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#468 Ani Manian - "Paid to Exist"

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#468 Ani Manian - "Paid to Exist"

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Welcome to today's podcast. We have Any Monty and on the podcast for the first time. This will be the first of multiples. I'm super stoked to have this guy on we were introduced via one of my students James Thompson and he let me know another friend who's been on the podcast Mike Selemi has been working with him for years. And that this guy really has a unique way of getting people to become their best self with business. You know, I tried to pride myself on getting people to become their best self through health and through relationships and connection. And one of the things I've always left off the table and that's, you know, likely because I don't have mastery in it is the business side of things, the financial side of things. And on his approach to it is remarkable. I mean, you'll find in this podcast the way he thinks the way he sees the world. He has a deep spiritual connection and incredible way to read people and he does on the podcast. I mean, it was one of my favorite podcasts we've done all year. Share it with friends, you know, support our sponsor brain supreme and then of course, check out the kingdom within all the and the show notes without further ado, my brother.

And I'm going to say, honey, honey, what's your last name? Manion. Manion. I like that. I was like, I got an it was again. M a n I a n. Where's your, where your, uh, what's your ethnicity? How do you even say that properly? All those PC shit changes all the time? Let's not do any PC shit today. So allergic to PC shit. Yeah, but they're for the first 17 years of my life. 17 years. That's right. Northern Southern Northern in the capital. You don't. One of my, um, One of my best friends and long, longest clients was his parents were from Southern India. Nice. I grew up in the Bay Area and went to a Mount of Estai school in Cupertino where Apple computers from 70% Asians. Wow. When I was there now it's 80% Asians, but that's only because the massive influx of people from India. Wow. Right. So like before it was like when I say 70% Asians was mostly Chinese, Japanese, South Korean.

Yeah. That kind of thing. There's a few Vietnamese kids. Asians are ruthless. You know, that's a ruthless on each other. You know, on Southern Southern Asian house. Like holy shit. Dude, I had no idea. Um, Yeah, tons of Indian kids and I, I learned a decent amount about Indian American culture because of my Indian American friends. How hard they had it from their parents scholastically. Yeah. Like they got their ass beat if they got an A minus. Oh, wow. That's a whole different fucking existence. My parents were mad if I actually didn't pass the class. So if I had an F, I'd get in trouble. But if I got a D plus, I'm like, Hey, that's so past the class. I don't have to take it again. If you're Asian, if you get an A, you get in trouble. The trauma is like, um, it's off the rack trauma, you know, it's like it's preloaded. Like there's a certain amount no matter how good you do. You're still catching a beating. You're still catching a beating. Yeah. I mean, the the amount of work.

Those kids had was just unfathomable, like I played football since I was 10. So you know, a part in wrestling and all that. So like there's a portion of the year. So, you know, I'll part and wrestled and all that. So, like, there's a portion of the year where I've got practice every day. I've got weight lifting in the morning. I'm doing all my classes. Then I have some homework, which I would kind of shit on. If I didn't like the class, and if it was easy, I'd do it. If I could pass the class with just testing scores, that's what really got me through. I could memorize things very quickly. And as long as the teacher spoke about it in class, I would remember those lectures when the test came. If I had to read it for myself, I wouldn't, you know, so that might require me to be taking a class in the summer. But seeing the stack of like sports, music, sometimes more than one musical instrument, class, AP classes, I just, I couldn't fucking believe it. You know, I was like, that's a different life. You know, completely different. Yeah, I mean, my wife is, she was born in Florida.

Her dad's Italian descent from New York, like Long Island area. Okay. Her mom is Chinese, was born and raised in Brooklyn, like her parents came to the States, and she grew up with like the whole Tiger mom situation. Went to school seven days a week. When she was two, she wouldn't get fed until she finished hooked on phonics. Damn, at two years old. I'm still working on, you know, refactoring that trauma. And just like was always booked, right? And straight A plus or nothing, it was like really intense. So it's, it's, it's so interesting, like how different cultures, parent and how different cultures raise kids, and what that creates as a result in adulthood. Like how height someone's system is, you know,

you know, I think of it like a straight jacket. And everyone's wearing straight jackets, like time is a straight jacket, right? And some people, their straight jacket around time is, it's, it's cranked a little tight. So they're always feeling compressed in terms of time, right? And there's other people where their straight jacket around time is like a little loose. It's like wearing sweatpants or like marine oval shorts. And you barely feel it and they feel really spacious and you meet them and they're not in a rush, they're not stressed, they're just follies. And then, you know, there's straight jackets around money. You can feel the people who like money feels tight, money feels scarce. So there's like, there's attention in their system, you know, kind of feel it, right? And this, this whole thing, by the way, came through thanks to Ayahuasca,

who's phenomenal, who's writing a book through me and dictating like chapter by chapter. So this whole thing, the phrase that came through is agreement fields. And an agreement field is basically this relational system we live in. And we live in this nested network of relational systems. And so you and I are in an agreement field. And when we are in an agreement field, we're relating with some, essentially in a contract, you know, within some agreements. And the way that most of us enter into this life, we basically inherit agreement fields. So taxes is a great example of an agreement field we inherit. We never question. And then we just accept COVID. We don't have to accept that by the way. That's true because taxes are voluntary. Yes, sir. And so, you know, there's agreement fields around money.

There's agreement fields around self-worth. And like people inherit, there are agreement fields around self-worth based on how their parents treat them and, you know, expectations. And school and all these, all these societal, you know, norms. And so most people, they unconsciously step into agreement with all of these contracts. And they grow up and the more contracts that are unexamined and unconscious that we accumulate, the heavier life gets and the tighter the straight jacket gets. And so the way out is to actually first identify which of these contracts we found ourselves in. People have that with their body too, right? Like they have, you know, someone may have a tight straight jacket with their body. They feel, you know, not good about their body. They feel ashamed. They feel not enough. They feel too much. And that is a relationship that they're always inside of

with themselves. And we have thousands of these with ourselves, right? Across all different things. And most people, when they're unconscious in this, you know, they, they suffer and marriage is an agreement field, right? That's a big one. And marriage is one, there's an umbrella agreement field, there's several agreement fields within it, right? Yeah. And that's one where, you know, it's relatively conscious where like two people in adulthood are coming together and they're saying, okay, you know, let's spend our life together. Let's partner through life and let's vows are kind of the, the contract that's defined. And most people who step into that agreement field, they even inherit the template for the vows, right? This codependent bullshit of completing each other and, being each other's, you know, missing half and, you know, this really deeply codependent way of relating

where the ceremony of marriage is them formally giving their power away, right? You know, to a, each other, but then to the state, because actually one of the states has a patent for marriage, because the traditional like legal marriage, it's not the husband and wife that are joined together, it's, the husband is joined to the state and the wife is joined to the state and the husband and wife are connected through the state. Hmm. It's fucking wild. That's which state is that? I forget, it might be Utah. Okay. But don't quote me on that. Actually, I could see that Utah, they're just a little different there for certain. And so like nationhood, like citizenship, like our connection to our nationality, that's an agreement field. And there's all of these businesses in a green field, right, businesses in agreement field between the people who work there, the people who transact with it. And I found this lens like so powerful

to really understand like what is actually creating my experience in each moment, like what's creating the conditions in our marriage. Like for example, I never asked my wife to commit to me, because I can't ask that to another human being. Like how can she promise to commit to me and stay committed at some point in the future? Like there's no way her present self can actually make that decision. Right. You have to choose. And choose to choose again. So I only asked her to commit to herself. So our marriage is based on her full commitment to herself and her best interest and her operating as much as possible in a way that she honors herself. Right. And it's crazy to me, like there's so many things that we just accept. We don't actually think through and we deeply think about. And I think most people are not living their own life,

including us, by the way. Right. No, it affects everyone. Like we're trying as much as we can to uncover these invisible contracts and untangle them and really decide like, hey, even down to what we eat, where we live and how we operate and how we talk to ourselves and how we treat it. We were just talking about stories and beliefs and like the narratives we hold with ourselves. And so much of that is unconscious and so much of our waking life is just like, oh wow, didn't know about that. Like they did not sign up for that. It's like all the subscriptions that we signed up for. It's like, wait, what is this? Why am I paying $89 a month for this thing that we use? Absolutely. There's a few things that you brought up that really resonated with me. One, on the agreement piece, the first time I ever examined that was when I'd read the four agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz and he talked about the domestication of man.

And I was like, that's fucking dark. We're not domesticated animals, you know, and then later, you know, with medicine work, I'm like, damn, we're domesticated animals, but you know, he's talking about like red means stop. Green means go. Something is very basic as that agreement, right? And that's just make believe. Yeah. Stop on red because there's something inherently correct in stopping on red. We do because we're conditioned to, and we agree to that agreement, right? So much of that started to just open my mind to think about these things, especially now in fatherhood, where it's like, hey, just so you know, ways to think about this, to kind of, you know, step a layer back to observe, you know, in awareness. Like I totally would talk about it. It's to actually, shit, look at these things we all say yes to. Look at the things that technology that you have in your life. I didn't have an iPad when I grew up. I had corded phones on the wall. You couldn't talk to anybody in your car yet. That was like years away. And, but I had a mentor of mine, Dr. Will Tagle. Awesome, great, great guy. He passed away a few years back. He wrote, walking with bears and some other amazing,

he was a PhD in psychology and a PhD in physics. So very cool, unique blend and had done a lot of work with indigenous cultures. But he talked about the Muscogee Creek, Indian nation that had every year in January, they would circle up in a big group to examine and make new agreements that you do that annually in your relationships with your kids, with your wives, with the chief, with whatever, you know, your role in the tribe, all of these things were examined and all of those agreements were made new again. And I was like, that's really cool. And he's like, think about it. You had a marriage, you know, when you were with your wife before you were married, that was an agreement, that was one type of marriage. Then you guys got married, then you had, that's a different marriage, then you had your son, that's a different marriage, you know, then open marriage, that's a different marriage, then back to monogamy, that's a different marriage. All of those required different agreements and all of those were different experiences entirely, right? And it's totally true.

Like, us together before having kids was it a whole different fucking thing, you know, that had a lot of different requirements, different responsibilities, all of that. So that makes a ton of sense. And then the word you used around with a straight jacket and time and money, right? Cause those I think are the two, the two big ones, right? If I felt, when I first got to on it, I had basically taken that job on a very quick turnaround. I had one sponsor for my podcast, those PING 90 grand a year. We had a contract at a 30 K severance. And while I'm in the airport to fly to Austin for my interview, the CEO calls me up and he says, hey, we're out of money. We can't pay you another check and we can't even give you your severance. And I was like, fuck, like 90 K, we're the kid and the wife, two dependents, like I had nothing in savings. I had to borrow money from my mom to move back into my mom's garage. And that's going through my head and was like, fuck, I gotta let this go. And so I meditate the whole flight,

make it obviously, you know, the rest of the history I hit it off and up coming here. But that fear of how quick like it lose something was embedded in me. So I wanted to be at my desk and on stop. I wanted to do, you know, if it's 40 hours, I'm gonna be here 40 hours and all that stuff. And I just felt like a lot of people say now that time is speeding up. I that was my life experience. And in 2018, when I went out to visit Paul Check for a journey, I was looking at his libraries. Fucking, that'll give you a heart on better than anything else. Like it's unreal. And I'm like, oh, tell me about this guy. I'm pulling out. Here's the teaching you to Laosu. And here's this and that. And I've got like five books that I'm gonna read. And he reads me and he goes, how are you doing right now? And I was like, if you ever felt like life is just speeding up over and over again. And he goes, if you read a centralism and I was like, no, and he goes, make that the first book you read. I was like, but I really want to learn this stuff. You know, I really want to learn this. He's like, just read the essentialism first. And I did in that book, absolutely changed my life. You know, and it's low key spiritual,

Greg McHown is phenomenal book. I was the first time I was able to examine what am I saying yes to? Because I'm supposed to in great quotes and about the power of no. And at the power of filling my cup first, you know, and that actually helped break some of that time restraint, right? Another big one was actually learning how to meditate properly. The word I would use when I would meditate properly is I feel a sense of spaciousness. And I'd actually move my hands away from my chest. I feel a spaciousness when I meditate. I'm able to drop in, right? And that spaciousness really had to do with the two things you mentioned time and money, right? I don't feel constrained by time and money. I feel a spaciousness open within me. Even if it's 10 minutes or an hour, it doesn't matter. If I hit that reset, it's there. The spaciousness is there. So that confinement of the straight jacket is super fucking resonant. It's crazy. Like I was as I was driving here this morning, I was thinking about this.

Like when we disconnect from God, that's when we experience scarcity, particularly scarcity of time and money. But also, we become agitated. We don't feel the steep sense of ease. Our heart starts to close and are literally like the straight jacket here, in this case, literally is the fascia. Right. It's the literal sheath that encompasses our organs and everything. But when we plug into the mains, when we plug into God, when the iPhone is connected to the iCloud, and it can access infinite storage, it can access infinite computational resources, then the way I think about it is we resource. We connect back to source. And that resources us. And we feel so abundant with these resources

that we align with divine timing. And divine timing is the sense of there being an abundance of time. There's enough time for everything. And everything is exactly on time. I'm not too late. I'm not behind. I'm not ahead. I'm just exactly where I need to be, which creates this deep sense of ease, felt sense of ease with time. And then in terms of resources, I feel abundant because I feel connected to the creator's resources, which is infinite, infinite. And I feel this deep sense of ease that there is nothing lacking. There's nothing scarce. There is nothing that I need that is not available to me in this moment. And there is a melting and there's this deep sense of ease and spaciousness. And I think one of the most important practices for human

being is to resource. And the ultimate resource is God. And I also think the ultimate business architect is God. I think the ultimate solution to an unhappy marriage is God. And when we feel held by God, our system can relax. It's like the way I described this is, we're standing on quicksand. It's we're not going to feel at ease. Our nervous system is going to freak out. We'll get tight. And now imagine I give this person a 45 pound barbell with two plates on each side. It's like doing overhead press. Well, fuck. I can barely stand here. How the fuck am I going to overhead press this? But if someone's standing on solid ground, and they can feel the stability and the strudiness of the thing that supports them, and they're proprioceptively they can allow their brain

to recognize that their feet are being held by the earth. And there's a counterforce to it, which creates a sense of effortlessness in standing. And then it travels up the kinetic chain and the whole body can stack right on top. And now you give this person like double the amount of weight and they can hold it. And so most people, they're trying to build a business, a career, a mission in life, a family, a beautiful relationship, a house, a vision, all these things while standing on quicksand. When we don't feel held, then it's very hard for us to feel the sense of grounding, stability, and ease to hold a bigger vision, to hold a vision for more harmony in our relationship, to have a better relationship with kids, to have a more extraordinary life, to build a great business, to create impact.

There's this thing that I heard that fucking hit me so hard, dude. If I asked you, what is the opposite of holding on? What would you say? Letting go with that language, but surrender, you could say, another way of saying letting go. And I would have said the exact same thing. And I forget where I read this, but it was like the true opposite of holding on is being held. And I sat with this for a while, and I realized that we can let go a little bit ourselves, but full letting go can only happen when we feel held. And for us to fully surrender, for us to fully let go, for us to fully allow, we have to feel held. And this came to me, which hopefully this offense at least a few people. If I don't offend a few people, then I feel like I'm failing in life. But in the perfect harmonic relationship,

family, the kids feel held by mom and dad. The woman feels held by her man, and the man feels held by God. Doesn't mean that the kids and the mom shouldn't have a relationship with God as well, which they should. But I think there is a divine harmonic order of being held. And when everyone feels held in this daisy chain of being held, then there is a beautiful emanation of this divine safety and stability and ease that propagates through the entire system. And it's the same thing in a business. When employees feel held by their supervisor, like whoever they're reporting to, and they feel cared for, they feel like their best interests are at their heart. They're seen. They're seen. They're tuned to. They're recognized. They're valued. Their contribution is seen as important.

And they're taken care of. They're held in this loving presence. And that sometimes also means challenged, right? And held to a higher standard and held accountable. That to me, truth is love. And that's also a big part of what nurture looks like. And the same way that being held propagates upward. And the person, the founder of the business, the CEO, feels held by God. And the people that the business is here to serve feel held in a way by business, by the business, right? By the products, by the services, whatever. Then the business operates in its highest harmonic state. And you can feel the energetic imprint of that business. It's palpable, right? And we also see the opposite. We see businesses where you can feel the absence of the heart. Or they have the logo, don't be evil. Placer across the wall.

Right. Right. Right. Exactly. Exactly. What? You can feel the lack of ease. You can feel the fear. You can feel the scarcity. You can feel it's a different frequency. And so businesses have a frequency. Every entity, every geometry has a frequency. Agriculture. Agriculture. Exactly. Even these cultural constructs have frequencies. And what are we in agreement with? What agreement feels are we operating in? What have we said yes to? What contracts have we stepped into that we don't want to actually be in? And they're actually running our life. And when we are in an energetic contract with another entity, we are receiving all the energetic information in that entity. And it's flowing through our system. And half the time, like the things we experience that don't feel good, they might not even be ours.

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that I would have probably scoffed at prior to Iawasco, working with Iawasco is the idea that, I mean, it resonated like morphic resonance, morphic fields, things like that from a Rupert Schildrake, understanding on paper the collective unconscious, the collective conscious Jung's work. But the concept that I'm being affected by something that's not even mine, you can actually experience that in the Iawasco circle where like you have a memory that someone else is working through the shit they're working through or you purge and you feel totally cool. You're in a beautiful spot, but all of a sudden you have to throw up and it relieves the person sitting next to you. Right? Like until you experience that, it's kind of hard to imagine. Right? But you know, that just because you're, you know, shockwaves are unlocked and you're in that ceremony, doesn't mean that's not happening outside of that ceremony to a different degree, right? I'm not saying you're going to go purge when you walk by somebody that's going through something, but that is 100% the case, right? There's absolutely true. Yeah, I, you know, a very simple way that I think

to recognize that is reality is a fractal, right? Like you see seashells and galaxies and like different, you know, the shapes just, the patterns just repeat in nature. And what I realized was that the reason why these patterns repeat in nature, you know, according to the golden ratio is because the fractal architecture is actually the most efficient way to compress information. So if everything came from nothing, then that means infinity has to be compressed into zero, right? Like even if we take the big bang as a theory, like if there was one point and this one point was the tiniest dot you could create in the universe. And from that, everything that is the universe exploded out,

which is absolutely massive, then the universe, God had to find a way to compress the totality of everything into nothing. The only way to do that is essentially through math, where the thing can be compressed onto itself infinitely till it comes into a singularity. So the way nature is organized, everything is fractal, everything repeats at different scales. And the whole thing is one organism, right? And we, in that one organism that we create the sense of differentiation, because it's more convenient for me to think that I'm me and you are you and you are a different being than me, because that gives me a unique perspective on reality and that gives me and my being a different organizing principle and organizing function, which creates this differentiation because you and I make different choices.

Maybe we make a lot of similar choices based on how much resonance we share, but we also make a lot of different choices. And everyone making choices that make sense to them creates this diversity of and multitude of perspectives, which then harmonizes into this collective experience. And this consensus reality where we agree that red means stop and green means go. But even in our own bodies, my liver, my kidneys, my spleen, are they individual organs or are they part of the same organism? And then even within my liver, does tissues, are these different tissues are these completely differentiated? Can they exist on their own? No, they kind of need each other and they've organized with each other to form different structures within my liver and they cooperate within an agreement field

and my liver and my spleen cooperate and collaborate within an agreement field. And so I'm a collection of agreement field of different other entities. Why wouldn't you and I be part of the same entity who are also in an agreement field agreeing to cooperate in a certain way? And why wouldn't the examination and conscious creation of harmonic agreement fields across humanity bring us into the highest level of ease, of power, of expression, of harmony, of resonance, of health, as in the proper flow of energy through this entire distributed lattice network of entities? You know, all of this just adds up into one because everything comes from nothing. Yeah, uni, uni, one song of numbers. Yeah, there was a funny cartoon, I think it was from Larsen,

who wrote those old, or drew the old black and white and it was right, right at the time when people were learning about the microbiome and the beneficial bacteria and our gut, it's like shows the inside of the colon and the large intestine and there's bacteria there and one bacteria kicks one of the microvelei and the other bacteria is like, hey, don't do that, that things alive. And he's like, that's inanimate. It's just a fricking, you know, it's just a piece of whatever, it's not alive, it's not conscious, you know, like this argument goes back and forth, you know, for the bacteria inside our gut over if the rest of this is actually a system, I'd like to believe that most of those bacteria actually get it and do understand that they're a part of a greater whole, right? And that, you know, maybe we are the only ones that have forgotten we're a part of a greater whole. Yeah, I think the capacity for self-consciousness and self-reflection, the differentiation drive also creates disharmony because it creates different choices and pathways.

Like I think a lot about like, why do we do the things we do, right? The every choice we make has a directionality, like right from like when you wake up, like how you get out of bed, you know, the fact that you go, you take a piss, you brush your teeth, like every choice is being made in this cartesian space of infinite choices because you could get up and then you could go right outside or you could get up and you could just jump up and down, you could get up and you could scream. But out of those infinite choices, you make a very specific set of choices. So to me, like what drives the choices we make are our values, right? And so we always have this value system that's algorithmically running, you know, the thoughts that are generated, the beliefs that are running and the choices that are made, the actions that are taken, you know, downstream of all that.

And any time, you know, one value system that's in resonance with another value system meets, there's this experience of harmony, like you know, I have been hanging out all day and you know, we're just jamming, we're flowing. There's no, like not once did I experience any moment of friction between us, right? And that's of course, the resonance between our value systems, which includes like showing up with a fundamental degree of respect, even though we literally just met, we got introduced a certain level of open-hearted care, a certain, you know, value system around, like, are the way we hold our energy and the way we appreciate another person's energy, a level of curiosity, a level of, you know, communication and a level of intentionality with all those things. And, but there's also, you know, differing value systems can also clash and they can also create friction and they can, and I think like we live in such a complex,

almost like when you unpack the fractal of God into, you know, infinite expressions, it creates a lot of entropy and the entropy like summed together in an integration function mathematically, you know, comes down to one, right? Back to that one verse. But when that fractal is unpacked into humanity, all different races and religions and, you know, preferences and desires and trauma and, you know, all of these things, we end up with this like, this soup where there is a level of, you know, collaboration, partnership and this frictionless interaction and then there's, you know, high friction interactions. And to me, like, at this time on the planet, probably like since COVID, it feels like the veil

has been lifted in a way and we can see the underbelly of collective consciousness of humanity just in a very naked way. Like it was always there, but like I feel like we're seeing it, the veil has been lifted for some people, some people are still like, because it's kind of in pain. Some people are still have two masks on right now, in 2026, because it's so intense. Like it's so intense to see what's actually happening in the world, right? And it's a lot to regulate, right? Like how, what's your journey been like like in this last, like did you feel like pre-COVID, you lived in a different world? Yeah, compared to like post COVID. Yeah, I mean, I understood there was obviously, like I think the first, you can go back to the beginning of the country, but you know, the, I didn't rabbit hole the Abraham Lincoln stuff until later, right? Like he died because he created his own money, greenbacks, not because of slavery.

But JFK was always worn that kind of hung in the air and then they came out with the movie and then you heard more about it, like it kind of resurfaced when we were young. Yeah. 9-11 for me was like the first, like, because I remember watching videos where firefighters were like, then the bomb went off, you know, and it's like, and then, you know, they rewrite the script and I'm like, but they, you can't find those videos anymore, right? It was like super early internet and I was in junior college, so I had access to go in on the computers and look up shit and it peaked my mind and then it never got solved and I just kind of put it away, right? Like I knew something was a mess, but I was like, all right, you know, put a pin in that and see if something ever comes from it. Then later we find out, you know, the Seven Wars in the Middle East are pre-planned. The Patriot Act, you know, is this bulldozer of something and it's even named in a way where like, oh, team America, you know, and then you fucking find out like, that's why we're being spied on by our own government. All of those things started to lift, but I still lived in a world where, you know, some part of the American dream is there, right?

If I work hard, if I do well, if people agree, you know, if I find my group, I'm gonna make it, things are gonna be good. COVID hits, I was actually camping at a Texas State Park and we got kicked out of the park. And I was like, this shit must be serious if they're making us leave a park because everything I know about the immune system is like, this is the best place on earth we could be. Surrounded by trees in nature outside, right? Like all of the things, and even later, like that was funny because it's like, that was the safest place we could have been, right? But we go home and I kind of bought into it a little bit, but I'm not a germafob. You know, like I've always understood terrain theory, at least as a part of the conversation. And I remember, you know, a few months in, Texas was kind of slower to adopt the bullshit, but Austin's a blue city, right? And they kind of followed suit in the way California and New York did. And I remember being at Whole Foods and I saw my buddy Eric Godsey there. And this is like a month or two into it. They still weren't requiring masks, but everyone was scared.

And I was like, Godsey, what's up, dude? And came and beat him a big hug. And it felt like the record stopped playing and that everyone stopped to stare at us, hugging each other. And it was like my first like, what the fuck is this? You know, but that was very revealing to me. The more I unpacked on that, the more experts I had on this podcast from Dr. Peter McCullough to Dr. Brian Artis, you name it, right? The censorship was the biggest piece where I'm like, if they're stopping us from talking about this, there's something, there's something afoot. There's something much bigger going on here. The fact that we could find safe remedies that already exist and they're going after those guys. Guys are 30 year medical doctors, right? Like McCullough was the most tenured academic doctor. It, one of the most like he had more fucking papers and more sightings than any other guy. He was the guy. And that too was his awakening. You know, for me, it was absolutely the holy shit red pill moment. And then I started looking into smart cities and we had purchased that house in Austin,

in South Austin near on it in the airport. And when we bought it in 2019, they said, we have ring pre-installed for you. It has solar, right? So you can lease it or finance it, but it has solar. You know, you'll sell that back to the thing, but it's to help the grid out and because the whole community's built with solar, there's no option. Okay, cool, there's no option. They gave us a sono speaker and I like sonos, but this sono speaker had a microphone on it. They gave us the thermal dials, which had cameras in them, all these shit, right? And I'm just like, whoa, Anna free Alexa. And I remember at first being like, this is cool. The bear's three years old. He's like, Alexa, play queen. Oh, okay, which queen would you like to hear? But he'd be in rap city and then he's dancing like a maniac. I'm like, this is dope, this is the future, you know? And then later I'm like, oh, ring is hardwired. It's not on Wi-Fi. It's one of the few things that's hardwired. So it stays on all the fucking time. During COVID, you know, they said you couldn't have people

at your house and then it was like, oh, eight people, max kind of thing. We did Thanksgiving. I like fuck all that, dude. We like 25 people there. No one gets sick. But all that stuff started to become self-evident. You know, then the 15 minute cities, the smart cities became even more evident. And then I'm like, all right, let's look into the Geodogryphan stuff on money. Let's look into all these different things. And so that for sure was the catalyst to wrap a whole, everything that I'm into now. Yeah, no question. Yeah. Yeah, I think the, to me, the only real solution to the whole situation is a level of personal ownership. And increasing the flow through the connective tissue of humanity as in people decentralizing how they do things. Yes. Right. Money is only possible when we operate from a different, from fundamentally different economic model and a different frequency entirely. And a different frequency entirely.

And this is like the whole page to exist stuff that I was telling you about. Like really what I'm doing is architecting a completely new economic model for how every individual can operate in alignment with their soul's purpose and mission. They can actualize into the greatest and highest expression of themselves. And there is an economic incentive to actually do that. As in they get paid to actualize in the way that they want in the way that they see fit. And them doing so creates value for other people. And those people, those other people, they receive that value and then they pay them with money or currency, right? And that creates an economy between individuals

without gatekeepers, right? And that is what allows for flow through any system increases its health and the lack of flow through a system decreases itself. Look at rivers and ponds. Exactly. So if we can create an increase in the flow of information through the different entities that represent all the people, like if you can transact with a farmer in Kansas because you've absorbed all this information about permaculture and growing a food forest and all this stuff. And that, so basically you've taken your life force. You've applied that life force to gain information than knowledge than wisdom. And if you share that with someone else who's maybe thinking of starting a food forest, someone who's thinking of getting land and raising animals and all this stuff,

you can dramatically shortcut their journey, which means now they need to spend a fraction of their life force to get the same outcome. And they'd be happy to pay for that with money which they accumulated by spending their life force, right? So they can spend the money to get back life force, right? And when they pay you money, it gives you back life force because money is not money, money is time, right? Because the more money we have, the more of our time we own back. And so this economic model basically allows for people to be less reliant on centralized institutions and centralized corporations because the way energy and information flows through an economy and through a country is through these centralized corporations and institutions.

So like, but like 90% of all the stuff that sold in a supermarket is owned by seven companies, right? So that's a centralization of resources. It's a centralization of value. And therefore, all these people are transacting with those seven companies in order to eat, right? And then, so that reduces the flow, that centralize the flow through the connective tissue of the people, whatever 400 million people in this country. But if people can basically create value, everyone's creating value, right? Like you've accumulated so much value and learning how to raise two wonderful kids. You've accumulated incredible value in the incredible marriage that you built with your wife of 15 years. You know, congratulations. By the way, happy anniversary. It's a very, very, very phenomenal. And, you know, the value is exponentially higher

because of all the challenges you've navigated, right? You've created more value than someone else who's been married for 15 years and it's just been chill and easy. Like, because that didn't require the, for them to increase whole higher standards and values, so where does value come from, right? Value comes from values. So you developed incredible physical abilities and incredible physical attributes that put you in like the top 1% of men. How did that happen? Because you raised your standards and you decided to hold higher values which made you eat in a certain way, train in a certain way, dedicate yourself to the mastery of your body, to learning Jiu-Jitsu and getting your ass beat over and over and over and over again, until one day you were a black bell. So value comes from values, right?

Why do we respect people men in the world who are in great shape? Because anyone can instinctively tell that that person is in great shape because they operate from a different set of values. And because they operate from a higher set of values, they have more value in society, society respects them. And then they can take that and they can trade that for other kinds of value, right? And so I think to me, the only solution to a lot of these things is a different economic model because whether we like it or not, money runs the world. And if we can create a level of self-authorship, self-governance and collaboration and cooperation between people where they can exchange value freely and by the exchanging of that value. And we've seen so many of these micro-economies in Austin, by the way, right?

All these, there's this woman I know who went really deep into post-partum nutrition. Oh, cool. And she now runs a company where she does post-partum nutrition for women who are like six months away from giving birth and then they've just given birth. And then the first year or so of when they've had a kid. Awesome, right? And it's all designed specifically for having the best birth for natal nutrition and then, you know, refeeding the mother and- How it takes it no matter if the mom's taking it or not. Exactly. We're gonna take what it needs. Now, how beautiful is that, right? And this woman is able to build a multi-six figure business like doing that. And she loves that, right? It's a deep passion for her. And she's able to help so many women

who don't have the time, the energy, the resources to gain mastery in that subject. And they have, you know, all these other things going on and they get to benefit from that. And there's an equal exchange. And that allows us to be, you know, both independent and free, but be actualized into who we came here to be pursue obsession, right? Develop mastery, like really dedicate ourselves to something. Because I think that's what we're all looking for. But we all wanna, people hate again, sacrifice and, you know, commitment and everyone wants freedom. But to me, the highest level of freedom is me being able to dedicate my entire fucking life to the obsession, to the pursuit of the thing that turns me on the most, that lights me up the most. All right, y'all, quick break to tell you about my brand new community, the Kingdom Within. It is launched on school right now.

If you join, you get a free one week trial. You'll have access to any videos we recorded in the past. We call them days at school. So first day of school, second day of school, all this stuff is available. Like I said, we just launched. The community is small, which is absolutely great. Because if you join now, you will have all your questions answered. I mean, there's just no competition. So the community is about body. It's about mind. It's about connection. It's about family, nature, psychedelics, everything is on the table. And right now, I'm just walking people through some of the most important things I think, in a key take away, is from the books that I've read and the people I've befriend and learned under, guys like Paul Chek, Mark Sisson, and so many others. And I've broken it down into very easy to use practical steps on how to optimize the body. And with that, lay the foundations for a successful life, for better productivity, for better emotional intelligence with your kids, with your wife, with your girlfriend, for better connection, which is really what it's all about. And then how do I connect to myself? What does that internal relationship look like? How do I connect to nature?

I get it. Now, now that you're going to have a farm, most of the people listening to this don't, that's fine. How do I reconnect to nature? How do I build out my eco field in my own little backyard? If I got an apartment, what are the plants that I bring in? How do I respect nature and make communion with it? And then how do I do that with God? There are so many paths that lead us up to mountain. And I've spent the last 20 years of my life, really researching, digesting, and breaking this down. So I am so excited to be able to share this with you guys. I love the back and forth. It's something I just don't get on the podcast. I don't get to hear from you guys and get to go back and forth with you and learn about what's going on in your lives. I do in the community on school. It's called the Kingdom Within. And you can go click on it in the show notes and it'll take you right to the about page. And like I said, we cover all the bases. So it's really hard to kind of say, like, this is my niche. This is what we're doing. Optimization, all of a sudden, just join, join us for one of the school days and see what it's like. I guarantee you it will change your life for the better. All right, guys, back to the podcast.

Let's fucking beautifully stated. You had a few really huge core ideas. One, you know, like people are like, oh, what's it all for when they talk conspiracy? But why? What's it all for? And I think that's pretty trackable if you pay attention, right? The new world order, the great reset, is all pointing towards a unified one-world government, right? It's what the World Economic Forum talked about. You'll learn nothing and be happy. It doesn't mean they don't own things. It just means we don't own things, right? That's a, we're renting everything. We're renting to fucking be alive. Life is a subscription now. Yes, life is a subscription, exactly. Think about the subscription model. Or a ring was one of my first sponsors, great product. Woopwatch comes out not quite as good as Or a ring, but they give it to you for much cheaper and then put you on subscription for the rest. Woop is worth way more money than Or a ring right now because the subscription model. So back to the new world order. If that's the end game, then you can see, as David Ike says, what the totalitarian tiptoe is actually doing.

They're trying to march us into this state. So what is the pivot from that, right? And there are several, but I think, you know, the concept of centralization versus decentralization is core to the entire thing, right? And, you know, when people talk about living off grid or, you know, sovereignty and things that nature, it's funny because a lot of the general population, like my sister included, she's like, oh, you're going to go live in a cabin in the woods and I'll never see you again. And I'm like, no, that's not it. But true sovereignty, no individual survives on their own, right? The lone wolf dies, the pack survives. True sovereignty is inclusive of interconnectivity, right? And that interconnectivity is what you're speaking to. There's a great book called Power for the People or Power for the Powerless by V-Club, Hobble. He went to, he was imprisoned during the Soviet Union's invasion of the Czech Republic or Czechoslovakia, I forget which comes later, the original, when we were kids. And he goes to jail for four years

after a play that he wrote, right? Which was pointing out all of the bullshit with socialism and, you know, the lack of, you know, the fact that this is all, you know, wrong. And he gets out and he becomes the first president of the country. And he's writing this book that the reason their country was able to not be taken over and its entirety was because of the fact that people had built parallel systems. And the parallel systems were economic. The parallel systems were person-to-person interconnected, right? And now we have more options than ever with cryptocurrency, the rise in gold and silver again, you know, like, you're pretty hard to pay for something with gold because of the value of it. But we're seeing more and more people by metals. We're seeing more and more people get into cryptocurrency. We're seeing a lot of decentralized marketplace like tag where people can now send money to a friend and he can access it right away. And now it's cool that I'm just seeing recently, Otto Gohms. I don't know if you're familiar with him. He's an amazing dude.

It has turned me on to a lot of this stuff. Big and a trust law, constitutional law, awesome guy. You know, the big bank see that there's so much money that Visa and Mastercard are partnering with them. So I can, I don't even have to take my money out to an exchange, you know, like Kraken or Coinbase and then take that back, you know, sell it and then take it back as US dollars to my bank and have the bank go where did you get this money, you know, like that doesn't even have to occur. I can leave it in there and then put a portion into the wallet and then the wallet. I can just, that converts it to cash right away. I can pay for my fucking bills, pay for gas, for food for any of those things, right? So like, I think we're seeing, I forget who it was. I was talking about this, but like, technology's neither good nor bad. But what we're always gonna see is the bad guys using technology. 100% right. They're gonna use blockchain. They're gonna use all these things. Bad guys are gonna use weaponry. But then once that's witnessed, there's a lot of good people. There's a lot of way more good people than bad people.

Like fucking way more. And those good people can be smart people as well. And those smart people can take that technology and use it for the good. And I think this is where we're gonna see, Web 3.0, Web 5.0, the ability to move independently and interconnected person to person. And that is the parallel system that you're speaking of. That is this separate economy that will have to take place. Alex, Zach, do you know him? Yeah, I've heard of his stuff. Awesome dude, I love him. He's become a good buddy. And he made this long post that took an hour of my time to read through. It was like 20 pages in small font that I had a swipe right for. Well, I just kept doing. And he's talking about the new world order and things like that. But he was pointing to one of the main ways that we will adopt, you know, the social credit score via China, which is the end game, is through universal basic income. So when you hear Elon talking about, you know, it's gonna be universal basic income, but it's gonna be a lot of money, you know, and Rogan's a shit like that. That if you have your own financial nest egg

and that's diversified in the ways that you want it to, you're not gonna need the UBI. But if you say yes to the UBI, that's where you get programmable money. Yeah, that's where they say, oh, looks like you've been driving too much this month. You know, you can't fill up gas. Yep. And oh, you know, you've had your meat quota for the week. So for the rest of the month, you need soil and, and fucking beyond meat, right? So that just understanding that, it raises the importance in my opinion of understanding how to use the parallel systems and also how to provide for yourself in a way that's not attached to the mainstream. I wasn't affected the way a lot of people were during COVID because I couldn't be fired by anybody, right? I didn't have a decision to make. I'd fucking, I've been anti-vax since 2015. When my son was getting ready to pop out, I researched a ton of this shit, dissolving illusions, Dr. Susan Humphries, and she was finally on Rogan's, many of them, Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, and so that led us to not wanting to vaccinate. Now there's tons of data. There's Vax for Sun Vax from Brian Hooker PhD

and Bobby Kennedy, that show the populations of completely unvax versus the population of completely Vax. Look it up for yourself, right? So when this was like the saving grace, was this brand new technology experiment, I didn't even have a decision to make. And I wasn't, there was nobody that could pressure me into that, and I don't fault anybody who was pressured into it, whether it be from family or your job or whatever, I get it. You gotta provide, you know? But by sourcing the way that you're talking to, the way you're talking about creating, you know, number one, you're stepping into being the very best version of yourself. That is the marketing, that is the uniqueness, right? And then two, by receiving wealth for that, right? Now you have nothing standing in the way, there's no one that can control you and say, hey, you don't get to fly this month, or you're not allowed to leave your 15-minute city. Yeah, yeah, you know, I have a lot of compassion for people with jobs, but having one's livelihood

and safety, because first of all, you know, someone's listening to this and their employee, they're basically dependent on the boss of the company for their paycheck. So that's one thing. Second thing is they have to ask for permission to take time off, right? Third, they get evaluated on their behavior. So they get told if they're doing good enough, right? And they're held accountable. So that is a complete, perfect recreation and reenactment of childhood. That's a parent-child relationship. It's social credit as well. Exactly. So social credit, UBI, it's a recreation of the parent-child dynamic. And in the parent-child dynamic, the child is helpless, they're dependent and they're powerless. And the parent is all powerful. They get to say what happens and they hold all the cards.

So it's a very fragile, to me, risky and dangerous position to be as an employee, because, you know, there's no agency, there's no sovereignty. And we saw that with employees needing to get vaccinated, even if they didn't want to, if they wanted to keep their jobs. And most people, they have families to feed. They, like, it's a very difficult situation to be put in. And I think taking sovereignty over one's finances is the first step in this whole thing. Because if we don't have sovereignty over our finances, then we were not really sovereign, because most sovereignty is downstream of financial sovereignty. And then we have to appeal to mommy and daddy, government or corporation to allow us to make the choices

we want. And that's a very disempowered state to be, right? And that's most people. And I think with the way AI and all this stuff is going, there's never been a better time for someone to decide to take a level of self-authorship over their life. Like, even if it's a side hustle, diversifying their, their income, you know, investing, there's all these ways to take sovereignty back economically and not be in a situation where you have to do something you don't want to do, because you're kind of dependent on another entity. And to me, the deepest level of sovereignty actually comes from the deepest level of interdependence and collaboration and cooperation. Like all the tribal cultures, like their sovereignty was rate limited by their ability to collaborate and cooperate. And they had one person who, you know,

or a few people who would farm, few people who would hunt, few people who would, you know, build houses. And like, it was a perfectly collaborative architecture relationally, right, at a larger scale and at increasingly larger scales, where people played a role that was a reflection of their gifts and their personality and their ability, their unique ability. And when you have a network of people who are all aligned to their unique ability, to their unique zone of genius, they're playing their part in this larger whole. And there's a level of cooperation and collaboration. Then, you know, there's a fundamental level of harmony. And we've kind of lost that because we have these centralized authority figures and you're talking about the one world thing, which is an even greater degree of centralization. Yeah. Right. And I think the people who are most

at risk and, you know, one of the things that you and I have done for the last, you know, decking in the half is like, really help, really try to help like people come into a level of empowerment, right? You in ways like emotionally, spiritually, you know, in so many ways. And like a lot of my focus has been primarily economic because, you know, I think every human being should get paid to exist. And that's not like a euphemism for UBI where they get paid to do nothing. But, you know, it's because I don't think that's the end goal. Like my end goal is not to retire because I'm so rich and, you know, I'm complete. That's my health. You know, I want to be obsessed and insanely turned on by my life. Feels so purposeful, so energized, so passionate, so, obsessed that I have a reason to wake up for, you know,

I'm wildly engaged, you know, I'm getting closer and closer to God every day because I'm so in my purpose and I'm living a life that is so meaningful and that's so fulfilling. And when we can tie an economic incentive to operating like that, that's what I think is the essence of getting paid to exist. The opposite of getting paid to exist, by the way, is getting paid to perform. And there's two kinds of performance. The first kind of performance is I'm, I'm literally doing something I don't want to do because most people, the way they make money is by doing something they don't want to do. Like a lot of people, they wake up, they don't want to go to work, but they go to work. They don't want to sit there under fluorescent lights, but they sit there under fluorescent lights, right? So they're actively engaging in an active self-betrayal to get their basic needs met, right? And that creates a deep state of disempowerment, prostitute archetype, exactly.

And the other way to think about paid to perform is even entrepreneurs, like what they're doing, the as they're often doing stuff they don't want to do because they're built to business around, you know, something that may make them money, but it's not deeply meaningful. Or if they have built a business that is meaningful, like a lot of people, I'm sure you've seen these people online, a lot of big influencers, they're performing a character. Yes. Right? They're like, who, okay, who do you want me to be? Like how can I express myself and how can I act to get you to like me, to get you to validate me, to get you to pay me? And they're just playing a character online, persona, a persona. And so they're getting paid to perform a character, right? And to me, like I violently reject both those paradigms, because to me, the deepest level of ease comes from the greatest level of authenticity.

When I fully accepted myself, then I can just fully be myself. And that's when I can fully be at ease, because if there's a part of me that needs me to be a certain different way to get what I want, whether it's approval or belonging or a sense of control or safety or validation or money, then I'm basically engaging in an act of self-procurement. I can't be at ease. I'm not whole, right? And I have a real issue with the dominant paradigm for how money's made. And I think if we can create a new economic paradigm where the way we receive money is by fully being ourselves and fully becoming ourselves, fully falling in love with ourselves, fully being aligned with our creator, with God, and embodying all those characteristics of compassion, love, empathy, care, certainty, safety,

you know, ease, open-heartedness, then we can actually change the collective frequency. Because it doesn't take that many people. I think they found that even more powerful as a frequency than love is authenticity. Whoa. Yeah, 400 times more. Whoa. So is that using the same type of technology that that Hawkins David Hawkins was using? I think so. I don't think I saw authenticity on his consciousness scale, but that actually, that is resonant. I know, I think it wasn't a big term when he was around. Yeah. And you know what's crazy? Like all of society is organized and incentivized to reward in authenticity. How many people at their jobs feel authentic, right? They act like a different person than they do at home. And even like people who run their own businesses, they are not living in the deepest level of authenticity.

They can't say what they actually want to say. They can't share. And one of the things I respect most about you is that you've actually had the balls to be authentic. Right? You've actually had the courage to say stuff that felt very real for you, even though like, you know, it may receive... Poorly received is the best way of putting it. Poorly received. But to me, like, I have way more respect, the maximum respect for someone like you who has the willingness and the courage to do that, than the person who edits and morphs and chameleons themselves and says the thing that, you know, if they say that thing, then people will, you know, and we know those people too. And I think the incentive system is fundamentally fucked in terms of authenticity, because society rewards in authenticity. And so if we can shift how society is organized in terms of...

They're being an economic incentive structure for someone to be fully authentic, for someone to be fully expressed, for someone to have the virtues that make for a good fucking human being, and for someone to become a light in the world. And the way someone becomes a light in the world is by revealing their light. And the way someone reveals their light is by making contact with all the parts of themselves, that they have shame around, that they have guilt around, that they have pain around. And I'm saying this is someone. The first time I tried to kill myself, I was six years old. I really did not want to be here, right? Because I... And for a lot of my early life, I was very depressed. I was suicidal, and, you know, I just didn't feel at ease with myself. And, you know, of course, like we get the curriculum we need to... And so, you know, I feel so deeply passionate about this, because you've experienced this, I'm sure, like,

you feel so at ease when you're in contact with someone who's very at ease within themselves, right? And collectively as a society, I think for us to be fully at ease, we need people who are fully at ease, who are deeply, deeply, deeply fucking okay, being who they are. And actually, maybe a little proud of being who they are. And especially if who they are and what they think and their beliefs and their perspectives are not mainstream, right? Like, it's out of consensus reality, because consensus... One of my friends, she works with a practitioner who specializes in networks, final, you know what that is? No. It's the woo-woo branch of chiropractic science. So, instead of, like, crack a jack adjusting, they barely touch or hover, and it's all energetic. Okay. Like Ricky's though. Yeah, but like, people have like crazy experiences. And this woman says, the cultural field is a weak field.

Right? The cultural field is a weak field. The soul field is a strong field. And when we even energetically, like when we... And I think they studied this, like, if someone says an untruth, they lose muscular power, right? Yeah, they'd run the test, the original test, they'd just say, okay, my name's Kyle Kingsbury, and they test you, and then my name's Carl. Right. In immediate power drop. Right. Right. Universal. Right. People are living at a fraction of their power. People are living in a fraction of their potential, which is great for the control grid, because, you know, you have disempowered people, sick people. Sick people. Sick people. Because that also weakens the immune system. That changes someone's neurochemistry. It changes the thoughts that they think and the beliefs they hold. It changes how they feel. So it... It just... You know, the energy in the body plummets and those people are easy to control. So the ultimate level of rebellion is, like, harnessing our full power, right?

And harnessing our full power means we have to invite all the parts of ourselves and give them a seat at the table and accept them. If we can fully accept ourselves and we can fully be ourselves in the world. And if we can fully be ourselves in the world, we are accessing our full resources, our full capacity. And then if we plug into God, we're accessing infinite capacity and resources. And we have the ability to see visions and possibilities and inspiration and ideas. And we also have the ability through that to collaborate and cooperate, like what we're doing. And essentially, like, join forces, right? And work from source instead of working from force. And we can build and create from source because when we create from source, we're creating based on God's blueprint. And God's blueprint is so much better than our fucking blueprint.

And to me, like, operating by God's blueprint is basically aligning with the directionality of the universe, which is expansion and growth, right? Which is connectivity, so flow. So there's a flow of energy, which means I have to be receiving and I have to be offering, like the inhale and the exhale reciprocity. It's respect. It's me taking you as a part of me, right? It's me not seeing you as different from me. Therefore, it's you versus me. It's me seeing like, hey, you and I were part of the same shared being, which means that I take your needs as my own. I take your well-being as my own. When I show up to your door, like, I show you the same love, the same respect, the same care that I would to myself, right? And if we can take on those attributes of God, then I think we can change the fucking world. At least we can change our world. Yeah, brother. Well, and changing our world is no small feat. I used to think that the be the change you wish to see in the world was kind of a cool

line. And I was like, well, that's not going to do shit. And then, you know, Alex Zach had podcasted with Austin Beta. And you know, she's taking up the, I forget his name, the Japanese scientists work with water and photographing it. But she's, you know, programming it differently. Like she can show water, art or look, you know, meditate on art image and then freeze that and the water will be some rendition of the fucking art she's looking at, right? Really, really cool stuff. Wow. And I've told this story many times on the podcast, but I still think it's worth it because it's, to me, it's all I think about right now. And that, you know, she looked at eggs because egg whites are a lot of water and they can be photographed the same as water. And so being a farmer, you know, regenerative guy, like I'm a geek out on stuff like this. And so, you know, the dares between factory farm eggs and regenerative egg is the difference between poison and medicine. It's that big of a difference, right? You're talking about one hand that's never touched their feet on the ground that has never seen sunlight. That's been in a fucking building.

You drive by and you can smell them from miles away. And you know, she's pumped full of food. She can barely digest. They get so fat that their legs break and they just still lay eggs, you know, and they collect those eggs. Their pale as a ghost. She looked at that frozen egg white and it looked like the water that was programmed from mentally ill people or with hate, right? And it's all discombobulated. She takes the pastries, they, freezes it four hours later, gets a look at it and it's beautiful. It's fractal. It's like charged with love, right? It's charged with the light of the sun and the love of the mother underneath its feet. And that's cool. But where it gets really interesting as far as our conversation is she then places them by each other on a plate overnight and does the same test in the morning. And while these two are next to each other, the pastured egg and the, and the cage dig, the pastured egg's frequency changes that of the cage dig and raises it. And now it starts to look closer to the pastured egg and then it does to another cage

dig just from one night of being next to each other. So she took it even a step further, right? Thinking of like the 144,000 number or potential, you know, it's different for everybody. One percent of the population, something like that. However small that seems, she puts one egg in the pastured egg in the middle and 12 cage digs around it. Runs the same test the next day. And not only did that one egg change all 12 around it, but because of the feedback loop of these eggs all growing in positivity, the egg in the center became better too. Wow. Right? I think I can't get that image out of my head, right? That is literally the purpose. When you see the level of darkness and shit that we see in the world that has been going on for hundreds of not thousands and thousands of years, that apocalypse was telling my son about that word. Like that means to pierce the veil, to unveil. Doesn't mean the end of the world, right? We are piercing the veil. All this shit's been going on. We can just see it now for the first time and it's, wow, it's a lot. So what is the answer to that?

It's what you're talking about, right? It's entirely what you're talking about. It's the research from Austin Beta. It's understanding that as we raise our frequency, the impact of that is the ripple effect is far beyond, you know, showing a pebble and a pond and watching that ripple out. It's far beyond that. Yeah, we need people who are operating in their best and highest, right? It's like, to me, this is such a beautiful demonstration of resonance because like if we, you know, go take a bunch of people, go to a classical music concert and the, let's say it's a pianist who's just playing like the most beautiful pieces. Like our brain waves will synchronize to that, you know, collectively us in the audience, like our, our state will shift to that. You know, we will entrain to that and we will start coming into resonance with that music. And so I think we are all instruments and we're designed by God to play a very specific

frequency and that's our song. And when we are in full harmony with ourselves, when we're fully, you know, at ease with ourselves and when we're fully turned on and lit up by the thing that excites us the most, that's the song we're playing. And we're all meant to play our song. And when people hear our song, they entrain to the same frequency of harmony of ease, of joy, right? And you know, I think like in today's society, you know, bringing the economic piece in a business is actually an instrument when it's used to amplify our connection to source. So if you're widely passionate about farming and regenerative agriculture and, you know, past raised eggs and all this stuff and let's say you build a business around that, that business is less of a machine as most people, you know, think of business, oh, the business

is a machine that I operate. Sure, but it can also be an instrument that you play. And it can be the way that you put out your unique symphony into the world. And it's no different than a musician playing their instrument, right? And to me, this allows for a new paradigm of self-authorship, of autonomy, of self-authorship, of sovereignty, of self-expression, of authenticity. But that actually creates a different frequency in the world. And it allows people to entrain to that. And I think like, especially in the last like 10 years with social media, even with school, right? S.K.O.L. All these people who are making money from their passions, like there's some woman who makes apparently like a hundred K a month, who lives in Germany. And she sells a course that helps people who have multiple cats.

It helps them make the cats not fight basically. That's a nice one. Two, three. What the actual fuckless. Right. Right. And so like for the first time, we actually have the infrastructure from a technology perspective that people on wildly different sides of the planet, wildly different circumstances, can actually interact, can transact, and can exchange value. And I'm sure this woman is crazy passionate about cats not fighting. And I'm sure that brings her a lot of joy. And there's women who have birthed four kids and they have a lot of, you know, mother codes to share with women who are wanting to get pregnant and have kids. And we basically get to come into like what I think of as like the modern border economy, where we all get to vibrate at our highest frequency because we are in our highest joy,

because we're pursuing what, you know, we feel really passionate about what sets our soul on fire. We're creating what God created us to create. And the activity of doing that creates a certain frequency in the world. And when, you know, whatever the number is, like if enough people are doing that, we reharmonize the entire world because dark, the best way to get rid of darkness is to just turn on the light. And we all have the light, right? We can all choose to turn on our light. I think this, like what you're doing with this podcast is a huge piece of the formula, because we also need people to express because that changes the dominant frequency in the field, right? If we look on social media, like dude, my social media is like full of basically animals. It's like bears and cats and dogs. And like every time I open that thing, it brings me so much joy because of engineered

the algorithm. That's my wife. I love it. Dude, it's the best. Hawks, eagles, yeah, orcans. And like if you think about what you're doing, you're, you have a channel that people tune into. They plug into your frequency and they choose to receive your frequency. And when they receive your frequency, it shifts their frequency because they harmonize with your frequency. They start maybe valuing their body more. They start caring about what they eat more. Maybe they start showing up differently in their marriage. Maybe the next time they get pissed off with their kids, they show up a little bit differently. Right? All because you are choosing to express who you are. All because you are choosing to allow people to see who you are. All because you're choosing to allow people to hear your innermost thoughts, to get to know you.

Right? To get to know your perspective, your unique point of view that no one else has, that no one else ever will again, but this unique being has wisdom to share. This unique being has a certain frequency to share and people can now tune into it. Hundreds, thousands, millions of people. And so the amount of impact that you as an individual can have, if you just choose to be authentic and to share and express on your channel that other people can tune into, is absolutely fucking massive. Right? And now anyone can do this. Like anyone can start a YouTube channel and influence like hundreds, thousands, millions of people. And never before has the individual had so much ability to influence the world. And so I think you were talking about technology. You know, it's a tool. It's need a good nor bad. Like I think the capacity for how much good we can do with technology is absolutely mind

sparkling. And I don't think people fucking realize that. Right? And more and more and more and more people can become media companies just from their fucking living room. And they can share their thoughts. And right now, I think you probably noticed this too. What people are looking for and what people want is authenticity. Like people kind of start have started tuning out of the people playing a character. I mean, there's still people. And especially all the people that are reading chat, GBT scripts for the post, which is you can, there's a cadence to it. You can see it. You want you to know it. You can't unsee it. Right. You know, when I, when I, when I hear that stuff, like there's no humanity and there's no God. And I think what people are actually looking for is different access points to God. That's been that if I could you, if you could save my life in a one sentence, I'm looking for different access points to God. No question. And the eggs from the past raised hands, that's an access point to God.

Right? The, the sun, you know, outside in the, in the field, that's an access point to God. Like building a little AI platform that, you know, allows someone to get paid to exist and actualize their vision into the world and become economically sovereign by becoming creatively sovereign and, you know, creating inner and outer sovereignty and, you know, building a business that's the highest expression of their soul's purpose. You know, the stuff that I've been kind of obsessed with like these last like eight months, that's an access point. All of it is a fucking access point to God. Right? And that's kind of the cheat code. It's kind of the, you know, like it's the glitch in the matrix, right? Because it puts us in a completely different slipstream of reality. I love that brother. We got a jam. I don't mean to cut us off. No, we've been rocking and rolling. And this has been so much medicine for me. I know what will be medicine for the people listening. Where can people find you've got a YouTube?

You also teach. You also have a school account. Tell people the best place to get a hold of you. And if they want to learn more from you, how do they do it? Yeah. I'm going to go to the MAMAN IAN on YouTube. I think the new channel has got an underscore in between my first and last name on E.Dop money and on Instagram school.com backslash paid to exist. I'm around. Come find me. And this has been a real real pleasure and real joy. Oh, it's been an absolute treat for me, brother. Thank you so much.

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