling and Genevieve says this is not a good look. Like I remember being like this is getting capital C creepy in here and so eventually I

1:08:08didn't live together at this time. No, but we were in a relationship and somehow we always, always, and somehow we survived that period. But anyway, okay. Yeah, that could have been, I could have seen that being some like it's good that you, you were already dating when you moved to Concord, right? Yes, we started dating our job. Well, we started dating, we started officially dating basically the day before I started work. So I had, I had met Genevieve on a trip to Boston, maybe four months earlier or something like that. We stayed in touch. We knew that we had a lot of love for each other. I don't know if we were using the word love at that point, but we were clearly into each other. And then we had our first date when I moved to New Hampshire, like basically my second day there. And then I think I started, I think it's good that she already had a sense of who you are and who in the world before she came over to your apartment. Like that's so you started dating in Concord. You just like met randomly and then you should. Let me show you some of my sad clown art collection.

1:09:09That's what it was. Exactly. I put, I have a feeling, I put a creaking sound on the door just to make it. I'd be like, come in. Errgh. Like the audio file. Yes, I did have like a velvet Elvis too. I think something like that because I mean, there is also that thing where it's like when and you're young and you just don't have any money, you're like, well, it's never gonna be fancy in here. So why would I not lean into kitsch a little bit, and stuff, and so like I definitely had like a, yeah, I had some kind of a velvice Elvis that was like, you know, tacked up and stuff like that was definitely a theme in my early apartments as well. So I'm going to, I have a bunch of voicemails here and I know we can't get through a lot of them. And so I'm sort of making some editorial decisions here on the fly. Here's a little bit of a shorter one. This is about words. What is the word I'm looking for, Luke, ironically, that is it etymology of words? Oh, yeah. Origin of words. Yeah. This is from our friend Jamie.

1:10:10And I'm going to pause it in Mississippi. No, this is from Jamie in Maryland, I believe. Oh. And I'm going to pause it for some clarification, probably halfway through. Hello, fellas. This is listener Jamie from Columbia, Maryland. And I was listening to the day after the Super Bowl show and it says nothing's just a Super Bowl. So just ignore that part. But I was listening and I heard Andrew say, how much he loves the term kitty corner. And I remember now, this is where I want to pause and say, I don't remember saying that. I do love the word kitty corner. I will say that, I mean, I think I do. I definitely like it. I love the word catty wampus. And I want to use it more than I have the opportunity to. But kitty corner is up there as well. At first, I was wondering if we were confusing catty wampus with kitty corner. But I must have shown some appreciation for kitty corner. I must say loves the term kitty corner. And I remember growing up in Southern Missouri

1:11:10and hearing the word a catty corner. And that's what we always call it, catty corner. And then I moved to Chicago and people said kitty corner. And I was like, what is wrong with you people? Why are you saying kitty corner? It's catty corner. So then, as a person who likes words, I decided to do a little research. And turns out, the real word is catty corner, C-A-T-E-R, C-O-R-N-E-R. And so it became catty corner. And then from there, it became kitty corner. But the real word is catty corner. And it means diagonal. So, and more you know, now we're out. That's great. Catty cornered. So catty cornered. Andrew, I am so, so glad that Jamie called and left that voicemail and that you played it. Because the term kitty corner has always, I wouldn't say weirded me out. But I've always thought, how is that what we're calling that? When something is diagonal, what? Like that's way too cutesy for a description that, you know,

1:12:11like here in the war and they're like, which way is the enemy coming from? Catty corner. Like it's like, it's an important factual statement of like it's diagonal. But the fact that it was catter corner and that became catty corner became kitty corner, that is all. I am so, I weep for the summer barbecues this year that I'm at and the people are gonna have to hear about that. Because I am not gonna stop telling people about the origins of kitty corner. But does that also, and this is one of the reasons I wanted to interject there, because I love the word catty wampus, which is different, right? Like kitty corner or catter corner means basically, like you said, it's not directly across the street. It would be kitty corner, it'd be like the opposite corner. If you're walking diagonally across an intersection that would be kitty corner. Catty wampus means, I think, and I'm gonna look it up here in a second or you can, but that something is not in place properly, right? Like something is like, yeah, so. But if catter corner, don't you feel like there must be some connection then between catter corner and catty wampus? It would stand to reason.

1:13:11I mean, catty wampus is an example of a grand 19th century American slang. Let's see here, sorry. What is it slang for? It basically, the way you described it, something is crooked, a skewer out of line. So that's, now that also, I'm gonna, is this the part of the show where I just switch into etymology mode all on my own, which is if we think that catter corner is diagonal, and if we think that catty wampus is something is crooked or a skew, it could sort of be diagonal, right? Yeah, that's what I'm sort of thinking. Like it sort of seems like they're in the, both the same family of definition as well as, words, what about the definition of nitty hammer or bum fuzzle or flammadittle? Oh my God, I mean, if people also ask, give us the definitions of those. Okay, by the way, I never answered the question of what you had titled the audio drop. I got you on the, I know, I just thought that was uninteresting, so I let it go. I was very interested in it. I have it in front of me if you wanted to.

1:14:12Okay, we're gonna come back to that in a minute. Okay, and nitty hammer, I bet you you can guess a little bit. Just from the first floor. No, not really. A nitty hammer. I'll tell you what I'm picturing, and I know it's gonna be wrong. It's way too literal is I'm picturing the little hammer a doctor uses to check your reflexes. Ooh, that'd be a great name for that. It's a noun for a fool or a simple to name nitty. Nitty is usually kind of, yeah, somebody, a simple person. How about flibber jibbit or flibber jibbit? Oh my gosh, that's from one of our drops. Isn't, doesn't 80 miles say that in like one of those stepbrother, not stepbrother, whatever the movie is where he's talking about a wing's man. Talk about a wing's man. Yeah, it was Mike Sniffer Pippitz. Oh, that's not, who's there? Mike, how many Mike Sniffer Pippitz do you know? I'm freezing out here. That's right, it is that same movie, and it is 80 miles. Am I not 80 miles? It is 80 miles, okay, yeah. No, you're absolutely. Who's the AD who is on Saturday Night Live? AD Bryant. AD Bryant, okay, yeah.

1:15:13No, you had the right AD. Okay, great. But Sniffer Pippitz, not flibber jibbit, but they are almost the same word, dude. Okay, I don't, a flibber jibbit is maybe it's just a, it's just a guess an insult. It's considered derogatory. Okay. And then let's see, one last, what, okay, bum fuzzle. What's the definition of bum fuzzle? I feel like that is a burden by guess. To do something. Oh, really? Okay, then never mind what I was going to say. To bum fuzzle, you're confusing somebody. Yes. Really? Absolutely. Too confused or fluster? Well, you tried to bum fuzzle me, but I didn't work. I'm fuzzled you. These are getting increasingly more sexual, throttle bottom. Oh, no, I'm a throttle top. Yeah. It's an innocuously inept and futile person is a throttle bottom. Interesting. Innocuously inept, though. So like, you know, like, not, not in a way that's, you know, you, you're not like, they didn't give you the nuclear codes and now you accidentally launched an attack. It's a, it's kind of, you know, it's innocuously futile and futile.

1:16:15Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's, that's a lot of fun. I don't know. What do you want to do here? Do you want to hear another story? Let's do one more. Okay. One more. Okay. We've promised a frenzy. Okay. Yeah. We've barely gotten into a fop doodle. Two. Two frenzy does not make. Thank you. I am going to play, well, I'm going to play this one. This is from somebody who did not leave their name and I think it's self-explanatory. Hey, look at Andrew. I am doing my own chat GTP on our superior verbal. The question is, what is a marsupial verbal and what does it have to do with podcasts? And here's the answer. It's a bit of podcast nerd slang. And it's mostly a joke. Marsupial Gurgle quote is a playful term people used to describe very specific vocal tick, most famously associated with Roman Mars, the host of 99% invisible.

1:17:20Absolutely not. He has a distinctive way of ending phrases with a soft, resonant, slightly gravel sound in his throat. That's quite vocal fried, not quite a sigh, more like a gentle verbal at the back of the mouth. So why the name, Mars, Roman Marsupial makes it sound like a species and keeps the joke going, durable, the actual sound people are poking fun at. I think they made that up. It's not true. Wow. Through you, chat GTP long live TV T L. Here's to hand made podcast. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. You check us for a couple of bump fiddlers. If the AI just sometimes said, I don't know the answer to that one. I would have such fewer problems with chat GPT.

1:18:22It's just that. It's just like, I don't know what it's going to do with podcasting. It clearly knew it had something to do with podcasting. And then it said, well, Roman Mars, Marsupial, like, but it just says it, like, it's fact. It's so like that's actually the most upsetting, like, I don't, it's not a hallucination as much as it's just like what we call an uneducated guess or whatever, like, that's the most upsetting one I've ever heard. The reason is because it took something that is legitimately a TBTL in joke and a whole part of the lexicon of TBTL. And then attributed it to a much more popular podcast. Yeah, right. Yeah. You know, I mean, like, that's the thing you, you stole, it's like, there's no what David did with Bathsheba in the Bible, you know, he, he coveted her. He was on his rooftop. And he had everything. He was King David. And he looked over and he saw this, this beautiful woman. And he, he coveted her and, and, and wanted her. And so then he sent her husband to the front line. Oh, she was married.

1:19:22She was. And he sent her husband to the front lines. We would be killed. And then I believe, I forget which prophet it was, if it was like a Lysha maybe came or Elijah or somebody came to him and told him a story about somebody in his land. There was a shepherd with a huge flock of sheep. And he coveted his, you know, his neighbor, his fellow, you know, shepherd had maybe like a small amount of sheep. And he went and he stole those small sheep or that one sheep, even though he had many. And David was like, find this man. I will kill him. And it's like, it's you, bra. Anyway, that's a, that's a really grandiose way to say, I don't like it when AI is giving our credit for our things to Roman Mars. Roman Mars is doing fine in beautiful downtown Oakland, which is how he always describes the offices of 99% of his, a show that I love by the, I used to listen to that one as an L.A. But it's been so long. I need to get back into that. By the way, have you been watching a David King of Israel, a four part docu drama on Fox nation?

1:20:23Exactly. Which is aminent. Oh, that's right. It was Shazam. I did that. I come up on the show. I saw somebody on TikTok, a young person, a young woman, just doing, it didn't quite work for it. I should have sent it to you just anyway, but she was just like, this is like everything I'm seeing watching the WBC. Yes. It was her like, her doing an impression of like David, though, you know, just like all these weird, not even, these are not even, we talked about it already, but they're not even ready to be on regular Fox, which is really saying something. You know what I mean? They're like on some, on their like the Fox Ocho, they're on like the, a platform of Fox where they're doing Bible tosses on Fox Ocho. Yeah. Was it the Ocho, the, yeah, when they did like the silly sports and everything? Yeah. Was it based on a movie? Was that based on one of those silly sports movies? There was a fake thing called ESPN Ocho and then ESPN decided once a year, they'll do a week of ESPN Ocho. That might have been, was that Dodge ball? Was that on the Yocho? I feel like you see their Dodge ball or base kit ball or one of those, one of those shows

1:21:25from that era that I did not ever watch. I don't know. Yeah. Are you sure it wasn't flibberjibbit? I guess I may have to beat so much. Foptoodle. Was it, I could do this for hours. I've got a lot of weird words here, Andrew, but I'm Foptoodle forever. Yep. But we probably shouldn't. The listeners have places to be as do we. So that's going to do it for today's episode of Buhut, guess what? Oh, hey, one quick thing. I know we didn't do Blurstays today because of some recording stuff, but I know you wanted to wish a little of Blurstays to our friend Barry's husband, Sam. That's right. I call him Broadcast Sam. And I wanted to also happy Blurstays Sam. I also, I'm sorry, but I just have to do it. My brother, DFTB, is 30 years old. So happy Blurstays, David. Sam. And so, yeah, happy birthday to both of them. We are going to do Blurstays next week. So if you send them in, I promise we will get to them and we will give them all of the love and care and attention that they deserve. So anyway, we'll be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio in the meantime.

1:22:26Have a great Thursday. Take care. Take care. Go Mariners. Go indeed. Go indeed. And please remember, no mountain to tall. And good luck to all. Now we're out.