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0:00This hour of the Bill Meyer show podcast is proudly sponsored by Clousard Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Fight out more about them at Clousard Drilling dot com. It's the Bill Meyer show on KMED Southern organs placed to talk. Pretty meaty conspiracy theory Thursday talk here, Dr. Nadi Shaman. Just a moment ago, it talked with him for the last 25 minutes or so. And Patrick Wood will join me to continue conspiracy theory Thursday. He's talking about what he sees as the economic drivers of what we're doing. This excursion to Iran is there starting to call it very good. We'll have that coming up here in the next few minutes. Lucretia, I'll give you a bite. What are you thinking? I know you want to ask questions. I just ran out of time with the doctor. Go ahead. Yeah, I'm glad to say basically is originally it was the key later. They read the forecleaning stokes and then also it's, of course.

1:01If you're sure, are you sure you're talking about glyphosate? Because I thought you're talking about DMSO being used as an industrial solvent. I thought that's what that was. No, recently it was like that in an antibiotic. It can kill your death floor just like that. That it's like when they were feeding its pigs, the corn and the soy, they would get up to 80 parts per billion in a, even as an army, general that was told to study it. And they said that at half a part per billion, it destroys your gut floor and we're seeing all the sea bowl and irritable bowel and maybe there's something to connect that for sure. Would you, would you prefer the city of Ashland do something different with their spraying though in the medians? Yeah, you know, if they're going to be this green agenda BS on the rest of it, that's the most important thing. Dr. Klinghart says it's the one of the three top things cleansing the extinction of a event. All right. Well, appreciate the opinion. Thanks for that. I think we have Jean.

2:02Hello, Jean. Go ahead. Okay. Yeah, I've heard the rumors that zinc and copper will drive bugs away. So you don't have to use any of this harsh stuff that affects your health. You don't have to use it because that's the old care that they use to use. Back in the old days when we were intelligent. Okay. Well, have you seen the price of copper lately, though? Oh, well, be careful with it. Be stingy. All right. Thanks for the call. Jean, let me go to Scott. Scott, I'll give you another bite of that fire away. Go ahead. Hey, Bill, we sprayed out on the ranch and we sprayed also crossbow to keep down the blackberries, but man, no, I, no, I think that crossbow. That's two isn't that what is it called to to 1D or what is it called? Again, crossbow. I'm not sure on that to 4D to 4D. I think is in there. And, but there are some weeds that are resistant. You have to pull them or dig them up with a shovel along the dishes.

3:04So it's sprayed a lot to keep and it keeps the grass down basically so it under these huge fires. So, you know, it's one of the other guys. Yeah. All right. Thanks for the call. Hi, KMD. Good morning. Hi. This is John. John, hello, John. Hi, I just want to let you know that Gregory writes phone because he's flying all the way out from Washington, DC. He also said, can he talk Friday night in that's where which is going to do from five to seven, the Rogax. And I want to just let everybody know. Gregory writes phone is in charge of the CO2 coalition. And they're the ones that gave President Trump 40 PhDs to fill all the spots within the government and they're responsible for the government changing their whole idea about CO2. So what time is he going to be speaking at Rogax Friday? He's going to be speaking from five to seven o'clock at Rogax. And he's going to do a presentation. He has a PowerPoint presentation explaining how CO2 we need more CO2 not less.

4:07All right. Five till seven. That's going to be next Friday night, next Friday night at the Rogax week from this Friday night. All right. Everybody did know. All right, John. Thanks for the tip. KMED. Good morning. Hi. Who's this? Good morning, Bell. David. Hi, David. This want to say round and round. We go about 11 years ago, maybe 12. We went to this in Ashland and we voted to not use round up herbicide. We've voted to do it mechanically. Who will hold and pulling weeds and all that. And we would get out in front of the library with our buckets and pull weeds. And and all that good stuff. And you couldn't get anybody in the community to come out and and and do it. And so they went back to spraying the median, which is what they're complaining about. Yeah. Because they have to block the road so that their workers don't get hit by the cars. That's the safety issue that they're talking about.

5:09And so they went back to using herbicides. And so I'm surprised that the that this has come back around. But it's one more thing that they just got to have something to keep complaining about. Yeah. You know, there is one thing, you know, there's one thing I wanted to bring up, though. And I didn't have time to go with the doctor because I don't look at him as a, uh, as an fertilizer or a herbicide expert precision oncology. But, um, there are now types of, of weed killers that seem to work pretty well. But it's not the 2 4 D and it's not the glyphosate. But what it is, it's a, it's, and I don't have it in front of me, but I've purchased some of it before you'll see it marketed underground clear. And it has an ammonium salt in it and an ammonium salt that, um, and what it does is that it makes the plant hemorrhaged to death. It kind of bursts the cell and so the plant dies. But the challenge is that it doesn't kill everything down to the root like roundups do, you know,

6:10which is actually kills the plants. So you'll kill that would kill the grass. Yeah, you kill the grass, but then you'd have to, you'd have to remove it and, and do other meetings when I went to the meetings, I said, let's remove the grass and those mediums and fill it in with decorative chip rock, just so it's clean and neat, or fill it in with concrete and just have semen islands out there. These are those islands with the light poles that divide the, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, and then, and there you go. Oh, no, we need the grass. It'll look ugly and it won't be pretty and whatnot. So I'm, I'm just calling up. I don't care one way or another. Yeah, well, I mean, we're calling to say that we've already been through this in Ash one and we're going to be through it again and again, they recycle the same old crap. All right, appreciate the call, David as always. And I'll take one more and then I'm going to get, I'm going to get Mr. Technocracy on here and just a minute. Yeah, Patrick Wood. Hello. Hi. Who's this? Welcome.

7:10Yeah, Dave. Okay, Dave, your phone's cutting out there. What the, it'd be another time then. All right, technocracy, a connection to the Iran war. Well, I'm not coming up. Why does progressive work hard for truckers? Because truckers unite the world. Friday, then we drop off into the mid 60s this weekend, little breezy for your Saturday. 11 minutes after eight price of golden silver, taking a little slip along with all the other stocks there. Great. One of those situations where maybe everything being sold off in the moment. Maybe you want to sell your physical gold and silver. Yeah, that's okay. You want to do it. Talk to the recognized experts. Jay Austin company, golden silver buyers in Ashland in Grands Pass, 1632 Ashland street and sixth and G in downtown Grands Pass. Like I said, crazy business right now for a 23715. Now, I tend to be one of those people that that look at physical golden silver as the long-term hole. That's just it because I don't think they're fixing the dollar anytime soon. So I'm looking longer term, longer term horizon.

8:13When the price of golden silver dips like it is at the moment, I'm thinking, hmm, okay. We can, you know, buy a few more coin, but one way or the other, just talk with Jay Austin when you're ready to do it either way, okay? I know central banks are still loading up on the gold, you know, that they'll probably like this too. Oh, good. Yeah, everything's being sold off right now, stocks and more. Let's scoop it in. Yeah, the big money always scoops in and buys the stuff when we're panicking with our hair on fire and selling it, that's just kind of the way that goes. But anyway, talk to your financial advisor, then talk to the recognized experts. Jay Austin in Ashland, Grands Pass, call for a 23715 good people, supporters of talk radio and a friend of the show for years and years. Jay Austin brokers.com fortune reserve.com. This hour of the Bill Myers show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing for roofing gutters and sheet metal services, visit Fontana Roofing Services.com and drinks, paint and supply. Extra chewy, extra nourishing, I guess is what we're talking about this morning,

9:16gosh, between talking life is saved last hour with Dr. Shoddy and then talking with Patrick Wood, technocracy.news. This is the gentleman who has been sharing with us often on over the years about what he has been warning about the rise of a technic, a technate in that right, Patrick, Patrick Wood. That's right. The technocracy produces technates, I guess that's the city unit or state unit that's run by technocrats and by the ideology of the of technocracy. And by the way, not only is Patrick Wood there running technocracy.news, which is a great side to a site rather to keep up on this. He has a sub stack available. And what is your latest book on this subject too? So people know about that and get a copy. Well, exactly. My, my latest book was written with the cork to meet Turner. It's called the final betrayal, a cautionary tale, how technocracy destroyed America.

10:17Now you're saying that America, like what passed tense has already been destroyed. In your view, in your opinion of where we're headed at this point, the damage has been done. Can we reverse it possibly, but we'll still be, you know, left with the damage, the hubris, if you will. Okay. What I find interesting is that you put out a white paper the other day and I'm going to put up the information on this pad. And it's about the I am EC the India Middle East Europe corridor. And you have a really thought provoking claim there on your site, on your sub stack, that I make is the real reason that we ended up having this excursion with Iran. And I remember that a few weeks ago when they were talking about the nuclear weapons part about it, that never made sense to me. I thought it was about squeezing China, just like I thought that Venezuela was about squeezing China and it was about the trade.

11:19And you're saying that it's not about squeezing China just, there's more to it than that. So you're putting meat on the bone here and why just at the table of what you see going on here, okay? Exactly. This business of the the IMEC corridor is just called India Middle East Europe, economic corridor. This was proposed several years ago by Jared Kushner, who was the author of the architect of the Abraham Accords and the Kushner and Courses of Trump's son-of-lop. And this this concept kind of just set, you know, wasn't, wasn't talked about too much in the public arena, but it's coming to the fore now because the nations who are trying to get this thing going. This will be the biggest trade route potentially in the world.

12:22And it will, it'll originate in India. It'll go through Aman, Saudi Arabia, through Israel and then onto Europe. When you see it on paper, I put the map on the main image on my website. When you see this map, it's stunning because there's never been a trade route like this in the modern world. And at this point, the idea is this is in Trump's mind is for sure because God's right, straight in the middle of this. And it is one of the route terminuses will be hypha in Israel. And that's just 93 miles north of Gaza. So, you know, this is a big deal. And it just so happens that the trade route needs access to the straight of

13:30Hormuz, this currently, you know, being hassled or taken over by Iran. So this is playing into the narrative now that the whole, this whole thing will be scuttled. The I met corridor will be scuttled. If somehow Iran could keep control of the straight of a Hormuz. Well, that makes sense because if Iran's able to hold sway and continue to allow or deny shipping, it kind of blows the whole thing up, doesn't it? Totally. It really does. And you know, Iran, they're in a, they're in a tough spot right now for sure because Iran needs global trade. You know, they're a big nation. They have lots that could be offered to the world. But they're going to be isolated if they cut this trade route off and the further,

14:33further isolated. And so, you know, they're between a rock and a hard place at this point. And I think, I think the outcome will be, I want, I hate to say this in this way, but basically they're going to be the total destruction by Iran if they do not comply. Well, it appears that they're working on the total destruction of a Ryan right now anyway. But would you? All right. So am I correct though in assuming that the statement that this was about nukes. And this is what most Americans will sit around air. Hey, you know, they're keeping us safe by doing this. Is that just the pretext? Am I, am I correct in your assessment of this? Absolutely. I thought this before I wrote this paper that there's the threat of nukes is just ridiculous.

15:34How many, how many, how many years have we been seeing, saying this, oh, they're just two weeks away, I'm getting news. You would think of some, some photos along the way they actually get them. And if they ever got a new nuclear weapon, they would use it immediately to destroy Israel. You know that. So the nuclear threat is absolutely ludicrous, but you know, this is what they say. But that would certainly get we the people lining up. Now if this is about the big money and international trade and also now this sounds like this would be a competitor to what China is doing with what the Silk Road. And also the, this would also kind of undercut the bricks, wouldn't it? Exactly. India, by the way, is the eye and bricks, right? India is part of that, that consortium. So the fact that India is buying into this game for iMac, that's huge.

16:38It's basically going to split the, the bricks nations right down the middle. And it also is going to isolate China to an extent, obviously, because if China's belt and road initiative is degraded or if traffic is taken away from that initiative, well, that leaves them high and dry as well. And if you look at what all the billions and billions of dollars that China has sunk into the belt and road project. You look at the map of iMac and it blows it out of the water. It's just there's no way they could compete. Now in your, in your paper, by the way, from your sub stack, Patrick Wood is with me this morning. You're saying that iMac, and by the way, iMac, there was a, you write in here that it was September of 2023, the governments of India, the United States, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, France, Germany, Italy, and the European Union.

17:41Signed this memorandum of understanding at the G20 summit in the New Delhi or a New Delhi. So this is not some conspiracy theory. This is right. The receipts are out there. People signed it in the open, right? I just want to make sure that that people understand that. Exactly. Okay. All right. So this is official then. And but you're saying that this is more than just a trade route. You're saying it's a control grid. How so explain that? Well, when we have to remember that technocracy thrive on infrastructure. And this trade route is about a holistic infrastructure, not just to carry ships and rail traffic, stuff like that, but it's also going to be a source of a pipeline that will transmit. Hydrogen, as well as oil and natural gas to Europe. And now, wait, how are you transmitting hydrogen?

18:42Was a pipeline for hydrogen? Was this green hydrogen? If some sort, what's the story there? I didn't mean I, you know, hydrogen is a fuel of one of the few, a few of the future. And apparently India has a lot of it. So that's one way for them to get rid, you know, get it to market. Okay. But the corridor also has provisions for massive fiber optic cables, trunks, trunks, lines to connect all this region together in a network of the AI data centers. And here's the technocrats at work now. And so there's one, when you look at the possibility of connecting all these regions or like us from Saudi Arabia to Greece to India, connecting this through a high speed internet connection,

19:44replete with AI data centers, this is stunning. I mean, there's nothing like this in the world at this point. So technocrats are the ones behind this whole thing in the first place, in my opinion. But it's about global, it's about global trade. There's never been something this significant in our modern history. But this is not in the headline right now, is it? Not, not at all. Is that by design or not? I, well, I would think so. I mean, it's being suppressed, obviously, but nobody cares about trade. Yeah, this is one of the topics that, you know, they just don't relate to it. You know, same thing with economics. People don't want to talk about economics. You want to talk about politics. That's where the fun is, right? Right. So what do you, what do you start talking? You can obviously people, they just zone out and I've got to move on, move on.

20:44I mean, this year, yeah, well, you know, Patrick, the, the thing about this, though, when it comes to economics, I've been, I've come around for years and years and years that are after years and years of observation. I guess you have to that the people I almost pay more attention to are not the politics, but the money people because the money people are the ones that instantly fail if they're wrong. So, you know, what, what they're doing, you sit up and watch and that, and that's kind of what you're talking about here with this India, Middle Eastern, Europe corridor. Don't pay attention to what the, the politicians bladder, look at where the money and the infrastructure is going. That's what you're saying with this exactly, exactly, follow the money, follow the power. And does that mean that this is a, an excursion if you want to call that from the United States government for, for the money? Actually, it's not necessarily the government at this point, although the government in our country is involved, but the thing that's driving this is the, the forces of technocracy

21:48in our government. And you know, we saw this, we talked about this, I think, and at earlier, earlier show, like the, the trial out of commission, for instance, took over the US government in the 1970s, and they said, we're not interested in politics, but they did anyway, but what, what they achieved was to take over the economic engine of the world. And they used that to reform the world, trade, industry, et cetera, and they did. They did it through the auspices of our political mechanism. This same, same thing is happening today with the technocrats in Washington DC. They're using our government as a front, if you will, to achieve these things. But remember, when, when President Trump created the peace board, he just, he didn't do it as President of the United States. He did it as a private citizen. So he's the chairman of the, the peace board at this point.

22:52He can't be disposed. It's, it's a position he'll hold for life. And he also has the right to name his successor, his successor. That's crazy, too. But he, he did this as a private citizen, not as the president of the United States. So this, this, this business of the peace board is operating outside of the United States altogether, even though the president is the president here, he's, he's the president, if you will, of, of the peace board. So what does this mean for Gaza now? For instance, because that was their first initiative to take over Gaza. You see Jared Kushner talking about, well, we're going to run Gaza with, Gaza with technocrats, a political technocrats, he says. Elrads, we will have the experts in charge of governing areas, rather than those pesky politicians that just can't get anything done, right?

23:54Exactly. Yeah. So. So what does that mean, could you hang on for just a few more minutes and talk about this a bit? Okay. AMD. This is use talk 1063, KMED, and you're waking up with the Bill Meyers show. Patrick Wood is with me. And of course, technocracy.news his website. And the reason I invited them on is that I never quite bought the story that Americans were being sold that this excursion in Iran is about the nooks because I remember back in July of last year, everyone was quite happily and it made sense as saying that everything was destroyed at that point. But when Patrick Wood comes out and talks about the Indian Middle East, Europe, economic corridor, which was agreed to a couple of years ago, then having Iran in charge of the Strait of Hormuz would not work under this as a situation. Is that a fair assessment? And that's what you think is really driving this, Patrick. I exactly saw.

24:55Okay. And you have it up on technocracy.news. It's a really interesting read and good stuff there. Geno's here. He wanted to weigh in on this too. Geno, you say you were reading of what presents good morning. Good morning. Thank you for the intelligent conversation. Well, thanks. I just want to throw. I just want to throw a lot on the fire. The book is called The Grand at Chessboard by Zbigniew Brzynski came out in 2016 and he talks about, I just read this short, little piece of paragraph here, provocative geo-strategies to maintain Americans, US dominance in the political order of the world by control and be the sole political arbiter in Eurasia to prevent the emergence of rival powers threatening our material and diplomatic interests. Boy. He goes on, of course, and that's just the opening lines. Yeah, Geno, what do you think about that, Pat? I think Brzynski probably, well, he was far ahead of the curve, for sure.

26:00I didn't like his mindset and where he was coming from, but nevertheless, he was a brilliant fear of Titian and political scientists and he talked about a lot about the Middle East. Now, we're going to go back to dirty politics here for just a moment. I know that everybody likes talking politics because it's easier, but we're talking about foreign policy like this and strategy and economic strategy, especially. A lot of mega people have been upset about what's been going on saying that, hey, going in Iran, this is not about making America great again, but the Trump administration, though, would they be looking at this with iMac as part of of mega from their point of view? I'll ultimately, you know, the money powers getting all behind, you know, in this and yet we're we're sold to build the goods about it being about nukes and crazy Muslims. What do you think? Exactly. I think mega at this point is basically over.

27:05It's so splintered anymore. There's lots of different ideologies floating around that are confusing people. So it really has lost its lustre, if you will, as a unifying factor in America. That's sad. I was part of the populous movement before the election, the last election. So I can't complain on myself, but I don't I don't see that the mega movement actually have and having any, you know, power going forward. Well, that may be okay. Well, when it comes to politics, we'll see midterms, but let's just focus, though, on iMac, though, this is what I wanted to do on what it's real effect would be because, you know, what is the conventional wisdom been talking about? American dollar doomed, 38 trillion dollars doomed, you know, all this kind of thing. And America is going to have to, you know, take the multipolar world. This iMac plan, though, with Kushner and others involved, seems to be about keeping us firmly in control, doesn't it?

28:12It it does. And unfortunately, you know, you have to what is it? The United States is going to be control. Or is it going to be this this international cartel of independent businessmen or that are going to be in control at this point? You have to figure out Gaza is at the center of this whole plan. That's why this we see all this business sort of the piece board and and how they're going to take over and rebuild Gaza into this beautiful Mediterranean city, et cetera. This is the this is the focal point of this trade route. If they can get this established and it's already under construction in some areas, in other words, they've broken dirt. If this can get established, it'll make Gaza one of the most important areas on planet earth. So this is where President Trump is placing his bets at this point. He's the president of the piece board and he's also

29:16involved with his family's financial company called World Liberty Financial. That's a tokenization company that has this has a USD one token that's being promoted as the currency for Gaza. That's the technocratic currency for Gaza. So you have the Trump kind of the Trump orbit, if you will, involved in every aspect in Gaza at this point. And he's not doing it on behalf of America. This is my big point here. All of his family, sons and the son-in-law, Jared Kushner, they're not acting as if if they're Americans. They've divorced themselves from America and they're doing it on their own. That's point. This is very disturbing.

30:17So it does this explain then why a lot of those Persian Gulf nations are really upset about what's happening in Iran right now. It's not about that they love Iran because Iran's been a foreign in their side there too. But I noticed that there were billionaires that were talking about, hey, nobody consulted us about bringing war to our backyard. I think you're right. Certainly. And you see at this point Iran is attacking all of this narrow Arab neighbors. And this kind of shines light on the fact that, well, they all hated Iran in the first place. Saudi Arabia would have done the job of nuking or getting rid of Iran along the way, but they don't have the military to do it. So they're sitting back saying, hey, let the United States take care of it. And we'll reap the rewards of having this corridor going

31:21through our country. And so, you know, I see this as like the other countries and the Middle East as well as they're looking to us to to open the corridor up by maintaining control over the straight of a harmonious. Okay. Which is pretty key given that a whole lot of the nations or the world's oil goes through there also fertilizer and healing them. I mean, I mean, it's key. It's it's key stuff. All right. I don't have, you know, all morning to do this. I'm just going to recommend people go take a read of this. And then, and then, you know, maybe we talk about this again in the future, see what they think. But do you believe then that, you know, when people say that, hey, because there have been two ways of looking at the Iran war, right? You had like the Joe Kance of the world that said, ah, President Trump was listening to is just listening to Bebe Netanyahu, right? But I don't necessarily believe that in this particular case, I thought

32:25it always was about China. But you're saying it's much bigger than just China. And that's what this is really all about. And you, and you're bringing this information out there to people, right? I just want to make sure that I understand the lay of that land. I think, I think so. And when we talk about who's got the money, who's got money in the skin in the game, so to speak. We don't see United States putting money into this thing at this point, especially in Gaza. The United States has produced one dollar. Yeah, it might, may in the future, but has it? Yeah. And Israel also has not put billions of dollars in the Gaza at this point as it, as a trade hub, they might in the future, I realize. But at this point, the hundreds of millions of dollars are coming from Arab countries, not the West. And so you have to scratch your head on this. Why,

33:27why are they pouring billions of dollars into this project, especially in Gaza? You have to, well, the question is, who's in control here? Who's driving this thing? Is it somehow Israel or is it the Arab nations? I will say flat out is the Arab nations. This is where, this is why we should be worried, I think, because they uniformly are set against the United States. And we don't want this kind of a block taking over this trade corridor. So as I'm back then, is I'm back in, in other words, this, this war in your opinion about breaking up the Arab influence and bringing it under an American umbrella. Well, it's bringing it under the influence of the West. I can't say American

34:32umbrella, because like I said, America's not involved. The president himself personally is involved, but not as president of the United States. But yet the as president of the United States, he's attacked Iran, though, which is part of the problem with IMAQ, right? I know. You're exactly right. So the president is acting on using our military to achieve private ends, if you will. That's an interesting, interesting statement there. I'm going to have to roll that around my bean here, Pat. All right. I will. Okay. This, you know, this, this chessboard, maybe a little more complex than, than my, than my feeble brain is able to con, able to conceptualize, but I'm going to work on it. Okay. I really will. And I'll have you back. And just remember, though, that this war is not, I think the takeaway, though, this war is not what it seems to us, the way it's being sold.

35:33I think that's a fair statement. Okay. Very good. Patrick Wood, technocracy.news and the article is up there right now. And I'll just give you the title of it. It's Trump's war with Iran is about global trade period, global trade period. But that also then, if I had a question, though, that also helps us ultimately where he can benefit, you know, private money, private equity, private, private, you know, big money people. But could that not also benefit the United States trade? Overall, what do you think? That's, I can't answer that question at this point. I just don't know. I just don't know. All right. Pat, we'll have you back. Thank you for coming on and talking about it. All right. Be well. My pleasure. Tech technocracy.news. Patrick Wood. Wait, what do you think about them, apples? Not 770 KMED. This is the Bill Meyers show. This hour of the Bill Meyers show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing for roofing gutters and sheet metal services. Visit FontanaRoofingServices.com.

36:38Welcome back to tech.com. The Bill Meyers show is on News Talk 1063 KMED. Now, listen, this special breaking news, Pentagon, $600 billion to fund the Iran war. You got to pay the pipe for some point, right? There we go. 7755633. Yep. Them bombs don't replace themselves, right? Well, I know that interesting times find herself. Boy, that was an interesting talk there. Media conversation with Mr. Tech Nocturus, Patrick Wood. Don't know if I'm buying it all, but you know, these agreements were done, like I said, two years ago, even before the Trump administration was back, was back in the saddle. Interesting. Steve, you wanted to weigh in on that. Go ahead. We were talking about this I met corridor, this international trade corridor going right through Gaza, Israel, right through the Strait of Hormuz, and Patrick Wood believes this is the real reason that the Iranians needed to be taken out. What are you thinking about that? Interesting theory.

37:39Well, I think that whoever controls the Strait of Hormuz can close how much energy China and India get. Yeah, for sure. Japan started war against the United States because we had sanctions against them for energy and scrap metal. These are the things that big wars could start it over. I mean, right now, they're just saying it's not the goal, not the intent to stop the flow of oil in China, but whoever controls that Strait definitely has a stranglehold on those economies. And that's the largest section of population in the world. Yeah, but you see, you know, that makes more sense than the nukes than the nukes theory. When you think, oh yeah, I think so. Yeah, I mean, there was going to be nukes sometime and the problem is Israel is a small place and it's too close and one new takes them out. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. That's what Gadsad said is that

38:45they're just too concentrated and too easy to do if they got a hold of it. But yeah, they've been crying wolf on that for decades. Yeah. Thanks, Steve. Louis, I know you called during Patrick Wood, but did you want to put a period on what you said? Go ahead. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I'm amazed at this conversation. It's suddenly changes everything for me. I was, I was pretty sure that this is going to end up with Israel nuking Iran. But I only know what to think now. I've got a whole new perspective from Dr. Patrick here. Yeah. Well, I still don't know what to think about it. I just thought it's so thought provoking and so against the grain of what is presented to the folks in the regular news channels that I thought I was worthy of a conversation with them to see where he's going. So only I think you should have fun again. Yeah. And I appreciate that so much. I'm still worried about if if Israel

39:45if Israel starts to look in trouble, in deep trouble, which they could. Yeah. Because the run is not giving up and they can and they can do some damage. Oh, yeah. Ron's been very resilient in all of this. I think people were surprised a bit about that. But then you're finding out kind of how decentralized to the leadership was there. Yeah. It's a bunch of different story now, but I'm still concerned that Israel is going to nuked Iran at some point. Well, let us pray for no nukes. I'm going to sound like a peacenick from the 1970s. No nukes. No nukes. I'm waiting on that one. Yeah. Yeah. Cause, you know, good things don't tend to come from that kind of activity. Can we all agree on that, folks? No matter what, although I have to say here in Southern Oregon, according to Joel Scousin, you know, of a of a world affairs brief that we are in a much better place to weather a nuclear storm than many other areas of this country, prevailing winds are good for us. Okay. Hi, came in the evening. Good morning. Who's this? Yeah, Bill, just a quick second nibble of David and Phoenix. I just wanted to say last night, the co author of the book, she was

40:51of your guess. She was on John B. Wells last night. No kidding here, both of them. So I want to tell you, thank you. Good job on all that. Oh, no. Okay. So, uh, Dr. Shoddy Nobhams co author. Was there? Yeah, about about technocracy. Yeah. She was on all the, all the, all the, okay, I get it. Yeah, the different one. She was, she was, she was, she was on, on, uh, on last night. And she thinks that that, uh, that we're already, uh, in too deep that America kind of, as already, we've already drank the Kool-Aid and, uh, we're in a little bit deep. She, she's an optimist though. She really thinks that we could turn things around, but she, you know, it's like everybody's more concerned about who won the Oscars or something. And, uh, she just doesn't see Americans really being willing to, to do it. Yeah. Well, maybe she's right. He's right. I appreciate the call. Thank you for that. You can grab a couple more. Hi, KMD. Good morning. Hello. Got me, Bill. It sure is. Hey,

41:56Matt. How you doing? Hey, I called for kind of a frivolous reason. Did you or any of your other listeners notice what could have been a satellite like in the, uh, Southwest guy last night? No, I did not notice. I didn't notice. Maybe other people did. I haven't heard. What are you thinking? That my wife spotted it. And at first, I'm like, not at the star. And after staring at it for like 15 minutes, and then I got out the binoculars, clearly there were red light, blue light, or green light flashing. And it wasn't moving. And after about 15 minutes, then it began to say to it till it was almost gone. It was just like a little bit of a light. And then it would come back again. And it seemed to be, and I don't know, like, you know, Starlink, we've seen those fly overhead. Oh, yeah. I have to. They're beautiful when you see them. It's just like, you know, a line of gold in the sky. Really? Yeah. This was just one. And I just, I didn't know if anybody else

42:57had seen it. And so I was curious. Well, I'll tell you what, we'll put it out there. Hey, you know, the one thing is you're a money guy, right? And would you agree with me? I pay more attention to money guys than I do politicians these days. I think it's a wise way to run the world, don't you? To really pay attention to what the money people are doing? Well, yeah. I mean, to keep it simple, how does Elon Omar go from no money to $30 million? Oh, it's just, you know, you come from Somalia, you're just that good at trading. Is that good? You know, all like all this stuff that Nick Shirley's doing with the fraud and everything else and then putting the vice president in charge. Let's hope it doesn't go the route of root causes with illegal immigration, but having I've been hearing some stuff in the background in regards to where this fraud thing could go. But I, you know, maybe your listeners have a different take. I believe that half our budget is

43:57just stolen through NGOs, money laundering. Oh, no, I don't disagree with you one bit. That's why there's such that's why there is such a fight to not keep anybody or to keep anybody from looking really underneath the hood of United States finance, really? You know, I'm a bit of a kind of a separate issue. I heard the president say in the other days is, you know, if we could ever figure out this fraud thing, maybe we don't have to have income taxes. Maybe we can go to something else and he keeps bringing that up. So I know it's in the back of his mind. It's been in the back of everybody's mind who pays taxes. So that's that's something I've been looking at. And in regards to having VHS shut down, if people want to understand like level of importance for politicians, look at the things they fight against the hardest. And I know this is probably obvious to you and probably all of your listeners, but when you when you look at the fight that Democrats are putting

45:00up, they keep illegal aliens in this country over everything else, including the public safety, you can't mistake it for anything else. They realize this is their future. If the Democratic Party expects to exist, they can't have to say that path. They can't stop the money longer. And they can't and they will do everything they can to keep illegal aliens here so they can eventually get enough power to just give them all honesty. Those are it's permanent powers. You know all your listeners know, I'm sure, but they're willing to fight to the death at this point. And it's there for everybody to see. Yeah, and we need to be fighting to the death in the opposite direction for the save act, even though they're it may not be perfect. By the way, to your point, though, about, you know, the fraud in the situation, look at this latest prosecution in Medford, they came out with the the gentleman, the Mexican national, the illegal alien who's accused of funneling 15, 14, 15 million dollars of money laundered cash to Mexicans, to Mexican cartels,

46:07essentially, through the businesses here in Southern Oregon. And he's being charged with that. And now I don't know if he's guilty, but there's a lot of smoke there. But yeah, more of the work Americans can't do. I got to run because a lot of time on conspiracy theory Thursday, we'll talk more tomorrow. Okay, Matt. Be well. Okay. 857 email bill at billmyershow.com. This is ensuring