09-04-26 Part 3

0:00who currently lives in Hawaii and his president and founder of Hero Incorporated and movie to movement. He is a film producer, author, activist and human rights worker. His mission is to promote the incomparable dignity and beauty of the human person. We all believe in that here on this network, especially through the power of film. His company serves a mission by producing and promoting films that contribute to cultivating a culture of life, love and beauty. Jones was an executive producer on the 2006 film Bella, which won several film industry awards, most notably the People's Choice Award at the 2006 Toronto International Film Festival. Jason just got back from two weeks in three Christian villages on Lebanon's border with Israel, the only outside team getting in. And he's here to tell us what he saw and so much more will cover the red green alliance and we'll get into all of that. But there's something I was saying to you before we went live. And this is what I often say because I see the Palestinian cause and the American cause really just like everyone getting genocide ethnically cleansed in the middle east, they've had everything taken from them, but their dignity. We've had everything remain with us, but our dignity. And ultimately what they do over there,

1:04they'll ultimately bring over here and you got to be against all of it. And I love how passionate you are brother, uh, die Bell on Ebull and then remesh these are men and I are Maranite Catholic villages on that land for close to 2000 years. Can you break this down for us? What'd you see? Yeah, well, Rex, first of all, I'm glad I'm on with you because you've been such a heroic voice for the Palestinians. I'm Jen X, but to you, Jen Zeeers were all boomers. And I think there's a truth to that because for the longest time, I kind of was deeply indoctrinated and held a really embarrassing clownish prejudice towards the Palestinians. And it took even when I thought I was this great humanitarian, broad-minded person, it took me going to Egypt to evacuate wounded women and children from Gaza in the early days of the war to come to really discover how deeply I have been indoctrinated and how my view of the Palestinian people was really artunition and embarrassing. And as you and I were talking before we went on camera, Palestinians are really the

2:08most beautiful community Earth. They're the most lied about people on Earth. I think for a lot of conservatives, my age and older, that's jarring. It would have been jarring to me 10 years ago. And I've meditated on what is it about the Palestinians that makes them long-suffering dignified people. And as Christians, we believe the grace works upon our nature. And this has been a community that has been Christian. They're the really descend from the first Jews that accepted Jesus Christ and those that lived there at the time. They descend from the families that were in the upper room. Which means the grace of God has been working on their community since the since the birth of our faith, since the birth of Christianity. I think that really explains it. And you have been such an outspoken voice for the Palestinians. I want to give you a gift. There's this community called Tyva. And then I want to get to Lebanon. Sure, sure. It's this beautiful Christian village that's been in the news a lot lately. They're under relentless attack. 1200 Christians under relentless attack by the IDF. We did a documentary on this for

3:10Candace Owens. And we were there to document settler violence. But what we were there to document settler violence, the IDF attacked the village and attacked my team with drones. A stun grenade was thrown armored vehicles helicopters. And they think they're going to delete this little village of 1200 souls. They don't think anyone knows the name. We're going to make this name famous. And so I've got you an eye heart. Tyva shirt. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it, man. And they want to eliminate these Christian villages. They want to say that's not part of their culture. When in fact, that's the oldest Christian community that's around that exists. So proud to have this from Jason Jones. Thank you so much. And we're going to talk about this and so much more. What is happening in Tyva right now? Right now. Relentless settler attacks. Actually, the gates are being closed. Rumor has it now that they opened up one of the gates last night. I don't know how many gates are open. How many gates are closed, but it's relentless attacks. And in fact, anyone can get that shirt at savewestbankchristians.com. Yeah, you can get that shirt. I want everyone to know this name.

4:11But it's their constant game playing. In fact, even in bass that are Huckabee, who was a friend of mine probably doesn't like me much anymore. He rolled his eyes when he saw me in Bethlehem at Mass over Christmas this year. Because you want to save the lives innocent people. Innocent people. Christians, Jews, Yazidis, Muslims. Yeah, we defend vulnerable. But I think if we don't start with our own, then you're a sham. If you go around, certainly everyone but your own, you're a sham. Sure. And but he's even had to come out in the past two weeks and call them terrorists. His call them is Rayleigh Terrace. So Israeli Zionist terrorists are attacking the Christians in Tyva every single day. These people live in constant fear. In fact, even those who come to be a protective presence to stand between the Christians in Tyva and the violent settlers, they're often attacked. It's only when you have that blue American passport that you have some protection. But of course, many, many Americans have been killed in the West Bank. And if you're an American citizen, but you happen to also be ethnically Palestinian, your blue passport doesn't do you much

5:15good. And as we're seeing right now, the residents, the American citizens that live in the West Bank and have property in the West Bank are having their homes attacked. And it's really undignified. You see, we've lost our dignity. I stand with the people of the Christians in the Holy Land, whether it be in Lebanon, which is the Holy Land, Syria, Iraq, Palestine. These are first century Christian communities. And in the past 25 years, we've watched the Christian communities that have been in Iraq since the first century eviscerated. The Christian communities have been in Syria since the first century slaughtered. Even in India, those first century St. Thomas Christian communities are attacked by Hindu, Hindu, Hindu, Vah fundamentalists. And but there are no Christian communities that are more at threat than, as you said, in Lebanon, remesh, enable, table, that's the Horde and Bethlehem and Tybe and in the West Bank. And so at the vulnerable people project, we are committed to making sure that we preserve these ancient Christian

6:20communities. How embarrassing would it be for those of us I voted for President Trump? Me too. How embarrassing would it be to have to say next year that we watch the oldest Christian communities in earth, the Christian community and Bethlehem, the Christian community and Bezzahor, the Shepherds field, that's what that is, the Christian community and Tybe, erased and unable, remesh, enabled. These Christian villages and my son and I and my team went there. We were the first outsiders, non-residents to spend the night since the war started. We stayed there for over a week and our buildings would be rocked 40 plus times a night by artillery strikes, drone strikes, bombs dropped from planes. Even when we were racing through to get from the south back to Beirut, my son had to see the human cost of war alongside of the roads as we drove through. And he's 18 years old and he had to witness that for the first time. But these Christians are living under immense fear. What we do with the vulnerable people project is and I sent you

7:24producers some of the video footage is we want to bring life to these people. So we threw a Christian festival in Tybe in the in the late May. We just threw a Christian festival in southern Lebanon where we had over 2,500 people come and it was a beautiful celebration. As you could hear bombs falling in the distance, we also threw a children's festival with a kids played soccer, they played games with the UN peacekeepers and my team. But again, you could hear in the distance artillery landing and what they were actually doing is they weren't fighting Hezbollah. They were demolishing the Christian cities that were abandoned. And everyone's seen the videos of it. It's undeniable. Thousand-year-old churches destroyed holy sites places where Jesus literally walked. They consider that to be a playground for their weapons. Talk about the scale. We talked about grenades, talked about bombing, talked about stun grenades as well. What did you see there that just creates this environment where of course you're documenting you're being an activist being a journalist trying to help people heal by giving them means to feel like they have a community again. What is it like for people that have to live their entire life under that level of threat?

8:26You know, and there's and there's levels to what it's like. So for example, you go there, we met a family then they showed us this is where our cousin and his wife and children lived. And on the first day of the attack, Israel bombed their house and was a Christian home. I said, well, what was the reason for bombing their house? They said probably just because it was on a hilltop. So they targeted civilians simply because this Christian family owned a home on a hilltop. They targeted civilians. Then you go through and you meet families. Of course nobody's working. They can't go anywhere. They're surrounded by soldiers. All of the roads in and out of the south have been destroyed by tanks. So when the winter rains come in the coming weeks and months, it'll be impossible for food and aid to get in there because the roads become impossible. So then you meet all of the regular citizens struggling. But then within those communities, then you meet the families from the other villages that are living in abandoned schools or abandoned hospitals because they have nowhere to go or nowhere to live and no income.

9:28And it's the same thing we see this in Gaza. You meet a family. A family, a husband and his children are living in rubble and you go, can that be worse? And then you meet a seven-year-old child who's living in rubble. And he's an orphan and you go, can it be worse? And then you meet the four-year-old child that is an orphan. It has no living relative and he doesn't have legs. And can it be worse? And it gets worse and it gets darker. And they want to tell us, they want to tell us as Americans that it's somehow moral to support giving weapons to kill little kids to mutilate them. And it's just so monstrous, man. I think about the money that I pay into the system as a business person. I think about the money that we all pay into from day one every single time you buy a bag of chips of the gas station or whatever that all goes to this industrialized process of murder. And for me, you talked about how kind of like a pseudo-bumerie changed your mind because you found the information, found the facts. For me, I was just ignorant. I didn't know about Palestine. I didn't know about Lebanon. I didn't know about the West Bank. But once you start following these things, once you start learning about them, I don't understand how you can't be against it, right?

10:31The tube is never going back in the toothpaste. You know, in those of us who are committed to protecting the vulnerable, to recognizing every American is a fellow citizen that deserves equal respect regardless of their religion, Christian, Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, we want everyone to be treated with respect. We don't believe in collective punishment. We don't believe in collective punishment. We've been collective punishment. But those of us who are vigilant now are going to be have to be vigilant later because the devil is a judo master. And what is striking to me is how the boomers, many of them, I mean, many of them are waking up like me and others. But many of us are still so deluded and I don't understand how, you know, and I look at Christian Zionism and I came into the faith as an adult and I be, I came in through a dispensationalist church. But even then, I kind of found it unsettling. But now I look to Christian Zionism is not a heresy. Christian Zionism is not a heresy. It is an apostasy. It is an abandonment of the Christian faith. And it is the devil's greatest trick. I got ecclesiastes 4.1 tattooed on my arm when I

11:36was in Bethlehem. And it's King Solomon said, I looked all all over the entire world and all I saw was oppression. And on the side of the oppressor is power. And on the side of the oppressed, there is no one. When I read this actually first as an atheist, I took it as a challenge. I want to spend my life living with the oppressed against the powerful. But now as a Christian, I've come to understand that is what the gospel of Jesus Christ is. It is an answer to King Solomon's lament that we as Christians are called to stand with the vulnerable. Jesus kissed lepers. He knelt down next to the woman caught in the act of adultery. When you kiss a leper, people flee from you. When you say that you're conservative and you say that I stand with the Palestinian victims of genocide, people say about you what they say about the Palestinians. So it comes at a cost. What does Christian Zionism say that you can stand with power against the oppressed and you will be blessed? That's so true. That's so true. And it's very clearly true that they have all the power

12:38in the Palestinians, Lebanese people in the West Bank, you name it all across the Middle East, they have nothing. There's no way to fight against the empire. So it's really incumbent on us, the American citizens to vote with our dollar, vote with our speech and really inform everyone about what's going on. This is the thing. People say, oh, you're just talking, no, we're giving information and knowledge is power and the pen is mightier than the sword. And that's what all this is about. And you know what? I talk about the older generations all the time. I talk about this neoconspirate that really existed because we're at the zenith of American power in the 60s, 70s. And they just think we stole the same military, the same economy, the same society. When in reality, we've been so degraded by this evil we've committed. You know, we're in the spiritual debt and to perpetuate it and to move it forward. I just hope that we can provide people enough high quality information where they can wake up before it's too late. What's your perspective? You said you knew Huckabee earlier. What is up with this guy? You know, I actually was in Bethlehem during the inauguration. I have a lot of friends in the administration. I have, I could have been at any of the balls that I wanted to go to. And I wanted to spend the inauguration in Gaza.

13:42So I went to Jordan and I tried to work my way into Gaza. I was rejected permission to go into Gaza. We had been supporting the churches in Gaza. But I wanted to be there because I actually campaigned for Trump across the Lehigh Valley of Pennsylvania where there are 200,000 Middle Eastern Christians. And I thought I want to be with the most persecuted Christian community in the world, the churches in Gaza and text my friends, hey, how's the inauguration look where I am? But instead, I went to Bethlehem. While I was in Bethlehem, I met with many Christian leaders and they were horrified at the idea that the Huckabee might be the US ambassador to Israel. So they knew, they knew and they were horrified by this idea. And I said, you know, I know my Huckabee. And I think he is a very godly man. I think he's a better man than me. I'm not the greatest guy. I'm a flawed man. I became a Christian in my adult life. I'm not like my Huckabee. I didn't grow up in the faith. And I know him and I know his daughter and his, I know his son-in-law very well. And I adore them. And so I said, I think my Huckabee, when he gets the intelligence briefings, when he really gets to understand what's happening

14:44on the ground here as a Christian godly man, even though he is a dispensationalist and clings to Christian Zionism, I think he'll be a force for good. And I have to say I've never been more disappointed. I really just can't even believe it. I was asked by a reporter yesterday that's doing a story on conservatives that have been advocating for Palestinians. And they asked, have you lost friends? I have lost a lot of friends actually. And all the friends that I've lost are people who are actually paid for their opinion. So I haven't lost friends who don't get paid to advocate for a certain position. They're friends who's actually, you know, they're well-being and their family's security, depending on them not changing. And they've become bitter with me. And they said, do you, as you're sad, I go, I'm, I'm not really sad about losing my friends. I'm sad that my friends will have lost their dignity and their reputation for the rest of human history. It's like you were in a bed and you heard an alarm clock go off and you got up and they're in the same bed. They heard that alarm clock go off and its children screaming dying all the time.

15:46And they stayed right asleep because it's more comfortable to be in the bed than to wake up and live in reality. And here's the thing. I just looked at this from a perspective of Trump was my guy. I got my dad to support Trump 10 years ago. I watched that first debate. I said, that guy is going to be president. He called me stupid, but I ended up being correct. And I looked at it from a perspective, okay, this guy, I was anti-war kid. That's what I was raised on my first video report when I was like 11 years old was called terrorism 101, explaining proxy war and how we fund it, right? I looked at Trump as a legitimate anti-war figure. I believed him when he said, I don't want people to die. And especially after the first term, or he didn't start any new wars. I don't like the Syrian missile attack or whatever. But if you look at that, compared to what we have now, it is completely night and day. And you know, I believe in the guy that said he was going to end Ukraine conflict on day one. I believe in the guy that said no new wars in the Middle East. And what we've gotten kind of like, Huckabee, you're like, okay, I believe this person has this value set. I believe this person believes in these ideals. And to see them not only not acknowledge them to laugh about them, no, that is really macabre and disturbing. You know what I could be, I was

16:47in Bethlehem and I met someone that was in the delegation with Huckabee when he went into Gaza. And this gentleman took me aside and he thanked me for what I was doing. He said, you know, I was with the ambassador when he went in to and he came back and held a press conference and said that there are no signs of famine. And he said, I had my my upper lip that I had to watch the US ambassador lie to the cameras. And it is really strange to me. And you know, I often wonder what these are people, many of them are my friends. I've had relationships with 20 for 20 years, 30 years. I'm like, why are they silent? And at the end of the day, I think it's just a misplaced loyalty to their click, to their friend group, to somebody. So, you know, your friends with Mary Amadelsen, right? And you're in your Marco Rubio and she's blessed your career. Now you you talk to the undersecretaries of state who then pull the chains of the ambassador, who then call their journalist friends and they yank their chain and then they call me and they tell me Jason, take a knee, be my friend. At the end of the day, I think it's misplaced loyalty. My favorite line in any poem

17:52is from Rudyard Kipling's if if when all men can count on you, but not too much, you're a man. And if you think that you can count on me to be silent because we're friends, we've gone to dinner parties together, we went we hung out at CPAC in the 90s when we were college students together. If you think that's going to be reason enough for me to be silenced on a genocide, I chilled 18,000 children in Gaza, 18,000 children in Gaza without one living relative. No, but at the end of the day, I think all this this this cascade of people that we're looking at and you're probably like me perplexed and like you, I grew up anti-war. That's why I adored Inforge and your father. I worked for Papi Canon and then I was part of the team that took over the reform party. I came out of the infantry as a young man who was believed the lies of the propaganda of the young ambassador from Kuwait's daughter who said she saw them. Maybe they made it. Maybe they made it. Yeah, I saw that as a young infantryman and I wrote a letter to every

18:55commander I could of any unit deploying to Iraq begging to go. Fortunately, I was constantly getting in fist fights and getting Article 15's. So no lieutenant wanted to be in their platoon. So I stayed back at Scofield, Barracks Hawaii. My unit never deployed. But I was such an erage. And then when I came to understand that those were all lies. And then I discovered Ron Paul and Infor Wars and Papi Canon. My conservatism was birthed from two things. My commitment to defending the child and the wound from the violence of abortion. Yep. And to protecting just vulnerable civilians and human beings from the utter catastrophe of war and war is unfortunately because of my work at the vulnerable people project, which is the main program of hero, we make movies, but through vulnerable people project for 23 years, I was in Iraq with the Peshmerga as they liberated villages from from ISIS. And I got to see what ISIS did and was left behind. I was in the front lines of the war in Ukraine in the early days, leading evacuation efforts. I was in Sudan in 2008 and 9 during the genocide. And there's nothing more tragic,

20:02irrational and disgusting and appalling than war. Right. And when you see American politicians going like Lindsey Graham or Nikki Haley going to Israel and signing missiles with smiles on their face. Sickening. It's yeah, it's unbelievable. And there's a real debt to that and that debt is coming home into spiritual debt. We can really witness it, you know, and how our own country is declining. Now things are falling apart here because how could you expect things to be better when you're literally you're performing abortions right now on innocent Palestinian families, Lebanese families families in the West Bank. That's what killing them and leaving their children, you know, fatherless motherless is they don't have the means to survive. I've interviewed Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Aguilar, worked for the GHF was a whistleblower on that. And he says it very clearly. I witnessed a mother dragging her three children on a palette towards the food because if she tries to bury her children, they'll kill her in a drone strike. How do you come back from that? I really don't think you can. And anybody that says, oh,

21:02you want the left to win. Next was he it's bigger than that. It's about human life. It's about man being made in the image of God. And when you violate that, when you write their lives away, you can't do that. You can't say we're Americans. We have weak neighbors to our north and south in oceans, fish to our left and right. That doesn't work. We're promoting and paying for ultimately committing these genocides in the Middle East. We have a break coming up. I want to get back into this and so much more. There's a lot more to cover. I want to talk about kind of your futurist perspective based on what you've seen. Also, I want you to get into the Boomer question and just the state of American politics and what you see as the greatest vehicle for change. I think we're both in a agreeance that media really spreading the message and getting people aware is the number one thing that we can do. But I'm sure there's so much more. Jason, really quick, your latest film coming out, the gravity and weight of supporting the administration, the gravity and weight of supporting these wars. And why we can't do it going forward into the future. So I want to ask you about the Boomer question that's number one. And then I want to ask you about your futurist vision. What do you see? Because ultimately this power block in the country,

22:02they've been the dominant voting block for 30 years, 60 out of 99 senators are boomers. It's not as much in the house, but it's still very, very significant. Where do you see this progressing in the minds of young people and just people that are really like under the age of 70 people that are going to be here and going to be voting for a while? I think there's a mass awakening going on, Jason. What do you think? Yeah, no, the Gen Z gives me hope. Also, I have fear, but I have hope. And I want to go back to the Boomer question. I'm Gen X, but I'm going to use Boomer in the Gen Z way. It's just kind of everyone who made it through puberty without an iPhone is kind of a Boomer. Right. There's a not there's actually a brilliance to that. We are different. I think I have children that are that are early millennials. I have my oldest child is 36. My youngest is 12. And so my children have lived across these different generational. You know, I've had children that made it to 10 years before their father had a cell phone in his pocket. Right. Or before their father had an email account and I have children that hit puberty, you know, they had an iPhone in the house since the day they were born. So there's a real difference to that. So Gen Z gives me hope. But I want to go back to the Boomers. First of all, the baby Boomers

23:08properly speaking, you know, to have empathy, they were rocked. It's not all leave it to beaver. They're the generation that was born into a world that had just experienced the greatest scandal in human history, World War II. Just mass human slaughter. And they didn't have faith in any of their institutions. They were being raised by fathers that were traumatized by war. The churches failed. Everything failed. And the world just collapsed into this hell. So it's strange that you can look at this generation that started out with like the age of Aquarius, hippie, peacenix and how it's how they like to see themselves. And now when they went through the, you know, the 80s where they were, you know, trying to make all their money they could and wearing their Miami vise suits and they became their parents. Yeah. Yeah. And then now they're saying flatten your rod. You're like, well, how did we go from Woodstock to flatten your rod? How did we go to the civil rights movement to all Muslims and all Arabs are evil, grab them, throw them an

24:11advance and deport them? It's quite striking, but I think we have to understand they were a lost generation in a way that they had no institutions that they trusted that they could form them. And now you have Gen Z. Gen Z and then maybe and Gen Xers, we kind of got to live in this kind of peaceful Indian summer in history where we had the looming maybe global thermal nuclear war, but you know, probably not. But Gen Z is your back is against the wall. You have a generation that I, to me, you're an orphan generation. You're a calumnated generation. You're an angry generation. But then you listen to the boomers and they act as if you have nothing to worry about, nothing to complain about. No one is thinking about you. The country is in a reverse mortgage, you know, like I said, we have a reverse mortgage on the country so that we can leave the boomers can leave with nothing left for you to have. And they inherited a beautiful country as you said in Oasis. And I got to live in that. You have AI, deleting your dreams. I was just at the Beverly Hills Film Festival for one of my

25:17films and it was a charming experience and I love these film festivals and I love the experience. And I thought, how many of these am I going to get to go to in the future? I'm feeling sorry for myself. I'm 54. I've produced 20 movies and I looked around at the young filmmakers and I'm like, what if I was a young writer, a young director? What if I was in school right now and I wanted to be a journalist? You know, so young people are seeing their hopes and their dreams, deleted by technology, no one cares. They're being given an authoritarian technocratic surveillance state and they're saying if you resist that, you're a communist. If you resist forever wars, you want to destroy Western civilization. And so to me, you have a generation that is very serious. That is taking responsibility for itself in a way that to me is almost sourful. It's like, if we don't care for ourselves, no one is going to care for us. That's beautiful. We're mourning the country. And I say this all the time. It's true. And you can say, oh, well, you're on the technology, you're on the screens. And yes, because of that so much, because we're all victims of that propaganda,

26:20we're actually the first generation to recognize the danger of it and to want to get away from it. And I think that's where knowledge comes into truly being power as well. If you're under the age of 30, you can't ignore any of this because you're just your social media networks, your friends are posting about it. They're all talking about it. But if you live in kind of the Fox News only household environment that Thomas Massey talked about, when he made that appeal, I knew it was all doomed because if we have people voting in our elections that are just doing what the cable TV tells them to say, and that's just, that's an arm of the government. That's like North Korean media. I'm sorry, that's my opinion. I believe that to be true. If that is where people get their belief system from, I did this street interview with this Boomer guy. And he made the point of saying, oh, the radical Iranian theocracy, that's why we got to kill them all. That's why the following of the schoolgirls is okay. It's why we can kill the Itolla. And it's like brother, you support another theocracy that's taken over our government. You support a state that wants to rebuild the third temple and wants to reconstitute greater Israel, a state from 3000 years ago, when they were given the land by the British 78 years ago. And that position is so outrageous on

27:21its face. Somebody that's in my age, it's seen the facts and information, not from a hateful perspective, just from a realist perspective. This isn't my fight. This isn't my thing, but it becomes my fight when you spend my money to use the bombs to kill them. And they look at you, blink blink. And I don't get it. I had a friend yesterday. He said to me, I just come back from Lebanon and I, I kind of was just pouring too much into him. You know, he's like, oh, no. He's like, well, but Fox, he literally said, well, but Fox news. I said, oh, Lord, I said, don't watch fire. Are you in create? I go watch CNN. CNN doesn't know how to lie to you. CNN's trying to lie to someone else. Fox news knows how to lie to you. Don't ever watch Fox news. He goes, I was really like blink blink. But if he said this word for word, but if I can't trust Fox news, what source can I trust? Word help us. And this is the same guy in people like him that'll say, Gen Z is being brainwashed by TikTok to think there is a genocide in Gaza. When I tell them that I have been there, that I have witnessed it with my own eyes, then the response is, oh, you were indoctrinated by Hamas. So you can't win. If I go there and I see it with my own eyes, I guess I

28:27was kidnapped and hypnotized. They raised the burden of proof to an impossible standard. And then their lies require no evidence. You know, there's this one example where Emily saves America's Aver Doors so and Kim Higby. They went out to the Egyptian side of the border, right? We have this like fake AD post set up and I'm in fulfillment. I own a fulfillment center. So I understand how you're supposed to store perishable items. You have a bunch of ripped open boxes of food standing out in the desert and like, look at all the A they're not starving. Mike Huckabee said they needed ozimpic. Once you reach that level of propaganda, and you've literally seen it. I've just talked to the witnesses. I mean, what are what emotions is that of, oh, can you? It's, it's reprehensible. They need ozimpic. Think about that. I mean, I know that my Huckabee to be fair is an expert in ozimic. Yes. He's. This is cruel. It's really beyond belief. And when you hear Pete Higgseth cough for a crusade, a man who is not deeply grounded in his Christian faith, where our faith

29:29becomes nothing but an instrument of bigotry and prejudice. And this is a fear I have for your generation. I don't want Gen Z. Because again, the devil is a judo master to react to bigotry and prejudice that take you one way to create a foment bigotry and prejudice that take you another way. The gospel of Jesus Christ should liberate us from that. We are a human family. Western civilization was birthed by Christianity, but Christianity comes from the east. It comes from Bethlehem. I had a Christian leader say to me, there you know, the Palestinian Christians aren't really Christians. They've been arabized. I'm like, if you read the book of Acts, you know what one of the languages was in the upper room Arabic? Do you know the second century? The second tribes to convert in an entirety to our Christian faith were Arab. Do you know the councils that gave us all of the core beliefs of our faith took place in lands that today we would consider Arab? It's this but this type of prejudice or people will say when they hear the name ala ala, the name

30:30that Jesus used the name Arab from Aramaic ala, who sounds like ala more than it sounds like our word God. But they will foment bigotry and foment prejudice. And the way I look at it is as a Christian and I am a Christian and my organization right now we have Armigarde's outside of churches, synagogues, girls schools for Muslim girls in Afghanistan. We're protecting the innocent people. Yeah, we want to share the gospel of Jesus Christ by standing with those outside of social concern. This is my goal. My assistant once someone said to her, Jason's not, you know what I like about Jason? He's not trying to convert anyone. She goes, no, he's trying to convert everyone. And that is true. I'm trying to convert everyone by treating every human person the way they deserve to be true. You're living your faith. Yeah, I want there there that they're either a lost sheep. And we need to bring them into the fold or there are brothers and sisters in Christ. But how does fomenting prejudice and bigotry this new red green scare? Oh, the communists and Muslims by communists, they don't mean the CCP, which is a legitimate threat. There's three million

31:36weekers in concentration camps. Phone, Gong practitioners are having their organs forcibly harvested. There have been 15 Catholic bishops just vanished for standing up to the regime. The CCP has a real threat. No, when you hear the red green RNC squeeze the boomer for the last drop of juice campaign that you can, when they say communist, they mean the 19 year old girl who has purple hair and a nose ring and is scandalized by violence and no one caring about her future. And how her femininity has been bombarded with pornography and cruelty through media. And so she's lost and she's angry and she's confused. She's not should not be an instrument of electoral political strategy. But when you hear any politician or any activist use red green, what they're doing is they're trying to create fear for scared youth. That's what they mean by communist. And they go, oh, they're in line with Islamists. I lost an employee last year to Boko Haram. I lost two to the idea when they bombed our baby formula factory and it was our

32:38baby formula warehouse in Gaza. It was a big international scandal. So last year we lost three of our people. There is a real threat from Islamism. But the idea that Arab Americans or Muslim Americans running for a political officer and existential threat to this great Christian civilization that we have, what are they talking about? Do you know that Dearborn broke for Trump? It's a great point. Dearborn broke for Trump. Trump won because of Gaza. In fact, it was reported widely the Trump won because of Gaza. And every quote unquote democratic socialist or Islamist that they say is winning. They're winning because of Gaza. And if we ran as conservatives rather than fomenting fear, what we should be doing is giving young people answers. If he had stopped the genocide, if he had stopped the wars, if he had actually brought peace to the Middle East, he would have there have been five more Republican presidents. This is the point I make all the time when they blame the voter that actually cared about what they were voting for instead of like slogan rhetoric or

33:40like false ideology. When they say Rex, your anti war, but you're making the Democrats win by criticizing Trump. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't support Trump. The man I support the values and ideology that he claimed to run on. And he lied to me. He lied to my generation. He lied. I got friends from all over man. I got Mexican friends at Rontaco trucks. I got black friends. My co-host Tim Topkins who's from New York, Democrat voter his whole life, but he took a chance on Trump because he genuinely believed he was a anti war guy. And then he was going to repair our economy. When in fact, we have a war economy. That's the economic resurgence that they're trying to sell us on. They say, Hey, we can make money off selling weapons. We can make money off killing kids. We can make money by sending American sons and daughters off the bases that can't be defended. Can't be defended that then get hit with drone strikes with missile strikes because we got ourselves in a war. I just, I want to talk about this for a second because this is so key. We got like 11 minutes left here in the segment. I want to talk about the attack on the knob and the attack on the IOT. First off, the attack on the IOT is like the dumbest thing you could do. You think kill on their

34:41Pope, their religious leader, much less their actual leader, their country. I think that's going to make people submit. Of course, it's going to make them rally around the fact, not a flag, not to mention it's a damn war crime. They hit him in his house. They killed his entire family. But when we kill 165 elementary school girls, it's completely disgusting. We kill them. Their teachers as well in a double or triple tap attack and then Trump and headsets come out almost smiling on the plane, man, sand. We think it was a run. They're very imprecise with their munitions. They bomb their own school in the first hours of the war. Where do these people get off, man? No, it's really it's hard to listen. It's unbelievable. And there's no apology. There's no guilt. It's and this is the same guy, Haguezath, who's calling for a crusade. Right. You know, meanwhile, the crusades were to protect Christians in the Holy Land. Right. And our Christians in the Holy Land are being brutalized by our greatest ally by weapons that we fund. You look at Iran. Now, the regime is brutal. In fact, I work with Afghan refugees, Hazara, her Shia minority that had to flee Afghanistan because they were allies of ours.

35:46They actually had to flee Afghanistan when the Taliban came back to power and they went to Iran. And even though they're Shia, they suffer abuse. They're discriminated against. The regime is cruel. But here's the reality. There are a million Christians in Iran. Churches across Iran. There are synagogues in Iran. There's a large Jewish community in Iran. Do you know, I did a documentary and if you go to our vulnerable people project.com website, you can see it. We wanted to make sure the Christians and Jews would be safe in Iran when the war launched started and the war kicked off. So I set camera crews to visit the Jewish communities in Iran. We filmed the oldest extent use synagogue in the world. Okay. So on October 18, 2023, the IDF bombed the oldest church in the world, St. Praforius that's been in permanent use since the third century. Well, guess what they did 11 days after my team finished documenting the oldest synagogue in the world. I had it. IDF bombed the synagogue bombed the Jewish neighborhood. There are a million Christians.

36:49There are a million Christians practicing their faith in Iran. How many are practicing their faith in Saudi Arabia? Would you rather be a Christian in Iran or a Christian in Gaza? You'd rather be a Christian in Iran. And if you don't understand this, then you have to acknowledge you don't understand the region. The region can be very complex, especially a country like Lebanon. You have a lot of vulnerable Christian communities and other ethnic and religious communities that have different colonial relationships, different regional power relationships and great power relationships since the fall of the Ottoman Empire. It can be very confusing and the sad thing is it's a proxy region. So every community is used as a proxy by some other community to achieve their interests in the region. And so the whole region is a mess. But the problem is that we as the great power and I am a conservative, I don't want an America to have a peer. I don't want China or Russia or India to be our peer for world order. But how do I what what what what what

37:51how do we we're creating those conditions? We've been created. And why is that because we have not treated our partner nations is an end in themselves. We've treated them as means to an end instrumentalized anyone who has been faithful to us Henry Kissinger who was was a big part of the problem famously said and he should know me maybe it was his recipe. He said to be our enemy is dangerous to be our friend is fatal. Yeah. And that's been quite sourful and it's been true. You know, most of the Christians in Iraq were ethnically cleansed or it's actually called a Cleasy aside. We're cleansed by the time Obama came into power. But where were we? I was even missing an action and you know, we weren't speaking up on this. Even I was trying to I didn't do a very I founded my organization actually in 2002 to advocate for Christians in case we invaded. But we didn't do a good job. And no one paid attention. You've literally been doing this since I was born.

38:51That's wild to think about I was born in 2002. And this scale of what's been going on, you know, it's everyone's aware of it now because of the cell phone and stuff. But the entire region has been, you know, a playground for a really demonic energy, demonic forces and always the civilians, innocent civilians. So the casualty of these wars you mentioned ISIS earlier. We set that up the Israelis bankrolled it as well. And you know, you need a bad guy to fight in order to say, Oh, we got to go in here or you need him to fight somebody else that you don't like. And it's our stated policy in the region since the early 2000s that we don't want secular democracies there. We don't want it. We rather have some radical militant leader just turning to Syria for a second. All Shara formerly all Giuliani. This is a terrorist head chopping pig. This is a man that's held the heads of Christian children, Muslim children, Alouette children in his hands. He comes to our White House in his spray with perfume. That makes me just completely vomit. You can watch him in general Patreas on a stage together laughing saying, Oh, we used to be against each other now. We're on the same side. You're always on the same side. I was with the Peshmerga while they were fighting ISIS. And

39:53they would tell me that they would be ordered. In fact, my son, my oldest son was in Iraq. And it was very tense and it looked like the Peshmerga and the US might collide. And I was like messaging my son. You need to stand down and tell your commander that you're Peshmerga and your dad is with Peshmerga and don't fire on us. And the Peshmerga were told, if you fire on ISIS in their moments of vulnerability, the US will fire on you. What we would do is we would allow ISIS to take over Christian villages, rape and plunder, then we would flatten the village. So we were partners in the destruction of the whole of the possibility. You know, to me, it's Mordor. It's really Mordor. You go there. And to me, the Middle East, it's just it's shire after shire after shire. Each village is different than the next. You know, when you're in southern Lebanon, these three Christian villages that are right next to each other, remesh, enable, and enable. To me, and I don't mean this to be offensive

40:55to the residents there, they kind of seemed like one village. They were really close together. It would be like three housing developments. That's how close they were together, but they were ancient and distinct. And they would talk about, I enable when you're in remesh, like someone in Montana might talk about Idaho, completely different communities. And then you would hear these railings say, well, we have to bomb them because they are in cahoots with Hezbollah, the shia, even further away. No, that's not true. Not true at all. So when you go across the Middle East, first of all, you're going to be charmed. And each village, each community is really unique, really distinct, really beautiful, really charming. And then you see the war machine come in, whether it's United States, whether it was the Soviet Union or Russia, or whether it's Israel, the terrorists in general, the terrorists that are proxies. It's more to her. And they crush and destroy everything ancient, ancient, everything wholesome and everything beautiful.

42:01And that is what ethnic cleansing is. That is what genocide is. When they burned down those olive trees and they tear up the churches, you could have those things for yourself, theoretically, if it's some conquering thing, it's not about that. They want those people's mark on the land that thousand year, two thousand year history. They want that erased for their project. And I think in America, one of our real weaknesses, of course, it's great that we're such a, you know, story nation. We invented so many things, don't so much things for good across the world, not just bad. We're a very new country, 250 years old, literally last year. So for us to have the historical framework of saying, okay, these places are a thousand, two thousand years old. That's just a number to us. We don't really get that. We don't really understand. These people literally have an unbroken chain to Jesus. They have an unbroken history with Jesus Christ. And for us to call ourselves a Christian nation for us to support fun, actually, you know, tear down churches ourselves, bomb churches ourselves. I think, you know, one of our politicians you mentioned it earlier, I think when they do a little signature on a bomb, I think that's what that is. We got about two minutes left in this segment. We're going to do one more phenomenal information. Just what's your take on

43:04that? What makes it ethnic cleansing really quick? You mean there they simply mean to remove them from the land and they say it. And then we say, even my, some of my big supporters, I'll say, hey, we need to buy trucks. Four-wheel drive trucks to get eight. And I call a good friend and supporter just yesterday. He goes, but Jason, why don't they just leave? Wow. I said, well, but if they leave, Israel is going to destroy every church and every home that has been there for two thousand years. He's like, well, better to destroy their property than their life. Compromising on everything. And I said, you know what? I'm an angle American. My family has moved every 60 years since 900 AD. I can actually track it across the map through ancestry.com. Yeah, that's what we do. But no, this isn't what they do. This is their home. This is their land. They are rooted. And there was a priest that just said a couple of months ago in southern Lebanon, you will have to kill me. I won't leave. And then Israel killed them the next day. And this is the choice they will make. These three villages, Ramesh, Enable and Dable, they said, we will die. We are not leaving because we see what they did to the other Christian villages. The Christians left. And Israel came in and destroyed churches that have been there for centuries.

44:08Monasteries that have been there for centuries. millennia. They're homes. Everything that matters to them. They destroyed senselessly for no reason. We went that famous scene of the Israeli soldier that went crazy stabbing and smashing and bashing the crucifix of Jesus over and over trying to smash the face of the crucifix. I got to stand above that crucifix. It was actually quite frightening. And it was like, wow, they crucified Christ again. What's interesting is though because it went so viral when that IDF soldier raged on a crucifix of a white plastic Jesus and resonated with the American people. And the residents of southern Lebanon say, if not for that soldier's rage and that statue of Jesus, we would have been erased from the land already. So they cross protected them after all. That's so beautiful man. It's also so tragic. We're going to get back with so much more news. Where do people find your films? You can find all of our films at, if you go on an IMDB, Jason Jones, but it vulnerable people

45:09project. You can see all of our documentaries on vulnerable Christian communities around the world. It's vulnerablepeopleproject.com.