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0:00This hour of the Bill Meyer show podcast is proudly sponsored by Closer Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Fight out more about them at CloserDrilling.com. 10 after eight Charles Goyette joins me here in a couple of minutes, author of Empire of Lies, fragments from the memory holds. Good read. I've been reading it last few days till digging in. Todd's here, central point. Todd, you have a connection with Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris passing away at the age of 86. What's up? Yeah, I never would have thought he was that old. I just maybe I always thought he was perpetually young. To me, he was always perpetually 46, 46 years old in my mind, you know what I mean? Kind of that age, you know, not a kid, but not an old man, but I guess he was. Yeah, I grew up in Los Angeles and his first dojo was in Sherman Oaks and both my brothers and my sister attended that dojo. And it was fun. I was a kid in 1970s. And so it was fun to

1:00go to the events and to have him step up. And I remember my brother, who was only a teenager at time, was very, very good. And Chuck Norris sparred with him and kind of put my brother in his place. And I always took a kind of person. I thought, oh, how dare he do that? My brother never, my brother never looked at it that way. My brother was idolized him. But I was, oh, come on, you beat up a kid. But he and he and Bruce Lee at the time were very good friends. And that's what really launched Chuck Norris was Bruce Lee's movie. Yeah, well, even if he, even if he played the bad guy in the Bruce Lee movie, right, is what he did. Yeah, we have the dragon. Yeah, we have the dragon. But yeah, but of course, you know, hey, what would the culture be without that? You know, I especially love the way they would dub those old, those old kung fu fighting movies back when the 1970s and which everybody talks like this, right? You know, that kind of thing. I remember if he had an impact all around the world, I was the park ranger in California. And I worked in a

2:04park that had a lot of Russian dignitaries would come there and had Russian roots. And I remember this one Russian diplomat came up to me in broken English and said, a ranger like Walker Texas ranger. Oh, that's fun. No great story. Hey, Todd, thanks for thanks for sharing the touch with greatness. Okay. Yeah, the great Charles, go ahead. We'll join me here in a couple of minutes. And I can't wait to further discuss the empire of lies fragments from the memory hole highly recommended read right back this hour of the Bill Myers show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing for roofing gutters and sheet metal services visit Fontana Roofing Services dot com. Do you have an electrical checklist at your house that needs to be completed call completed electric plus needed dimmer switch installed completed fan installation completed breaker problems completed new plug by your favorite chair completed electrical jobs around the house get completed quickly expertly and affordably with license tax from completed electric plus specializing

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4:09great flavors make the switch grainberry the official cereal of the Sean Hannity show. One of the biggest challenges we have these days is trying to discern the truth of what's going on around us and I have to tell you it you know people will ask me well what do you think's happening here and I'll be the first to tell you I don't know I have an opinion or a theory about things and a lot of times the real truth of situations is not fully revealed until years after the after the criminals have committed their crimes so to speak and I'm speaking of government criminals quite often and here to discuss just that and I've been enjoying his book I'm about three four chapters in right now and I dive into the Kindle as often as I can to continue reading Charles

5:15Goyette is the author of Empire of lies fragments from the memory hole Charles you're an award-winning talk show host still national you are you syndicated or you do a national podcast what are you doing these days I've actually left the air waves and exclusively exclusively right so I'm enjoying being on the other side of conversations these days I'll tell you that's a real skill in them of itself because the few times that I have been interviewed Charles I am as nervous is all hell I don't know how to comport myself sometimes when I when I get interviewed because it's very different to be on my side controlling the interview and then the other person you know doing the other side you agree well Bill let me tell you something you're you you're a standout among among cocktails because you actually read the material as you said you're you're reading my book and I was like you and I would read the material and this is a piece of karma it's just a story but it's it's a piece of a piece of karma that I experienced I would sometimes read the first book

6:17and then I would ask him a question about it and to my astonishment on the air they didn't know the answer and I said well that's funny it's right there on page 223 in your book oh no so no but Bill when I wrote when I wrote my first book which you and I talked about years ago when it first came out I had just a little nugget of information I tried to figure out something minor just for purposes of illustration like how much the American people pay in taxes to service the portion of debt held by China or something like that just the illustration and I'd written it by a year later when the book was finally published I got on a talk show and somebody said now Charles how much interest does the average of where I could fancy pay on this share of the national debt oh by by China and I said I don't really know and he said well that's funny it's on page 1119 in your book oh you got to be kidding me there's no they did it to you right yeah they did it to me and it's it taught me a lesson but I enjoyed being on this side of it this time okay well that's good I'll give you just a funny story about you know people would always think the radio

7:18hosts or know everything right and people would call up now I was a DJ long before I was a talk show host and I was at my first radio station in bar still K I O T a little flea bag station either that station yeah and it is now it's now it's a Mexican satellite station I was talking about that earlier this morning and so the point being though is that people would call in and they would say all right okay so what's the point gap on a on a 63 Chevy or something yeah I was like it's like 16,000 I said and I had a Chevy so I said I think it was 16,000 so I think is what I said and it could have been I I hope I got that number right because it's been 45 years since I've since I really mentioned it and he goes gosh you know you radio people really do know everything and I'm laughing because it's just no I just had a Chevy you know that's all it was fortunate that they have rock which is the step up for most radio guys yeah exactly exactly Charles I wanted to talk with you a little bit about get you're getting

8:19your thing like I said I'm three four four chapters deep on this one and it has been healthy to go back and revisit especially the early part of the book which is 9 11 TWA flight 800 you know the missile downing in my opinion of what that of that and how well we have to be careful about in our representative republic whatever is left of it at this point is that whatever we hear from the government even the government people that we tend to like at the federal level we have to take it with a grain of salt a grain of salt isn't that we're almost like the takeaway of the empire of lies shouldn't we be doing that shouldn't that right and and when people verify things even you know ordinary citizens that have no no part of the public debate when they verify things drop and astonished about what they find the witnesses mentioned TWA fly 800 at July 1996 terrible TWA crash off of Long Island on its way to Perra the witness the eyewitnesses first of all

9:23weren't called the official hearing there were hundreds of them and they did not they were not participants in the official hearing and even worse years later many of them who had given statements to the FBI had a chance to revisit their statements and found that they had been completely changed these ordinary Americans I mean hey Charles could you read that position yourself we're losing you a little bit and I want to hear it all I want to make sure we hear it all yeah can you do that well I was just saying that even some some eyewitnesses to the TWA 800 tragedy gave statements at the time to the FBI and when they looked back a couple of years later they were had an opportunity to see the files and see their statements they discovered that their own statements had been changed and as I said these are people with a political axe to grind these aren't people that had any any side there were no sides there's just people trying to tell the truth of what they saw and yet they were astonished to see how many of them had substantial changes

10:27in their accounts of what they have seen there's a very disturbing phenomenon that occurs in awful lot of times now it's like the it's like the it's like the disappearing you know videotapes and so on of Jeffrey Epstein's cell it's just peculiar how often those things sort of disappear down the memory hole also the magical disappearance of videotape evidence that showed what actually hit the Pentagon in 9-11 during the 9-11 attains at that point ain't that peculiar yeah the more the more stuff that disappears the more you want to know what what really happened I I don't know why something should be a national security threat you know a video from Circle K or joining businesses of what happened and how it could be withheld for years I had a famous debate with a reporter from one of the one of the magazines I don't remember anyone on his reputation goes either popular mechanics or something like that years ago and they were treated to write an account the

11:30bunching questions about 9-11 they were treated to the inside information that the American people couldn't see and that seemed very peculiar to me how does a journalist how does a private publication company get to get shown selective inside information that has been held in secrecy by the government but it is not revealed at large to the people this stuff is it's of course it's because it's a you know it's used industriously it's used to affect some of the information is shown to a special effect and we're left to wonder what and I tend to look at most news reporting on everything and this is not this is not about the Trump administration I just look at this as about the government in general this is something that I think you will find going through republican administrations through democratic administrations it is the one continuing theme that I tend to look at news reporting especially on the national level as everything seems to be a limited hangout is that kind of a fairway like everything it like we yeah we tell you

12:34enough that yeah you're you're thinking that something's really going on but you're never really hearing the whole story because everything's massaged everything you know bill one of the things I hold up I think there's an object before the curiosity maybe an object of shame is some of the biggest news outlets in America when they found for example Brian Williams was the primary anchor on NBC News at night NBC night news yeah and he started making up tales about what he saw and how he was involved in some breathtaking adventures when he flew into Iraq as part of a mission at the first in the first Gulf War as an observer and so on and he changed and he elaborated those accounts that became frightening then I saw a missile headed right toward us and it was an RPG headed down the tube and we had to corkscrew land and with each telling it got more and more elaborate until finally the guys were actually on the mission blue the whistle it starts and stripes and they said this isn't what happened there was no threat to that mission there was a later one

13:36that did wish fired on by a by an RPG and Brian Williams story is purely made up and and when he was confronted with the truth of that he said oh denying responsibility personally itself he tried to shove he said oh maybe I had a brain tumor okay the worst part of it is that the corporation that hired him it was general electric NBC didn't have enough respect for its viewers to you know to relieve him of his position to say you know we trust these people to report on things far away that they understand very little of but to dig out and get the truth about those and yet if they're lying to you about the things they know best their own experiences then we can't entrust them with the with your viewers ship and we'll have to let them go we're very sorry if he has a brain tumor we will pay for his MRI whatever it is but but this this time has gone on with a number of networks that have found their their lead guys out misrepresenting

14:36things whole clock and they don't have enough respect in my view to protect even their own franchise and when it comes right down to it we know that human nature when we tell a story is sometimes to add in the occasional embellishment you know when your storytelling you know we get that here's a there's a little bit about it but it's it's one thing to you know talk about though the missile corkscrewing into you etc etc and and if you're willing to lie that much about that what else are you willing to lie about because you've pretty much indicated that you're a liar now there are like I said there are the little truths are untruths that I think are part of the social lubricant of conversation of every day conversation fair enough I mean we can forgive that yeah sure there's that people like to exaggerate make themselves important I suppose everybody alone time in their life might have met somebody in a bar someplace who was the regalia with tales about when he was a navy field or green beret when he really wasn't you feel like you know in a way you feel kind of sympathetic for him you know there's a hole in their psyche or they're not recognized for

15:36their genuine good qualities and want to embellish but you know like for example folks there's had a guy on by the name of Wayne Simmons for years and he was supposed to be a CIA national security expert and they called him not because of the wisdom of what he said but they called it because you know it's despite ratings fear is good war is good for ratings it's a part of his alert and they had this guy on all the time and he came out with the most a landish recommendation I mean I 15 years ago at least he was he was talking about we need to watch a ground invasion of a ran that was way back then and so finally some real CIA guys blew whistle him and he said to be the pop up to entry yeah yeah hey I'm starting to lose you a little bit here hey can I take a break and call you back on a different line see if we can get you a little bit better you bet I want to hear this about about the CIA like I said the the limited hangout world we live in a Charles boy yet author of empire of lies fragments from the memory hole we'll continue next on the bill

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18:44All right I think we got Charles going back on a better line you doing okay there are Charles I'm doing great Ron okay well still a little fuzzy we'll we'll think the best of it as we can okay hey we were uh you were talking about the Fox News guy that ended up being essentially a fraud right what you were saying yeah yeah it was uh it was not a CIA national terrorism security expert he was with a hot manager and a bookie and uh you know what but there was it was they liked him on the on the air and they kept him there because of the outlandishness of what he said you know it's the extreme extreme views that made uh you know viewers hot and stuff and food and said war along the way but you know here's what here's what happens to to people even that are trying to tell you the truth they're in 2003 the Bush administration said the Iraq war was was going to cost about $50 billion and the the guy who said that was a really good economist I think his name was Larry Lizzie and I used to read it occasionally he said the Iraq war is going to

19:47cost about $50 billion well when the cost actually came in it was over three trillion they made this stuff up as they go along the uh um I remember Rumsfeld saying we know where the weapons baskets action are where somebody asked him and he said well they are north and south and east and west of decree which if you know anything about geography he means they're anywhere any place in the world you know it's like started and I think go north southeast west that pretty much covers the globe but of course they didn't know where the weapon basket structure were and there were double evidence that uh that he didn't and and yet the people that go the truth were qualified for their efforts and the people that misled the country the war you are still showing on TV every but well that said there was no there was no evidence whatsoever that anybody would ever use claims as a as a weapon of attack on America told us that over and over and over in Bush can at least arise our client here oh yeah and and and that was in the early part of the book

20:50which I read in which you were revisiting 9-11 and it was astounding that and that was one of the claims I remember the claims coming out and this is not a republican thing because we get the same kind of lies coming out of all but this is one of the biggest ones that ended up leading to the rise of the security state but there were multiple times in multiple security warnings that uh uh of uh of the possible use of terrorist flying planes into buildings this was nothing that was uh that was not considered before true I think the most example of the expected of the Atlanta Olympic the republican convention the don't have to continue long beforehand but most telling example is g7 meeting took place in Italy you know these are where the heads hey I'm gonna have to ask Charles I'm still losing you on the cell I didn't know is there any way I can I'm sorry I'm sorry about this I'm sorry to complain about it but I'm just having we're having trouble hearing you of course of course can you buy a window or anything like that anyway we can make that happen I don't know if you are I could do that I might show all the bars I need that's

21:55there plenty of bars but let me step over here see if this doesn't yeah let's see yeah I just want to make sure yeah makes any difference don't test untest to that's not it's not for some reason we're just having a bad cell day with you hey I'll tell you what can I invite you back another day maybe we can get you another way of course can you do zoom or anything like that maybe we can do it that way and at any time I still enjoy being on your show okay I want to get you come come back but I want to be able to hear you because the stories that you tell in empire lies are worth hearing and worth hearing the whole thing I'll have Charles back we'll get the the cell phone situation figured out another day maybe get him on a zoom call or somewhere the way if you can hang bond just a second Charles we'll we'll do that disappointed I can't finish it up but that we will finish it with him on a different day it is 8.33 empire of lies fragments from the memory hole well worth your time this is the Bill Myers show I'll get his information up and Drake's paint and supply we know your color because we know our community four decades we've partnered with

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24:01of cable next star owns coin TV while Tegna owns KGW TV both in Portland a Woodburn Oregon man charged with threatening to kill the US Senator 51-year-old Donald Lee Roy Smith Jr appeared in federal court yesterday to face the music court documents saying November last year he left a voicemail for a US Senator threatening to quote put a bullet in your head end quote a judge ordered him released pending future court action at a talent man arrested and charged with crimes related to a January rash of car breakings in the city of Ashland according to the RV times an off-duty Ashland police officer Alex Bonaparte was driving on i5 notice the suspect vehicle matching surveillance footage of the crimes. Bonaparte arresting 37-year-old Brandon Wilson of talent Wilson gave a confession and a search of the vehicle turned up even more evidence of the break-ins Bill Meyer KMED news 835 and I'm sorry I'm just reading a joke here from Dan I'm loving after all the serious news you know the news report and all the rest of this stuff here Dan writes

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28:17drives and get signed up the bill Meyer show is on news talk 1063 KMED it's a 39 wrap it up a week here with your calls to depend you have some emails in the day to 7705633 I like this to elastic up yeah I like a one hit wonder and looking at the window at the scoop is Steve I just always like the the sound of that love that crunchy guitar that jangle rock guitar good stuff anyway 770 KMED we got to miter Dave hello Dave welcome yeah I was noticing on YouTube that they were talking about if you're born between 1954 and 1965 that you're not really a boomer that your generation Jones and that we were in between them and Jim X Jim X because the true boomers got everything ahead of us and we got what was left over and when

29:23we started working like you probably in 79 or 80 you know we had all kinds of problems and then we had the you know 18% housing market you know for interest and that we've had to reinvent ourselves more than once well there's a case to be made there it's funny that you bring this up generation Jones is what I've read that research on this to they talk about 1955 to 1965 Gen X is technically 65 till the what late 70s I think forget but the point being though is every generation what I don't like is the these wars between the generations in which you know it's the boomers fall or it's your greatest generations fall towards the silent generations fall you know that we find yourselves in this every generation of Americans or just people in general you're always a product of the time that you're living in right now and when they talked about the baby boom generation

30:28they were just taking it as large birth rate and it was a large birth rate back at that time and it that technically ended 1964 1965 when the birth rates ended up going down but you're right that the the psychology of the generations and what they grew up with were very different because even though I love the music from the 1960s the revolution the sexual revolution all that kind of stuff didn't mean anything to me Woodstock meant nothing to me either yeah now Woodstock meant great things I thought there was great music out of Woodstock right so I like the music out of it but you know the get on the Ken Kesey Express is it Ken Kesey is that what I'm thinking of the and is well well you know what I'm getting at it's kind of like the hippie tie dye loves thing and then you know we had we grew up through the yuppies remember the yuppies oh yeah oh yeah and and remember greed is good right right we did good yeah and but you know we've had to reinvent

31:32ourselves multiple times and you know we tend to be not trustworthy of authority but we're not outright rebellion we tend to work within the system and you know like we're considered the fixers of problems well we'll see Jan Xers by the way have been the ones that are really not trusting of authority and a lot of them have turned into great homeschoolers you know homeschooling parents for that reason not wanting to trust their their children I got I got trust their children to the state I should say I got a millennial that's homeschooling his kids and if you think that Jan Xers are skeptics of government try an adult millennial it's like in his early 40s and he's you know doesn't like any kind of form of government I'll take that to hard all right thanks Dave 7705633 happy to take your calls on fine your phone Friday good morning hi who's this

32:35welcome hello hi hi Bill this is Francine I am double dipping okay I'll that'd be a little bit forgiving it's fine but you must have wanted to say something what's up I really do yeah when you had the doctor on talking about you know the the what's your name de laurice where to and the others who are all claiming the abuse by chavez and all that yeah by Caesar chavez yeah and yeah now I tended to look at just just at the table if you didn't hear dr. gildacarl I'll put that up on podcasts here a little bit but dr. gildacarl wrote a book called real men don't go woke okay she's a psychiatrist type and the thing is she thinks that this had to do with the Epstein files and wokeness I was thinking that it was more along the lines of he hated the illegal aliens and immigration so you know he had to be destroyed in today's narrative but how are you coming down on it well okay first of all the two do not need to be the two ideas reasons

33:40or whatever do not need to be mutually exclusive true could be both sure yes and my my take be having been a young woman at that during those those times yeah you're a hippie chick you told us you bet that and and and seeing the behavior of many women at the time and how women would manipulate themselves into what they consider to be powerful positions or the one that the the favorite of the the big important man or stuff like that I mean who's to say that these women weren't using him also I'm not saying that what he did was right or I'm not you know I'm not going there it might what I'm trying to say is that women also used there there's there's an himself sexually to achieve the status in many situations I thought in communes and all kinds of things you know and so who's to say that any of these women in particular this this one Dolores Huerta did not do that perhaps you regretted it later who knows but that's not the point the point

34:46is it's not always just one cited it's a very good point and I appreciate you bringing that up too and okay and now if now because you said that now you said in communes you observed this in communes so you went to communes are you lived in communes for a while I lived in a commune in the head asked for no kidding for about a year all right so in other words you Francine you were that drunk hippie chick twirling in the front at the grateful dead shows that was you actually I never liked the grateful I never did either but a lot of other people did but I was not I did not go to I have never been to a grateful dead show yeah well a lot of people like a grateful dead and like fish I know fish another jam band I never cared for fish but you know God bless them they're people to just go everywhere for that kind of studies I know well just you know to break the stereotype image you all right well thank you very much for you take on it Francine 770 KMD it's open

35:47bones here for the final few minutes of the week Friday good morning hi who's this you look hey bill it's Patricia I like ratio got it oh boy I need to know when you're calling so I can always have you now see that's a hippie chick twirling and dancing so long in the front but anyway what's on your mind huh don't you love that it's two C.I. agents that the grateful dead concerts that were giving out all the LSD just ironic hey on the empire of lies yes I just went into an interview last night of a woman who lost her husband on 9-11 that we had jet bush in Florida we had Al Gore running and then we had monkey bush you know that's been enough but Neil Bush was the head of security as you know for night for the towers for the towers yeah and had quit the day before well this woman gets phone call that morning with her beloved husband calls her and said we can't get out there's been a bomb going off we can't get up it's

36:47the trapdoor to get out we can't get out all these young men there was no way to get out the elevators were bombed and the stairway down was bombed this was all planned this before any plane hit there was no plane he said it didn't see any plane it was just bombs that went off in the towers where they were that they couldn't get out I have read such accounts also and I will be the first to tell you Lucretia that I was um full into the standard explanation of 9-11 and what was the lead up to it and I was I was in the conventional box there for a long long time it did take reading alternative books and talking with people that had uh facts that told a different story before I started coming around as something uh to a different way of understanding I am not going to say that there were bombs in there and things like that but all I can say is that I will agree with people who worked on the 9-11

37:48report that um that it was just an utter fabulous fabrication and that it had nothing to do with the evidence that had been presented and that the people uh to this day have not been given a full accounting of what happened that day and I will say that even though there was a Republican presidency it wasn't because it was a Republican presidency I think this goes beyond politics in my opinion okay no it's just interesting you got to break um to make to make an omelette that they don't mind breaking and killing Americans all right appreciate the call thanks for that 7-7-0-K-M-D yep all I would say is that uh I can tell you what the I can't tell you what did happen that day folks it was tragic and a lot I can tell you people died but the reason why they died I can't tell you really what happened I can't I don't think anybody can but anyway KMED good morning hi who's this good morning this is John John and welcome you mentioned you mentioned two people Ken Keesey and teaser shavas and I knew both of them oh you did huh okay now it was Ken Keesey I said Keesey

38:53it's actually Keesey thank you and he had the it was the magic bus right there that really crazy that was the that was the book written about him but he actually I was at the University of Oregon and I was in graduate school and undergraduate school there and he lived on a big farm and he was a wrestler he was a high-level wrestler when he was in school and they owned a huge dairy and but he would let all the college kids come out and he had like uh bails of pot on the table oh yeah and but anyway he was quite a story but teaser shavas was a very destructive person and let me just give you a couple of examples so I was part of the high school equivalency program the HEP program we had a hundred minority kids getting them GEDs and most of them were Mexican kids and he was really good friends with the director Jose de la Isla and he came two or three times a year and he would have our kids go into the supermarket that now is the basketball stadium

39:55to super there's supermarket that was there and have them fill up uh carts with frozen food to take it out into the parking lot so they would be ruined the food would be ruined why why was why was uh Caesar shavas doing that the protest uh labor laws and so forth and that people aren't getting paid enough and that was his way to demonstrate but he caused the the grocery store hundreds of thousands of dollars of the damages in the three times he did it that one year I mean it was horrible oh I had never heard that story I got up I got upset with the kids and told you know tried to explain to them that you know they they thought they were doing the morally right thing to help the migrant workers and I said what about the guy that owns that grocery store it's not a chain it's a local grocery store you just you're going to put him out of business so I tried to teach the kids about it but Caesar chavez was a very radical angry man is there a chance John that

40:55now of course I know you are a businessman of of local reputation here for a long long time working the development side is one of our biggest problems that we have in our schools the lack of any kind of economic sense being taught they have none yes they have none and that description of well we're going to protest there and thinking that we're going to be helping the downtrodden but I guess it's it's still that Marxist ideology that is just uh you know in the mother's milk of government education that there are just uh people who are oppressed in the oppressors I mean even then we're talking 40 50 60 years back right correct you know in another life I was the dean of students at Phoenix high school and one of the things that I did is I created the uh work experience program and it was real work experience kids wanted to go to work for an attorney or they wanted to go to work as with an electrician I had almost 200 kids in

41:56work experience to teach them what it's like to have a real business and I actually taught a class I'm being an entrepreneur but that would never happen in today's world that's a sad statement and I think yet another reason why you know I God bless I bless and give God's blessings to people who are trying to reform the state education system I really do I think I don't think I don't think it's reformable that's the problem that I have but if you're trying to reform it all you're doing is trying to save the the later children the the generations yet to come but if you're trying to save your children or save the current generation everything possible to get them out of that corrupt failed system has to be done I have two examples of the system actually working low-cost charter school I think is an incredible opportunity and it's part of the public school systems every kid there loves that they create a specific program for each kid and the kids graduate from high school also get an associate's degree a lot of them anyway yeah and I would

43:00agree with you but I would I would venture a guess though that the standard that the school system itself would just as soon wish that that had disappeared well they have 800 kids on a list that want to come there right now that the school district won't let them come so there's a lot more kids that would like for that school why can't we duplicate low-gosses success at other schools you don't accept the district won't allow it why won't the district allow it then I don't know you'd have to ask them the other example though of an incredible public school is the John Adams Academy they have five thousand kids in California and they teach classic education was teaching Plato with Socrates and capitalism and patriotism and it's in a public school setting it's not a private school so any kid can come to it and those are the two examples within the public school systems that really would work you know provide the kids with the kind of education you're talking about John I appreciate the story and thanks for sharing the 1960s experience there with Casey too

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46:11probably uh cancel the liability for warm art when they throw away all that food is still good like tons and tons of food to just throw in the garbage and uh the reason is because of liability but you can cancel liability for pharmaceutical why can't you cancel liability for the food that we're going to be needing you know I think that's actually a very interesting question I don't know if that would be a federal liability or perhaps a local or probably us more of a state law might be that I think when it comes to a matter of more of morality it uh it makes no sense to throw massive amounts of perfectly edible food away don't you think I just don't think does ever do anything I'm just saying I just I don't believe they're ever going to do anything about this but I just thought I throw it out there all right and you know hey hey good to have you throw it out appreciate that greatly seven seven okay me D I think we have time to squeeze in one more high K me D good morning who's this good morning uh dentist and grants pass hi dentist what's on your mind hey uh two things quickly I lived on Long Island uh about 20 miles just a

47:15crow flies from where that uh TWA flight went down yes and uh you know that was over the south shore of Long Island uh where millions of people can uh we're at the beach at that time in the evening it's kind of like if that happened over L.A. how many people would have seen it so that's one saying the other thing about the World Trade Center is uh somebody made an interesting point that there's about a 30 or something 30 thousand something toilets in the World Trade Center and uh when that building came down there were no toilets around to be found and you know how hard it is to destroy a toilet so uh there was some conjecture about a uh space-based weapon so I'll just leave that to for you to scratch your head over yeah well I I couldn't say uh yay or nay on it but uh yes I've read similar claims and it is thought provoking okay appreciate that and more thought provoking on Monday morning and if you have any thoughts about anything you've heard mr podcast billmyershow.com email bill at billmyershow.com but we'll catch you Monday after a great weekend

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