#3282 RHOBH S15E15 Part One: All Dope Abandon

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2:04of Beverly Hills Dave. If you want this recap on Vidya, it's a video for those of you who don't speak. Dread, go listen to it over at patreon.com slash watch what crap ends or watch it rather. What has audio as well? And that's also where you get ad-free listening bonus episodes. Our newsletter, which is free. It's like a blog. It's fun. And Discord server, all that stuff is over there. So go to patreon. And thanks for being here. Ben, what's going on with you today? I'm riding the high of having just indulged in a ham and cheese croissant at the local bakery. I decided to treat myself for a Friday and I'm like literally so happy right now. I'm just like that was just the perfect way to start the weekend. I'm that's where I'm at. That's that's my I'm in croissantville, you know. That's right. But actually, but more globally, I am actually very happy. I was really enjoyed the TV on Bravo last night. I enjoyed this episode of Beverly Hills very much.

3:06Of course, ladies of London is fantastic. We'll talk about that later. But I'm a happy little clam. How about you? Good. And yeah, I'm happy too. I'm not carb-fueled, which sucks. But you know, I'm still happy. Why not? Well, I'll be happy. My mom's can ask the group, took me out to happy hours. That was really fun. I'm sure with all that. I've got to catch up on all the lady gossip, which I've surely been missing. It's you know, it's amazing. People have been sending me a video of this kid on TikTok. It's a whole group of women sitting around on a couch listening to something on a phone. And they're like, oh my god, it's like some gossipy thing. And then it pans around the couch. And then there's like a chubby little kid eating ice cream, a little boy just listening to all of it intently. And they're like, is this you? Yes, it is. And it's still me at 50 years old just hanging out with my mom and her friends. Like, oh girl, tell me about so-and-so. Did she really kill her husband? What do you want? That's a fun time. Well, I love that you had. Happy hour with the canasta. The canasta, ladies. I

4:10went out board gaming last night. So yeah, you know, it's just as the weekend approaches, just leaning to the fun times, right? Yeah. So my cup is very filled. Yeah, ladies. So yeah, I think it's good over here. Actually, my cup really is very filled because what Bravo was good last night. And it's also, again, ladies of London, it's just like it's so tremendous. It's actually out of control how good ladies of London is, but the perk of Beverly Hills being good last night too. Got to play board games. I also, and I got my croissant. And I also published a new newsletter, new NBD fancies. So it's, it's a whole about salmon. The sexiest subject of all salmon. But I just, I did a thing where I listed my favorite salmon recipes because basically I made a salmon last week and I used the new recipe. And it was so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so good that I was like, I've got to give more love to salmon. But the miso honey glaze. It was the harissa. Oh, the harissa honey glaze

5:16from Clue Henry. I love me some Clue Henry. She has a new cookbook better at home. Y'all should get it. It's so far so good. But I was like, I got to write about salmon. And so, you know, because like sometimes, and the tie into Beverly Hills is that like a lot of times when I think about salmon, I think of this one video I saw. And I have not been able to find it again. But Lisa Vanderpump once did like a, like look at me cooking at home with Pandora video where Lisa and Pandora both made like very sad pieces of salmon together, which is like, it was like very, a perfectly, sure, perfectly fine. It was just like two sort of mildly pink species of salmon with like some sort of like white sauce on top and like herbs. And it's probably lovely. But it also felt like a very sad, boring luncheon. And it's like that image of Lisa and Pandey with their salmon. Their twin salmon has actually stayed with me so much. And I think it informs a lot

6:17about Lisa and Pandora. But I also think that like, that's what I, that's like, I'm like, when I think about salmon, I just think of like a sad luncheon. And I was like, you know what, there's more to life for salmon. Let's bring salmon back. Let's make salmon great again. Okay, people. It's a sample. I don't know how people are still making such boring salmon. It's like the only fish in the store that looks decent. Have you noticed that? Why does all the fish suck in the store? I know. I'm like, every place is I live both in LA and here. It's, it's like salmon's it. That's it. You can get other stuff. But it's always kind of gross. I mean, I don't eat the granted. I'm not that adventurous. I'll like have swordfish sometimes. But it's just seems mushy or I don't know. Salmon's like the thing. That's how you can get rid of it. It's all their farming. Salmon is the new it to quote Dr. Jackie. Yeah. We're going to make salmon sexy again. But anyway, so yeah, I wrote about that. So I'm like, really, very happy. So go check that out. And I put my mom's grove locks recipe in there, which is really great. So, you know, that's just a

7:19really shameless shill for my own newsletter, which well, that's true. Before we even did our crap. There's chilling. Yeah. So it's a good, well, no, our crap and chilling is done. So, you know, we have to show something. This is watch it crap. And so yeah, go go get your salmon sexy. Get your salmon in a thong. Get some spray. Get out there. It's hot salmon summer, y'all. So I was like, probably, I was like, Ronnie, I'm in a little bit of a rush today because I'm going to go do Julia Cunningham show after this. I was like, I'm a little bit on the rush. So like, okay, we're going to start early. Okay, let me talk for 10 minutes about salmon. Okay, here we are. Season 15, episode 15, 15, 15. Good luck, everybody. Stranded under the Tuscan sun. So the salmon left behind in Italy. A sad salmon in an abandoned church left behind by Drete in 10 feet tall hills. So shots of Florence, bird's eye view of the little villa.

8:20Man, this vacation is lasting a long time now. How many episodes? Yeah, but this is their last day. Their last day on vacation, right? Oh, good. Um, so villa, I mean, honestly, this vacation's gone on so long and has been so unaventful that literally the people of Italy have left. Like, they did a whole scene in an abandoned town. I mean, I was like the son of walking dead. I was waiting for like zombies to just suddenly appear and start eating everybody. What the fuck? It was so surreal. It clearly must have been a Sunday because Sundays in Europe, all the towns just like empty out. It's like everyone's like, don't go outside on a Sunday. Yeah, or it was like the set of real housewives of Dubai. You know how the whole town would empty out so they could shoot. They're like, we will not be on TV. It's illegal. Or whatever they're like, they just wouldn't come on TV. So everywhere they went was just like two people in this massive empty mall of a place. Um, so here we are. We're at Vina. Bibliani is the morning. Aren't you happy with the morning? The most exciting fucking guy, the most excited guy in the

9:22fucking world. Please just calm down. Okay. How seriously? It's too much energy. I don't want to wake up to that good morning. Shut up. Okay. I get it. You're Italian for Christ's sake. Just criticize my tomato sauce and go back to bed. Leave me alone. So Amanda wakes up and she wakes up in the most Amanda way. She like opens the curtains and she's like, she's auditioning to do the new song, new opening song for Summer House. So then poolside bows and Rachel are hanging out on lounge chairs. Rachel's in a full on calf tan and Bose is like, well, it's our last day in Tuscany. Let's live it up. She goes, yeah, I'm tanning. Um, you're in a full of calf tan. Your big toe is getting a tando. Oh my god. My big toe is such a nice tan. Yeah, but you don't understand my calf tan is getting tanned. It's like a thing. That's why it's called

10:24calf tan. It's not called a calf pale. This was white when I came out here. Now it's tan. So I'm dead. Yeah, I want to, I want a model or chias on how he should turn. Okay, it's important as a parent to model for your children. Carl, this is the kitchen where there's like, you know, the cast of down now be working. You just here. And um, she goes and she's like, I have a cover about her with like two shots. Fuck off. I love it. The kitchen, like semi-hates Kyle. So they shut up. Goodbye, Kyle. I'm a Riva Darcy Kyle. Okay. Meanwhile, up in the Peter Pan bedroom, where Wendy and all the children are sleeping, Amanda and Sutton are in their twin beds. And they are talking. And Amanda's like, I think we're supposed to go grape stomping today. And Sutton's like, yeah, I've got to, I've got to stop something out, you know, because last dinner was a little, last night's dinner was a little weird. How did

11:25you feel about it? Isn't it strange? And that'll actually said something. My subtle turn into the conversation. Well, I've got to stop something out. Okay. Um, when that's not weird, aren't you mad about it? Well, I mean, last night felt good. It feels good to be strong. And I think it feels true to myself. Okay. Well, you were talking finally. So that's good. But listen, I got to say something. It's been sitting on me. Okay. Sort of a confession on myself as well. Okay. Because yesterday in the car on the way back from Florence, Erica got at her phone and she did that chat thing. GMPT. Yeah. And she stopped her name into it. She would come out and she read it out loud. And there were snippets of not great reviews. I mean, that just felt mean-spirited to me. It was mean. Chat GPT. Oh, God Sutton. Do some things, Sutton. This is what you're going to do. This is what you're going to put it all on. You've had, you've had a nothing of a year. And this is what you're going to put all of your chips on. Is an Amanda fight? No. You're not the wrong horse. You throw everyone into the bus for chat GPT.

12:28By the way, how do you not know that everyone, all those things weren't like hallucinating? You know, I, um, not talk about like that chat GPT, you know, and, you know, and like AI gets wrong. They call it hallucinating because it thinks that it like will give you an answer. And then you'll be like, is that true? It'll be like, no. But, um, not to bring it back to the salmon situation, but when I was writing, when I was writing my thing, I, I like made a decorative statement that like salmon is so good. I mean, it even has its own color. Like, what other fish can say that? And then I thought, oh, like, what if there is another fish that has a color? So I asked, I asked AI, and I was like, um, does, are there any other fish colors? And they're like, well, maybe they're like tuna and herring. I was like, really? I said, tuna is a color that, yes, tuna is a color. I said, I never heard of that. I go, I never heard of tuna as a color as a shade of color. And then AI goes, you're right. I think I made that up. I was like, are you a real housewife?

13:29You know, the chat GPT that says that and Craig uses chat GPT for therapy, but we can't get Craig to say that. So maybe, maybe the evolution will get trouble. It's just so, it's just so eager to please. It's like, uh, yeah, tuna is a color. It's always a color. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, you totally have the right instinct. Are you sure? No. Tuna is not a color. So stupid. I'm wearing a tuna colored shirt. That's what you mean, though. Salmon is like literally a color. I'm dumb. I was like, pink. Instacart makes grocery shopping easier. And just because you're not doing the shopping yourself doesn't mean you don't care how it's done. With Instacart's shopper notes, you can get particular about what you want right in the app, like rotisserie chicken that's extra crispy, steak with marbling. The Romans would have loved and let us you'd actually pick yourself. Just leave a note for your shopper so that they can get it right for you without having to ask. That way, you can get groceries just how you like. Download the Instacart app and

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15:40flashback of, you know, Erica and Bose looking up stuff and something being like, don't do that. That's not nice. So then she she tells Amanda. And then what happened next is Bose got out her phone. And then we see Bose is reading the reviews about her, which is like, who is Bosma St. John? Bosma St. John started her marketing journey at Spike Lee's agency and joined Pepsi Cola in 2005, working with superstars like Beyonce and making tuna a very popular color. Right a second chat GPT. That's not true. Probably not. Okay, bro. I'm just reading this. I'm just reading this to make a comparison. We just renamed chat GPT to sue the lady who just wants to fit in. I just was I got excited. I'm sorry. Sorry. You know what? I was trying to compete with chat GPT. It's just me, Sue. All right. That's not a color. You got me. Hey, what is the what is the arch in St.

16:40Louis? It's a spaceship. It's a spaceship. It took the first monkey to space. And it built the first mile in Wethahatchee. Is that true? No, gosh. I just I get excited sometimes. And I just I just want to say something. So yeah, I just want to fit in. Just for once, I would like someone to say, Hey, Sue. You know, that's Siri or Alexa. God, they get all this fun. You know, what about Hey, Sue? Yeah. No one asked me anything. Speaking of they changed the voice on the Alexa. I'm I'm sorry. I'm saying your name. No, I know it says this or not. I'm sorry. Every set or everybody's thing off, but they changed it on her. And I have my light set. So if I say like code things, it talks back to me and then does what I say, right? Because I'm single and I have no life. And so this is what I do. This is what I do for company. I program my my virtual assistant to talk to me. So like in the middle of the night, I wake up to pee. So I say, Hey, Sue, I got a

17:41pee. And then she says Jesus Christ, man, you know, like I better go. Jesus Christ, man. Well, the new one goes, Jesus Christ, man, started laughing so hard last. It's the it's so funny with like with Sue and then and then the Apple version of Sue, like every time there's like a software update, they kind of change their inflection. They like evolve their inflections. And it's so funny that how they will randomly show extreme emotion and then just go back to being robot voices. It's so good because they haven't they haven't put it across all of those selections yet. So yeah, you're right. Some of it'll be like, you know, Jesus Christ, man. And then it'll be like, it is six o'clock in the morning. You know, it hasn't got them totally in there yet. Yeah. Absolutely. Apple Sue or what do we used to call it? Was it Pat? Some like that. Forget her name. We've had a few names for her. But I like, yeah, I like this. I like this. I like Sue. Sue is our AI. But I tell her what I'm hot at night to turn on the fan.

18:46I go, hey, Sue, I'm hot. And she normally goes, yeah, you are, you know, but now she goes, yeah, you are. She just got divorced. And it's like, I don't know if they've heard if they're like listening to your voice because one time I went in and I saw on Reddit or something like they're recording everything that you say, right? And so you can go in and you can find the recordings of yourself. Like, and they're little snippets where it's catching you thinking that maybe you're saying something it needs to hear, you know, and the recordings of me are just crazy walking around my house, talking to my dog, just the things I say to myself in different housewives. Well, I mean, I'm literally crazy. I didn't know until I listen to all of these recordings. It's me walking around like, darling, put the past me over your head. Please, I've company coming over, you know, stuff like that. You're all in there. So I was like, are they listening to that? And they're like, oh, some queen loops there. So just to make it sassy. Like, yeah, you are, girl.

19:48Mine does not sass me, but I do find that the apple sue will like certain words like, wow, it'll get really excited about, you know, if I'm like, that's really interesting. Wow. Thanks for telling me. You need to make it do the Padma. Wow. I need to have Padma voice. I think actually I got a new laptop and it was like, it was, you know, you have to set up your Siri voice. And I don't like that the default voice is not like the classic one. Now it's like, it's like a California dude. It's like, hey, what's going on? How can I help you today? I'm like, get the fuck out of your bro. I need a lady. I need a lady who seems like she might be slightly bureaucratic. Yeah, I did that to you the first time they put a man up there because he's like, make a left. I was like, fuck you. I didn't invite my car to fuck out of here. I only spent that with a patriarchy. I want you to be like, make a left. Really? I thought it was to the right.

20:49You're right. I don't know where I am. I just was grateful to be tacked too. I really don't know where we are. I don't read maps. I get turned around so easily. Here we go. All right. So the clip was Bose reading her own chat GBT description now, which of course is glowing and Amanda sucked. And so, um, the sentence like, well, I mean, both is very impressive. You know, I mean, Pepsi, Coa, that is something else. Sparkly. Wow. Wow. But, you know, I said, you know, Bose, we know what you do. And she said, oh, I just want to compare, you know. And so Amanda is like, uh, like her mouth just opens. And it works like she gets pissy. And so the producer asks Amanda why she thinks Bose was trying to compare. And she's like, because her digital course doesn't make money and might make some millions of dollars. Well, I just want you to know, I'm on your side.

21:52And by, I'm your side, I'm using you to agitate the other women. Okay. Right. She goes, by your side, I mean, co-side, who was for some reason decided to fight for you because you don't like to read. Okay. It's, it's weak. But you know what? It's all of God. So. Thank you. Oh, look here. Like I look at what it says entrepreneur and mindset coach. So rise to success. Audience and I eat a hundred and five countries. Chat GBT is going on and on about how great I am. So did she just like type in bad reviews of Amanda Francis? Because that would be really shitty. Sue says I'm amazing. You know, and are they trying to build like a scam artist case against me? I'm like, I don't think they have to build it. I think they just have to go to your website for them for that. Okay. If $1500 for one of your manifestation courses. Yeah. There's nothing as mean as what they read or like is, I don't know mean that word. That's a Kyle word. But there's nothing as terrible as what they read. I'm seeing Amanda Francis is

22:54a self-described money queen. I think that's the shadiest part. A self-described money queen and personal development coach known for her work around mindset and manifestation. She's built a large following, particularly on Instagram and runs an online business focused on helping people. Primarily women change their beliefs around money and abundance. So that's not bad. So that was what they say. It's clawed. Oh, damn it. I just thought I guess I would have to use chat GPT, right? You know, if you're going to make it equal, people get mad when we use that stuff though. But you know what? Get mad. You know what? I get it. I get it. I'm looking. Well, you know, I typed in who is a man to France. What was your question? What did you ask? Who is Amanda Francis? So I have the same thing basically. Amanda Francis is a self-described money manifestation coach on entrepreneur. Yeah. There is a thing down at the bottom that says controversy criticism. I mean, it's after a lot of other stuff that's like, you know, her niche, her background, media presence became more widely known in pop culture for real housewives. Okay,

24:00then controversy. Some people question or criticize her business model selling high-priced mindset manifestation courses while others say her technique, her teachings have helped them. So that's not that bad. Here's a mind that mind dragged me into this. It says that it has like different like paragraphs. It says drama. She's explained to pass cult experience on the show and has friction with the reach who apparently tried to use cult history as quote unquote dirt against her. She's also feuding with the selling sunset cast after throwing shade at them in an interview. Basically, very much in your wheelhouse as a WC person, she's one of the more polarizing new housewives this season. I was like, I'm not asking for recommendations, AI. And it's not about love. If she's in the wheelhouse for water crap. I don't know. She was feuding with selling sunset for divina. She was on and she threw divina rights and fire. That's right. She was on that show. And it's a it's a pretty good fight. Actually, divina's like, whatever you'd never, you were just using me to be on TV. You had already sold that house anyway. You know,

25:02yeah, you know, always. Yeah. So now I looked up Bose and it says, um, high business, high profile business exec author and TV personality career, why she's famous Netflix, Apple, Uber Pepsi, um, named her personality and influence and branding. Um, it doesn't say, and it doesn't have a controversy tab. So I don't know where Amanda found hers. I think they were both googling like, what's the controversy about whatever or like, why does Amanda Francis suck? Let me ask it that. Why? Why does Amanda Francis suck? Oh, it says I have to log in or sign or log in or sign for free. I'm not wasted enough water today. I'm sorry. You're gonna have to pay $1,500 for one of my courses to find out why I suck. So Amanda is funny. This is what it says. It's not really accurate to say she objectively sucks, but there are some common reasons people

26:02criticize Amanda Francis. Why just told me just told me off. How about this? Why is Amanda Francis the worst? Let's see what it says. Expensive courses with vague outcomes, heavy emphasis on manifestation, get rich messaging, business model concerns, polarizing personality, um, abrasive overly self-promotional on the flip side. They're more, they're more positive, you know, so. Okay. Claude is trying to be like, is trying to have a key key with me. But I said, why is Amanda Francis the worst? It goes, oh, this is very much a season 15 R.H.O.B.H. thing. Exhibition point. You're watching I take it? No, I'm like, you have gay guys too. I love it. You have my life. I'm like, hey, girl. Yeah, you are. At the end, it does this whole thing and then the end it goes, are you caught up on the season or just tipping in? Because there's a whole Pinocchio mask apology subplot from Bose that is extremely unhinged. That's so good. Okay. This one says, I wouldn't, I wouldn't,

27:05I wouldn't, I wouldn't, why does Bose suck? And it's just to be fair, you know, and it says, I wouldn't frame it as she sucks. But like most other visible leaders, Bose gets a mix of praise and criticism, big personality, polarizing style, attention seeking, overly performative, high profile roles, short tenure, tenures. She's worked at major companies like Netflix and Uber, critics point that certain companies weren't very long and they question how much long-term impact she had. She's very visible in speaking, blah, blah, blah. Some people in corporate circles argue that this level of visibility can overshadow the less glamorous day-to-day execution work. I mean, I don't know. Neither one of them are too bad. I, I have to say like at the cocktail party, I'm the one having, I'm in like the fun conversation and you're stuck talking to like a really born person and I'm trying to fly you over to come over to talk to my new friend. Your AI is so much more boring than mine. Mine is like, oh, it is. It is. Wow. Mine sucks. You're like,

28:05well, let me girl have a seat. It really is. I said, tell me about both. Let's just, let's see what little pattern it tries to try to like connect with me about as it like, it's going to be like girlfriend. Oh, no. Now it's being boring again. Never mind. It's not being boring with me. Anyway, I guess the point of this science fair was to prove that there were both googling like, why is Boza bitch? And why is Amanda a fraud, you know? So she, Amanda reads her version. And she's like, um, thank you because here it is, entrepreneur, mind tech coach, a rise to success, audience in 185 countries, chat TVT is going on and on about how great I am. So did she just type bad reviews of Amanda Francis? Because that would be shitty. I think they're trying to build like a scam artist case against me or something. And then she's like, cause if they are, where's the scam? I have very happy clients. What do people think they're making a point when they do that when they clap in your face? You sound like a child is trying to

29:08be taught the alphabet. Stop it. Stop clapping in my face. Yeah. Well, of course, you have very happy clients because if they're unhappy, they wouldn't be your clients anymore. So, you know, just want to point that out. So you probably have several ex clients that are like, I just spent $1,500 learning how to manifest and they got me no more money. So sudden's like, yeah, of course, you wouldn't have a business. You know, Amanda doesn't have a bad bone in her body. I know we all think she's trying to show off. But when our bedroom door is shut, she is still talking about her business like still like she really loves her business like a lot. I'm like, what does that have to do with her having a bad bone in her body? Amanda's like, my book was number 19 out of 14 million books when it came out on Amazon. It's fucking shitty that they want to play this game with me like, this is my livelihood. This is how I support my children. They know I'm the breadwinner. I'm like,

30:11guess what? This is their livelihood is shooting on other people in their cast. Get with it. That's true. But I love it when she always pulls it around to a victim thing like, the boy, my children, you know, I'm married to a poor person. I'm married to a poor, poor person. I'm like, she gets a bad win big in there. Yeah. Yeah. I'm shocked. I'm the cucumber chip winner. I am shocked that Bose is acting like she wants to make progress with me, but I don't think that's true. I think she's just speculating behind my back and it's mean spirited. It's hurtful and it's got to end. Okay. Well, really put the shoe down there. Yeah. I think it is mean. I think the other ladies are being mean to Amanda. I have to say, like I watch it and I'm like, this isn't very becoming like really what has Amanda done to you guys. She's done nothing like no matter

31:11really has not done anything. She's annoying. I mean, I give her that. I think she's annoying as fuck as well. And I mean to prove it, Sutton is trying to be on Amanda's side, right? She's like, I'm going to sleep in Amanda's room. I'm going to become friends with her. I'm going to get her against Dorit just like Kyle wants. This is going to go great. And even Sutton can't make it through one scene without being like, well, she didn't have bad bone in her body, but God, she's annoying. She won't shut up about her business, you know, Sutton can't even do it. She can't even fake. So yes, she's annoying, but she hasn't done anything to these people. And they're being really mean, you know, and I think that if somebody was googling Bose's stuff, she would be not happy about it. I know if they were googling Dorit shit or anybody else's shit, they'd be like, how dare you. I'm supporting my children. Yeah. I mean, I agree that none of them would really hold up with us with us in a nice Google search. I mean, Erica, hello, but that being said, I can't, yeah, yeah, they're being mean. I'm not going to deny that they

32:11are being mean, but where I am going to push back slightly is you have this person coming on who is being super annoying and super braggie. And it's like, okay, fine. And they put it up with it. They put up with it for a while, but it does kind of feel like she's a con artist. And it's kind of like you're going to come on to our show and like promote this kind of like, but feels kind of like a fire festival situation. And like we have to co-sign it and be like, like, I don't think people want to be part of that. And it's like, like something, like something is fishy going on with this girl. And like, and I don't want to be complicit with it. So I, I kind of get the, I get the looking up stuff. I get that. I think where it's like, it sort of falls apart is where it was the same energy with all the other fishness that is sort of lurking. I mean, Derees have never had one business. It's made any sense, you know, what about Kyle's businesses that have all been disasters and her shows that have been on for one episode or one season or whatever. So they could do this

33:14with everybody. I think, I think I just prefer the style of someone like Rachel, who's just like quietly disgusted and makes little comments here and there. I think that that's hilarious. And I don't think she's being mean, you know, I don't think, you know, like, the sitting around, it's just hard to root for people when they're like, obviously, I like housewives. So I'm not averse to people being mean. It's just the way they're doing it is just, I don't like it. I don't like it. It runs me the wrong way. Now that said, then it comes to Amanda and she, her defensive herself is so annoying that I'm back on the other side and like five minutes. I'm back on the other side again. But it's not, yeah, it's kind of her reaction to things. You know, we've talked about this before. Like it's your reaction to things on these shows. People can be mean whatever is how you react that makes you a good housewife or a bad housewife. If you're really funny and you're really bitchy back or you get them back in some way, that means you're a good housewife. If you whine and cry and then start telling me your stats of your website, I'm just, I can't be on your site either. Yeah, exactly. I really thought Amanda was going to be someone who came in this season

34:17and just like called people out on the ship like these people are idiots and they're clicky and blah, blah, blah, blah. I make money. Yeah, like, yeah, I do con people, but that's what I, that's the American dream I figured it out. And like if people want to give me money, then so fine. I'm going to, I'm like, I thought she would just be a little bit more bad ass, bitch, boss, bitch. But she's actually just like this annoying nat. And again, I do appreciate that she annoys everyone that her nattiness does like, you know, like it does do the nat thing. But yeah, but it's just, but she also annoys me as well. Yeah. So it's like I have a hard time like being full like really on her side. Like I kind of get why the women are exasperated by her because she's just so annoying all the time. Yeah, they just need better fodder I think than this because it's old. And it's it's episode 15 like move it, move it along, you know, and I agree with you. I thought she was going to be better because in that monologue that they showed when she was like, oh really?

35:21Well, they're they're mad at me because like they don't have a life and then and then she just said that whole big long things. So funny. That was really funny. And they were showing that in the previews. And so I was thinking, oh, this is who we're going to get. But then we didn't, you know, we didn't we didn't get that. We I guess we should have manifested harder if only we'd taken some courses. Here's how to stay alive longer. So you can enjoy boost mobiles unlimited plan with the price that never goes up. You're not mistaken. Wasp nest for a piñata. Stay alive and switch now at boost mobile after 30 gigs customers may experience lower speeds customers will pay $25 a month as long as they remain active on the boost mobile unlimited plan. Hey y'all, it's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair where delivery and setup are as easy as a few taps on your phone. Picture this. You're relaxing in an old hammock, scrolling Wayfair's app when you spot it, a brand new patio set. Next thing you know, Wayfair delivers it right to your patio and sets it up. Oh, you need a new girl too. All right, Wayfair's

36:24got you covered with Wayfair's room of choice delivery and fast experts set up on qualifying orders. Life gets a little easier. Visit Wayfair.com or the Wayfair app. Wayfair every style every home. So now Amanda's like, how am I supposed to go windstop scraping with bulls like, how's that? How am I not supposed to say anything? Well, I don't know. Maybe you should talk, you know, from a good place. Like, okay, what way to set that up, uh, sudden, then downstairs, Erica is walking around the dining room and Kyle Caesar and she's like, oh my god, I'm ordering my second coffee. It's like I'm pretending like I'm shopping. I'm shopping for coffee. I could shop anywhere, even in the kitchen. I need a coffee. I went to bed at like five in the morning. I never do that anymore. I never do that anymore. Well, I never eat the middle of the night, but I was scratching like a little burglar. And Kathy comes in and she's dressed to go and they're like, where are you going? She's like, I just need to go shop for an hour and look around. Please, leave me alone. I can't take off. She's like, please, I want a fan.

37:31She's like, I'm just going to find a decent fan. Well, I can't believe like last night, you know, oh yeah, you called Natalie a liar. Yeah. Well, I mean, if the shoe fits, uh-huh, then I'm gonna buy it. I love to shop, huh? And then we see Natalie, um, sit down at the pool and we go back to Kyle and, um, you know, Kyle is talking about how like the truth is, I have like Natalie all along, but if Amanda and the cameras had not been there yesterday, it would have been my word against hers. And who knows what people would think. No, sorry, I don't play that game. I'm sorry. I don't. Well, first of all, I also, it often is your word against someone else's, but second of all, I'm not really tracking this situation with a lie. Again, like Natalie said, when Amanda said, I heard Bose say my name and Natalie's like, yeah, yeah, I think Bose said it as a joke. And then when they Kyle somehow confronted, um, uh, Natalie at the dinner the last night and Natalie walked something back, but what did Natalie

38:31actually walk back? I just, it was so small. I didn't understand why it became such a big. Because Kyle was saying you heard the thing that you heard the thing that Bose said about Natalie, right? Or about, uh, God damn it. We're, we're getting old. You heard the thing that Natalie said about her, right? About a man. You heard the thing that she said, first she said, yes, but it was a joke. Then they get to the dinner and Amanda's like, well, Natalie heard it and now it's like, no, I'm just, I guess you did. You said you did. She goes, no, I didn't. She's like, yes, you did. You said you heard what she said. Why aren't you saying? She's like, no, don't drag me into this. You've been doing it all all year and I'm not having it. I'm just like, no, but you're a liar. And Natalie actually apologized on Instagram this week. It was too boring to remember the whole thing. It was too boring to even screenshot. Like I screen shot at it and then my phone just erased it. It was like, ah, but it was something like, yeah, I have to take ownership. That was bullshit. I should have just owned it or something like that. So she even admits to it. I don't know what Natalie was doing. I think Natalie was just like, I'm not jumping on Kyle's side.

39:32She was like, I'm not, well, I don't think that Natalie likes Kyle either by the way. I don't think any of these people like Kyle. And this episode is why it's my favorite of the season because finally Kyle is, they're starting to turn and see what Kyle is doing. She's so ham-handed. So when she says, oh, really? Well, the cameras catch it. You don't think the cameras are going to catch it. I don't play that game really because you're trying to play that game this whole episode and tell everybody what they've said and what they're thinking and the cameras all have it that they're not saying or thinking what you're saying they're thinking. So it's kind of fun to watch Kyle get caught in her own ointment. But also it's like, okay, so Natalie walks back that she overheard it for whatever reason. You know, it's, I don't know why she really did. It doesn't really make sense. But now Kyle is like, she is a liar. Like, she's lying. And that's why I called her a liar. I was like, yeah, she did lie. But also like, it's like the lie is about the backup. Like, you were, you, you wanted, you were calling upon Natalie to back up the story

40:36that, um, that, that bows made this joke. I don't know. Like, it's, it's not like, it's not like Natalie's lie. Was it the center of a major controversy? And it wasn't like the crux of a controversy. It's like, you're fighting with them extra. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, it's like, you were calling on Natalie to back you up to, so that way people could be mad at bows. And Natalie was like, yeah, I don't want to be part of this essentially. And so she just would like, take yourself out of it. And Kyle is, yeah, if I were Kyle, I would be annoyed for sure. But Kyle is acting like this was, you know, some sort of epic case that she's worked on for nine years. And they finally get to the courthouse. And it's the star witness and the star witness just like backs out of the testimony. Like, this was like, I don't want to stand up for Natalie, because Natalie's kind of a non entity. Like, I don't hate her. I don't like her. She's just, you know, like oatmeal without anything in it. She's done it for like, yeah. But, uh, I don't want to stand up for her. But just to point out what a hypocrite fucking Kyle is, she's like,

41:37liar, liar. She lied. So she's a liar. This and that. Oh, really Kyle? Well, how is your breakup with Morgan going with that house that you just bought in Nashville and the comments on her Instagram and that you guys being spotted together all day. I'm gonna get the fuck out of here. You do nothing but lie. Your whole 10 year here is a lie. So your whole season is a lie with your sad sack of breakup. Get the fuck out of here, Kyle. So, Kathy's like, well, um, are you sure of that? Cause liar is a very strong word. It's very, very strong. She's like, Kathy, I'm your sister. And I'm telling you, she told me something in the mouth. My she changed her word. So do you believe me? Are you going to believe the person you just met? She's like, oh, okay. I guess I'll go with you. Okay. Why is Kyle so invested in this Amanda situation? This is Amanda's fight to have. Amanda's fight is to say, I heard like Bose, you like, like Natalie said, like who is the the, like who would be the Pinocchio in our group? And Bose, you said Amanda. Why is Kyle getting into a tizzy and calling upon Natalie to, uh, be a character witness in this moment? Like, why

42:42it's because I think it's because Kyle is trying to do what she always does, which is rally the troops, get them to go guess who she wants and get rid of them. In this case, it's Duret. She really is like sick of Duret shit and she wants to get rid of Duret. So she's getting people to go against her. She got Amanda to go against her and now no one will back her up and their Amanda's a huge fail. And Kyle's like losing her grip. She's losing her grip. Nobody cares what Kyle's trying to do. Nobody cares about Amanda. They're like, I'm not going to be friends with Amanda just to get rid of Duret. We like Duret. Everyone else likes Duret and Kyle's losing it. She's losing her grip. And I think she's starting to freak out because this episode she is freaking out. She really is. Although are they enough? This is like my favorite Kyle episode of the season two because it's real Kyle. Like I love it when Kyle goes off on someone. She's like, she flips her mind at the end of the episode. And that was like season one Kyle. And I says every single year, that's my favorite version of Kyle where she is like a flawed hero. She's like trying to do, she's like, she's like, she tries to be relatable, but she just like she, she bubbles with rage.

43:46And that was like my favorite version. And it's more when she's like, well, I feel bad or whatever. And then she's like manipulating people and then accusing people of not being honest when she herself is not being honest. Like that's the worst version of Kyle. But Kyle just like calling someone out on their shit and getting really angry about it. Even if I'm not on her side, because I'm not on her side, I still like that version of Kyle a whole lot more. So and this is what that was her, this is the dish rag that works. You know, well, it's like a group versus rag. Yeah. Instead of like one of those dish rags, it doesn't stop up any water. You're like, why did I buy this dish rag? So Kyle's like, can I say something else? I'm like, you're the only one who has been saying something else is to read came in late. And then she just left. Oh, well, you know, but and men don't like that, by the way, Conrad Hilton couldn't deal with Jaja Gaborney more. It was too much. And you could see the both like, okay, let's humor, Kathy and pretend like we care about this, Erica. Oh, she was always late. Is that what it was? Is that is that what it was? Like they've been sitting here pondering what happened between

44:48Jaja and Conrad. Oh, is that what it was? On the top, we thought it was something else. Maybe it was cheating. Oh, yeah, she was just constantly getting ready and he couldn't take it anymore. It's just left. Oh, well, she was a lot of it. Jesus Christ. Jaja. All right. All right. Yeah, I really like Jaja until she slept that police officer. And I said, you do not know what I don't know. How old was Jaja Gabor when she slept that police officer? 23 years old. Are you sure about that, Sue? No, I made that up. I got nervous. My name anyway, I told you, you're gonna be anxiety. All right. I just want you to be here and be part of the conversation. I don't want you to be late. The conversation is fascinating. We're talking about how matters truthful and everybody else sucks. Come on, do we? And even when she's here, she's texting all the time. And we see footage of Doreet texting.

45:48And Kyle's like, Doreet has been acting so weird lately. She's either late or always on her phone. And I'm worried about her. And I want to help her get to the bottom of this. And yeah, by the way, 100% like a friend is going through a divorce. It's rough. They start showing up late. They're more distracted. They're on their phone. 100% like I think we've been there with people who've gone through things and you see that. And of course, you're alarmed. But just again, it's hard to hear it from Kyle because what Kyle, how Kyle changed and she changed so significantly during her situation with Mauricio and then all of a sudden Morgan Wade. And in fact, no one was allowed to discuss it. And how dare you ask me about this. And now she wants to go on like a spiritual witch hunt with Doreet. It's like, no, Kyle, just you're just not the right messenger for this. And another point to just add on to that is that Doreet has always been late and Doreet has always only been on her phone. That has been the complaint about Doreet for 10 fucking years. This is that Doreet is late everywhere and all she does, like she was literally late to do that

46:52Instagram thing where she was leaning up against the window, taking pictures of herself in glam. You know, that's always been the fight against Doreet. It's not she's not insane for being late. She's a rude asshole for being late. Doreet is a complete inconsiderate rude asshole of a human being. And if this fight was about Doreet being rude and late and late all the time and making everyone wait, then yeah, I would be 100% behind it. But it's not. It's Kyle trying to make it sound like that's some new thing. And at that point, it's just psychosis and she's on, she's clearly on PK side behind the scenes. And she's trying to build a case against Doreet because she's fighting with Doreet in a divorce and it's just gross. It's not good. It's not good girl code to be doing that. And it's just fucking gross behavior by Kyle. And so I can't get behind any of it, even though she's completely right that Doreet is an asshole by being late all the time. But she's not right about it pointing to some kind of psychosis. Like Doreet has always spent money. She doesn't have. She's always been late and she's always been self obsessed and on her phone. And you were fine with all of that when you were using her as a weapon. But now that she's your enemy,

47:54you're going to point to it like she needs to be locked up and given a lobotomy. So Kyle. Yeah. So now it's time for our activities for the day. The women are going to be some are going to go to be in a bike group and go grape stomping and some are going to and then Yerika and Kyle and Doreet will be eventually going to an empty ghost town in Italy. So there are all these bikes that are laid out and both like who wants to ride bikes? And everyone's like, no, Amanda says yes. We're just like, not a chance in hell. Like I just tanned this caftan. Like I'm not going to get it dirty. No, thank you. The only kind of bike I would ride is an e-bike just to impress Kai Kai. But I'm not going to do it because I won't let the guys drive fun. So no, I'm not going to do it. So some of them do that. Meanwhile, Jennifer is in the pool naked. And she's like, or no, she's talking about how she went to the pool to do her photo shoot naked under the water.

48:55And she's just like, oh, this is me taking a first trap for that with a pool, pool water, something else just yapping her head off to the photographer. She's like, Jesus. And there's like one shot where she's like, she's just in there. She has, first she has both her, while she has her like hands around her boobies. And then she's like under the water sort of like covering, but then she's taking her one hand and she's just slapping the water. She's she's having the best time in other words, birds being killed, birds being shot. So then we go back to villa, be be on me. Well, Kyle and Eric are still waiting for to eat. And Kyle's like, oh my god, do we, do we ask over how much longer? I mean, this is crazy. Maybe she should just meet us there. I mean, oh my god, should we, should we have a white van show up? Now, let, let me say this. I mean, we pretty much just said this, but let me say it. Some, let me emphasize something like it's really, it really is rude and annoying to have to wait for someone. I wait for someone for like a very long time, you know, like a very long time,

49:59which is what happens with the read. It's honestly 10 times worse when you're on vacation, because there's that sense of urgency. Like, we don't have much time. We want to maximize, we want to see things. And like, if you're just like sitting around your like old villa, waiting, and especially when other people have already left and started adventures for the day, and you're just sitting there waiting and waiting and waiting, honestly, I would be seeing red. That's for sure. Yeah, it's rude. So to read, of course, it is not even ready yet. We cut to treat she's in her bathrobe. She's like, where am I past this? So she's like, Kyle has been talking shit to everyone in the group behind my back about how I'm a retic. Do you really think I want to go to sing and grab it? Not really, but maybe this is coil trying to extend an older branch. And maybe she wants to apologize. Maybe G G. Do I really want to get gelato with these women? I don't think so.

50:59So Kyle's like, I'm not going to lie. I'm getting like really antsy. Yeah, everybody left, but us. So then we see Amanda Bose and Natalie riding along to the winery. And Amanda's like, this is so fun. It's like so pretty. And Natalie's like, so I'm just going to regret not doing this. She would have crushed it. What was that, Natalie? I didn't say anything. What are you talking about? Sexy. So in the car, Sutton is talking to Rachel and Jennifer. And Rachel's like, yeah, I thought you read, but like, honestly, I was like, said quiet after last night. Like, there was so much happening. I just felt like a spectator. I felt like like a spectator. I was like, vulnerable. I was so vulnerable. Yeah. Well, it's nice to quiet. Yeah. It was like a sweeping circus. I thought like like front row seats to NASCAR. And then the bikers arrive at the vineyard and Bose is sweaty. And she's like, in the movies, you see people riding bikes in Europe to open fields and it's glamorous. But in real life, it's not that at all. And it's too

52:02sweaty. And also Amanda Francis is with you. That's just not the same as a live Tyler. So then we get to go wine stomping. I'm bored. I hate to shit. So then we go, the other wine stomping. Jennifer's like, I'm excited to stop grapes. But you know, and maybe I'll put this on my special skills on my resume. And Stephanie was there. And he's like, we are going to stop a grapes. Oh my God. You're even here. Rachel's like, I don't stop grapes. I drink grapes. I don't like squishy things or feet. And it involves like, if it involves taking my heels, I'm already uncomfortable with that. Like, Zand would never. Like, could you imagine going all the way to Montauk? And like Zand says, let's go grape stomping. Like it would never happen. Like it's disgusting. So they have to do it, basically. And like, coming on, it's slimy. It's squishy. It's what. So then Sutton and Bose are talking.

53:02Oh, well, they're kind of gathering in a circle all the ladies. And they're comparing notes. Like, how's the bike ride? How's grape stomping? So Sutton's like, well, we had an interesting car ride. We talked about last night. Now he's like, I felt like last night was playing tennis against someone more skilled than me. You play tennis? What? Why were you talking about tennis? I never talked about tennis. You just said you played tennis. So Natalie, don't do this to me. You've been doing it all year. I'm just confused why if Amanda believes I confirmed that I heard the mask comment. Why am I being called a liar? So that's the thing, by the way, I seem to remember in the episode that Natalie did confirm something. You know, I don't even know. I don't know, I don't even care. So Sutton goes, well, you didn't seem to have a secure answer about the mass thing with Amanda. It was funny, but like, I didn't know how that was considered a joke, really. And then Natalie, you were called a liar. But I found it interesting that Bose wasn't

54:03called a liar. Isn't that so interesting, Bose? Bose, like Amanda called me a liar. Yeah, but like, she has like more of a reputation in the group. So no one's just going to jump in and say Bose is a liar, right? Well, Bose has a commanding presence. So it's easy for people just to fall in line. But that doesn't mean we should just ignore, we should just ignore questioning things that people do. You still have a question. You still have to question them. If not, that can be a very dangerous type of relationship. And if you're not going to question them, what you do is you set up a younger, more vulnerable person to ask the questions for you. That's what you really do. Because one thing Sutton loves is being questioned. I like that sense. Like, everybody's going to be questioned. Oh, really? How's your story doing? I'm very you. So back to the vineyard, Amanda is like, so do not think you said it, Bose. They're about the mask. And she's like, no, I do not believe I said it. And my point is that in the best interest of friendship, if you have something to say, you stand up business and you say it, which I'm not doing because I refuse to say to let call to Pinocchio.

55:07I stand on the multi-million dollar business though when I say things. I do think that we have a bigger thing to talk about. Like, why are we huge? Why are we people trying to find out things about me on chat GBT? Oh, because our friendship, our question was, who is Amanda Francis? Oh, and why? But why? But why did you do that? The question is like, why are you trying to find things out? Because we asked who is Amanda Francis? Yeah. Well, you said that your the money queen and then a bunch of criticism about you. Okay. But like, I don't know what you want to know about my business. But according to the stats, just the general stats that are around according to just stats in general, like, by the way, I just want to remind me while I'm doing this monologue, not to forget to clap. Oh, yeah. Okay. But according to the stats, 80% of people who buy one of my courses buy a second course because it's part of a three course pack. And I have

56:14less than a 3% refund rate on my courses, which is unheard of in my industry. And that is a very, very low amount of people wanting a refund on digital. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You're just so boring. Nobody cares. This isn't the point. Oh, my gosh. So everybody, we're looking at setting Amanda's faces and such. It's just like, Oh, my God. I'm really sticking up for this person. And Rachel's like, why do we have to do this in the vineyard? Like, it feels like the wrong vibe. Like my toes, just like my toes are a different color now. Like, this is disgusting. What are we doing this here? Dead. This is Rachel. Speak for shut the fuck up. Yeah. What? It feels like the wrong vibe. Yeah. Okay. Here's the thing, Amanda. You are defending your business versus telling us what you actually do. But like, who wouldn't be defensive about their livelihood and how they came to like, how they support themselves and if like, how they came up in the world was in question.

57:15Like, who would question somebody who's just like trying to help needy hot straight men who don't understand jobs? Yeah. Well, you can counter it by actually saying what's at the heart of it. When you jump right to defense, obviously, people are going to want to come back with an attack. The root of Amanda's defensiveness is her insecurity because if she actually felt secure in her business and her life, then whenever those things are criticized, she'll be able to defend it without getting any flustered or angry. So, Amanda, the thing is, I don't understand why Amanda's annoyed obviously, but I don't really understand Bose's point here. She's like, well, we don't understand what your business is, but we don't know what it is. Who cares? Like, what does anyone care? I wish they would just say, Amanda, you're annoying and all you do is talk about your business and you come off as insecure instead of saying in all of these roundabout ways. Bose is so direct. We're not even doing that. Yeah, they're not even doing it in the roundabout way. They're trying to add

58:16this is what we said last week. They're actually trying to add a lofty, you know, I don't know the right words to say for it, but like, they're trying to make it seem actually more than it is, be like, we want to know about you. We want to know the heart of the business. No, you are annoyed and you looked it up because you're like, what you just said, Ronnie, you're fucking annoying and we looked up your shit because we find you're really annoying. Just say that. You know, we think you're annoying. Sorry. I know you can't really say that, but this roundabout way of like, but we really want to understand you don't want to understand her business. Just stop and Bose is so direct and like her personality is so like here, I'm no nonsense, but this is all nonsense. And so it's hard to get behind her too. So she's like, so Amanda's like, yeah, I'm like, you know, look yourself up yourself yesterday and you know, why did you look yourself up and say like, this is why I'm great. Let's compare me to a man done. Just well, because we were already looking you up. So I said, you know, is this the person who thinks I'm talking about her? Why would I talk about her if I could talk about me, but you were

59:17talking about her. You were literally looking her up in the back of the car. I mean, I think that the reason why Bose, which herself up was like, see, like this is bad that if you ask who's Amanda Francis and all the criticism comes up because if you look, if you just type in my name, no criticism comes up, right? And she should just say that. So Amanda's like, now we have Amanda like talking to us. And she's like, okay, well, reviews of Bose, I'm a saint, John skepticism about her short 10 years, brand over substance skepticism. Stop. Wait, this is exactly what she says about me. Stop. Okay, wait, here we go. Stop. Oh, stop. Stop. Guys, you guys, our courses are inspirational, but they lack tactical depth, high efficiency, high energy, uh, firming conscious confidence forward, but no concrete advice for people who need step by step execution and transformation. Stop.

1:00:19That's like what she says about me, but the internet saying it about her. And that's why she's doing this to me. Well, Amanda, who told you that everyone was talking about you in the car yesterday, I know, wasn't me. And Bose just looks at Saturn. It's like, okay, Sutton, what was your intention by telling Amanda that? And she's like, me, Sutton, feeling things. It's a sudden brand crash. Listen, when I was introduced to this group, it was six years ago. And I just opened my store, which by the way, it's gone now. That's another here, nor there. And everyone supported me. And I just wanted her to feel like she had that thing support. I did try to support her business. And I mean, why is Sutton right? You make no sense either. You liar to say because you're trying to fight for Kyle because you want to be Kyle's friend because you have nobody left. So then Bose is like, my point is this. I also have seminars. So I also know how to

1:01:21bullshit, bring the wall down. Let us see you. So we can mock you on a deeper level. And Mr. Gorvatov, bring this wall down. Well, I mean, I have over multiple conversations, when it's so hard for me, you can simply say your origin story, why you started your business, why you do what you do. That's what we want to know. The real story behind Amanda, put your name again, Smith, Amanda Smith. And I would love to do that. And by the way, somewhere in here, they show flashbacks of the fact that like, they did go to Amanda's house and she did try to have them journal. And they all like made fun of her in that process. And like, that that was, I mean, you know, they do so many stupid things on this show. So many stupid activities between like having goats walk on their backs or injecting, you know, rubber into their forehead or like doing some sort like they're constantly doing crazy things. So like this was nothing out of the ordinary for them to see if they've done a sound bath, they can do some

1:02:26journaling. So like they were pretty disrespectful about this event. I mean, also they were probably raging with jealousy that they were not at the Hamptons that they were sitting there journaling. But still, they did have a chance to kind of step into Amanda's world and they kind of mocked her. Yeah, both his argument here, it just doesn't make any sense. You know, none of it, none of it's really making any sense. I don't think she's making any good points. It's just that him hand is more annoying. So I'm still on the other side. I can't help it. You know, but I see that I see that Bose, I see that I see the floundering. And yeah, I think that's kind of a major problem in this show right now. Like, what do we do? And it's season five, it's episode 15. What are we doing? So Rachel's like, I mean, like, I'm sorry. What? Like I walk into rooms every day where people don't know me. Like, what? Like, I literally can be standing at a tree. No one will see me, you know, because they're all like crying. And I'm like, oh my god, who are they crying for? And I look at the gravestone. And it says Rachel's out. And you know why? Because I'm dead. I'm like,

1:03:29dead because people don't like know who I am. They see me and they're like, oh, look, there's like some vintage door. Oh, look, vintage galliano, but they don't see me. And that's like, I'm dead. Oh my god. Why is that chubby bald gay singing when beneath my wings? All right, because it's my funeral. And I'm dead. So, um, yeah, because Amanda is saying like, guys, you know, hard is like, no one knows me. So then, um, Bose is like, Amanda thinks she's the Beyonce of business. We don't know you. I've never heard of you in my life. Uh, so take down that wall, Mr. Gorbachev. And let me see you. That would be fantastic. Please stop calling me Gorbachev. I don't even know who that is. Please don't call me Mr. Gorbachev in my own All right, Risa. I don't know who that is either. So Amanda's like, I've tried to explain myself to these people. What do they want? Like, they just shut me down every single time. Which is true. And you know, Amanda, as someone

1:04:33who's not your friend, but also doesn't hate you, they're doing it because you're really annoying. And you don't shut up about your money and your business. Okay. That's why. So there's a very easy thing to take forward into the future. You're welcome. And so Amanda's like, well, I just want you guys to understand me and my business. Like, yeah, but not all the time. Just talk about yourself. Talk about your babies. Don't talk about your business so much. Um, because all of us have business, well, not many more months close. I had a business once and I'm going to cry about I love Sutton telling Amanda not to talk about her business while she just somehow managed to turn her business into a sob story for herself two seconds earlier. Yeah. Hey, everyone. This is the end of part one of this recap for part two. Keep an eye on your podcast feed. It is coming up in just a moment. Thanks so much for listening. Catch you on the second half. Watch what crap ends would like to think it's premium sponsors. No thing like Allison King. Our way is the Amberway. It's the foster and the furious. It's Amanda Foster.

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