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4:14I'm going to take a look at it. four. In 2021 Dr. pajamas... Welcome to another edition of the week in Moscow and beyond. I'm Mike Echel, senior correspondent here in Prague,

5:17filling in for our regular host, Steve Gutterman. 1993 February, St. Petersburg. Russian authorities announced the seizure of over a metric ton, more than $100 million of cocaine. The cocaine was stashed in cans of corn to beef that was shipped from Colombia and smuggled into Russia by road via Finland. The man whose agents seized the drugs was Victor Cherkissoff, known during Soviet times as a merciless KGB investigator. He was also a confidant of another KGB alumnus, who at the time was St. Petersburg's deputy mayor and the man overseeing the city's foreign affairs. That's Vladimir Putin. Cherkissoff, who headed the Russian drug agency, promised high profile criminal trials into the Coke bust. Nothing ever happened. Cherkissoff's office halted the investigation seven months later, saying merely that the main suspects had fled the country.

6:22The cocaine itself disappeared from view. A new investigation by RFERL has uncovered multiple links between individuals implicated in the drug smuggling and the St. Petersburg mayor's office where Putin worked. The findings echo past allegations that Putin himself was involved in the drug smuggling. It's all a very interesting asterisk in the political trajectory of Putin. And joining now to discuss the RFERL investigation are two of its authors. That will be Andrei Sochnikov, an investigative correspondent with current time and Karl Schreck, RFERL's enterprise editor. Great, so thanks for joining me guys. And again the new investigation which you can find in Russian and in English on our websites

7:24is in fact the first in a series of upcoming articles looking into the backstory of Putin's rise to power. If you want to understand what Putin is is and you want to understand why what Russia is today, why Russia is what it is today. The oligarchs, the silova key, capital flight, offshore banks, sanctions, all of it, you have to first take a look at St. Petersburg, Putin's hometown and where he first made the transition into politics. Andrei, tell us what is the main takeaway of this first chapter of the investigation. Thank you, I'll say it again. It was February 1993, quite a depressing time for Russia to say at least. A tone of cocaine had been intercepted at the Russofinish border cargo from Colombia that was delivered by the ship. And fast, the Finnish customs are noticed as quote and quote, cans of Colombians too. And according to the head of the local

8:28KGB branch who was Putin's one of the closest ally, Vickpercher Kiesov, Russian customs officers noticed that some cans did not have markings and upon opening them they found the cocaine inside. And the route had been tracked by authorities in multiple countries including Israel and Israel is the only country that convicted some of the people who were behind this operation. They were citizens of Israel and we interviewed two people directly linked to this Israel investigation. This was the first interview of the actual person who was convicted for his role in this operation. And the first interview of a witness of this operation that was questioned by Israel investigators, we also found some Israel investigative records, Russian police documents that were never

9:34observed before. And also you can check in our story on our landing page a very unique video and newspaper archives that were never published before. So that Israeli convict says that the paperwork he carried for the cocaine consignment listed a recipient as their St. Petersburg government's public health watchdog which was under control of the mayor's office. And Putin knew that cocaine will be delivered to St. Petersburg and he knew that there was a big scale operation by Interpol to deliver it to Europe and to catch criminals in Europe but something happened and Russian police decided to act and captured the cargo itself. Our witness told us that the Israeli

10:36businessmen who were one of the main guys in this operation had met with first of all Putin's boss Anatoliy Sapchak and another criminal had met with some mysterious person who was intermediate between Sapchak and criminals and worked for the mayor's office and he used pseudonym and we didn't find this person but anyway it was noticing. And the only person who was arrested by the Russian police in Russia with connection to this case and spent half a year in prison but wasn't convicted is nowadays a famous football agent who worked with several football or you can say soccer

11:36starts he's not a criminal anymore but nobody knew these details about his past. So these are our main like points our main takeaway of this investigation. Wow that's pretty incredible. I encourage everyone if you haven't already to check out the investigations published in English and in Russian on our websites and a correction I guess in my introduction I said to your Kosovo is the head of the Russian drug control agency at the time he later began the head of the Russian drug control agency but he was still all along a confidant of the deputy mayor of St. Petersburg Vladimir Putin. So Carl let's step back and look at the larger significance for a moment of Putin's time in St. Petersburg. Can we draw a direct line from his time as deputy mayor in Petersburg where this case was one of several scandals to Russia's political situation today?

12:42Thanks Mike. Well I would say one thing you really have to look at and Andre is a native of St. Petersburg so he probably knows this better than I but I think of the complete dominance of organized crime particularly in St. Petersburg at the time when Putin launched his what basically entered into politics you know in the mayor's office. I think that was really a formative for how he understood you know the relationship between between the state and the electorate and I think it really we see echoes of of of that in the way Russia's run under under Putin now and you know I'm thinking specifically of you know cronism patronage the use of law enforcement authorities for the enrichment of of insiders and if we just look at the people have become incredibly

13:50wealthy I mean just the number of Putin friends and insiders who become enormously wealthy doing large part to connections to the to the state cash cow is really remarkable and so I think why it was a much smaller scale in St. Petersburg you see a lot of the same motifs in Russia today and under under Putin's reign in this particular case in the cocaine case what's quite interesting as well is I think this still this idea that the state doesn't owe any sort of accountability to the to the electorate I mean when Putin's confidant Victor Chikosov when his team sees this metric ton of cocaine you know in the beginning there were big there was a big press conference and promises that be a trial they said they would use the cocaine for medical purposes it would

14:51be a repurposed for medical use and there were regular reports in the police in the in the papers about the course of the investigation and then after that after these promises that this this metric ton of cocaine would be a repurposed for medical use it just completely dropped off the radar and this was you know for me probably the biggest red flag in the whole story there was never any you know we could never find a single press release or press conference saying hey look we've used all this cocaine to repurpose it for medical use and make all this money for the state I mean technically that can that metric ton of cocaine was in the in the hands of the other Russian taxpayer and what happened to it we have absolutely no idea yeah so one chapter of Putin's time in St. Petersburg that has been under scrutiny examined closely in the past and keeps coming up as a recurrent theme is the question of food supplies because back after the Soviet collapse

15:55St. Petersburg faced food shortages and city hall made various arrangements to try and fill the gap and you know keep its residents from starving and those arrangements included barter deals where these fly by night firms these fly by night companies pocketed millions of dollars despite the fact that no food shipments were in fact delivered in exchange Andre as Carl said you're a native of St. Petersburg talk to us a little bit about the whole food barter arrangement that was also noteworthy during Putin's time in St. Petersburg politics I agree first of all I agree with Carl the main term that you can associate with Putin's regime is impunity he learned how to do business and how to govern in 1990s and he was never seriously questioned for

16:56convicted for any of the dark stories that he was involved with and one of the stories was investigated by a Russian politician Marina Saria in 1992 I remember this time that you could get food or basic products but you had to pay for them with international currencies if you needed a cheap food you had to stay in lines for a very long time and there was a danger of like a serious problems for the city because of the food shortages so the mayor's office decided to exchange some earth metals oil products and other raw materials for over $100 million and used a barter contracts in return the city had to receive some food

18:06but the foodstuffs never materialized and Marina Saria who was the member of the local parliament investigated these activities and had access to some documents that had even Putin's signature on them and it's very easy to check that the city was promised to receive food from some companies and never received any of these very important products that people really needed at that time and Putin was the person to pick these companies there was no like a public procurement system with competition and due diligence he just picked some suspicious companies some of them belonged to the friends of the mayor some of them were belonged to the people

19:11closed criminal some of them were belonged to we don't know who and the city lost this very important oil products and earth materials that could be exported for a price of $100 million never received any food it happened it happened 30 years ago and still we can see the same every time with any corruption scandal Putin or his associates were involved in the same impunity repeats itself all the time I'll mention that there's a really great video that we published as part of this investigation you can find it on our website that involves some really fascinating archival footage of the cocaine bust and really there's a lot to illuminate this this this story and as I mentioned earlier this this first chapter it's this first investigation

20:12is is part of an upcoming series of RFERL stories regarding corruption scandals and scams that swirled around Putin and his associates as he began his political ascent call talk to us what's coming down the road next yeah we've got some really interesting stories coming down the pipeline here they will they're mostly connected to Putin's external relations committee very influential committee that Putin headed at the mayor's office you know these are corruption stories that are very illustrative illustrative illustrative of how how business was done with his committee during that time and so I would for anyone interested in the stories please keep an on our website throughout the week and and our Twitter feed our social media feeds because we've

21:15uncovered details and stories that have seemingly long long since been forgotten or never got the scrutiny they deserve the in the first place and again as you know both Andre and Karl have have referred to you can easily draw a direct line from the early days of Putin's political career in St. Petersburg to the the the state of leadership and the management style that we have seen we've never seen today and and today's Russia and I think there's a lot to be learned in and looking at those historical parallels so I look forward to the next chapter of our investigation so we have a little bit of time remaining so let's take a few questions from our listeners again you can raise your hand in the by hitting the button in Twitter spaces you can also send us a direct message or you can post a question as a reply to the tweet pin in this Twitter space

22:21we'll try to get through as many questions as we can let's see what we get for a question if any and there may not be any again if you do have a question you can raise your hand by hitting the button in the Twitter spaces you can also send us a direct message or simply post your question as a reply to the tweet pinned in this Twitter space while we're waiting for a question to come in I'll throw a question at Carl where's Cherkisov now he's not somebody you hear about a lot these days do we

23:23know what happened to him yeah so he has kind of fallen off the fall on off the map a bit in in recent years so as we said he he's serving the KGB together with Putin was the top FSP official on St. Petersburg for a long time then when Putin moved to the Kremlin he Cherkisov got increasingly appointed to increasingly more powerful posts including as Russia's top counter knockoff knockoff ex-official in 2003 there's an interesting backstory because in I think it was 2007 or 2008 there were some really there were some really nasty infighting between security agencies and Cherkisov ended up publishing a letter saying that the security services must not fall victim to this infighting and it was seen as a it was a really rare example

24:26of security services insider going public with airing basically their dirty laundry publicly he went on to serve in the Duma in the in the Russian parliament for a few years but he since 2016 he's been out of parliament and there's yeah I don't really have any credible information as to where he is right now exactly what he's doing interesting uh we have one one person who has a question their hand raised go ahead please all right uh Clinton to go here contributor with the auto hill times as well as city news radio network in Canada and Troy media uh so based off of the history of Vladimir Putin sort of leaving government military agencies or security agencies and then becoming um you know the uh I don't want to say elected but like it's becoming a part of

25:33the so-called representative government uh do we have any sort of idea who who may be a likely successor uh to Putin based off of some of your understanding of these people that he worked with you know at the city level as he eventually uh became the person that we all know and recognize today and uh if we don't have any sort of idea is that a failure on our part um in the West uh when it comes to our intelligence gathering because it seems like the more I hear about what's been happening over the last three or four months that there's this fear that uh a vacuum will be created uh if and when uh Putin is removed from office I'm just curious your thoughts on that. Hmm I'm gonna you want to handle that one a question of a successor to Putin and if

26:33when he he he relinquishes power. Well the successor of the Putin is the question of not the near future I guess I'm not a political scientist but I don't see any evidence that uh he is willing to give uh any power and uh he can uh leave the presidential office or Kremlin but he can still be a very influential person like it happened in Kazakhstan and speaking about the decision former Russian president Yeltsin's decision uh to put uh Putin on the power knowing that uh he had uh some dirty business in his past. Well uh I saw how westerners were very happy with this decision since he's not a communist and he's not he was not a communist he was not a nationalist and he never expressed any of his of these views and that was enough for the West

27:36at the time and uh we've seen different Putin's uh over these 20 years and the first few years of Putin in power he used to be a reformer and he relied on some people with liberal and democratic views on how to build an economy but unfortunately it was a trap because uh while they were building a strong economy uh in Russia a very technocratic state I would say that many services that were built are very useful and people admire it but uh all of this all these budget systems and uh easy taxes and uh all this infrastructure was used for PR of uh uh uh a liberal views of Russia uh inside the country and outside the countries and for the wars uh the war in Chechnya second

28:42Chechen war the war in Georgia when uh Russia annexed the south of city and the war in Ukraine which we face right now and we really need to tell about it because it's our atrocities happens there so now we can definitely see it was a mistake and that uh the fact that Putin never expressed any of his views that uh he views that uh he expresses now was not enough to be so glad that he had some big someone uh insane as it's it was um understand it back then it's a good reminder how uh Putin was viewed at the very early days of his of his of his presidency he wasn't even braced as this uh you know stabilizing figure and uh holy welcome in the west and that was 2020 22 years ago um the next pro-Russian presidential election is 2024

29:47all bets are off if there's going to be a presidential election and uh yeah who's going to be the successor there's no real clear indication at the stage and again um there is another question that's popped up from uh a listener named Wendy I believe Wendy yes hi go ahead oh no i'm oh yeah um well i just you know that i always went to work in the state department and when uh Trump took over and he just completely gutted state department it was like a heart like a knife in my heart and um and then he started making some moves on radio free europe and that was another thing i thought he was doing for Putin and i just uh and so he hasn't been able to reverse the post office problem yet and i'm just wondering if Biden's been able to um kind of reverse whatever damage happened to radio free europe uh that is a uh question

30:51i'm gonna have to podcast this podcast is about Russia and Putin and uh this new investigation that we've published here uh that's not to say uh you know there's there's plenty to be said it's all positive i would say but uh i'm gonna put that question to the side since uh and keep the discussion more on topic um i see another hand though i can't tell who the listener is one second it's our uh listener clinton who i believe asked a question previously uh go ahead clinton yeah hi thanks a lot uh clinton devote here again uh so follow up questions on my previous one uh is there any sort of uh understanding uh at the municipal level in russia um not necessarily someone who is uh spoken out against Putin

31:52but is there anyone at the municipal level that appears to uh have consolidated support from uh you know people within their respective cities or towns within russia that could then use that as a way as leverage if you will uh to sort of follow the path that Putin did um you know 25 like 30 30 years ago that sort of thing that's a good question i have a couple of the thoughts that come to mind but i'm gonna kick it to carl and andre see which one of you uh might have a thought about regional leaders who perhaps have a regional base an electoral base that could potentially be used to build a larger political movement carl andre which one of you wants to handle that i can i can go first um i would say that um you know from the beginning of Putin's

32:55reign um they've been uh he's been extremely wary of um of regional leaders uh with so let's say too much uh sway and power in their own regions um and uh you know without one of his first task was to basically reign in um the regions that were kind of off doing their own thing um and you know you've seen appointments of governors in recent years where um people who are from the region at all are appointed to to you know lead lead various regions with which they don't really have much connection at all um so uh basically the short answers i don't see anyone um with a type of profile that you could easily say yes this person is prepared to step right in and part of that is is uh i would say Putin's own doing um and which is extremely problematic is he is

33:55created a system that essentially only he is um capable of managing um and at some point his rule will end um and what happens after that um is a big a big question i would say the the one exception with this is chishnell um where ramsan caderaf is basically a bent hand of the region and told to in that he can run it however he wishes uh even if it's not in compliance with uh with russian federal laws uh but this is just part of a bargain uh to essentially keep chishnell quiet um and in exchange for you know caderaf's uh basic autonomy there of course thank you for thank you for answering my question i appreciate that of course there are several examples of actual bodyguards uh officers with a federal protective service who have been appointed governors by the cramlin and then there's the case of uh the khabataf's governor acerke fortogau who had his

34:57wings clipped in a dramatic fashion um a couple years back by the cramlin um any other questions we can take in the remaining time that we have it doesn't look like it so with that i'm going to call it a day and say thank you both to Andrei and Carl for joining us both and again i remind people please go check out the investigation in russian and english on our websites um and be on the lookout for the next uh installment of our uh of our investigation into the political corruption scandals and scams that um uh that characterized Putin's early years in st. Petersburg again this conversation will also be published uh republished as a podcast you can find it on our website you can also subscribe to the week ahead in russia and find many of

36:00rff rls other podcasts on apple podcasts spotify google podcasts and other similar places i'm mike eckel thanks for listening

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54:17What I know together with them. How many countries is the country going down to the Netherlands? Four. How many countries are there? Four. Four. Yes. Thank you. We have more countries. Which countries are there? Netherlands. A-ro-ko. We are here so sit-mute. Well, which countries are there in Ireland? Netherlands. Netherlands. Kura Sao is very good. Very good. And they are waiting. Thank you. That was all of you. Netherlands has a Kura Sao and they are waiting. We have met. I can't go to the Netherlands. Netherlands. Berneren. Stations and the Stations and... Sao. We have a lot of countries. They are in Ireland. That is a Pacific. And they are very comfortable. And you know, we are in the Netherlands. And we are in the Netherlands.

55:17That is so. But now in the Netherlands. We have met and met and met. And the right-hand side is not in the Netherlands. Stations and the Stations are in the Netherlands. We are not very good. They are not very good. They are not very good. They are not very good. That's Kami And that is even their own here. And that is even their own here. Stations are in the Netherlands. They are very well in the Arts Festival. And they are just going to go there. I was just rushing from Hanna Hussle in our kingdom. We have a lot of islands that... do not get attention here. They deserve it this fight. So thank you for all connected in this fight. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you. Now! Now! Thank you, now.

56:17Thank you. Thank you. Woo! Okay, Vincent. We're standing here, too. It's a really great place. This is it. We're standing here with all the great places for yourself. We're so glad that you're here. Woo!

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