
379. What trauma really is - With Ilan Stephani
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Trauma educator Ilan Stephani joins me to talk about control issues, trauma and learning, trauma as something we're rewarded for, trauma vs personality, the lying body, healing and politics, unworthiness, being weird after healing, cultural trauma, seeking safety, Munich vs Berlin, poverty, victimhood, and trauma and mysticism. A deep, wild, fun dialogue with someone I love…with a gorgeous ending!
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