262 The Intel Game - Knowledge Is Power

0:00The End Took a long time to get here. Go ahead, punch it in. Woah! Welcome to the bunker. Yeah, it's, we're talking about intelligence collecting, collecting, collecting for shit it's a fan you know, home status, preppers, survivalist stuff, urban, urban, urban

1:04preppers, anybody who's out there that you know lives in this lifestyle that you know, crosses references, you know, what preppers, survival, so you know, all the things you mentioned. Okay. Okay, so, so let's start with first of all, you're really taking this one on. So let's start with how you got started. Okay, well, I started prepping way, you know, about 2008, was still in the military at the time. I had a background in reconnaissance, so I kind of worked in the Intel world slightly. I had other assignments where I had to learn, and I took some classes, they gave me some brief classes on, you know, Intel collection, I'd go to a lot of briefings, ran a couple special, specialty, you can call them cartoons or specialty units that I had to, you know, it just fell into my plate that I was, you know, the Intel guy, so I would do briefings, I'd go to briefings,

2:07I would give briefings and so on. And you enjoyed it, obviously you have a passion for it. So, yeah, and one of the ways that I figured out that I could keep my self in the battle, you know, so to speak was, you know, after you get older, you get slower, you know, I don't run the gun as quick as I used to, not as fast, I was at Agile, you know, as I used to be. So I want to use my brain more than my back, so to speak. And so it was something I always wanted to learn. And so I started, I took a couple of classes out there out there. Actually, I got some pretty good stuff from ex-military people on the outside. Oh, okay. So training. Yeah, training. And so I'm a student of life, I'm always out there trying to what we call improvement the foxhole. If they call that continuing education, yeah, continuing education, I'm constantly taking continued education. So, okay, for the average civilian prepper, okay, so that we're not talking military intelligence

3:12gathering intelligence collecting area studies, these things. So how does this translate for the the regular everyday prepper survivalist community? So basically, you know, you have an end goal in mind with intelligence collecting. You don't want to live your life, you know, in general, at least I think you wouldn't want to live your life in a black hole where you can't see, you know, what's going on around you. I like to say that I'm a winner and I like to win. So in order to win, you got a better your chances. Well, how are you going to better your chances as a prepper survivalist, you know, homesteader, urban prepper, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Well, you need to know what's going on around you because you're not going to be able to prep for everything. I mean, there's too many knowledge is the key, knowledge is power. You need that knowledge in order to prepare yourself hence the word prepping or yourself for what's going to come. So if it's a shit, it's a fan event,

4:16if it's a natural disaster, whatever it may be. And basically, there's a lot of unknowns out there that you just don't know. I mean, there's, I've been doing this for, I don't know, let's see, 2017, maybe 2018. And I don't know everything. I do what's called area study. And I've taken many classes from Mike Shelby and he wrote a couple books and he's got a new one out on how to do an area study. I highly suggest you get that book and you dive into it and you read, we'll put it in the show notes. We'll put it in the show notes. That's great. And maybe even 10 to one of his classes because he'll put you in a workshop and it's kind of, I'm going to say it's not expensive when you look at that information you get. Can you put an actual price tag on your life or your family's life, your survival? So the way I look at it is it's priceless and it's a bargain for what he charges for

5:21this class. But he'll walk you through an area study to where you leave out of there with at the very minimum of basic knowledge of how to do an area study and you can go back and work on it. Now area study is a fluid document. You're always improving it. There's new things that come in. There's things that go out. So you're always evolving with that area study. Just like the wind blows and then it doesn't blow wind blows from a different direction. So what does this look like? Is this is this stuff that you're all just collecting in your head or you actually have a notebook or I mean, are you putting it to you putting pen to paper? Are you you know clicking click on the computer? What are you doing with this? So there's a lot of different ways you can do that. You can you know do massive spreadsheets if you're if you're one of those spreadsheet guys. I'm kind of a three ring binder type of person where I'll put it on in a three-winding binder and there's a lot of reasons why I do that. It's kind of old school. I'm waste. I'm killing trees. You know, hey, I've got several binders, but I can take those binders with me if I need to. If the shit is a fan and I

6:28need to bug out, I have a bug out binder that has maps in it and so on to some of the things I'll mention later. I'll grab that and take off and go. So we're not actually I don't want to talk about an area study because it takes weeks to do to yeah. Yeah. We'll do area study on a importance of it and all that on another episode. Yeah. We'll just take to the actual intelligence guy and where I'm going to be asking you about the ints coming up soon. So get those in your brain because I don't understand them and you will and you're going to you're going to help us with that. Okay. Before we get to that, is there is there a difference between how well because you were in the military the army? Is there a difference way the military does intelligence collecting and that in the way that the regular everyday prepper such as myself would do? That's a great question. So everything is pretty much based on what the military does. I'll try to use common language, but I'm military minded. So you can do what my ex-wife used to do

7:34is call time out and say what what is that acronym? You know, if I'm using an acronym or something that you don't understand in military speak. So you can come out and you know, call time out and I'll elaborate, you know, those kind of things. Well, our military has been doing it for over 250 years. I'm sure it's been improved over that time. So why not take it from, you know, military standpoint? I'm just wondering how differences between what what okay, what the military is capable and allowed to do legally and then what maybe what, you know, I'm sure this things that I would like to learn that are probably illegal for me to try and find. Oh okay, that's yeah, that's a good question too. So the military has a lot of tools in their toolbox. So mostly a lot of stuff we don't have and hold on a second here. So with the military and all their tools in the toolbox, they're they're going to be able to do things we can't. We don't have these magic points that can count the change in your pocket.

8:36We just don't have that. So we have to get creative and go old school with some of the ways of collecting intelligence. Now intelligence collecting is done in the corporate world. I've actually done a little bit of that. I've done it in the political world. There's a lot of that going on, especially this political season. I've done a little bit of that. I've done a collection with different groups that have you said you had clients at one time that you were collecting information for. Yeah, that's an ongoing thing. So you know, I'll get people on and off to where, you know, they'll say, hey, can you help me out with this? Okay, yes. What do you need? What what what's your requirements? What are you looking for? And we'll talk about that whole process as we go. But the intelligence collection is is done every day with a lot of different groups. You know, not just the military and for preppers, a prepper, this is going to help you survive.

9:38You know, like I said, I like to win. And if you want to win, this is something you look at. So it's going to be what we call the military combat multiplier for you. You're going to be able to better your chances at survival because you have the knowledge now. You have a plan that you developed from not just pulling something out of your ass. You have a plan that is based on data facts. A lot of different things brought together to formulate your plan. And hopefully you can execute that. Okay. What does a solid area study look like for a prepper? Your area study is every it incorporates every damn thing in your life. And we're talking your neighbors, the weather, the upcoming weather, the past trends. You're going to have, you know, your demographics from the city you live in or the community you live in or the county state. And we'll go more into this later.

10:38Oh, yeah. Demographics. I didn't think about that. Yeah. There's so many factors involved in an area study that it's infinite. And that's why it's in a it's a fluid document that's, you know, you're working your way changing. Yeah. You're continually changing it is fluid. You're taking stuff in you're moving stuff out. You know, the data you the data is only good is the minute you gather it because data is changing all the time. Information is changing all the time. The world we live in change all the time. So you got to kind of keep that in mind as you're doing an area study. And then again, you know, you know, you know, just power, knowledge is a key, knowledge is strength. So gaining that knowledge coming up with a plan is, you know, like I said, makes you a winner. Okay, so what I want to talk about mainly is I don't want to get into their study so much as because that's a big elephant, you know, you got to chunk it down. And this is the one way of chunking it down. I plan on doing if if everybody likes this stuff, this information, I plan on doing several of these

11:44throughout throughout, you know, the next few months in order to get everybody ready for an area study that they can they can have the data in there and then they can put it together and come up with their plan. So if that's if that's something people want, you know, it might be a bomb. It might be, you know, everybody's like, I don't care about it. So, you know, we'll I'm going to play it by here. We are we can play a by here to see if it's something that's wanted and needed and we can go from there. So I, you know, I hope that it is a it's something I'm passionate about and I've done it. And it's I see the importance in it. I hope everybody else does too. Well, you know, and the audience knows if they don't, I did a lot of traveling and moving from one place to another, especially rather than I both, from one place to another with the job that I had because we were building we were building projects in different cities. And every single time we got to a new city,

12:45then there were several. We would like very first thing we do is we just go out and just start driving around and we take a look at the streets and how they or how they're oriented and where the where the problem areas where where the restaurants were. That was like one of the big things. Like, let's go check out where all the restaurants are. And then in that process, you're mapping that out in your brain. You're also kind of getting a feel for for the city, you know, the different routes where the traffic is and this and that. And, you know, we spend the first week just kind of doing that, you know, aside from setting up the department or whatever and all that, we would actually go out and look at, you know, and I guess that in a way is sort of an area study or, you know, an intelligence gathering mission. You know, what's cool about it is we we all have that that gut instinct. We all have that that primal brain for survival. And collecting intelligence, you were doing it and you didn't even know it. It's something we do every day. You're driving down the street. Where's the post office? Where is the police station? Where's the hospital? Where's the clinics? You know,

13:47all that stuff. Area familiarization is is a big one. Staying away from that side of town. Oh, I don't want to go to that side of town or you're driving through a new part of town and you see things you don't like middle note. I'm not going there. All right. I need to watch out when I come here, you know, right? Right. You know, extra caution in this area. So that's the kind of things that would go into your area study and and and be part of your intelligence collecting. So, you know, you're a lot of people are doing it without even knowing it. So I bet you once you you listen to this podcast and if you know, if you make it to the end, then you're you're going to not only learn a little bit, hopefully, but you're also going to realize that, hey, I do this, you know, naturally on my own. So, right. And I want to say at this point, if this sounds like a cool topic to you, grab your notebook, hit, you know, hit pause, grab your notebook, get a pen,

14:48pencil, whatever. And I get that notebook out and start taking notes because there's going to be a lot of information coming out in the next, you know, 30, 45 minutes. So, okay. Let's get into the, I guess, the definition of intelligence. Okay. So first off, I want to talk about information. So there's there's a difference between information and intelligence. Okay. So, what what is information? Well, and once a difference between information and intelligence. So first off, information is facts learned from something or someone. Okay. It's it's the things out there that, you know, you you didn't know and you figured you found out. It might be something you knew but maybe forgot about. So there are there's a lot of things that are facts. But they they mainly answer those questions. Who what where when? And we want to get to the why. And that's where the

15:56information part comes in or the the intelligence part comes in later. But so information is um it's details. It's the details about things. It's the particulars. It's data that's out there. It's statistics. It's all these things that is, you know, describe the descriptions of stuff. It's factual. There's a lot of different things. That information is so information would be kind of like the input of what intelligence is developed and I'll use that word term before. All right. Again, you'll you'll take information and develop intelligence. So is that yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying. So okay. So that would that makes sense because you could go using my example from before. You can go out into your brand new neighborhood or maybe for

16:58the first time, you're going to actually go out and do a little recon of your own. And you can go out and you can see what appears to you to be maybe a bad side of town like we just talked about. But that's that's information. Intel might be is it really a bad part of town? Is it does it fluctuate? Is it you know bad during certain times or or maybe it's just not bad. That's just what you're you're getting. Maybe that's just your personal bias is telling you that. So okay, tell us part of it is breaking it all breaking all the information up into smart bits, I guess, right? Yeah, and it's a little more and a little bit more involved in that. But I'll give you for instance here. Okay. So the next time you go to Walmart on your drive, I want you to or another store a good 20 minute drive. Let's say that 10 to 20 minute. Yeah. Take note of how many different license plates, different states license plates. You see remember the game. I don't know if growing up. Did you ever play the game on a trip where you're

18:02you're looking at. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Growing up in New Jersey, you're not just growing up, but yeah, adult. It's a fun thing to do. Yeah. Yeah. So you're on a trip. You're you're looking at license plates from other states. And so how many can I get? Well, try that going to your next trip, you know, your next trip to grocery store or whatever. So now that would be information. Wow. There's just in my other day, it hit me like a ton of bricks and in the neighbors, I currently live in. I saw just leaving and it takes me, I don't know, six minutes to leave the the neighborhood for my house. I drove the longer route this day and took me about six to eight minutes. I saw three cars from California, two from Chicago, but Illinois, there was in New Jersey and the other one was I want to say in the Mexico. Okay. So it's not that big a deal where I live because it's I'm

19:05in a huge military town. So you're going to see things. But then intelligence that I've collected on the out of town, you know, military type people, a lot of those are coming from I organs a huge one because of the Air Force base is local. You're going to get other license plates, but a lot of people on their second tour, I guess, and they get Oregon license plates and stuff. So I know that because of the data that I've saw, you know, why am I seeing all these Oregon plates? Well, I collected enough information and I started asking around and I found out that I developed intelligence on, hey, this is why there's so many Oregon plates here. People from Oregon just don't want to leave and come to Oklahoma. I mean, it organs, you know what I'm saying? It's a better place than Oklahoma. You'd have to have a reason to come here and a next duty station for the military would be one of those things. So, okay, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Okay. So basically the

20:11information is raw, it's unorganized or can be structured data, but it's kind of, you know, nothing that's, it's just out there, you're gaining it in order to develop it into intelligence. And so the next thing I'll talk about is intelligence. So intelligence is developed from information that is timely, relevant, it's accurate, it's specific, it can be actionable and predictive, and it's all developed from information or data. And so I hope that, you know, that makes sense. It's at first I didn't get it because to me, information intelligence is the same thing because the way my brain works, but when you think of intelligence is developed from information that's gathered, then it helps out a bit. Well, I'm a visual type of a learner and when you're speaking of this, what I'm seeing is bullet points and information is like the headlines,

21:16the bullet points under each one is your intelligence. Yeah. And it's not how I'm picturing it. I'm not sure if that's correct, but it's, it's a deeper version of what the, the knowledge is, the data. Yes. Yes. Okay. That, that, that car is black and that car is black. Now, under that, what type of black is it? Why did they buy black? Why, why are they, why do people like the color black? It's black, black better than white, blah, blah, blah. It just seems like it's more in depth. So you just said why several times. Okay. And so the takeaway from this little lesson here is information is who, what, where, when and the why is developed from the information. That makes sense. Okay. So I hope I broke that down enough to where that makes sense. So yeah. So any, any other questions from there? Yeah. I want to know about all the ints. We're going to get there. We're definitely going to get there. So I want to learn the ints. Everybody, I keep, I keep hearing it on TV shows and movies and you guys and I'm like, what's all these

22:18ints? I and T. Yeah. And Jeremy, he brought that term up a couple times on different podcasts and he calls him the ants. And we're going to take that. We're going to run with it because that's a cool term that he came up with. So so he didn't come up with it. Did he? You know, I don't know. I mean, he asked me, you mean, you mean calling it the ints? Yeah. And he might have. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody, but you know, I and T is just part of the acronym is, yeah. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. Okay. But that's cool. I mean, I'm going to take it, you know, and run with it. So yeah. So we've talked about the why and I don't want to beat a dead horse about the why, but the why is develops that ultimate goal. Remember, I said, I like winning. I want to survive. The why gives you the ultimate goal of survival for prep and home stutters and urban, you know, all the, when I say preppers, it encompasses everybody listening to if you're on a prepper survival spot, it's going to do. It's going to actually hit home with you. So another thing that why,

23:27another thing that we would reason another reason why we would want to go out there and collect information, develop intelligence is we don't know what we don't know. Okay. At there's things that I still don't know about my area. And I, you know, it's a constant, like I said, fluid document that I'm always improving that foxhole. I'm always making things better. My area study is evolving. So there's something out there at the military. And in the corporate world, they talk about intelligence gaps. And so what an intelligent gap is an intelligent gap is the unknown. What is unknown out there that I need to know in order to come up with a better plan for my survival. Okay. So intelligent gaps are mainly from the military standpoint. They're given to you by,

24:32you know, your commander or maybe there's a leader of a company who wants to know why his competitor is just kicking their ass out there. So he has a team of, you know, I need to know why we're getting our butts kicked and in sales this month. And so, you know, there's the people who go out there and find out the reasons why, you know, they're gaining data. They're collecting all these things are coming up with intelligence and they're going to brief back to that leader. And tell them, hey, this is why. And so then they can come up with a plan. Once they have the why, they can come up with a plan on how to fix it and move on. So, oh, I'm going to make a new term. Yeah. Int gap. Int gap. I'll see. I'll try to, I'll try to use that one throughout. It doesn't, it doesn't not flow off the time. But I mean, it's better than saying gap in. Yeah. I mean, in your intelligence intelligence. So there we go. So now we have in gaps.

25:36I see. I said, here first on the toss, buck, buck. There you go. So in the military and in the corporate world, there's what they call priority intelligence requirements. Okay, these are given to people like when I was in reconnaissance, I was given an intelligence requirement in order to go out and collect intelligence or information on certain things so that the commander could come up with a battle plan. He wanted to know certain things. He wanted to, let's say, for instance, he wanted to know how many troops are out there. What kind of equipment they have? Are they, what kind of rifles do they have? You know, NATO rifles or do they have, you know, Soviet block, you know, collision of cough type rifles? You know, are they eating good? Are they fat soldiers? Are they skinny soldiers? What type of vehicles are driving? Do they have good tread on the tires? Things of that nature. We did stuff like in reconnaissance. We did what they call route reconnaissance. So we'd get a mission to go out and go from point A on a road to point B and there were certain

26:43requirements that were out there. We had to identify what they call choke points, ambush points. Go over bridges and look underneath and see, can this bridge support tank or it will only support, you know, maybe a humvee or will only support a donkey cart. You know, these are kind of things that you need to know before the commander needs to know before they start rolling out the heavy artillery and stuff. So that was what they call a PIR, priority intelligence requirements. And it's used in the civilian world as, you know, for for different corporations and stuff. Yeah. So you're, you have a mag, let's say for instance, you have a mag and you're part of the planning cell there. You're in charge of, you know, you're the intelligence cell or you're the intelligence officer there for your mutual assistance group. So you would come up with a PIR,

27:47a primary intelligence requirement for people to go out and find things out so you would know what's going on in your, for your mag and say, for instance, we have a local mag in the neighborhood, let's say, and it's getting into the political season and it's time to start voting. So one of the requirements might be for you to go out and, you know, the officers says, hey, I need you guys to go out and find out how many Republicans we got out there, how many Democrats we got out there. So how do you gain that, you know, gain that information, gain that, you know, to develop the intelligence. So, you know, what's a way of doing that? Well, you might look at political science that are out there, you know, you see a political sign vote for, you know, Mr. Smith, well, is Mr. Smith a Democrat or Republican? Because a lot of times they don't put that

28:48on their science, they just put their name on there and make it catchy as ever. So they got that name recognition and stuff like that. Is there Trump flags flying in your area? Is there, you know, fuck Trump flags out there? Is there, you know, communist flags, you know, what's out there? Is there a lot of don't tread on the flags in your area? Because that kind of tells you the politics of people as well. So in intelligence gathering or information gathering, are you talking to people as well? Well, we'll get into that here in a minute with it as part of the ints that we'll talk about here in a second. Well, the reason why I ask is because in a real world, area of operations or combat zone, wherever you guys call it, with live fire or something, whatever, you're doing recon, but you're not engaging, right? You're going in and you're getting as much information you're getting, you're getting back without engaging. That's the primary goal, right?

29:49Yeah, and we used to have in the reconnaissance world, we had this little saying run away, run away, live to fight another day. Oh, yeah, I heard that. Sure. We're lovers, not fighters here in recon, you know, okay, good. So in the preppers of Iblis world or whatever our world, then there would have to be a way to do that too without being getting yourself known as the preppers of Iblis as somebody who's trying to collect information. Yeah. And we'll get into that here in a second of different techniques of gaining that information with the ints. I know you're itching to get to the ints. We're almost there. It's it's so having said all this about at the t-shirt. Yes, it's for the ints. There we go. Itch int. Itch int. I'm itching for the ints. So the so now that we we've identified beat the dead horse on the different things, intelligence. You have beat it to the pulp. Yes. And information. All of that is to be

30:50developed into a plan and you know, like I said before, we were winners. We won't win. So now we're almost to the ints. We're almost there. Please sir. Stop winning so much. I can't do the boys. Sorry. Yeah. I like winning. We're winning too much. I win all the time. So we're going to talk next about about the scale. Okay. There's there's what we call intelligent scale. So the intelligent scale is everything in our world down to, you know, our neighborhood. So we want to collect things and we want to pay attention to things on the world scale. The global scale, you know, you when you you watch the news at night, you know, you watch the nightly news, you know, for the larger networks to get that, you know, hopefully you'll get a snapshot from the world and, you know, the nation, maybe even do some state stuff, but you're not going to get

31:56that local thing. So the things the scale of intelligence, you know, the world scale is something you need to pay attention to, especially as a prepper survivalist because, you know, there's the war drums being, you know, beat to death now with and lately what's been in the, you know, the the news cycle is, you know, Korea's got 39 nukes or I don't know how many they've got. They've got a bunch of nukes that they've come out and said, Hey, we got this many. Do they really or is it, you know, chest beating, you know, we don't definitely, it's definitely chest beating, but I digress. But I keep here nuclear about we're going to nuke Iran. Ukraine's going to get new tactic, you know, use tactical nukes are going to get tactically nuke by Russia, you know, the NATO's going to be involved and it's just this, you know, national nuke thing. Well, that's the problem, you know, in the in the world scale, but those are the kind of things you need to pay

32:58attention to because what happens a lot of times overseas eventually comes back here. And just because I've been a collector for years, I will pay attention to Europe a lot, especially the Western world of Europe, because what happens in Europe eventually starts to trickle back to the United States. And then on the national scale, and then it starts to trickle in locally. And so on that scale, there's the national scale, you got the world scale, the national scale, regional. So, you know, national is your nation, basically, it's, you know, it's talking about politics, disasters, maybe, you know, things that are happening on the national scale, you know, the ice rates used to be the, all the people coming across the, you know, the wall, you know, they're coming in free to the nation, all the migrants or whatever you call them. So that was a national. And regional

33:58would be like, you know, the Midwest or the South or the Southeast. And when I see regional, which is the next one, you got world national and regional, the regional is, I like to think FEMA region. And there's, there's different FEMA regions. And the FEMA region, I mean, I'm in region six. So I pay attention a lot to region six, because that's going to affect me more because of the FEMA region and the laws and the responsibilities in this region than what the next region would have or the national, you know, reaction to something. So I'll pay attention to the, and basically, my FEMA region is the surrounding states. So I'm really paying attention what goes on in Texas, because it's close. And I know what happens in Texas usually filters in local home. We might as well be Texas or Southeast, more than Texas or something, you know, true. Yep. So you need to pay attention what's going on around you regionally. At least pay attempts, you know, that red river. Yeah,

35:02that red river, you know, and you know, the cool thing about it is it keeps, it keeps taking more Texas soil every year. I'll tell you one thing, I mean, off subject, but the red river, it's freaking red. I have crossed it so many times in so much rendezvous times because of Texas, she's in Texas right now. And that is some of the reddest damn clay I've ever seen. I, you know, I grew up in this red land and always wondered about it. And the other, it was two nights ago, I stayed up, couldn't sleep, and I started watching something. And it just hooked it, it ended up on my YouTube algorithm about why Oklahoma, the earth is so red. And it's all mineral deposits, you know, I mean, old, yeah, mineral deposits from old, old mountains, the oldest mountains in the United States come from Oklahoma. I dig your ass for going down a rabbit hole. Now you know, right. And I do have a family, family member that owns a ranch down on the Oklahoma side and some of the Texas side now

36:04on the red river and their boundary always changes. It's continuously going south. So, you know, maybe in the next thousand years, we'll own all all the way down to like maybe dent or something. I don't know. So I digress. So all right, after regional, we have state. So why do you want to pay attention to state? You know, what's going on in the state and gather intelligence from state is, you know, mainly politics, because the politics is what mainly affects you directly. You know, what are the first order of facts? And when you're thinking about all these scale of intelligence, you're thinking about the first order of facts, second order of facts. You're thinking of, you know, it might, the world might be a fourth or fifth order of effect, but it still affects you in some way. A world drought, you know, global warming, you know, I can throw out all these buzzwords and stuff. But things, as we go down this scale, it affects you more and more and so think about that onion being,

37:10you know, there's different layers of an onion. Think about the onion getting peeled back on each one of these. So we've talked about world national regional state, okay? Whether in your state and the politics in your state, laws, you know, those are the kind of things that really affect you. So gun laws, gun laws, you know, and regionals well because if you're a gun owner and carrier, you need to know what these rounding states are allowed to do. And I was about to get there. Thank you. But that with your concealment carry, you know, the regional areas and stuff, you know, as you travel through states, you need to know these things and that's good intelligence to gather information to gain the intelligence. So so after the state, we have the county, which is politics, whether crime in your county, you know, what is going on in my county, the policies in my county, so you know, what the state level policies and laws could be this, but a county can

38:21affect you a lot more. But for instance, in my county, the roads, I'm not even going to go there on this one for the county, but I'll do more of a city and you'll you can see more of which is next from county as a city. You'll get more of a change, you know, with the county and city, you've got politics, whether in crime that you need to really pay attention to, but your city is your local area there. And like you said, a minute ago, the AO, the area of operation, that's more of your area of operation because you do go outside of your neighborhood. Hopefully you go and maybe go to other stores in your city. You might even go to the other side of the city or another county to go shopping. So, you know, these are things you need to pay attention to. Yeah, I belong to, I belong to chat groups on Facebook for my county and my city.

39:21Yeah. And you know, like we just learned about the the the concert that's coming in town. Actually, it's coming in town as we as we speak right now. It's happening. But when this podcast comes out, it will never really happen. But it's the jugalos. It's the insane clown posses, you know, jugalos. That's their followers. It's called jugalos. Yeah. And they're they're coming into our they're doing a big festival here. And you know, people are just up in arms and you got a whole bunch of carons on me, you know, the Facebook page is gone. You know, we don't need their their crap here. And this and that and there's there's going to be pedophiles and this and that. They're just it's a festival. Yeah, but they're I mean, I was there they're tough. I followed them. And there's a lot of darkness that goes with them. And there is violence drugs. A lot of drugs. I mean, these are your wayward kids. They're out having fun, but they're fun might affect you, you know, I mean, it might

40:23affect you. And it definitely affects our area because of traveling, you know, like just trying to get one place to another, the traffic, the restaurants, everything is is packed. I mean, it is packed right now. And this is not the kind of place you would think where I live is not the kind of place you think would be packed for anything. I mean, we're in the middle of freaking nowhere. You know, and they and this is where they come each year. This is like their 20th annual whatever. Yeah. I did get a report this morning that cops said that everything went off very, very peacefully. There was a couple of arrests for drugs, but there was no violence, no fighting. There was not even not even tickets given out for stuff. So it's very peaceful. Well, the good news is a lot of their fans are my age because I know I was a big fan of them for a while in my 20s. You know what I mean? All right. So yeah, they're older and they, you know, maybe 10 o'clock is their bedtime now. So maybe not as crazy as it used to be. But, you know, one of the things that I pay attention to, my county is the AI data centers. The county, you know, GOP, their and the county Democrats are

41:34all teaming up to, you know, stop these or get a more Torium on the data center. Yeah. Our county just just passed more Torium just a couple of days ago, like two, three days ago, it came out that they passed it. And there are other words are stopping it. They want more information about what these data centers are going to be, you know, what kind of impact it's going to have for our county before they're saying they're going to allow it. So it's right now, it stopped. There's a wall that was put up and it's not going anywhere until it gets voted on. Yeah. And county is kind of one of those ones you want to keep your eye on. There's not a lot to collect there, but just keep your eye on it. City is more, you know, in your area of operation, as they call it, you know, your, your, the places you go the most and affects you the most. So there's, you know, city, there's, there's city laws, there's city ordinance, there's different things that affect you, you know, inner day-to-day lives. For instance, I decide I need to build on,

42:40build a, let's call it a little barn behind my house so I can store on my prepper shit, right? Well, the city that I used to be in, they wouldn't allow certain things. They were really tough on stuff and a lot of their laws are really old and outdated. So, you know, they just had some silly shit that they needed to update, but they still stick to it, you know, and they would just stick to it, they're in hole and right to their guns. You couldn't do certain things in that city that would better people's life. So, you know, a lot of city things, you know, then again, you have to politics, you got weather, you got crime, that will affect your everyday life. And it's, I had some, well, that's one of the reasons why we did, why we moved to this area of Missouri, the Ozarks, because they're in our, our sphere, which, which, you know, can go an hour or so in any

43:42direction and all the way down until like Arkansas, there is very little control over property owners. You can do anything you want, basically, but anything you want across the board without any information at all, with your own acreage like we do. That's one of the reasons why I went for it, because there are places in Texas that won't let you have, you know, rain catchment systems or, you know, different types of things and not like that, but some people live where they've got homeowner's associations. That is, oh, you don't want to do that at all. And like I was talking about the silly shit in cities, you can only have two hens and no roosters in this city until they passed the law, you know, the, the petition, you know, the citizens petitioned and during COVID, to get, you know, to get more chickens out there. And they had laws that say inside the city limits, you couldn't have, you can only have X amount of certain animals, you can only have so many sheep,

44:46so many goats, so many horses, so many cows. We happen to have some of the, really, the, what's left over of the city, the city limits, we have the raw land still in the city limits. We're holding onto it and it just keeps the number, keeps growing every day, the value of it. It's pretty awesome. One day I'll be sitting on a million dollars, hopefully. That's good. Yeah. But we're running livestock on it and, you know, there's, there's just some silly laws out there that, you know, we petition to get it changed, so. But, you know, then again, your county, you can do certain things, your county assessors come out and tax the sheep out of you and in the cities, got to get there, you know, with their little, you know, stick their fork in you too. But the one that most, mostly affects your everyday life, cities not always, you don't always go to the city or you might not be in the city every day, you might live in city limits,

45:47you might not. Everybody can't say everybody lives in city limits, but I have my last, you know, pretty much my whole life. So it affects me every day. Yeah. But the neighborhood is another big one. This is the final scale. It's the very bottom scale that affects your everyday life. Every minute of your life that you're not, that you're in that neighborhood, you know, you got HOAs, you got the politics, you got whether you got crime, you got. I got Karen's. Fuck yeah. Karen's. You know, there's always that one Karen that's a HOA president that, you know, has nothing else to do. She's, you know, 65 years old, retired and she, her whole life is about writing you nasty letters, you know, what they call that, sternly written worded letters, you know, so the scale is something

46:47you pay attention to when you're collecting. It was kind of a long drawn out way of going about, hey, you need to pay attention to what's going on in the world, what's going on in your nation. You regionally, what's going on? A state or province, your county or parish, your local city, your municipality, and your actual neighborhood, because those things, as we talk about the orders of effect, they're going to, you know, as you go down and peel back the hunk and it's going to affect you more and more and more every time. Yeah, Ronda and I were coming back from doing some shopping or doing a run and coming down the gravel road and there's a house that we passed by, it's a branch and they get a lot of property and he was outside, he was standing up, so we pulled over and we, you know, talked to him and he told us, you know, everything. I mean, he went on, we got so much information on this guy, all the different neighbors, all the things that are happening, all the different stuff, he's a talker and a real

47:49nice guy and great information. Why would home and actually looked him up and his like family owned all the mountains around here at one point. I mean, they've been here for, they're generational, you know, they've been here forever. So I'm pretty sure his intel was very good. Well, what an awesome segue into the ends, that, you know, the, what'd you call them in the, the ends, the, what ends? Itch ends. Itch ends. Yeah, so yeah, you're, you know, it only took 52 minutes to get there. Come on. Hey, we're here now. Best for last, right? And I'm trying to make it abbreviated. So we, if anybody's still listening, because here we go. So what you just talked about is what's called human, it's human intelligence collecting. Okay. And the key aspect for human intelligence collecting the human is you find out the why and the who. Okay. So keeping that in mind. So what you did is by doing a little interview or just asking an open-ended

48:55question to somebody, they gave you all this information. You will find out in human collection efforts. A lot of times you just got to go knock on a door to your neighbor and say hi, introduce yourself. Hey, I live next door. My name is Jim. I lived here a couple years. I just wanted to come by and introduce myself. And then they feel obligated to tell you something about them. And then you can ask them, oh, cool. I noticed that you drive a, looks like a shop truck. What do you do for a living? Oh, you're a plumber. Awesome. So, you know, if I could have a card of yours, then I could call you if I had a problem. Okay. Well, by the way, do you, do you have guns? Do you shoot? Okay. Well, great. I do too. I'm, you know, I was in the army. So now you can start developing friendships that network that we've talked about and other people's talked about, like Project 223 when he was on Joe Doleo talked about it and bears talked about, you know,

49:58developing that network of people, your neighbors. And you might have an ally or you might piss the guy off. And, you know, they have different, maybe different political, you know, ideologies or whatever. Yeah, but that in itself is also important information because then you know how to deal with that person without upsetting them or, you know, putting them off. Bingo, you know who's in your court, who's out of your court. So, and who's going to be helpful in a, shit, it's a fan situation who's not. So, um, these are, you were, you have, you've been doing a lot of collection without even knowing it. You mentioned that you, you went home and kind of researched this guy. And what did you do with it from there? Oh, I just kept it in my brain. I didn't like write it down, ran thing. But now I know his, his last name and, you know, well, you know, I went on there and looked up the different properties, zones and the plot lines and found out exactly

51:02which ones he owns. And, and doing that also found out that there is, there's a creek with his name. And then I was like, oh, wow. So, I actually looked up the name, you know, in the history of the area. And at one point they like founded the whole area. So, yeah, you, you've collected a lot. And that guy is probably what they would call a, you know, a very important person, you know, he could be put in that category of, you know, he's a very influential. Okay. So that's a guy that would be good to have on your, on your side. He can also be a great source for you. A lot of times in the police, you, they call him, sea eyes, a confidential informant. So you might want to know about a neighbor that's, you know, on the other direction. And this guy's been around for a while. Now, you got a source to maybe you'll get some, you know, new intel on this other person. Yeah. And we also exchanged, you know, phone numbers and the old, you know, come over anytime you want, open invitation kind of a thing. So, and he's actually even called me a couple of times about cattle that's gotten out. Yeah. So, just, you know, I did, I did a little, you know, I was working

52:09just a couple of weeks ago outside and I heard an unusual noise for our area, which was like a bunch of big engine trucks and things coming through. And I'm like, what the hell is going on? And I went, and you know, I heard it pretty much most of the day. I'm like, man, something we're going on out there. So I went up and grabbed my drone, took my drone up in the air, went out and checked it out. And it was actually people doing road work on, you know, on our dirt road. We're at, you go from paved roads to gravel roads and then to where we live dirt roads. And I've never seen the work on the dirt roads. Now, on the gravel roads, they work on them all the time. They kind of, they kind of rotate through throughout the year. But for the dirt roads, they only come out once a year. And that was intelligence now that I have. Now I know that they work on the dirt roads once every year. That's great information. And oh, yeah, that is awesome. Because now you, when you start putting together your area, intelligent study, you know, when they maintain the roads, yep. And then, you know,

53:12you can, you can develop your plan from there. I'm going to touch a little, a few more things on human. Basically, human is, is there's different techniques of gathering human. You can use interrogations, you can ask open-ended questions, you can be just a friendly conversation. You can debrief, you can do what they call source operations. You can be covert and infiltrate. I've actually done that with some political organizations to where I've gotten very valuable intelligence that I've passed on to the decision makers and the people who act upon this intelligence. And I'll just leave it at that to where they could, you know, do what they wanted to with that information. And they did do some things. So there you go. So I got to win for me. So, so also the strategic value of gain in human is it bridges that gap between what's observable

54:17and the reasoning behind it. So you've got the context for the why. And who is responsible for it? Hopefully, that's, you know, that would be one of your goals. So these are human is probably the second. It's probably the most reliable for the most part. And when you get down that rabbit hole of human, you got your, I call them sea eyes, a confidential informants. These people have grades. So what would you grade your guy that you got the intelligence from? Right, right. It was on scale one to 10. I would say he's probably at least a nine or a 10. And I know other people in the area that are nine and tens. And I also know the people in the area that are one and two's. Yeah. So you want to, you want to develop a system, you know, a lot of times the military uses or at least the units I was involved in, either a letter grade. They would actually, one of the units would use a one through five and a letter. And so if he was a five, you know, alpha, then

55:25gold. If he was a, you know, a three alpha, he's missed a few things or, you know, maybe, you know, he really didn't really know what he was talking about kind of thing. You know, one, you know, Bravo, he's a liar. You know, he's probably working for the team. So, you know, there's just different ways, but come up with your own system with that to where you can use that information and give you and then grade them. And you go back, if you take notes on it, go back to him and you can keep gaining information and you keep grading it to see, you know, this guy's got a great track record, you know, and just keep scoring people. All right. So we beat that dead horse. So I would say that's probably my second, human's probably the second of my favorite collections. It's probably the most reliable for the most part. But the one that everybody uses, that's the easiest to gain would be what they call osent. It's open source intelligence. So what is

56:29those? Okay. So like social media, social media, it's data that survive publicly and commercially available out there. So anything on the internet, anything on the internet is osent. But and it's legal. One of the things about osent is it's got, you know, they for the most part it's got to be legal. Now there's slander stuff out there. But you need to kind of start vetting. When you're grabbing open open source intelligence, you need to vet those sources. I'll give you, for instance, just this morning, I saw a Facebook post that came up. Maybe it was one of the other. I don't remember which one it was on. But it was a local fox plays out in California. And it was showing their their representative hall, you know, where they do all the voting and stuff like that and and all that. And they, the representatives are up there. And the camera was way back. And there was, there was somebody proposing to put in laws or something.

57:33Get this to allow a to build, I'm sorry, to build sexual relief areas for homeless people. In other words, do your thing. Go in there and do your thing. Sexual relief areas. I saw that same then I looked into it even far a little deeper. And the video made it look like it was one of the representatives of the city officials with proposing it. But it wasn't. It was actually somebody in the audience proposing it to the city officials. And they turned it down. But the video made it look like you look what's look what's going on. They're going to actually make these things. Can you can this real? What we what world are we living in here? But in actuality, it wasn't. It was the opposite. It was it was somebody from the somebody from the public proposing it to the representatives. I would not have known that if I didn't do what you said and vet it. I had to vet it because that's a big thing, man. Well, with the AI stuff out there and we're going to have episode,

58:36episode on that. Come on. Yep. Stay tuned. With the AI stuff out there and AI is getting better and better every day. Vettiness is very important. And you can take somebody's hour long speech. Somebody could take this whole hour long thing and totally snip it up to where it makes it. Oh, yeah. Look like a champ or look like a champ. You know, yeah. So it can be you can make whatever you want to out of it. So and and looks like they did that. So it's it's very important, especially when you're collecting only on osu is to vet the source and look at all sides of that topic. So if they're talking about, you know, that situation for the the Jack shack, you know, lack of better tourist. So we'll call it the San Francisco Jack shack. I don't even I thought it was California.

59:36Sexual relief zone. Yeah. I'm called the Jack. So now you you have find many sources and I'm sure you didn't just read one. You saw something. You're like, what? Wait a minute. I'm going to see what else I want to talk about this. So I said before I talk about it, I need to know what's going on. So I just the very first thing I did, I just Google AI did. Yeah, I pressed the record button and I just asked, Hey, you know, did this really happen? Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and it said, no, this is actually misinformation. If you look closely, it's somebody from the audience in the video. And I was like, Oh, so I'm back to the video and looked at it because the camera so far back, you think it's one of the representatives saying it, but it's not there's somebody way off to the side at a podium asking it. Yeah, and I saw the same thing and and come to the conclusion because I was passively listening to it. It caught my attention. I looked up and I was like, right. It's California or somewhere in the West Coast. Okay, I believe it because they do that kind of

1:00:37stupid shit. You know what I mean? Well, I'm not saying that some politician wouldn't actually agree with it and go with it. But yeah, they didn't dump this one. Yeah. And so, but that's that's a perfect example of why you need to vet your sources. And one of the sources I use and I found that I like and I use it every day now. It's one of my go-to's. It's called ground news. Okay. Ground news is an app. Okay. You can get an email to you if you're not, you know, you don't want a lot of shit on your phone. But every day I get an email and I have the app where it sends me an update every day of what's going on. Twice a day I get updates of the latest news. Can you cherry pick or set up a certain way of doing it? Yeah, you can set it up. And I've got other news. I got a whole no other presentation or show on the sources I use. And it's going to be another, you know, hour long, you know, we want to do that one because that's, you know, people that

1:01:41listen to this show, they want, they want to how to use. They want to know how to do the shit. Yeah. So if you're into that kind of thing and you want to know how to set up your own little intelligence collecting, I'm telling you why you need to do it. And some of the background stuff, next one will be how. So, but ground news is a great, there's a paid, there's a free and a paid. So take that for what is worth. But you can set it up to gather and I have my set up for world, national and state news. And I think that's all I can do on this app. I got another app that I can get local stuff that I get all day long. I get local. So, and I get breaking news flashes so on the other one. So the locals, I tried doing some of that Intel work with my, my balfing radio because I haven't one set up in my shop as well way out back. And I turned it on and just kind of let it go through scanning. But it's so I'm so far out it's not picking up anything.

1:02:42Yeah. Nobody on it. Maybe if I went, you know, more closer to a town or something, I might be able to hear. Well, we get Jake back on. He can run us through how to set this up. And it's one of those show me tell me things. So, that might be a good video. But I love to have Jake back on. And he's got some sources that they do this kind of thing. I want to start with videos, to some of these shows that we do so we can get them on the deal. So that might be a good one. We'll actually, you know, do it on a video format. Yeah, definitely. So, going back to Ocent, because we're on a, we're getting low on time here. You can tailor that knowledge like I was talking about with ground news. And the cool thing about ground news is it tells you where that source comes from. So is it left leaning? Is it right leaning? And it gives you a percentage of each. So it takes all the stories that's out there, AI wise, it's AI. And they take that one

1:03:43Jack, Jack story. And they show it if it's right leaning or left leaning with all the reporting on it. So if it's 98% right leaning, then you know it's pretty much a hit piece going on. So it, it vets, it tells you right left and center of what the sources are. You know, I saw somebody that died the other day on it. And I was like, Oh, you know, I like that person. Well, the center is, it was like, you know, over 80% center. And then there was a few left and a few right leaning sources on it. But for the most part, they do the vetting for you. So a lot of that bullshit is left out. So it's a pretty good source. Yeah, because you will definitely see differences. Who's the guy that went to, uh, uh, went into Dearborn, the, the, the, the guy. Jankling. Jokie Jankling. There, if you, if you look at the news today, you got some channels are saying agitators went in there and some channels saying Patriot went in there and did this and

1:04:47caused, you know, and, and was, you know, it caused trouble whatever, whatever it was. I, you know, and, and you know that the agitator ones are coming from the left side and the Patriot ones are coming from the right side. I am right leaning, but I think he's a fricking agitator. Yeah, he definitely is. I think that he asked for the trouble he got into going out there yesterday. He's either a patriot or an asshole, depending on what you exactly, what, what much way, you know, where you come from as far as, you know, left or right. My point is that looking at both sides is important because if I had just looked at one conservative, you know, viewpoint or news, it would have told me that this conservative patriot, so and so, and, and, and got, you know, and, uh, was treated, and, you know, unfairly and, and was arrested for this and that and shouldn't have, and, you know, uproar and all those other stuff. But I, I looked at both and like, okay, I actually kind of agree with the other side on this one. Yeah, he, he definitely is an agitator. Um, and he gets no writing and pay and he's getting back, I believe I, I can't

1:05:51prove it. Um, don't really care. Well, he, well, he got pardoned by Trump for January 6th. Yeah. And, and he's getting paid to do things, uh, in my opinion, I bet you he is. Yeah. He's got, he definitely has money backing him for sure. I don't want to spend the brain or space or the time to go find out because I just, he, it's just what he does. But yeah. Um, you know, wrapping up the point point, point being, Ocent is, you get the bedded. Yeah, you can need to vet it. You need to, and the old school way of doing it was go all listen to, you know, CNN and then I'll listen to Fox. And somewhere in between is the truth. Um, usually ground news kind of takes that out of, out of the, equations. So, um, just to recap on Ocent is open source intelligence is public legal stuff information that's out there for the most part is legal. Um, and it's out there to produce actionable intelligence. It leaves it used to be, uh, AI can get in there and screw it up, um, because AI is getting better and better and better. There's misinformation, disinformation.

1:06:55They've made it harder for you to collect Ocent stuff. But, you know, 10 years ago, you could collect some pretty good sources from Ocent. Um, so what other type of itch ins can, can go along with intelligence guys or study. Okay. So we've talked about human and then we've talked about Ocent and we're going to get into, uh, there's a lot of different ones. Um, but here's another one that you could use as a prepper. Um, okay. Yep. Is a second. It signals intelligence. So what is signals intelligence? Well, it is like you was just talking about you take that balfing out in your shop and you go out there and you put it on scan. Oh, okay. A second. I did my own second. You were doing second. You know, it can be a sexy as you run a, uh, a yogi antenna and point it in direction. And maybe you make it, uh, to where it rotates to where you can pick up which a yogi antenna is going to help your signal on your little balfing radio. Now you're going to be able

1:07:58to go further and if you raise it up higher, you're going to go even further and further. Right, right. And if you can rotate that thing, you're going to know you're going to pick up more and more and then you figure out what direction that signal's coming from. Um, okay. So like I said, Jake, from State Foreigner came on, uh, the show and talked about, you know, difference in the radios and stuff. He's good at this. He's got some stuff. He's got, uh, I'm not going to throw him under the bus here, but he's got some good intelligence. I actually met him at a second course. Um, cool. That's how we met. And so there's a few people we've gotten together and we've, uh, we've practiced this, um, techniques and stuff and you can go out and do what's called a fox hunt which you can go out and you have, uh, the fox hunters and then you got the fox. So the fox is going out putting out signals and then the fox hunters go out and it might be in an open field. It might be a triangulate and you try to find where that person is by triangulating by doing all the things.

1:09:03I don't want to get too far in the weeds because that's a whole other episode. Man, believe me. But signals and intelligence is basically collecting communications, um, hopefully legally. You know, you're, you're intercepting messages, voice or data transmission between people. So, for instance, on your home stat, you know, you, you have your radio set up and you got it in your shop and you're out there, you know, doing whatever you're doing in your shop and all of a sudden, you start getting, uh, signals, you start hearing people chat. You know, it's automatically going to get your ears to perk up, right? It's going to send a fly because you don't hear shit normally, right? So yeah, no, not at all. So you're, you're going to be able to, you know, that's going to send a signal to you. So where I live, I live between two schools, uh, mid-high and an elementary school. And I can turn on my balfang. Uh, they're not in school right now, but I can turn on a mid in a middle of the day and I'm listening to chatter on scan. I'm listening to chatter and I now know

1:10:09what channels they operate on. You know, the principals are on one. Uh, the, oh, because they're using radios too. Yeah, they use an FRS channels. Uh, some schools will actually go out and get business man. So they have their own, you know, and it's a little more secure. But I can sit there and listen to these people that, you know, the lunchtime, uh, uh, playground monitor has a different channel than what the, uh, the principals are and the maintenance people on another channel. So I can tell you what these channels are at each of the two schools. There's a, uh, a golf course pretty close and they run, you know, the maintenance guys, they run, uh, channels too. So I can tell you what that. And so, you know, let's say you don't have any of that in your area. Man, it's a type of voyeurism almost to be thinking about it. You know what? It's legal. So go out and get your, go out. You can either use an FRS, which is total, it's family radio service, which is free. It's

1:11:12a little mobile pack radio as you buy for, you know, you used to buy it for like $25 and get like five of them right at Sam's. But now they're a little more expensive, but you get your mobile pack. And if it has a scan feature on you, put a scan on it and you go and you just listen, go, go out and set in Walmart parking lot. Go out and set in a lot of the fast food restaurants use radios, talk to each other, you know, the guy in the back taken, you know, cooking meats compared to, you know, the person at the counter, they're talking each other radios now. They're not using the overhead voice thing. So you can, you can gather a lot of information by just trial stuff. And that's all signet collection home depot, the big box stores. They do it too. So, you know, as a, you know, get your, spend $35, get your GM, GMRS, you know, mobile radio service license, $35, you go out and get it, I got it, got it too. And get you a handle or whatever. And then you can go out and do more things.

1:12:14And it's, it's a way of gathering information that you're normally going to be blacked out on. So you're going to hear people a lot of times will just talk in the clear, you know, like they're talking on a cell phone on these things and you're going to get a lot of information. So that's your signal intelligence. And there's a lot more things. We have to go into all the other ones though. Yeah. There's a lot more stuff that the military can do and stuff. GO into one, say again, do you see that? Yeah, GON, MASSANT, GON is basically imagery, your satellite imagery, your map systems. Okay, maps. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, you know, it's great to go out and get, you know, different satellite images of your area, area views, to aerial views, especially around your area. You know, you've never been on your neighbor's, you know, property. You can see if they have a pond. You can

1:13:16see if they have a pool that might be good for, you know, future ops or shit. It's a fan and you need some water and they got a swim pool. Damn, that's a water source or a pond or a creek. Maybe they got a canyon that goes through and goes right up to their back door, you know, you might get hungry one day and have to use that canyon to, you know, sneak up on them or whatever. Just deal the corn. Still the corn. Or, you know, maybe you got to go over there and help them out in the situation and that's a good egress and dig, you know, assertion and digress route or whatever. So, so there you go with the GO int and then MASSANT is the next one. It's a measurement and signature intelligence. Basically, you're going out there and by a lot of times the military and our national offense uses this with satellite imagery and they might catch the North Koreans, for instance, with a new rocket launcher. And so they'll take a picture of that and they'll start

1:14:20measuring the little things on it, the big things on it to see what the hell this thing is, what its capabilities are. They got, you know, ways of, you know, taking pictures and, you know, looking at colors and looking at radiation and heat and other things like that. And so they can take a picture by doing the things with the MASSANT thing. They can decide what the capabilities are of that equipment. So, how's that going to help you in the prepper sphere? Unless you got some really cool shit, not so much. But, well, if you're trying to measure distances, let's say road distances or egress distances, creek, like lengths of creeks or depths of ponds, a lot of times like my neighbor's pond, they got a giant pond down there and it's way down there, but it's basically my next door neighbor. And it's actually two neighbors. They share the same pond. It's so big. And you take your drone out there and look at it, you can't, I mean, it's dark in the middle.

1:15:22So you know it's deep, you know, so I'm getting, you know, that, I don't have to go get a measurement for it. I know it's a deep pond. It's been there forever. If you look back through the history on Google Earth, it's been there for a long time. So I know it holds water. So there's a water source. Why is that important to me? I have bees and they need a water source. And they traveled to five miles. Now this, this is only, I would say a mile and a half away from me, this pond. So I know my bees are getting water. Yeah. And we use a little bit of this with Haleen. We were flying drones and we had drones with certain capabilities. And so we could take measurements on things and we brought them back to show tech stuff right there. Yeah. To show cracks, stress fractures on bridges, you know, different things. Well, I really like using Google Earth because Google Earth has a measurement thing and I use it all the time. Yeah. I use Google Earth for own. And oh my next, if we do the next episode, I'll definitely tell you the things I use in the measurement scale.

1:16:29Because there's, there's so many tools out there. I mean, I got my favorites. Other people have their favorites. And yeah, I'm kind of simple. And I keep things simple. So we'll close it up. Well, it's up the episode. So basically, if you want to win, then go for the win, collect intelligence. It's as easy as starting a conversation with somebody. This is as easy as getting on your, your computer and doing a little bit of research. Look at both sides. Okay, let's do this way. For the listener, give me three principal, you know, things to do. Like three things that are important to do or habits that you can take away from the conversation we had today. So get into what I call a battle rhythm, get into a daily collection, just routine basically. Don't go out and dig for all of it because it takes all day. You got shit to do in your life, right?

1:17:31Let it come to you while I'm drinking coffee, I'm going through ground news. I'm listening to podcasts at passively and actively all day long. That's telling me new sources. I'm getting news. I'm listening to both sides. And sometimes listening to BBC, I just start throwing shit and cuss them. And you know, hitting walls with shit because it's so biased. And then I listen to Fox News and everything's better, right? Because that's the way we are getting. But get into a routine of where you're getting all this information brought to you. Don't be scared to talk to people and get information and, you know, go out and meet people and know what's going on in your area. And be a winner. My Prepper Brothers and Sisters, if you have an idea for a show topic or would like to be on the show as our guests email shtf at topspunker.com website topspunker.com YouTube topspunker podcast channel and speak pipe speak pipe calm slash tops. Thank you so

1:18:34much for joining us tonight and remember stay prepped stay happy thanks for listening and good night.