285: Jump Scare!

Okay, big dog, you ready?

Yes.

I think so. I think we're gonna nail this theme. We're healthy.

Do.

Kind of healthy. No, I'm extra healthy now.

I literally the first thing I said to Morgan today was how's your microbiome?

Yeah, I don't know if it's just the time of year. We're all outside, hot sweaty, wearing leggings and biker shorts.

Scores. I feel like I got a little swampy.

Okay. And so that's what inspired me to do a

boric acid

suppository and by the way, I did this two weeks earlier. We had no idea.

We did not discuss this. It would have saved me if Michaela would have.

It was on like the front page of one of the apps that I scroll and it had such good reviews.

Raving reviews.

If you have sex with a new person or like you're just feeling a little bit off,

you just pop one of these in there and you'll feel amazing. I wish I found this sooner.

This would have saved me years of discomfort. This is awesome.

I mean, people were talking about them like I've do it five days in a row and I feel so fresh.

I do smell amazing. You could do no wrong. There was no downside.

And so we both took it and so like we had plans to record last Friday and just like

have a good day and go to our massage spot and I popped one in Thursday night.

I don't know. Maybe I'll push it into deep. I don't know.

And I woke up the next day, ramping worse than I do on my periods.

Yeah, I don't. I think I think it's really not just a fix all unfortunately,

but I will tell you what I smell amazing.

Okay. I feel fresh.

Okay. So somewhat worth it.

Yeah, my experience was I started seeing like, you know, a little bit of cautionary words

on the internet after I'd already inserted it. So I did in fact like dig it out a bit of

self. So it. So I didn't have as bad of like cramps and stuff.

Yeah, I was like uncomfortable the next week.

It was interesting. If you want to try it, if you're feeling a little swampy,

maybe talk to your guy now first. Yeah. I think that's it.

Yeah, it's borac acid. There's some other brands that have other things like,

well, I think it's aloe vera in them too. I think it's really good for people who do

get like, these infections are be very often or like, you're prone to that.

Yeah. And it'll like stop it before it can come.

That was the big thing on Reddit. Again, not medical providers. This is not medical advice,

but yeah, no, but if this is something that you've never heard of, and that's like a chronic

thing that you struggle with. Yeah. I remember my friend Julia talking about if you get

UTIs a lot, taking D-Mannos when you start to feel something weird.

Interesting. All great stuff, but look into it. Talk to your provider just to be sure.

Because we had bad experiences or clearly not saying just do it. Yeah, no, don't just do it.

This is not one of those. Proceed with caution. It could feel like today's theme if you don't

proceed with caution because it could feel like a jump scare. First time hearing our theme.

Jump scare. And you did have a little bit of a jump scare there. Whoa. Yeah. When you hear

jump scare, what do you think? I guess like, if I see an X on like a sign in LA, that's a jump

scare. Yeah. Why are you here? Or like, if I, you know, I'm scrolling Instagram and somehow an

enemy of mine pops up doing a doing a little bit. Yeah. Ah, jump scare. That's exactly what I'm

going to do. One of my friends X's. Ah, jump scare. Yeah. Internet slang for any sudden shocking

or unexpected event that startles you in daily life, mimicking a horror movie shock.

Yeah. I mean, it feels that way. We have been sleuthin' for good stories. Bailey and I really,

we went hard on this theme. Yeah, this is going to be story heavy. It's going to be story heavy.

It's going to be crazy. It's going to be fun. And we will be continuing it over on Patreon.

And again, it is new bonus episodes, new stories, different people, different reactions.

Is it also ad free, though? Ad free. It's not just ad free. It's also brand new episodes.

It's brand new episodes. And they're ad free. Yeah. I don't put the regular weekly episodes

over on Patreon ad free. Right. That's, I think some people are getting confused about that. I've

seen some comments lately. And they're like, why would I pay for Patreon to just get it ad free?

And I'm like, no, no, no, babes. It's new. It's bonus. It's exclusive ad free. What is, is it

three a month now? Three bonus episodes a month. And it used to be much less. And maybe moving up

before very soon. So getting a lot of, also now when you do it because you've been doing Patreon

for so long, you get like a back catalog of like how many episodes? A lot. Like 10s, decades of them.

A lot. Five years of bonus content now. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff over there. So if you want more of

the jump scare theme or more irreversible X or more this, more that. Come on over to Patreon.

We've got some really good bonus episodes right now. So without further ado, let's dive in. Yeah.

All right. I'm jumped. Okay. Up first for us here. This is coming from our slash relationship

advice titled my boyfriend wants us to do a blood pact instead of getting engaged me.

Just kidding. I've 24 female, then with my boyfriend, 27 male for a little over three years.

We've talked about marriage a lot. And lately he's been hinting that he's ready to take the next step.

Last weekend, he told me that he had a surprise planned. I thought he was going to propose.

Instead, he shows me two small glass vials, a random ass blade and rubbing alcohol.

He said that he didn't believe in marriage because quote, the government shouldn't define

commitment. And that wedding rings are just expensive jewelry. He told me he wanted us to each slice

our hands, mix our blood together in the vials, seal them and wear them as necklaces. Or if we get

enough blood, put it in a vase. Oh my God. He called it a blood pact and said it would mean more

than any wedding ceremony because quote, our blood would literally be connected forever. I laughed

because what the fuck? But he was so serious. When I told him absolutely not, he said if I was

scared of cutting myself, he would do it for me. Or we could use my period blood. Ooh, I said

not just no, but fuck no. And he got upset and asked why I would rather sign a piece of paper

than make a real commitment. He said if I truly loved him, I wouldn't be afraid of something symbolic.

I told him it wasn't about being afraid. It just felt really strange to me and honestly kind of

unsettling. Now he's saying I'm disrespecting his beliefs and treating something that's deeply

meaningful to him like it's ridiculous. A couple of his friends have even massaged me saying that

I'm closed-minded and that society has conditioned me to think marriage is the only valid commitment.

Part of me feels like I should have taken him more seriously instead of laughing. But I also

feel like asking someone to do a blood pact instead of getting engaged is a lot and odd. What do I do?

He didn't even like soft launch this concept to hurt any point. Like what do you mean out of

nowhere? You're there with a knife in two vials. I don't know. I think when people talk about

their problems with marriage, I think that's totally valid. But I think we're conflating these

two things like you don't respect the way I feel about marriage with and you also have to do this

blood pact. You know, those are two separate things and I don't think she's disrespecting his views

by not wanting to either cut her... The period blood at least, he's like not, you have to cut yourself.

Yeah, that was a little more of a inclusive option.

Next to your the inclusive option, yeah. Yeah, I appreciate that. It's just gonna go to waste

any ways. But you know, this was what machine good Kelly and Megan Fox did, right?

Oh, they're not the only ones that have done blood packs. Oh. Didn't you hear about Angelina

Jolie and Billy Bob Thornton? I didn't. Yeah, that was... I would say that's the most iconic

blood pact, blood vile necklace I've heard about. And like, it actually like was big in the

rumor mill and it wasn't even a blood vile. It was a photo locket that contained a single drop

of each of their blood and they would wear it because... He's kind of cute. I'm honestly...

I'm not 100% know on this. It was like a diabetic. You know, when you prick your finger for a

diabetic blood glucose track. Yeah. If I can just whoop and then whoop blood fingerprint

on a locket. That's a little bit cute. Are we going off the rails? I don't know. I don't know.

That doesn't change my opinion on this, you know, this is a woman having to do it. No,

if she doesn't want to do it, she's not anyway. Point blanked on weird. But if someone came to me

and they're like, Michaela, I think that this would be really amazing. Like think about it. You know,

let's really sit on it. I'd be like, oh, man, all right, sure. Yeah. What the hell? Well,

let's also get married though. That. I'm like, I don't think the blood pact would really

solidify the commitment to me because I don't know if you don't like me anymore,

you're just going to throw the vile, maybe vase of my blood away. The vase was crazy. If we get

enough of it, a vase. Also, I don't think, I don't know, yes, the blood lives together forever,

but it's not like their blood is in your veins or your blood is in their veins. It's just mixed

in a jar. It's just mixed in a jar. Yeah. This has got me really curious about the history of

blood packs and like how they came about. Yeah. And like the only thing I'm seeing is like

it was really big in the middle ages. It's appeared in a lot of historical texts, but that's going

to be a wrap hole for another day. That's the thing is like back when Angelina Jolie did it. That

was probably really cool. But now that machine gun Kelly and Megan Fox have done it. How I would

I'd hesitate because of that. I honestly use the connotations that you that Megan Fox was

inspired by Angelina Jolie. Yeah. Like I bet that's where the inspo came from. I feel like if

you're subtle about it, it's okay. It's like shoving it in everyone's faces of like we wear each

other's blood around our threads in like a necklace. You know what I mean? Like really yeah,

like thinking you're doing a thing with it. Yeah. Do you want to see the lockets that Angelina

Jolie had? I'd love to. I'm 100% for that for some reason. I'm I'm super down with the locket

actually. I don't know why I never thought I would be. Yeah. But even them, they got really

criticized to where people were like they're walking around with jars. They're acting like vampires.

Like they got some serious heat. That's it right there. I mean, that's really cute. And it was

a romantic gesture for them. I think it's romantic. I do think it is. Maybe this is the poll. We're

hitting the poll right away on this one. I know this I'm so curious. Locket romantic or not.

And like which yeah, the finger prick is very different from a vial I think.

Because I don't want to yeah. I don't want to see the sludge. One little

on a locket that's closed. Yeah. Because like technically that's their DNA. That's their whole

entire being. They're freaking your little fingers. Yeah, but the little I think why it's cute to me

as it reminds me of like a needle a childhood thing too. Like you know how like kids will do

little blood promise blood brother blood pack things. Yeah. It's like very innocent the way they do it.

So I feel like there's a way that it could be romantic and innocent for adults. Yeah. I think

it could be, but it doesn't replace what a proposal would feel like an unactual marriage. Like

yeah. That to me feels like a little bit of a a cop out. And I do think his behavior coming in

after where it's like my friends are calling her now. Like everyone needs to get on my side that

she's disrespecting my beliefs and she's closed mind it like that's where I'm like.

Well, also you didn't have a conversation about it. So like you do have to talk about it. You can't

I don't know. He's like she's closed-minded, but he never even tried to open her mind. He just

tried to shove something in there. Yeah. And that's it was very manipulative from the start. Like him

saying if I truly loved him I wouldn't be afraid of something symbolic. But you're physically cut.

Like it's not just symbolic. We're physically doing it. Yeah. It's not an idea. Like if you want

symbolic and easy accessible we could do a handfast ceremony. What's the hat? You like hold your

hands together and they do an intricate knot and like little words. Yeah, that is cute. It's really

cute. Yeah. I just find it weird. Again, very dramatic with the disrespecting his beliefs. Yeah.

Why agree? Where did you find these beliefs? How'd you get here? I don't know. It sounds like all

of his friends might have them too though. Like they're all kind of on board with this thing it feels

like. Yeah. I'm genuinely I'm going to need a lot more info on this one. Top comment though.

You know it's bad when you're post. Sounds like the start of a true crime documentary.

I was worried about that and it's so funny because genuinely the moment he said period blood was

okay. It made me a little bit less worried about this being violent. But him being like I could

cut it for you. I wouldn't want to do that to someone else's like no. No. No. As far as I'm

going is Tweezing Justin's eyebrows and maybe pop into Z. Right or if you have like a splinter.

Oh, I'll find a way to get that out of you. Would you suck?

Snake venom? Apparently that's a rumor. I don't know if that's accurate. But like would you be

willing to suck some snake venom out of your partner? Yes. I could be motivated by

love to save another's life. Yeah. Of course. And honestly you put snake venom lip gloss on.

So what's a little sucking? I do. Don't you wear snake plumping? Do you have plumping lip gloss?

No. No. Well I like a good plump and sometimes it's snake venom. Are we talking about the movie holes?

The classic movie holes where the red kissing bandit puts on snake venom on her lips?

Do you know who? All right. You know I have not seen holes in ages. Oh okay. Sorry I don't

that's like just such a tangent. Yeah. No there's there's like a bunch of different lip glosses

that have snake venom in them as a plump. Like the classic Sephora lip glosses you'd even say?

Yeah. Two-faced lip injection extreme lip plumper. I use that in high school. So you have

you snake venom gloss? Yeah. That's so interesting. Yeah. So what's you know? No I would have

helped in your help in your person out. Next comment down. I would probably do that for a stranger

to be honest. Really? Well I guess it's a very kind. It's very kind. It's like on an arm of course

yeah. Foot? What would feel less itgy to me than like like someone's like a man's chest or something?

I feel so into it. Like a neck. You know what I mean? It feels like it's so intimate. A foot's like

at least far away from you. I will say as someone that just finished love Island UK version. Me too.

So so good. Such a good season. There was a lot of like sucking of toes from certain contestants.

US was way worse. US was so much more sexy. I can't watch the US like the food challenge. No.

But yeah. I didn't. There's a lot of toe sucking. But okay. Next comment. Blood packs don't stand

up in court of law like a marriage license does just saying this guy is full of BS. I would find

myself a better more mature partner. This guy is just a wanker. I fully agree. I also still want to

say I think it's valid for people to be like not wanting to get married as well.

Sure. They're always open and communicative about that with their partner. And like don't

sort of like blind side them. Leon I guess. But yeah. So I don't want it to come off like we're

you know saying that. No. I whatever floats your boat. I think not getting married has a lot of

incentives as well. It's hard to not be married as a couple in like this society that we have now

as well. Like it's just like built for married couples. So it does cause a lot of extra hurdles to

not get married. For sure. I love. Hey, have your wedding, have your ceremony. But like whatever

paperwork you file on your back end. It's not really anyone else's business. So there's a lot.

When you get into it like taxes. Oh my god. Can be a nightmare. Can be a nightmare. Yeah. Yeah.

If you get married like sometimes it helps. Sometimes it's an incentive. And then other times it's like

not good. Couple other comments. People are like disrespecting his beliefs, laughing emoji like galore.

And then someone responds back. Is he pagan? Part of a vampire called does he practice witchcraft

and wizardry? O.P. I know nothing about you guys and your interests. But this does not sound like a

safe or remotely sane relationship. This is something that kids who have watched too many

adventure movies think is a good idea. And that kind of brings back to your point of like it feels

somewhat childish. Like childlike in a way. Yeah. I'm interested to see if O.P. replies at all.

Like is this totally out of character? Is this completely out of the blue? Or was this this sort

of in line with what she would expect from the sky? Yeah. But it feels it feels like it was random.

She was expecting a proposal. Yeah. Absolutely. And I will say this is giving real account from

everything I'm seeing. They are a part of the five year club. They don't have an insane amount

of karma. So it doesn't seem like they're karma farming with this story. They've got a lot of

different achievements regularly active. They've got posts in our slash monstera talking about their

monstera plant, which looks absolutely beautiful. That is a lot healthier than what mine look like.

So it is giving very real to me and just seemingly, I don't know, a judgment issue on his behalf.

We don't have an update. I'm following the account. And we will see if anything comes of it.

Wow. Well, if he didn't act so weird after, I would have been rooting for them. But I don't know.

I don't like the way he handled it. I don't like the way he went about it. No, not at all. Let's see

what you think of this next one and how they they handled it. This is coming from our slash

am I overreacting? It's our slash a I O though specifically. And it's titled

caught him spooning his cousin last year. Now this am I overreacting? Last year. So this wasn't an

ender. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Me 30 female him 29 male 12 months ago, we visited his two female

cousins for a weekend and stayed at their place. Several things happened that weekend that I

didn't like. He hand fed his cousin Laura 27 female, a gesture that he had previously called

romantic. Her sister Jenny 35 female clung to him in the pool, cornering him and tickling his

stomach, question mark beneath the water. Both girls were brawless the whole time we were there.

And Laura even showed her boob at one point saying it was itchy. Oh, okay girl. I got to find a

better way to do it. I commented on his hand feeding her. He was upset for hours after. I didn't

even mention any of my other issues. The second night Laura's daughter Laura, my boyfriend and I

shared a California king bed in that order. Her daughter slept on the end nearest to the wall.

I slept on the end nearest to the door. Boyfriend is usually super clingy with me at night,

but not this night. At some point I woke up because I didn't feel him near me. I felt around in

the darkness and found his hip. I reached her at my arm around him, but I was met with resistance.

Laura's ass was against his crotch. They were literally spooning. I pulled him towards me and he

moved easily. He seemed pretty knocked out as we drank a bunch that day. I could barely stay

asleep after this and every time I woke up, I woke up to this. One of the times I pulled him towards

me and she scooted back towards him again. This was our last day there. I was living the whole day,

but I couldn't bring myself to utter to boyfriend why I was upset. When we got home that night and

we were alone, I told him why I was upset. He cried, said he knew nothing about it, said he had no

memory of it, said that she had never come on to him before, said that he was sorry because he felt

like he cheated on me. We worked through it, though he later said he was worried that I wouldn't want

to visit her anymore because of it. Worth mentioning is that he previously told me that where he is

from, it's not uncommon to see cousins dating. But if I did it, it wasn't weird. It's actually normal

if I did it in the incident resurfaced for me last night when I saw this picture of him and his

sister, 27 female, that made me feel similarly icky. Him carrying his sister, his arms wrapped around

her bottom and her legs wrapped around his waist. He said that this is normal for his family. I told

him that I'm not comfortable with it. He accused me of not wanting anyone to touch him at all. I

admitted I'm not okay with intimate areas being touched, even indirectly. And you knew that

from the beginning. That's why it was such a big deal when you were spooning with Laura that night.

He got upset that I brought it up, which triggered me. So I asked, quote, since this level of intimacy

with other girls is normal for you, does that mean were you actually a willing participant in the

spooning that night? He got super upset and said, quote, I'm not telling you again that I don't

remember it happening. I don't even think it really happened. He clarified that he has always

thought it was a lie. That hurt. To be accused of lying about something like this really has me

upset. And I don't know why. Maybe it's hypocritical of me as it was a response to me essentially saying

he was lying, but it makes me want to just split. And on top of that, the pick I saw last night

has me feeling nauseous. I'm just not comfortable with that level of closeness between him and other

adult females related or not. Am I overreacting about this? Any of it? I am so glad that this girl came

to read it. Like, please, please read the comments on this post girl because I know that you're

going to hear some stuff you need to hear. Also, yeah, it's so funny for him to be like, oh,

so you just don't want me to touch any other women? Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't. We're together.

Yeah, no, I don't want you to be. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Why is that hard to grasp?

Like, what the hell would you be okay if I started acting like this with my family? Yeah,

my guys friends. Yeah, yeah. No. Okay, then I think you should understand why I'm uncomfortable.

Also, was he the only guy on the California King Bed?

It sounded like it was a full family affair. I feel like he should have been like on the outer

side with just his girlfriend next to him. Yeah, so it was Laura's daughter on the right, Laura,

boyfriend, or writer. So four people in the California King. And her daughter was there.

What the hell? It's just nasty. No, this family's scary. They could like make a scary movie

about this family. I don't know. Like, I understand you don't have space and your family is not

that weird to share a bad. But the fact they kept going to cuddle and spoon and OP would like pull

them away. And then you just see her back in her ass up back into his crotch. Like, yuck, yuck,

yuck, yuck, yuck. I would probably go crazy. I would wake his ass up and be like, go, you're

getting on the couch. And if you're, yeah, this is not okay. She kept saying she pulled him closer.

I'm like, I would run personally. I would get out of this. That bad. It's like I would

scoot him back to me. And then, you know, they'd get back together. I'd scoot him back to me.

I would honestly, after the second time it happened, I would be very curious if I switched positions

with him if she would cuddle up on me. Like, is this just her sleeping and she's back in that

ass up or like, is this like they know what they're doing and they're not really fully asleep?

You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know. If they hadn't had the like other flirty moments in the

hot tub and everything and it only happened once, I could see someone, you know, in their sleep,

just, you know, reaching and she did say he's usually very clingy in bed. So he is used to

reaching for someone in bed. I could see that potentially, yeah, being something you can get

over if there's nothing else weird. And it really seemed like a mistake, but I don't think in

this scenario it was. Do you want to say the picture of him and the sister? Oh my god, she posted it.

Sure dad. Is it my birthday? Oh, you're joking. You are lying and joking. You are lying to my face.

That is so romantic. Describe it for the people. I mean, how can I like, really,

he's his arms are scooping his butt. It's like the notebook. It's like when, when you reconnect,

no, it's literally, it's like when like a guy comes home from war and he, you know, they run in

the airport to, you know, it's like very romantic. It's very like, it's actually perched.

The legs wrapped around and like, and also like, he's looking up. Like you can't see his face,

because he that his chin is like tilted up toward her. I mean, it's kind of, I'm very curious if it's

buried in her boobs given the positioning. That's breast level. Oh my god, Morgan.

It's very intimate. I will say like, you're on to something with that. Her butt and crotch

is sitting on his stomach. So at least it's not like crotch to crotch. But it's still

almost more romantic the way that it is. I would not ever, ever, ever in a million years.

No. No. Ride my brother like this. Like, I don't even think I would get a piggyback from my brother

at my old age. No, I think if we were like on a hike and I broke my leg, I would have to break a leg.

Sure. To get carried by a sibling. Yeah. Like there's no freaking way. I don't think you're overreacting.

I think they have some very, I think you're underreacting. Yeah. No, I would say like the, the cuddling

and then kind of being like, gas lit about it. Like, I feel like this is a very weird family dynamic

and not one that I would want to continue to be a part of, especially like you're 30. Yeah.

Like move on. Prime of your life, baby. He's worried that she's not going to want to see his

cousins anymore. Like, I don't want you to see your cousins anymore when you talk about me seeing

your cousins. I don't want you going there. Uh-huh. I bet if you're going, I better be there, actually.

You know, you already, this is such a like messed up thought to have, but it's like,

there's so many people out there in the world that like, you know, your partner could have his

head turned in many different ways. The last people you want to worry about are the cousins,

both cousins as a sister. Yeah. Like damn, damn. I'm just, you got to run. Yeah, got to run.

I don't understand how this happens. You hear stories and you're like, did you never have any

sign? Like, can this happen to anyone? Can you think your person is so normal? And then a random

thing like this happens, you're like, what the fuck? This is why you got to meet the family early on.

Scary. You got to meet the family early on because if you meet them two years in and you love

this person and you realize their family dynamic is weird as fuck. Go go. Yeah. You like, you're

then you're two years in. Yeah. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? So top comment on

this one. I went to an abandoned mental asylum over the weekend and this seems fitting for your

situation. Da, da, da, da, da, and they share a picture of a graffiti wall at the mental asylum.

And it says, I love my cousin. Oh, cousins by choice lovers by, oh no, cousins by chance,

lovers by choice. That'd be hilarious if it was cousins by choice lovers by choice.

No, cousins by chance lovers by choice. So do we think this was like a romantic outing or do you

think that cousins were sent to a mental hospital and they kind of, you know, like cemented their

love in the, wow, people are really declaring their love in ingenious ways this episode. Yeah.

We've got graffiti on a mental hospital and blood vials. Yeah. Apparently it is the northern state

asylum. Okay. So a lot of people recognize it in the comments. They're like shout out northern

state. So it's like a very popular but abandoned. Yeah. Next one down. I was on their volleyball team.

Go lobotomies. Wait. Thank people are in a volleyball team. No, now I just mean silly. Oh,

god. They're just being silly. Also, oh gosh. Then someone links a YouTube video of Brad Paisley on

one of the late night shows releasing a song called First Cousins. It's, it's obviously like a joke.

But we do have a couple other comments from people. Someone just asks, are you 100% sure that

they are cousins? Some people lie and Opie responds, unfortunately, I am 100% certain. I explained

somewhere else that I talked to his mom and grandma pretty regularly. And is he normal with the mom

and grandma? I'd like to know. Is he free for all female relatives or does he have like an age limit?

Oh, there's another comment here. This doesn't seem like the sort of thing you'll be able to get over.

Think about it. Can you see a world in which here means close with his family and you don't feel

uncomfortable? Something may happen. He made genuinely not see an issue with it. Personally,

I would find it icky. And I don't see him cutting off his family because of it. It's awful,

but logically, it's over. Yeah, it's like, I guess there are families that do that out there.

I'm like thinking of Tom Brady kissing his son on the mouth. That was a big thing when I had this.

That was a big thing. But even that is less weird because it's like a parent and a very young child.

Yeah. And that was still like weird, but to me, but it less. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like

that's not something I'm going to be able to comment on until I have kids. But I'm like, I have a

really hard time with like hugging people. I feel like I'm a bad hugger. So I don't even know

what to think about that. But OP does respond to that, like logically, it's over. And they go,

you're right. You're so right. Because that's literally what I said to him after it happened

at first. That if you were ever around her without me, I would be constantly imagining what might

be happening. And it'd be wrong to cut off family, especially for this. Can't one of us just

change a hug? I mean him specifically probably should be the one like what you want.

You want to change and do a person who doesn't mind if you're partner like

gets his cousin's aspect up on him and keeps pulling her back. No. And we do have another post

here from OP, not necessarily an update, but another post coming from our slash Am I wrong?

Titled, is it wrong that I'm jealous of my boyfriend's sisters? And how like we're these

posted around the same time? I believe yeah, four days apart. She's locking in this week.

Four days apart. Decision by Sunday. Yeah. And like, hey, I think the first post we read,

obviously problematic enough. Like I'm not sure if this one's going to make it better.

He constantly says his sisters are too beautiful. And when they post pics on their stories,

statuses on Facebook or WhatsApp, he screenshots it. Often he'll send the pic to me saying,

isn't she beautiful? That alone isn't an issue, but it makes me jealous because he doesn't send

them random pics of me saying, isn't my girlfriend beautiful? He used to post his sisters and his

exes on his status and story. He's never posted me on his status and story, even though he takes

pictures of me all the time. But to be frank, he hasn't posted on socials since a few months before

we started dating. He called them baby and my love and my beautiful queens. All the same things he

calls me. Wait, his sisters? I thought he meant the exes that first and then I was like, wait,

surely not. It's giving sisters. I told him I didn't like him using the same pet names for me.

I'd rather him just call me by my name. He got mad initially, but has since started calling them

other pet names. I am generally secure about my appearance, but I have felt less than beautiful in

this relationship for a while. He says, I don't have eyes for anyone but you and I believe him.

Yeah, it just goes on. This bone feels like my do I stay or do I go point? Because knowing that he

finds me attractive and is proud of me would make it easier to be patient enough to work on the rest.

There's way too much to work on here. Yeah, girl, what do you have? What's the good here?

He's spooning his cousins, which is enough by itself, even if he was perfect otherwise.

It's I'm confused. I'm genuinely I'm like, I don't think you got much going on and I don't think

there's anything like there's another post here that was removed by the moderators, but

from our slash relationship advice, how do I get over my dislike for my boyfriend's aunt?

Oh my god, what's the aunt? What's the aunt doing? Am I overacting? I feel like my boyfriend is not

attracted to me and it makes me want to leave him. It almost feels like he's like the center of a

female cult within his family in a weird way. It's a weird vibe. It's like what's going on here?

This is not a vibe I would want to be a part of. I feel like there's something extra happening.

Yeah, and again, I will say seemingly real account. Again, old has a decent amount of karma.

Five-year-old account has been unlocking achievements like top poster, five-day streak,

nice post, banana aficiato, aficionato, banana master, active in the two-hour take sub nine months

ago. Girl leave, girl run. Girl, if you're out there, if you're listening, look at me, look at me,

this isn't you. No. This is not meant for you. What are you fighting for? This is not meant for you.

At all. Jump scare. Okay. We're jumping off the ship. I don't want to be a part of this one

anymore. Perfect. And I hope you don't want to be either because it's too weird. Yeah. I'll find

someone for you. Honestly, I'm incentivized. My Caleb the matchmaker. Okay, onto this next one.

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This next one for us here. Coming from our slash Girl Dinner Diaries. Oh, I don't know that one.

Have you been on Girl Dinner? There's a couple different Girl Dinner subs. And they're quickly

becoming my favorite stories. Is it posting about what they're eating? So they share what they're

eating. I'll read you the sub, like blip of what it is for the feral plates and the feral thoughts.

Post your unhinged meals, relationships, spirals, late night thoughts, soft moments,

bragging moments, your messy moments. It's kind of like this dumb ball. And so you'll get this picture

of like, oh, this is a nice looking taco. And then it's like a crazy story. You maybe have

mentioned this. Yeah. I've read a couple stories off here now, but I'm really just finding it to be

such a good sub to follow. Yeah. This is again coming from Girl Dinner Diaries.

Titled found out my best friend is hooking up with my dad. I have no idea what to do, y'all.

Please help to start. Let me make it known that we are in our mid 20s, not underage. Anyways,

my best friend has been close to me like a sister for six years. We do everything together

since we met. I take her on vacations with me, bring her around my other friends and family,

pretty much any and everything. She's my go-to person for advice and to talk to about literally

everything. She's always been around my family a lot to the point where she says it feels like

a second family for her. And my mom absolutely adores her. Sometimes when my mom is mad at me,

she'll even make jokes about how I should act more like my best friend and will refer to her as

her favorite daughter. Oh, God. Not anymore. The other night I was hanging out with my best friend

at my house and when she went to get a shower, she forgot to take her phone with her, which she

usually never does. So I didn't even realize she didn't have it until I heard it go off next to me.

She was getting blown up by someone and had her text previews on so I looked at her screen

and I saw her text. She got them from an unsaved number and y'all I looked at her screen

and it was my fucking dad's number. There were two texts from him that said, quote,

when are you going to be home? And I want to see you again soon, baby. When I tell you my jaw dropped

and fell right through my stomach and out my asshole, crying emoji, I literally was frozen just

thinking to myself, what do I do right now? Do I just go confront her now and beat her ass while

she's in the shower? Or do I go to my parents house first, confront my dad, beat his ass and tell my

mom, I was fucking floored. Completely out of loss for words. And the worst part is my parents are

still happily together in love and have been for over 20 years now. Oh shit. And my mom fucking

loves my best friend. Maybe even more than me for real. And I don't even know how long this

shit has been going on for. Y'all, what do I do? How do I handle some shit like this and who do I

confront first and how? It still doesn't even feel real and I can't even believe I'm sharing this

here to be honest, but I genuinely have no idea how to go about this whole fucked up situation.

This is the type of nightmare fuel that you know is possible, but you obviously never think it's

actually going to happen. What do I do? I'm going to need her to get a little bit more specific

on mid 20s and six year best friend take on vacation. Right because this is

grooming. Like she literally looked at them as a second family and has been around and like so

interconnected to the family for so many years. Well, here's a picture of her tacos.

Oh my god. They look really fucking good. What is that? So hungry. It's like chicken fajitas.

Chicken, corn, guax, sour cream, some grilled red peppers, grilled onions, grilled green peppers,

honestly, what I'm going to have immediately after this. Okay. Well, you know, at least she's got

food. Nice taco to cry over. Oh my god. Like, no, this is definitely insane.

Absolutely insane. She should go beat her dad's ass. I would like yeah. I don't know.

Obviously it's weird and bad from the best friend too, but she also I feel like in the situation

might be a victim like potentially. I don't know. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, yeah, there's no real

clear like mid 20s that could be 25. It could be 25. It could be 27. It could be 24. So I'm like

again, it's not great. Like, there's clearly a power imbalance and to go from yeah,

look at your family as a second family to yeah, like that's not good. No, he's a creep. It's

it's creepy. I guess in terms of how do you proceed forward? I would probably talk to my friend first

and confront her. I feel like your friend is probably less likely to try to lie to you. And I

would want more clear answers. And then I would go to my dad, but like you got to know like two

friend is immediately going to be like texting your dad like she knows, but like there's going to be

a lot of damage control and like yeah. So I feel like dad has more to lose. So he'll be a little bit

more huge. Huge. And so I just like confront her. And then depending on what you learn, go to your mom.

I'd probably go to the mom. The mom first. Yeah. I think it would be don't give a chance to like

figure out who's going to sell the story to her. And some people, some people's parents like

have open relationships. And then they find out about it in weird ways. But it's like you can

have an open relationship. But don't fuck my friend. Don't potentially. Don't put your child's

friend to was at the oldest 20 when you met her and was hanging out with your family. In this like

I don't know. Like that is a child parent dynamic to an extent. Even if it's not you know as

severe as an actual child. And even without that like that is an insane age gap. And it's creepy

regardless. Yeah. I don't know. Also him saying like when are you getting home? Are they like

playing house? What's going on? Does he have a key to her place? It's this sounds pretty

severe again when did it start? How long has this been happening? Because this doesn't sound like

super recent. No. If he's saying when are you getting home? No. And I will say this does seem to be

a very real Reddit account. It's a part of the two year club. Normal amount of karma doesn't

seem like it's out of this world like their karma farming regular achievements. They typically post

in our slash paintings, our slash unusual art, our slash OC poetry. So it does feel like it's

very real. Which is like why? Why? Why? Why? Why? But yeah. I'm just like I think I would do that

order. Friend, mom, dad. I've like talking to people. I agree. And she's with the friend right now.

That's why it's also easy. Is there any way she like knows her phone password while she's in the

shower? I would have like really gotten in there. But if I knew it, I would have creeped. I'm not

usually for looking through someone's phone. But I would want to know, like I just feel like when

people are definitely going to lie. Like this is one where I think she come out and lie. If I feel

like if trust gets broken in some way, like, well, now it's on the person who broke it to either fix

that or show whatever. So I think looking at someone's phone when they've done something like

that is totally reasonable and valid. Yeah. In same. Let's get into the comments on this one.

The top comment with 4.2 K-a-votes is just a meme of this guy just looking horrified.

Which is how I feel inside right now. Yeah. Damn girl, your font is huge.

I zoomed it for you. Oh, thank you. What? Comment on just like fun. Shame me.

You were like text size, whatever. Yeah. I zoomed so you could see it. Thank you. And that was

really kind. Another meme that gets shared is Maya Rudolph cringinging. I'm hoping with every

single cell in my body that OP misread the number. I mean, I think she knows her father's phone number.

Yeah. I feel like in that moment, I feel like you would also do a double take, triple take,

and be like, is that close? No, that's my dad. That would take a picture of it on my phone.

I think you definitely, when you come across shit like this, you definitely need to take pictures

of someone's screen. Because again, people make you seem crazy, especially if it's like multiple

people that are cared about in your family who could kind of band together and create a different

narrative of what happened. The next top comment here, well, tell your mom for sure. She doesn't

deserve to be in the dark. Next comment, tell mom, wait on beating friends ass while your mom

figures out what she wants to do. And if it's divorce, get what she needs lined up for that before

either of them know and can do anything to cover their asses. OP prioritizes your mom and getting

her setup for the direction she wants to go right now without them coming up with a cover.

Aspedians can happen later after your mom is set up. And that's a really good point. Yeah. Play

it cool. Like you still don't know and like try to secure the evidence off your friend's phone.

Yeah. Like get the password for the next time she's in the shower or like you have a sleep over

and then you wake up midnight and get it. Which feels like so put that phone screen up to their face.

Yeah. Oh my god. Oh, but the eyes have to be open. Yeah. Well, she could like get the password.

She could like do it while they're awake, run to the bathroom, lock herself in the room. That would

right. And it feels like deceptive, but at the same time she's been with your dad. But again,

we don't know when it started. So I know there's like a very nuanced conversation with all of this

where we don't know all the details. Yeah. But it's not right. No. What's going on one way or another?

Not right. Damn. And I also like didn't expect it to for him and the wife to still be together.

I thought it was going to be a story where it's just like they were divorced. Yeah. But like bad

anyway. But that's crazy. Yeah. No. A lot of people do keep commenting to ignore everyone

else's advice and do this. One, do not say anything to the friend. Two, tell mom, let her do what she

needs to do legally. Step three, tell dad. Step four, keep ignoring friend. You will never speak to her

again. Okay. Sure. Yeah. I mean, I'd probably want to hear her side too, but I don't know. After all

the other day. I would. Yeah. Because I think a lot of people, I think a lot of people see like

mid 20s and are just like, well, she was an adult. Yeah. But I think there's a lot more nuance there.

And again, family vacations immediately followed by best friend of six years. Yeah. And grooming,

like I think again, it's kind of like why I have a problem with age gaps. If there's like a power

imbalance, like grooming can also be a power imbalance where she felt vulnerable. Maybe she doesn't have

a good home life. Maybe she doesn't really have a family. She looks at this family as her second

family, her chosen family. Yeah. And then it just devolves into this messed up situation. And so

there's like, she's like, kind of been adopted into this family, which is even like you hear that.

And you're like, God, this dude is just sick in the head. We don't have an update from O.P.

It is very fresh just posted this morning. The moderators of Girl Dinner did remove it.

That's shit. However, account still very active. I'm going to send her a message and just be like,

hey, send you love crazy terrible thing you're dealing with. Like, please keep us posted.

But it again is giving very real based on account history and all the posts I'm seeing. Yeah.

Yeah. Wild. Absolutely wild. God, I wish that I could text her. I know. I just want to like drop a

pin. Let me help. Yeah. Let me like, let's kick your dad out. Let's put all his shit on the line. I got a hammer.

What? What you meant? What are you going to do with that hammer? You know, like hit him with it.

We're going to fight with words. Okay. Sure. You know, allegedly, since we're publicly posting this.

Yeah. And like maybe legal documents. Like, yeah. The worst papers. Got it. Got it. Totally.

Alamoni. Yeah. That other big word. Alamoni. Okay. Moving along to this next one. Okay.

Trigger warning on this next one, friends. It does contain mentions of self harm, suicide, body shaming.

It's a pretty heavy story and is honestly quite bonkers. So if you can't handle that today, please skip ahead.

The two hot takes dating show where all the people who write into the two hot takes read it with

the gross relationship story, we find matches for them. I've wanted to do a two hot takes like speed

dating thing in LA. You should. I know. Well, you can help me now that I have a business partner

on this venture. I'll be the hype guy. You say stuff. I'm like, yeah. I don't want to talk. We'll let

everybody do the talk. We just will screen people, make sure they're good. We'll be like,

you have to send us your Reddit. Oh, I'm good at that. I'm good at like looking into someone's

social media and finding everything. You have to kind of know what people are doing on this

Reddit. Otherwise, they can turn out to be a monster like this next one. This is coming from

our slash relationships. It's titled, I 32 female just discovered my husband 34 male of six years

is a Reddit troll. And I'm pregnant. That's what you meant by troll. Okay.

He left the browser open on our laptop after he went to work this morning. I go to work after. So,

I usually hop on and do my own things on my real account. Today, however, I was disgusted at what I

found. My husband is a troll, a really fucking nasty troll. He leaves horribly mean comments to all

kinds of people. They're filled with racist slurs, awful insults. He tears in the fat people,

ugly people, etc. He loves to troll around places like our slash progress picks to discourage

people. He sent private messages to people to call them names, calls women who post on our slash

gone wild sluts and horrors and seawards, etc. I was horrified, completely horrified. My husband

is a nice gentleman who is supportive and kind. In our nine year relationship, we have thought a

total of three times. I never thought that this is a behavior he would take part in. But this is

something else. It made me wonder what else he did on the internet. So I looked at the browser

history to find him also harassing teenagers on Tumblr. What the fuck? Telling them to hurt themselves,

calling cute girls ugly and fat and stupid. It horrified me to think that this was the man who

could be raising our daughter with me in just a few months. I understand trolling can be fun.

We've all laughed at chem end once or twice, but this goes far beyond what I ever imagined.

I don't know how to look at him. I've lost respect for the man I look up to and admired. Good men

don't tear others down. Good people don't do that in general. I don't know what to do. I want to

bring it up to him, but I don't know how to do it without him automatically getting defensive

and spouting off the same lines you hear from people. Get a thicker skin. The world isn't

kisses and rainbows, etc. Of course it isn't, but why can tribute to it? What do I do?

I'm confused because she's saying he's so nice normally, but then like she thinks that his reaction

when she brings it up will be like get a thicker skin. Whereas if I thought my husband of nine

years was so sweet and I would be like he'll be humiliated, he'll be so embarrassed, he'll be like

this isn't him, but she knows that he'll kind of like argue about it. So I'm like how sweet could he

really be? I genuinely would be scared to confront this person. I don't know why, because it's like a

different side of them. It's jekyll and high. Yeah. Like this would genuinely terrify me because

it's like who are you? Because it's not the person I thought I knew. And I would be scared of like

some retaliation or I just I don't even know. Like I just have like a weird feeling where I

feel like I I'm like would I even say anything or would I just quietly be like hey this isn't working

out? Yeah. I just I don't even know. Like I think that's so valid. Like a kind of person who can

disguise themselves so well and so successfully. Yeah. That is very chilling. It's just it's

clearly deeply deeply disturbing behavior to go on teenagers accounts on Tumblr. Yeah. Like you

are going out of your way to harass belittle degrade people or slash progress picks where people

are so proud of their progress and they're they're trying to better their health or their life

and you're shitting on them and maybe discouraging them. His account should be banned. His account should

be banned. But yeah, that's not at all what I expected when I heard the title. I was like thinking

it was going to be just you know arguing a lot or something like that. Yeah. Like shit post

interview in the devil's advocate. Yeah. But and even that I would have been like okay like that's

an unhealthy habit. But you know, I'm sure you can talk it through and get better. But this is

just like I don't think there's any coming back from that. It's just too spooky. This would I would

be like you need to go talk to someone you need therapy because this is insane behavior like

genuinely like this is not okay. This is despicable and if you feel the need to do this and comment

this type of stuff on other people's pages, pictures, whatever, there is something deeply wrong

with you whether you're that insecure. I don't know what it is, but you really need to get some help.

Yeah. Like genuinely. I would I'd even struggle to believe he's gotten better if he said he did

because he was so good at hiding it already. Yes. It's like you can just find a more secretive

way of doing it. You just like go another layer deeper. You get an extra phone and you only do it

at work. You do you know, there's always like a way to do it. And if you can't trust someone to be

honest with you of their own volition, I think that that's really hard to come back from especially

when the nature of what they're lying about is so heinous. So pulling it up on rare Reddit,

the top comment, damn, you just have to confront him and tell him everything you just told us.

What could possibly be his motivation? I always figured trolls were just lonely malcontents.

Malcontents? I don't know. I heard that one before. Yeah. Malcontents.

So when responded to that, they are. They are also extremely insecure and like to project negative

derogatory comments to others because that's how they feel about themselves. It's not something

that can change overnight. It's how they view others and will require hours upon hours of therapy.

Even if he does stop, the fact that he posts on multiple sites and various groups means

it's something that will stick with him for a long time. OP has a troll in close at her residence.

I can't I cannot get over her saying his reaction is going to be you need a tough

enough and get a thicker skin. They're just comments like what? No. And someone shares here too. They

link a article. It's coming from slate. It's titled internet trolls really are horrible people.

And they basically summarize in their comment this. Trolling has been linked by psychologist to

narcissism as well as sadism and psychopathic tendencies. Researchers have postulated that

trolling is an expression of Latin narcissistic rage where narcissists attacks and

blittles others as a way of maintaining perceived superiority. I haven't read the article. No

idea what it entails. I will be sure that we have it linked in the episode description. I'm

definitely going to read it after this. But yeah, well, he's literally telling teenagers to kill

themselves. A thing that teenagers famously will do. You know, like that's disgusting. A very

volatile, emotional, insecure time in everybody's life. And it's like that is a you're not even just

saying mean things. You want harm to come to people. Well, he's on the brink of fatherhood.

How can you not put yourself in these shoes now of what I'm saying to other people? If someone

said this to my teenage daughter, if someone said this, that is kind of scary where it's like he's

about to be in those shoes and still isn't connecting the dots in his head. Well, it's not my

daughter. So, it doesn't matter. And who even know maybe he would troll his own daughter. I've heard

stories about that too. Like, oh my god. No, there's been like only fans stuff. Yeah. The

Netflix doc. This keeps coming up. But like the Netflix doc of the mom that like literally was

harassing her daughter and trying to steal his boyfriend. Oh, I was thinking about the story of

the dad who was subscribed to his daughter's only fans. And then he was like her biggest

donateer than she found out about it. Mother what the hell? I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. That's a

fucking jump scare. I know. Yeah. Sorry. So, OP does respond to a few comments. Someone says,

you never suspected this kind of behavior based on how he interacts with you and others.

That's extremely horrifying. He seems like he has a lot of pent up anger or resentment and is

taking it out on people over the internet. I think the best thing to do is talk to him about it.

You're having a child with him and you can't just walk away from that as horrifying of a discovery

as this may be. But you need to be careful when you approach him. You weren't snooping. He left it

open. He can't get mad at you for that. Though I'm sure he will be extremely defensive. Update us

and let us know you're okay. What? I'm sorry. That's a little tame of a response. You can't just

walk away. You can just talk to him. What about this is like you can walk away at any time. Sometimes

you don't just walk away and say you're leaving. You just do it in covert ways. And you just leave

because that is the safest way. Yeah. Also, this was very minimal snooping. This might not even be

the full extent of what she would find. There's no way it's the full extent. And this was easy to

see. Yeah. OP responds. I don't intend on just walking away. But I am stunned and horrified

other kind of person. He's showing himself to be, you know. Another commenter says, how would you

know this when moderators and these subreddits delete those types of comments and subsequently

ban the username? He's trolling on some heavily moderated places. So we can't be making frequent

comments under one name. Do you have access to all of his troll accounts? OP said, there were comments

up that he had just left that morning. That's how I know. And again, I think that speaks to the

you are not even seeing the full pictures. This is the hose word just this morning. Just this morning.

Oh my God. Yeah. So we do get an update. This update is coming eight days later. I confronted him

about the issue very tamely over breakfast. I asked him flat out if he was harassing and bullying

people online. He said, yes. And immediately withdrew after telling him that I needed to know why

really why not just I don't know. He said he needed time to think about it. When he finally

gave me his answer, I was disappointed. He said he trolled and bullied people because it was an

outlet for him to relieve stress. He said he didn't view the people as real or that what he was doing

was anything other than a joke. And if it hurt feelings, quote, those people have bigger problems

and it's not my fault. No, the teenagers kind of like don't like that can that can be like

something that really becomes their biggest problem in a really awful way. And yeah, it's very

scary to say that the way you relieve stress is through harm. I think that again, we there's always

a fear that that can escalate, especially if you're just now about to have a child with this

person that's often the time that a thing like that can happen. So yeah, he would dread flag to be like,

oh, which is how I relieve stress is like telling people to kill themselves and like saying they're

disgusting and ugly and that they'll never be loved. And yeah, it's just how I, you know, it just

makes me feel better. I'm nauseous. I'm absolutely nauseous over this. Opie goes on to say, I told him

that it wasn't an acceptable behavior of an adult and that he needed to stop it and find another way

to express his frustrations that didn't involve hurting strangers. He said he would think about it.

Unfortunately, he is still doing it. I saw it happening a few mornings back and after he left,

looked again to see more comments and posts. I was disappointed. This was not the man I married or

so I thought, but I guess it is. I told him that we need to either go to counseling for this or

start the separation process. I told him that I couldn't trust him to help raise a child if he

speaks to strangers. Children included the way he does online. I let him know that I thought it was

cowardly, pathetic, and that I have lost a lot of respect for him. I knew this would be abrasive

and hurtful and I don't like that I had to tell him that, but I cannot look at him the same way.

We haven't had sex, have barely touched. I cannot see my husband as a loving, gentle man.

I'm not afraid of him, but I am disgusted with this behavior. This is the sort of thing children do.

I made an appointment for counseling for myself over this. Unfortunately, he told me that he wouldn't

be going to counseling because there's nothing wrong with what he's doing and he deserved to have

his me time and release his emotions. Scary, scary, scary, scary. This guy is scary.

And because I want to protect my child myself, I have asked him to leave the house. He's staying

with some friends, but I don't think this will lead to a reconciliation. I'd hope this story would

have gone another way. I mean, and you know he's reading this post. He is on Reddit.

I hope it was on the front page and he saw all the comments calling him a sicko. We do get another

update. Really? It comes six months later. Oh, okay, baby's here, baby's three months old.

So as you can see, it has been six months since this all started unfolding. Since then, I gave birth

to my beautiful daughter. She's the light of my life. And she is one of the easiest babies I've

ever been around. After one month of being a part, he contacted me and asked me if I would still be

willing to enter into counseling regarding our situation. Of course, after being together for so long

and us having a child, and my belief that marriage is not something to be taken lightly, I jumped at

this. In counseling, it was revealed that he was doing a lot more than what I knew about. He was

involved heavily in bullying people over the internet. And he said that this was his stress relief

that if people can't take it, then it's their problem, not his. He even admitted to being involved

in taking pictures of fat women and posting them on Reddit, taking them from Tumblr, etc. In general,

it was all worse than I had originally known. He moved to also doing individual therapy while

living at home and not meeting elsewhere. He then started to put his efforts elsewhere. He picked

up a few new hobbies to release his tension to. What an idea. He then decided that he would stop

and we slowly merged our family together again. I was feeling happy, ecstatic, really, that my

daughter would have the life that she deserved. Unfortunately, he still added. After three weeks of

being together and our lives seeming normal, I discovered from his friend that he was still harassing

and bullying teenagers, fat women, etc. I have reason to believe that he is one of the individuals

who bullied Lila Alcorn, as well as a few other trans teenagers. It broke my heart and solidified

my decision. It tried to have one more counseling session to really get through to him, but he defended

his actions as just the internet and not a big deal still. As of February, I filed for divorce.

It broke my heart and I wish there had been another way, but that's the end of the story. I can't

be in a marriage with someone who is so cruel to children. I just thought that that that that I can't.

My daughter and I are moving to a smaller house closer to my family. She will be raised around many,

many people who already love her. I mean, I guess that's a happy ending because when she said

they're emerging their lives back together, I got scared. I don't know. It's just that is a scary

person. There is a rage and a hate inside him and like a disregard for human life inside him. That is

like, I don't, yeah, I think it would take more than a month of therapy. I don't even know if

therapy could do it. I think there's something. I think he's, maybe like rehab for, I think so.

I don't know. He's getting a dopamine hit off of this. I think there's an article that came out from

I believe it was the cut that talked about like snark pages and they said that people that

participate in them do get hits of dopamine. I mean, you look at games like Candy Crush.

Even Candy Crush and why it was so big and addictive. It's dopamine, social media. Yeah.

There's so many things that you wouldn't even correlate with these dopamine rushes, but that's

what it is for him. It is genuinely, it's inexcusable. It is so disgusting. It seems like it's a

wiring issue. I don't even know what else to say. Yeah, whether or not he can ever even fix it.

It's like, okay, well, that's not on you because also it's like he could be good for a year and

just start doing it. There's just such a euphemous inside of him. I, yeah, you wouldn't want that

around you. You wouldn't want that around your daughter. It's scary. It's scary what he can hide

from you. I don't know how you would trust a person like that. From the first post, I was like,

there's no, there's no coming back from this. I think it is really sad. I didn't know about

Lila Alcorn and looking just a little bit from headlines about her story. She was a Ohio

teenager who posted a suicide note on Tumblr after. Again, someone you find out that your

husband's involved in something like that. He doesn't stop even from that happening.

You have these are very real consequences and still says it's just an outlet. No, he, I want to just

cattle prod electric. There's not even a single moment where she's like saying he feels bad about

it or saying he had a moment of wishing he hadn't hurt people. There was a moment of him saying

he would try therapy to get her back together. Which was a ploy. Yeah, but he's still doing it.

It's never once been like, yeah, I feel bad about it. I really shouldn't be doing this. No, he's

a monster. This is probably, this is one of the worst ones I think I've ever read. It's really

fucked up. This is probably worse to the worst. It's really fucking scary. Yeah. I'm so glad that

she has left him. She has a community that divorces finalize. And she got out safely before

things between them potentially became scary. I would like bring the people he's harassed

like over and make him look at them and like hear their testimony. I don't know.

What a person like him even care. I don't that's the thing. Like,

genuine monster. We haven't heard any, yeah, we haven't heard any remorse. So I don't know,

genuine monster. Okay, let's move on to this next one. I hope everyone's hanging in there after

that. I know a bit of a doozy, but he's evolving a little dark. That one's a little,

little lot of dark, a lot of dark there. This next one coming from our slash ask men. It is titled

shit stain after my third date. What happens now? Boys, here's one for you. Two days ago, I went on

a chill dinner slash walk around the park date with this girl. It's our third date and things are

going well. I can't say she's the one just yet, but we're vibing. We've hooked up once before,

but didn't do much. After the date, we go back to my apartment and things get frisky. We didn't

do anything too wild, but she ended up sleeping over with minimal clothes. I, of course, was button

naked. I knew she had to work in the morning, so she snuck out early and I have eyes opened to

say goodbye. And then I went back to sleep. And when I woke up and rolled over, I noticed in the

middle of the bed on my white sheets, a nice smear of a shit stain. Now, before you go on a blame

her, it was me. I was going to say, I wonder if it's a period because sometimes periods can be more

brown and like, I don't know, when you know, you know, it's been two days and I've heard very

little from her. There are 101 reasons why that is, but I'm bugging that she woke up, saw my gift

on the sheets and has been disgusted ever since. Should I acknowledge it? Should I attempt to blame her?

What? I hate this stuff. Should I block her number and run?

Only completely absurd advice requested, please. Okay, first of all, so sorry to be intruding on this

exclusive male space. I know you should have your safe places from women's opinions, but

women go here too to ask men for advice. That's what I initially was like thinking it might be of

like a, you know, I don't have, I'm this is a thing that my boyfriend did or my dad did.

And I'm curious about like some women do pop in and be like, Hey, coming from guys perspective

is this bubble blah blah blah. Okay. So it's typically geared towards a place to discuss men's

experience or whatever. So did he shit himself or just not wipe well enough? It's giving

didn't wipe. That's you have got to figure that out. I think more boys need bidets. Yes. Let's get,

that should be some promo bidet for boys, boys for bidets. I could see that on a side. I'm not a

parade. No, it have to be like real gruff men use, but wipe their ass. Real gruff men use bidets.

I think there needs to be a good PR movement because have you seen this is just like I hate this

video, but it's typically on TikTok as a promotional tool to sell the bidets. And you'll see people

rub peanut butter into carpet. And they're like, this is what it's like when you wipe your ass if

you're a dude and you have hair, you're just smushing the peanut butter into the carpet. Can I tell

you on my first podcast or first sponsor was a bidet and one of the ad read things was like

if you got shit on your arm, would wiping it make you feel clean enough? No. So why would you do

that with your ass? That is a great promotional tool. I know. That's a line. That's a line. So I

think he needs a bidet and you can't do the wipes. And I know a lot of people get the flushable wipes.

Wipes are not flushable. Do not do that. I found that out. I found that out too. The hard way. No,

just I'd been using them and then I found out later, but I was at a rental anyway. So it's like

I don't really see the long-term consequences of my actions in that way. But someone will.

So every now and again, we got to remind people, wipes, tampons, not flushable. Yeah. Basic hygiene

could have prevented this. It being like, fellas, should I tell her it was her? Yeah. What? Let me

gas like her. Let me text you being like, hey, you shit on my bed. What? Also, your bed hog.

Why was it in the middle if you're sleeping with another person? Maybe it happened after she left.

Also, she's got some clothes on and you sleep butt naked. What happened to a pair of boxers?

My guides. Third date. Clearly, you need them. Like, I don't want to be sleeping and then all of a

sudden I just like my hands, third date. No, no. Yeah. Your pants on. I don't like his vibe. I don't

like his energy. I'm not on, I'm not on board either. The line here where he's like, now before

you go on to blame her, it was me. You know when you know, like, do you feel like this is happening

to him quite often? Maybe. I feel like when I was in college, I remember so many girls having

experiences of men peeing themselves in bed. That has never happened to me. It hasn't happened to

me. Well, to my knowledge, I guess, either, but I do think that that happens a lot when

guys are drunk. Now, shitting oneself. Probably less likely, but then, you know, if he doesn't wipe

when he sleeps naked, of course this has happened before. Yeah. He doesn't clean up after himself

and then he just puts himself on white sheets. Well, no, if this is happening a lot, you think he'd

maybe get some black sheets. Brown sheets. Brown. Yeah. So from Opie's post history, again, seemingly

very real posting an R-slash parenting, severe anxiety about letting my kids sleep over at other

people's houses is this common, I would say yes. So has a seven year old son, runs his own

marketing as a solo founder of a company. Okay. Yeah. That's cool. Look at you, boy, boss.

Just get a bidet for real. Just get a bidet and don't try to pull fast one on women to blame them

for your shit. Whoa. Look at that. Top comment on this one. Sweet crystal ad. You shit the bed on

the third date. There's no coming back from that. It's so funny how many poop puns? Yeah, like

puns there are that this is yeah. I really enjoy it. Next comment quite literally, shit out of luck.

He really shit the bed on this one. Oh, and put her in a shitty situation. A situation. A

situation ship. Oh my god. Wow, we're so aligned. Shit happens. Me and that Reddit user. I'm just

going down the line. These are all like, oh, oh, I see people punning punning together. Yeah, yeah,

we got a lot of creativity here. This is officially shitty. A shitty situation. Did anyone give

them actual advice? Someone says this one does have a red box in this award. So maybe, but they say,

don't say that. There's always a chance just not with her. You shit the bed, bro. Cut ties and

pray shouldn't snap a pic before she left. Yeah. I mean, if you're, if she really see, though,

I see her not see she maybe didn't see. I honestly feel like someone shitting themselves

would be way less bad to me than them just like not having hygiene in their day to day life.

Like, because that can happen. And that's like out of someone's control. You know,

so like, there's a way to like kind of get over that. But if they just like live like that,

then it's like, well, I feel like if there was more than one streak on the bed, then it's kind of

cause for concern. But you know, sometimes it just happens. Like, maybe, you know, it sounded like

the way he described it. And I hate to say this. It sounded like more than a smear. It sounded like a

shard. Well, I think it was a shard because butts are really deep. Like, I don't know. Like,

where your butthole is like for you to skidmark a bed like that's unless you have like just a

really, you don't have a lot of cushion on your butt. Like, that's deep in there.

Yeah, you'd really have to like drag your ass across the bed like a dog on garbage. Yeah.

Yeah. Like, that's what I'm envisioning. And we've had a story in the past where I think it was

on our bad hygiene episode very early on where someone like sat on the bed and did drag. And

that's happened for me where like, I thought my period was done. And I don't know. You just get a

little smudge. Yeah. But that is a period is a thing where you are actively leaking throughout the

day. And there's no control. Yeah. When it just seeps out. Like, there's no like, you don't just like

wipe it. No, you're at your periods mercy. But I do think, yeah, I don't know this guy's entire

hygienic situation. I don't know how I don't know if he's shot himself. I don't know if he

should himself. And I don't know if he just didn't wipe one of those. But what I will say,

get a bidet and wear some boxers to bed or whatever. Break. I don't know. I don't have it.

I don't know. I don't know. I'm strong feelings for underwear fans. There's another comment here.

Coming from a female commenter, it actually has a badge under their username. And they go,

I actually had this happen once. We were pretty early on in staying the night together. And soon

after intimacy one night, it was discovered. I don't know for sure what happened. And I didn't ask.

I just calmly told him I had another set of clean sheets and we swapped them. It never happened

again. And I never found out why it happened then. He's a super good guy, though. I ended up

marrying him. And we've been together just shy of a decade. There may be hope just probably very

little. Yeah, that's the thing is like, I feel like I hear stories all the time of people dating

and like a really crazy situation like that happening early on. And then they like get married.

Like, I don't know, throw, throw up on them or like, do shit themselves or pee themselves in the

bed or whatever. And then it's like, but you know, we're in love now. And they really took care of

me in that moment. It was really nice. I literally have the most horrendous story. And I can't

even share it. Well, I can. It's not about me. It's quite literally not about me. But if you are

eating lunch right now, please skip, skip ahead. Oh, no. Skip, skip, skip, like literally three minutes.

So I have this friend that like Lauren and I are mutuals with and like not really anymore because

of just like bad behavior on her part. But I actually recorded a podcast episode with her. It was

supposed to be episode number four. Oh, it you didn't post it. And I never posted it. And we just

stopped being friends because of some bad behavior. And on her part, so she wasn't at your wedding,

was not at my wedding. And is no longer friends with basically the whole group of girls anymore

because like she just was not a good friend. But maybe we recorded an episode and she was like, yeah,

like as I was six, nine in with someone, my stomach was hurting. Okay. And

God be good to me. I can't. Just I'm hurt. Okay. She thought she would fart. Morgan. Uh-huh.

My gentle ears. And they dated for quite some time after she did that. I don't know. Sometimes

like, I mean, on a space in his mouth, working like they threw up six hours ago. I'm so sorry.

That's okay. You can. We're gonna get soup after this. It's gonna be fine. Oh my God. Yeah.

So like stuff happens. And like they moved past it and dated for I think she said like two years.

But that's what I'm saying is like, that's why I think shitting yourself is so much more forgivable

than not wiping your ass so badly that you're leaving that now. So if he sharded, there's a chance.

True skin mark. I would I would send her a text. Well, I don't know because I guess if there's

a chance she didn't see it. She's not so. Yeah. And she's not ignoring him. He's just days. It's been two

days. And I've heard very little from her. So not ghosting. Okay. Not ignoring. I'd go out and see.

You know, maybe she's a nurse. Maybe she thought it was her somehow through her underwear. How do

you pry about something like that without saying it if they don't know already? Just being like,

Hey, I don't know. I feel like, okay, I feel like if someone was honest like this with me,

it would probably make me like them more. Like, hey, I don't know if you saw something. I'm really

embarrassed. That's never happened to me before such such as silly accident. And it certainly was in

your fault. I honestly, yeah, I don't know. I think I think there's a chance. There's a chance.

I hope he keeps us posted. We have no update on this yet. It is still relatively new just coming

from like two weeks ago now. And he's been posting since on our slash parenting and ask men again.

So we could we could get an update on this one. I wish you well, buddy. Yeah. Hope you find love.

Yeah. And wear some boxers to bed next time. And also if she did see it and thought it was her,

I think you saying it was I feel like she would be even less comfortable talking with you thinking

it was her. Cause if she saw it and thinks there's a chance it was her, she knows you're going to

see it because it's your bed and it's your white sheets. Like it's a guarantee that you see it. Yeah.

So I think taking that off of her might make her feel more comfortable too. I don't know. I think so.

I hope we get an update. Yeah. What would have saved him though is a diaper. This next one has to

do with diapers transition. Hey. This is coming from our slash relationships titled my boyfriend

recently confessed that he likes to dress up as a baby sometimes and act and talk like one.

He has a secret room now. He wants me to have weird creepy baby sex with me. Do I end it? I feel

very guilty and it's tearing me up. I 27 female have known my boyfriend 28 male since we were 13.

We've been together for five years. A week or so ago he sat me down and said he had something

he needed to tell me. He called my brother their best friends and asked him to be there for him

for support when he confessed to me. My brother looked so uncomfortable. My boyfriend looked sad,

afraid and was green in the face. I thought someone was about to confess a murder or a gay affair.

I would have preferred either of those actually. My boyfriend confessed that since he was a kid,

he has had a fascination with babies and has always felt sad that he couldn't be one.

Has always had urges to be a baby and act and talk like one. He told me that in his free time,

he does all of this when he is alone. At first I thought it was some kind of joke as I didn't

understand why my own brother had to be there for the conversation. I asked my brother to please

leave so I could talk to my boyfriend, Jim. Then Jim got upset and teary and asked me if I still

loved him. What? Now I understand that everyone has quirks and fetishes but I have never even heard of

something like this. I've been googling it and researching it though and I found an episode of

Dr. Phil that talked about it. I told him that I wouldn't judge him. I just didn't really want to

see that. What he does in his free time isn't my business but I didn't want to see him like that.

Jim was happy and agreed. Everything went back to normal and I actually started to feel really

happy that he had opened up to me and I felt like our relationship was now more open. Then I began to

notice my brother and Jim spending a weird amount of time together talking on the phone and hanging

out. Then one night I just felt very sad and kind of jealous. Jim hadn't really been talking to

me like he used to. I confronted Jim and asked him why him and my brother had been spending so much

time together the past few days. Jim said that my brother gets him and understands. Doesn't judge

him. I cry and tell Jim that I love and understand him very much and I don't judge him and that I'm

sorry for telling him that I don't want to see him as a baby. I tell him that I'm really sad that

he hasn't been treating me the same since he told me and that he has been talking to my brother more.

Jim says that my brother has seen something that I have never seen. At this point, I'm just hysterical.

What kind of games is he playing? I ask Jim what he's talking about. Jim asks if I really do love him

and I show that yes, I do love him. So the next day Jim brings me to his house and into a room

that I had never even really noticed before as it's in the back of his house and kind of hidden.

He shows me the room and says this is where he goes when he wants to be who he really is. The whole room

looks like a baby's room. A crib stuffed animals. I ask to look around and he says yes. I begin to look

around and notice diapers. I was honestly so taken aback that I didn't really respond appropriately.

I asked what the fuck is this? Jim tells me he often wears diapers. I had never even considered

that this was a possibility when he confessed to me. I should have responded better, but I was

disgusted and Jim got upset and started crying and told me to get out of his room. I went home to

collect myself and called him later that night and we talked for a long time. Things seem to be

resolved and we made many promises to each other. We have an active sex life. Never has Jim asked

me to do anything even remotely weird in the bedroom. But last night, Jim asked me if I would

mind him dressing up as a baby the next time we had sex. I tried to be supportive but told him that

it would take me a while to get used to that. He then started begging me and saying that it's what

he really wanted and that he would do it for me if the situation was reversed. I said okay, we can

try. So he puts on his baby stuff and we get in a bed. He asked me to start rubbing him and

cwing to him, quote, tell me you love me and would never hurt me and all of this other weird stuff.

He wanted me to say, shh, baby, and undo his onesie and touch him. At this point, I couldn't go on and

said that I had to stop. I got up from the bed and went into the bathroom. I couldn't look at myself

in the mirror. I threw up and started crying. I've known Jim for so long and I've loved him with

all of my heart. He was there for me when my dad died and there for me when I graduated college

and there for me when I got my dream job. He has always supported me no matter what. I felt horrible

that I have trouble supporting him through this. I feel like the worst girlfriend on the planet.

I want to support Jim and let him know that I'm really trying here but lately I haven't been

able to find comforting words. I feel like I've gone about this all wrong. But then a part of me

does not want this relationship anymore. Whenever I look at him, it's not the same anymore. It's

tearing me apart. I'm having trouble remembering the love. Instead, I feel like I've lost the real

Jim that I've always known and loved. Like he died and has been replaced by a new Jim. To make it

worse, my brother has been very mean to me, saying, I'm a bad girlfriend. He's even called me over

40 times since last night, leaving voicemails on my phone that I am a bad, unsupportive girlfriend

and that he is ashamed to be my brother. Can someone help me? Do I fight for this relationship?

Do I end it? How do I deal with all these new doubts? How do I explain properly my feelings to Jim?

I'm terrible with words. How can I explain my point of view to my brother? Thanks in advance if you

answer this. I feel like this isn't like the rarest kink in the world. Like I definitely have seen

this in media and like heard that this is a thing. I literally just shared a video on the

two out of takes Instagram that was an investigative story talking about this. And it was interesting at

the end where people were like, how do you discover this fetish of yours? And they were like,

reddit and I was like, I'm interested. Sorry, do go on. No, but I was just going to say with that said,

like I'm not super knowledgeable on like what gives the person this fetish. And like what I will

say is that it did sound like he was forcing her into a kind of pedophilic dynamic with the way

that the sexual interaction ended up going down. Yeah. And I think that I mean, that's why she threw

up and like what felt so disgusted with herself. You do make an interesting point here because there

is a thread where someone says what OP says they quote it, he would do it for me if the situation

was reversed. And they go, this is straight up manipulation. Regardless of the fetish, it's not

okay to guilt your partner into doing something for you just because they'd do it for you. It's not

about a fetish. This is about the fact that your boyfriend has absolutely no problem in using

manipulative catch phrases to get you into doing things that are uncomfortable. This is backed up

by the fact that he has sufficiently manipulated your brother against you as well.

Frankly, whatever the fetish, it's irrelevant. His approach is never ever okay. This is someone

you want to get out of your life pronto. He will blame it on the baby fetish and complain

that you're bigoted and judgmental and that's okay. You know the reason why you're ending it.

And that's all that matters. And OP responds and says, yes, when he said that to me, I just felt

horrible and like I should be supporting him 100%. But it was just so hard for me. It felt like I

was some sort of child molester, even though Jim is not really a baby. But still, I don't know.

I have been trying to get used to the idea. And someone responds, honey, you don't have to get used

to the idea. If it makes you uncomfortable, you don't do it. It's that simple. He cannot make

you do something sexual that you don't want to. We all know what that's called. And OP responds,

thank you very much. Yeah, I think that that's why it's so sticky for us feeling like talking about

it even because there's there's fantasy, which technically doesn't hurt anybody. But then it's like,

are all fantasies okay? And I guess that's a good point.

Like moral thing where it's like dilemma. Yeah, hearing those words, a lot of us are very uncomfortable.

And I don't know enough about this. I've seen like there's now studies coming out on this. I when I

started looking into it, it's typically called ABDL, adult baby diaper lover or age play. And

yeah, age plays a safe legal, consensual form like as long as it is consensual. But it's essentially

like they're trying to derive emotional comfort, stress relief, whatever. Like so this is now being

really studied. And I think the first time it was documented was like the 60s. But there's a bunch

of different things like adult babies, diaper lovers, caregiver little dynamics. The common motivations

are stress relief, escapism, emotional comfort. So I don't like sure. I don't like I will say like there

is a thing where people are like it is decidedly separate from pedophilia like psychologists are

really trying to establish that it seems. And I know there's like a big I don't know. I feel like

online there's a lot of discourse of like don't kink shame. I don't feel like it's necessarily kink

shaming just to be like what he's doing with the partner isn't right. And like it's not really

about the diaper and the baby stuff. It's like co-hersing your partner and doing stuff that they're not

comfortable with and not into. And recruiting the brother is so weird. The way he's going about it. And

like having a kink is one thing. But I also think if you have a kink that is so out there, like you

have to have a little understanding of this is going to take my partner time. They're not really

into this. Like this is a very unique thing that I'm into that you know would be amazing if she

participated in. But like she's not required to be open and transparent up front. But instead he's

like being mad at her and like manipulative. Yeah. Yeah. Very co-hersive judgmental like

towards her. Yeah. Again sticky like you said. And it would make her feel very icky to continue

doing that clearly from how she said it. Based on what she's saying. Absolutely. Like this goes against

what you're into and what you feel. And there's nothing wrong with that. Break up. Like there's no

other way forward. You're not right. You're not a match. I also just think the way that he's handled.

He and the brother have handled the brother situation has been very weird to like like how are

these conversations coming across with each other. It almost feels like she's the bad guy in their

conversations. And it's just like you haven't. You didn't give her a chance initially. And then

she was accepting of it just you know understandably she wasn't into it. So again she's trying

everything she can to like support this whole thing. She's given it a fair shake. She saw the room.

She like started the process with him. Rubbed his belly. And she's trying. She really did try

because of her love for him. And now you've just gotten to this point where it's like she's not on

board. This is not what she's the bad guy to her brother. I'm ashamed that you're my sister. I'm

almost wondering if the brother has been involved with him in the past. It feels that way. And is like

almost like offended that she has such a hard time with it because maybe he doesn't. I definitely

think he has the same thing. I could see the brother. That's what I'm saying. Like I could see the

brother in the maybe he was gonna also admit it in that conversation. But he kind of like chickened

out. And that's why he was there. Yeah. Like they were both gonna say it. And it was gonna be like

okay, we'll both tell her. And then it'll be less weird. It's it's odd. The commenters kind of

really pick apart on that too about the brother. Someone quotes the fact that he called OP like 40 times

and they go what? What the sweet holy living fuck is wrong with your brother. That's actually the

weirdest part out of all of this to me. Who does that? Pressures their sister in a fetish play?

Oh, you don't need to explain a goddamn thing about your reaction to your brother. The fact that

he's even demanding an explanation is so far beyond inappropriate. I don't have words for it.

The only thing your brother deserves is a come to Jesus talk that he is to never get this involved

in your sex life again. Get in the issue of your boyfriend's fetish. I don't think there's anything

wrong with it. But there's also nothing wrong with you for not wanting to be a part of it. I think

you would be best served treating this like any other sexual incompatibility. It's okay for him to

want what he wants. And it's okay for you to not want what you don't want. I don't want to say

your relationship is over. That's for you to to determine. But this may have the ending that you

are respectful of your boyfriend's needs while being realistic about the fact that you will not

be the one to meet them. Yeah, they're also like only kind of coming down on the brother for that

of like he shouldn't be getting involved in your sex life. But also the boyfriend shouldn't be

texting the brother about their sex life and giving him the details for him to know about it.

Lack of boundaries. Yeah. Weird, weird dynamic. And again, people just pick up on that. Like

it's a sucky move by using your brother to coerce or pressure you into this fetish. You tried. It's

just not your thing. Don't go guilt tripping yourself. You shouldn't be pressured into anything. And

I think that's like on the main point too. Like everyone is going to do what pleases them and gets

their rocks off. But like you don't have to do anything that makes you uncomfortable. Yeah.

The hot part about sex is two people that are fully consenting and making that decision to

fuck around and fun ways together, explore whatever. But if one person is uncomfortable, how is

that fun? Exactly. That's not fun. So just I like the fact that someone says treat it as any

other sexual incompatibility. Because that's the case. I've slept with people and we just don't

fit right together. We don't mash. We have different styles. And like that's okay. But it's sad

because they did before. So it's like damn. Yeah. Or did they really? Did they really or was that

kind of performative? I don't know. I guess I'm just taking her word for it. I mean, she does say

we have an active sex life. Yeah. So yeah, it is interesting how it's like I wonder if something's

shifted with him where it's like he now needs this more and more. The brother validating him that it's

like yeah, important for him to I think you're spot on though that I think there's some other

involvement there like where the brothers and it is as well or like yeah, maybe they've done

stuff together. Like it does feel well, they've certainly talked about it already because like the

brother knew before she did. Yeah. Which is also why does my why did you how did you even come up

between you and my brother? How did you like it's weird to have this bond with each other. But then

also what was the first moment one of you disclosed this with the other and why did you feel comfortable

doing that? I could so see it just they got super high one night and he's like dude something crazy.

I never thought I'd admit this like I like dressing up as a baby. Like I could just see it coming out.

Yeah. I guess the other guys like me too. Me too bro. Yeah. What does that look like?

curious. I want to try like who knows. I don't know. But either way unhealthy boundaries here and

honestly I'd consider going low contact, no contact with my brother. And I think you have to kind

of talk with your boyfriend and just be like I love you but this isn't working anymore. Yeah.

Crazy. She kind of summed that up at the end too being like I don't look at him the same. So

you know in your heart you know. And can only do what makes sense for your life and how you feel.

Can't stay with someone because you feel bad. Yeah. That's not fair to either of you.

No good luck. Let us know guys. I'm you know let us know. I'm in the comments. Like where does it

come from? Where does the you know I could see you you're a curious cat like law. I'm probably

going to look. You're going to watch a little documentary on this. Yeah. Get into the DSM-5. It's

in there. Oh I'm sure. Yeah. I think usually when I've heard of this kink it's been like these

CEO men who were like so in control in their everyday life that the way they get their rock

soft is going home putting on a diaper and getting spanked. Yeah. I just saw a video from a

Dominate Tricks who gets paid a thousand dollars an hour. Wow. To like spank and whatever they

want. I guess I guess that's different though because one would be this this guy seems interested

in the cuddling and the sweetness of it. Right. And then but that's so that's different from

like this punishment. I'm sure there's a Dominate Tricks for the baby stuff though. That's kind of

what the video I saw was about this woman who gets paid to be the caregiver. Yeah. All right. I mean

there's someone out there for everyone. I truly believe that there's a right shooter that everyone's

to someone's left or whatever that saying is. Yeah. Find your person at the end of the day.

Just find your person. Find your mommy. Whatever you want. Maybe I don't know. Yeah.

I'm not wanting to say. So Pat that each and every one of us will have to go down and discover.

But okay. Off to this next one. It's coming from a relationship advice. Seven days old.

Kitled married 38 male yet fell in love with my neighbor 31 female. I've been married for 16

years with my wife since we were 14. We have a couple of kids and a new neighbor moved in with

her boyfriend. They have a kid our kids play. It's gone to the point where we see each other every

day. She's the last person I think about before bed and the first person each day. We just went

on a family overnight to a water park. Hers and mine. Basically our lives are intertwined at this

point. We have just about everything in common and very much enjoy each other. My issue is I don't

want to and will not cheat parentheses physically. Oh, but that's not because of my morals. It's because

I see a future with her and I don't want that to be our start. I'm effed thoughts. Oh my god.

Heartbreak heartbreak for the wife. First of all, does this girl have any idea? She's in a

relationship. She's got a kid. She might not have the foggiest clue. He's already like 10 steps ahead

being like, I'm not going to cheat with her while we're while I'm with my wife still because I don't

want our incredible beautiful future to be tarnished by that. And she's like, yeah, that's my name.

I'm a neighbor. No, it's probably. It's probably so unreciprocated. Yeah. Like it's just

more embarrassing to I feel like for the wife. And this is similar to the other story we read about

like the cheating and then getting rejected and coming back. It's like, oh my god, I had a friend

who's ex tried to cheat on her, but the girls didn't reply. And then he'd be like, oh,

like I didn't cheat on you. She's like, this is more embarrassing. It's more embarrassing.

Yeah. It's definitely more embarrassing. Oh, yeah, I don't think she knows. I can't imagine her

knowing. Well, I think he would like give an example of a moment they've had together. If they'd

been having moments together, you know, I mean, the one girl that was in love with her manager

and was like, should I, should I doubt him? I mean, they at least had a brush of a sleeve.

Like she's got, she's got a sleeve brush on this guy. Maybe something like at the water park.

I don't, I don't, there's anything. I think he's just obsessed. Yeah, he's obsessed. Like he

isn't love with her. Yeah. And he also hasn't said anything about her personality in this post.

He's not like, she's so funny. We, we have this in common. Like she makes me feel this way. She's

a breath of fresh. Like, I don't know. There's just, I love her. I love her and we're going to have

a future together. And I don't want to cheat on my wife because I love her so much. Yeah. No, he's like,

we've got just about everything in common, but. Oh, okay. Well, that's very surface though. Yeah,

I doubt it. And also like as you meet someone and you're making friends like, you're going to,

of course, be like, yeah, I love that too. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. I mean, like, oh my god, they do that

on love is blind all the time. They'll be like, you also love Christmas. I love Christmas. I've never

missed, I've never met biggest fans. Anybody else who loves Christmas. Oh my god. What are the chances

that we know Christmas? The one line here that really threw me for a loop though. My issue is,

I don't want to and will not cheat. And for him to put then parentheses physically.

So you'll cheat emotionally. Yeah. Which for a lot of people is worse. To me, yeah, I'm like

an emotional affair feels worse than just like a one night stand. I mean, especially in this context

of like we're all hanging out as couples as families together. I know her like me saying,

I'm the wife in the situation, I know her like, this has been happening under my nose. And yeah,

to hear that your husband isn't going to cheat on you, not because of his dedication to you,

but because he does, he loves this other woman so much and doesn't want the way that their

beginning looks like to be anything less than like beautiful and perfect. It's awful. Yeah,

it's more about like the optics for people. The top comment on this one obsession. That's the

word you seem to be looking for here. Yeah. Next comment down. Limerence is the word dudes about

to blow up his whole life. That one fits better. Hadn't run into that word before. Thank you. And

yeah, I feel for the wife and kids sitting on a ticking time bomb like that. Mace me almost hope

that this is rage bait. OP has since deleted his entire Reddit account, which really sometimes

some people do that. It actually makes me feel like it's more real because he's like, oh my god,

I need this gone. This can't be connected to me in any way, delete account. Not just delete

delete the post, delete account. Honestly, I feel like he tried something, got rejected, was so

embarrassed, deleted any trace of it. God, do you think in just if a situation like that happened

that the girl should tell his wife? Yeah. It sucks. It's going to make things awkward.

Going forward, especially your neighbors, like do they own their homes or they just renting?

If I was the neighbor and like this dude confess feelings to me, I'd, oh my god, I would want to

move so bad. Of course. It'd be so weirded out. Also, it's like if it does blow up his life,

he could have resentment toward you about it. Yeah. And like have now this, that love could turn

into anger and hate and animosity. And now he's your next door neighbor. But I think yeah,

I agree with you about telling someone to set a buck. No, no, no.

About telling the wife because I think like that one comment said about him being a taking time

bomb. I think that that's like a very apt way of looking at it. I agree because I don't think

this is like a if it's going to go wrong. I think it's when it's going to go wrong. And how bad?

Yeah. I do want to give people the definition of limmerance. I know we've mentioned it before on

another story, but limmerance is an intense involuntary state of obsession and infatuation

and emotional dependence on another person driven largely by uncertainty and the desire for

reciprocation. We have that in story of the woman cheating with the guy the gym. Her

or my god, the trainer wanting to cheat with the trainer. That's where I came up. And the trainer

didn't like her back. I think the trainer was like, what the hell? No, like, dude, she's sending me

nudes. Yeah, I was like, that was a really crazy one. Do totally one side of session thing.

Talk about a jump scare there. That was wild. A lot of affairs going on. I know. And why

why turn to red it? It's also so embarrassing because in all three of the affair stories like the

two today and the one that we just referenced, the person who cheated was then not fully wanted

by the person they cheated with or like attempted to cheat with, I guess. I wonder if there's stats

out there because I feel like that's more common than not. Yeah. Then like them actually getting

married and ending up together. Yeah. Yeah. I could see that being more common of like, it's just

not reciprocated. And yeah. Okay. Yeah. I wish we could know a little bit more about the girl's

side of things. And like if there's actually anything there or not, maybe I doubt it.

Maybe she's out there. Maybe she'll see it. Oh my god. If you're out there, please. If you,

yeah. I feel like it would be pretty identifying story. Like the trip that they want to get.

Yeah. And then you're like, you're sitting there listening to the story and you're like, oh my god,

yeah, we just went to the Great Wolf Lodge. Huh. The ages are in it. Yeah. Yeah. That's ringing

about new neighbor kids. Great Wolf Lodge. These DMs. Yeah. This is me. That's all we got on jump

scare. I hope you all are okay out there. I don't think Michaela is. We will have some more

stories from Patreon. Michaela's probably thinking I don't want to be a part of that. Listen,

I'm partially horrified. Partially like was I too harsh and like is there is this really coming

from you know, like an okay place and I've been too hasty with judgment or is this really coming

from, you know, a place I don't like. But but and so I'm going to be much deferred to you.

You know, I'll go home tonight. I'll sleep on it. I'll read comments and figure it out.

I'm going there. Thank you guys so much for being here another episode. Until next time. Bye.