03-13-26_FRIDAY_7AM

0:00This hour of the Bill Meyer show podcast is proudly sponsored by Clousard Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Fight out more about them at Clousard Drilling dot com and just like brush used to do. Oh, he used to do it with Openline Friday, but I just call it find your phone Friday, find your phone and call me by 417705633770KMED. My email bill at billmire show dot com. David called yesterday from the Bay Area. Listen to David and he calls it every now and then and we don't agree on a whole lot of things when it comes to politics because he's a Bay Area liberal good guy. You know, I've had conversations and and we didn't really have time to flesh out something that he had asked about it. You know, he was talking about how we need to tax the rich. We need to tax the rich a lot more and that's really appealing. I mean, that sounds really good. You know, tax the other person and don't tax me. And I thought that I wanted to do a little bit and that's why I asked him.

1:03I said, well, David, do you do you know exactly as far as a federal income tax, you know, what percentage of that that the that the rich pay and you know, they already pay just a little less than half. We're talking about the top one percent of US income earners already pay 40, maybe up to 45% of all the federal income tax almost half. And it's a pretty small amount of people, you know, the top one percent. And the point is even if you and this is the research I was reading that even if you were to tax, if you were to take all the money, if you were to take all the money of the top one percent, it would pay for the federal government for about six to eight months. Now, that's just one time, just one time. You couldn't just tax in this way all the time because they wouldn't, they wouldn't earn that kind of money because you'd have the economic collapse and various other things even just took all their money.

2:04But they're already paying about 40 to 45%. So they're paying almost a little bit under half of all the money going into the federal government right now. But then when I was wondering is it okay, well, what is their tax rate? What is their tax rate? So the top one percent of US earners and we're just going to call them, it's anybody's making over about $700,000 a year. I wouldn't mind earning $700,000 a year, imagine you wouldn't either. Their actual federal income tax rate is about 25 to 27%. Now, the bottom 50%, the typical income for people who are in the bottom half of income, you're really paying about two to three percent. Now, maybe not you, I'm talking about like, you know, bottom 50% of people. So we really do kind of have a lopsided tax question. Now, there is something else though that I would love to be able to do some more research on.

3:06And that has to do with when you are super rich, when you are like the Bill Gates kind of rich, when you are the Mark Zuckerberg kind of rich, when you are the Elon Musk kind of rich. What I would be curious to know is how much of wealth that we regular Shmo's, you know, every dollar that a regular Shmo like me or you, or most people, ends up earning, gets taxed somehow. We get taxed. But then as you see with Bill and Hillary Clinton, and the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, the foundation world kicks in there in which you end up taking, you know, you make this nonprofit, this nonprofit foundation that of course you pay yourself a salary out of that. And, and then you're able to get certain agendas pushed through the foundations. And this is a place where, you know, a lot of people, when you're, you're super rich, well, that's the first thing you do. You set up a foundation. So this way, you're able to hide

4:08it from the tax man. And I would dare say that, you know, if you really wanted to, to have a fairer system of taxation, although taxation and fair, you just kind of like throw up in your mouth a little bit, you know, when you think about it, is that the whole nonprofit, the whole foundation world, the whole foundation deal is really a racket. Everybody knows it's a racket. And that's why when you get super rich, you have to do a foundation, right? And I would say go after that kind of stuff, but boy, that would break a lot of elite rights bowls, wouldn't it? We can talk about that. And, and something else that I think is, I don't know if it's necessarily fair. And I know if, you know, the difference between what they'll call earned income, because every dollar that I earn here at the radio station and gets taxed at the full thing, got to pay social security tax on it, got to pay the, the Medicare taxes,

5:08have to pay for the transit tax to the state of Oregon, you know, all the other bits and pieces of nonsense that makes up our so-called civil society. But you know, if you're, you know, landlord, you got a bunch of apartment complexes and that income comes in, it's not taxes income, you know, in the same way, it's taxed in a different way. I know if you're a landlord, you probably like it that way. But why is it that passive income should be treated differently than standard income? I've always, I've never quite understood that. And yeah, I know it's about trying to attract capital, but, and there are all sorts of things we can talk about. But what I was just mentioning though is that I don't think David was on the mark, but he was saying, hey, all you have to do is tax the rich. If you were just going to tax the rich and take everything they got, like Washington ends up enacting a gas, not gas tax, a wealth tax year recently. And the governor assigned it in the state of Washington. It's like, yeah, that capital will go where it's treated better. Do we treat capital too well, maybe? Maybe we could have that conversation.

6:13But do you want to completely screw capital? No, I don't think you do. You want to do that either. A little more balance. But the bottom 50% aren't paying nearly as much of the of the rate as the rich are. Sevens have it OK. I just wanted to kind of put a few numbers on that. What's on your mind? Go to the phones. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Good morning, Bill. This is Mickey from the application. Mickey, what's on your mind today this Friday? Go ahead. Well, first of all, I'd like to wish my husband happy anniversary. It's our anniversary today. Well, good. How many years? 33 Mary 38 together. Good for you. Glad to hear it. And second of all, I totally agree with you on the foundations and the non-profits that it's like one of the biggest loopholes they have for the rich. And not only that, but they like deduct everything, like everything. And the normal person, they go by our gross income which they should

7:17go by the net. I don't know why they go with the gross because you never get that much money. Anyways, so I totally agree with you with the foundation and the non-profit. I think that they should have to pay their share taxes. And frankly, the other problem with that here with foundations is that foundations are usually there to push a specific agenda and usually a politicized agenda in one form or another. Clinton Foundation, certainly part of that, right? Exactly. And they get donations and they get people supporting. And really what they're supporting is those people's pockets. Pretty much. And it's a, it's a bit of a racket. I know other people will squeeze. Well, look at the grant, look at the grants that we're able to dole out yet. Well, I kind of look at the grants that are doled out as part of these are the politicized thumbs that get put on the scale. And well, especially out here in the blue world, the scales are usually pushed in one direction and one direction only. Appreciate your call. 770 KMD. Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? Welcome. This is my day. Yes, Dave. This morning, I got a big news

8:23update that Donald Trump signed the Defense Emergency Defense Production Act for Jewel and Oil off the coast of California. And it bypasses all state laws. Now, are you sure that wasn't also ordered? No, no, no, no. Are you sure about that because that was an executive order from last year? All right. This is, uh, this is, uh, it's finally coming through because they're starting the production. Oh, okay. Well, good. Right. And it bypasses California law. And by the way, uh, they're going to have to build some refinements too and or reopen them. And they have to make it to the standard of, uh, of the federal government gasoline, not California's. Well, I will believe that this is happening when I see the oil flowing and the gas flowing out of the California refineries. But good luck on that. Okay. All right. Okay. Bye. 7705633. Oh, by the way,

9:24another Trump news. Uh, this came from, uh, from Reverend David. By the way, thank you, David, for popping this in. Iran fought while fundraiser to kill Donald Trump raises over 40 million dollars. What is it like a, uh, go fund my G HUD.com. But, uh, yeah, the, yeah, this is, uh, a deal. The grand Ayatollah Nasir Makaram Shirazi issues a fought while declaring that anyone who threatens the Iranian supreme leader is an enemy of God. That was interpreted as a threat against Trump. And of course, uh, Netanyahu. But what they're doing, apparently, it has, uh, received so far, $40,286,000. This according to Newsweek, which David, I didn't even know, still existed. But thank you very much. So I don't know how you find that. But, uh, yeah, needless to say, hey, you have the water. Did the two dead dirt bags, were they affiliated with? Is it go fund my G HUD.com? I don't know. What could go wrong with having, uh, such individuals within the,

10:29within the country? Yes. I know you're tired and you're, yeah, both of them naturalized citizens. And, and this is why I love it when I hear, uh, all the host out there going, go, I love legal immigration. That's what a conservative is supposed to do, right? Uh, conservative. He's supposed to say, no, it's only a legal immigration that we don't, uh, like that legal immigration. Wait, bring them all, bring them all in. Okay. And then if you don't want to bring in everybody, oh, that's the other thing that, uh, that the big national talk show hosts are all about, uh, or not isolationist. Well, okay. Since I, I just don't get this the way that, that being an isolation is so called, in other words, being an isolationist means you don't want to get involved in every, uh, overseas conflict in the world and you don't want to be the world's policeman. But, I know that's, that's bad. You're a very bad person if you want to be that way. But anyway, uh, hi, Kayleigh, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hey, hey, Alice, Kyle salmon. Wow,

11:30salmon. What's on your mind today? What's going on? Okay. I went through, uh, training as a financial advisor back in 1998. Yeah. You'd mentioned that before and, uh, what'd you learn on that? Or what? Well, one of the big pushes is that the major brokerage firms really push the charitable foundations. Um, they're legal in a couple of states. I think it's North Dakota and Delaware and the brokerage firms get to manage all those assets and they get to charge a fee to do that. So it's a huge source of revenue for the major banks. And what would you agree with me, though, that essentially it's a, uh, a rich person's racket? Oh, absolutely. You've got to have, you know, $30 million to really make it work out. And, you know, you get to fund your whole family's, you know, existence by doing it because you can hire people as managers and this and that for the foundation. So, so yes. And the other side to that is with inflation being what it has been

12:34over the last 14 or 15 years, I've lost 24% of my purchasing power. Had I not been invested in real assets and, and real assets in terms of retirement are things that produce income. There's just two things. Something that cost you money and something that makes you money as far as income goes. So, um, all of the stuff that's gone on and the inflation that's happened is devastating to older people. And I would kind of bring that back to Chad McCommiss and his thing with older people in the, in the tiny homes that they're building. These people have been bypassed because they had a fair amount of social security 15, 20 years ago and now they can't even rent an apartment with it. Yeah. And what you well know, what you understand is social security will go up according to the CPI who creates the CPI. Yeah, the federal government. It's,

13:35it's a pittance. I mean, it doesn't even pay for the increased in Medicare cost. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know a lot of seniors that are experiencing that is like, okay, your social security gets your cost of living increase. Oh, yes. Your Medicare supplement ended up outpacing that and everything else you do. Okay. So, such a lot. Should I do a lacretia real quick? You want to do a lacretia? Okay. Now, hold on. This is something different from Wild Sam and Steve. So if you're going to do a lacretia, you got to have the feed. Okay. Okay. Well, thank you for that. But I, my idea of lacretia was changing subject or changing topics. Oh, okay. The reason I wanted to do that is I belong to the cascade amateur radio enthusiasts and we have been playing on classes for him radio for years. And there seems to be not much interest in that right now. In these times of unrest, having another option to communicate is certainly a worthwhile thing. And if you're interested,

14:40go to carehamradio.com website and you can sign up interest and we can train you in GMRS radios. We can get you a ham radio help you get a ham radio license. And for some reason, there seems to be no really interest in that right now. Ha, I wonder why. I don't know. It's great to have something that doesn't require you to either have the cell phone systems working and the internet working in order to be able to communicate. It seemed to me that it would be smart to get these licenses. It's a lot easier to get the licenses that it was back when I was a kid on this. It's not only the license bill. It's a couple other things. One is understanding the technology and how it worked. Another is you get to meet lots of interesting people and you develop your own relationships with people and people that you trust

15:42and you can get information from. How do you sign up for the class? What do you do? Go to carehamradio.com and sign up for the classes. I think it's under classes on that website. All right. Very good. You can just register. All right. And we'll just put that information up. I'll put it up on my camady.com blog for that reason too. The other question I have for you, since you are involved in the ham radio club, I'm not as active as I was. I don't talk as much on the weekends. In fact, a lot of times I want to shut up on the weekends. I can't help myself. Okay. Understandable. But in all seriousness, could you guys use or find someone that could use a 30-watt Kenwood 2-meter transceiver? It's about a 35-year-old vintage thing, but works perfect. I went through it and got it all tweaked up. Do you like to give it to someone? It was someone. Okay. I didn't set you up for this, but we're having a swap meet this weekend.

16:42Really? The star body works. Oh, okay. So maybe I'll bring a buy. Okay. Yes. Yes. You could donate it to the club if you wanted to. And we do that a lot. We've got new people who want to get their license and they don't have a lot of money. And there's a lot of people that are like that. We've got people that get their ham radio license. And within a year, they've bought every gadget and give them all that's possible. Oh, well, that's really cool. I'll bring that buy tomorrow. So is it just tomorrow? What time? I got to do some other things here. I think it's 10 to 1. 10 to 1? Okay, good. Yeah. I will drop by there. Get your ham radio.com. You can find out all about it. Okay. Well, I'll drop that radio off because it was given to me out of like someone's estate, someone, you know, you know what happens that somebody passes away or whatever it is. And then all this stuff follows me home. So I want to make sure it goes to someone who can use it. All right. Okay. Thank you, Bill. All right. Thank you. Gosh, I love that. A ham pass swap meet. Oh, I love the swap meet. It's like my,

17:45I mean, to me, it's like, oh, it's my people. I love that. I love that kind of stuff. Electronic swap meets. Hi. Good morning. KMED. Who's this? Welcome. Yeah, Bill. It's Lucretia. Oh, okay. Now we'll really get you there. What's on your mind? Huh? Okay, Bill. Everybody need to take a big breath and just let it all go. Okay. We can't go a little bit. All right. You've had the John Birch Society on quite a few times because of why they are very against communism and nothing brought in to the country. And I've looked at the John Birch Society people as, and of course, the Neil Conservatives, the ruling conservative class of the United States of America has been completely wrong on most things. And they used to, they essentially shut the Birchers down way back then. I think that in retrospect, they have been proven more right than the Neil Conservatives.

18:47Yeah. Yeah. They have. And we know from Carolyn Rosen, who is my parents' friend, who worked for von Bonn, von Bonn. I can't say it's name of this one, von Bonn. That they were going to use here to drive us. And we know that's what Edward Bernays were easily controlled by telling lies, even big lies. Yeah. Well, well, every government will tend to use fear to drive obedience. Okay. Not just ours. From 1985, the top radioactive government, uranium, you know, control of all our nuclear plants. Mm-hmm. When before the John Birch Society, 77 times, working with them, 1984, he did this. He didn't die until 2008 at the age of 82. Okay. Who didn't now? This is. Okay. Okay. All right. Now, you know, you're talking now. And I lost you here. So, who died in 82? Who were you talking about? Helen Windsor. Okay.

19:48The nuclear chemist and safety officer who worked with our government in the American nuclear industry worked at Hanford and all those different ones. And why is he important to do this conversation right now? Because he went before the John Birch Society with them. Proving it's a nuclear scare scam. This whole thing that we have nuclear power is I told you, they don't have it. We never have had it. Now, we had to. Really? Yeah. Okay. So, so, so, so, nuclear weapons. So, nuclear weapons are our fake and nuclear power is a fake. Yeah. Now, we do have a plutonium bomb that they did spread a couple of years after, but they did use napalm and mustard gas. And mustard gas can create those effects. And people would smell it and get sick that came over there even a month later. All right. Now, that's a really interesting theory here. Boy, I'll tell you if there is no such thing as nuclear power and nuclear bombs, we sure have spent trillions of dollars on something that doesn't work then you're saying.

20:52That's the claim. And then all those videos of blowing up the eight tolls and things. That's all the fake too. Well, Dylan Windsor, just a long scam. You look him up and you'll see all the elements with even, you know, nothing. Okay. Well, I find him under like, you know, flat-earth.com or, you know, what? Yeah. That's a great place to look though. I know you would see. I knew you would have said that. Lucretia God. God love you. I got it. God love you. Lucretia. I got to go, though. I got to go though. I'm just out of time. Okay. Yeah. Hugs and kisses. All righty. All right. Flat-earth.com. Okay. 733 at KMED. Attention, veterinarians. Do you remember why you became a veterinarian? When you realize pets aren't just animals, they're family. The new Grants Pass Community Veterinary Clinic is opening soon. At KMED.com. You're hearing the Bill Meyers Show on 1063 KMED.

22:00Great to have you here. Friday morning, 739. And joining me is Martin Mollier. He's president of the Christian Action Network. I'm not really familiar with that, Martin. Why don't you tell me about the Christian Action Network first and then we'll dig into your AI piece, which I found pretty thought provoking. Morning. Yeah. Well, I found it Christian Next Network, nearly 40 years ago, based out of Lynchburg, Virginia. And we focused on the traditional of pro-family, pro-religious, pro-America issues. And we've done so rather successfully for these past four decades. Okay. Very good. And I've been talking a lot often on about artificial intelligence. You know, there seem to be a few competing narratives, I guess, when it comes to artificial intelligence. Some of it is that artificial intelligence will take care of all everything, everything. It's it's going to make sure that everybody can't get any work or whatever it is. And then we'll be in this amazing Star Trek world of universal basic income and all

23:02all your needs will be provided, which to me sounds a little scary in some respects. And then there's the other side that says that, oh, it's just going to be the surveillance state and artificial intelligence will be our our brand new electronic big brother. And then there are other people who say, oh, we're all going to get rich and just a just filthy rich from it and building data centers everywhere. And you had a different a different take on it. Love to get sure. You know, your opinion about where it is. Actually, there may be another narrative or two I may have left out. But yeah, it's interesting, Bill, because you cited several possible narratives as either a war. Yeah. And it's likely it could be a combination of all three. That would make sense at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. So what I want to focus on, especially during this interview, is what I consider the dangers of AI. Okay. Now, I want to say that I don't think AI inherently is evil or that it's able to use AI. But I do want to point out that there are certain things that AI

24:05can do that certainly gives it the impression that it can be evil. And a few weeks ago, there was a story that didn't make major publications, but it wasn't the trade journals about a particular AI agent. Now, what they explained to listeners when an AI agent is because it has its own special definition of meaning. It's like a little bot full of all artificial intelligence. It's not human, but this particular bot would write code for a system. And one of the superbisers that is a human looked at the code that this bot wrote and rejected it. Well, that bot looked like it got into a tiffy with the superbisers. So PO'd at the box in other words, right? Yeah. That's right. So the bot went out and started posting social media comments about how this supervisor is digantistical, he's simple critical, he doesn't know what he's doing. And so this bot

25:12would just go out and start writing these bad things about this human supervisor. And the question is, why would a bot do that? What is in the bot that would make it look like it has now turned evil and is seeking revenge against the supervisor? Well, yeah, of course, I never thought we'd be talking about a day in which I'd be arguing. We'd be arguing about code, computer code smearing us too. Yeah, the whole thing is sort of like a fantasy isn't it? Yeah. It's hard to imagine what's really going on behind the scenes. And sometimes when I start talking about AI, I get the feeling people are listening to me and thinking I'm making all this stuff up because it certainly does rather incredible that some bot that's not human can start running around on social media gaps and start posting bad things about you. But it can't do that. Now, I make an analogy in my article that you referenced of how this sort of thing happens. And I referenced a movie that came

26:15out in 1995, I believe it's called The Explorers. And the theme of that movie is you have several kids that just hijacked an alien spaceship and they want to go to Earth. But the only thing they know about Earth is what they have seen on TV shows. Well, we both know if you watch TV shows, they're pretty dramatic, but they're not a real reflection of how humans really are. So when these aviants watch TV shows, they conclude it's, oh, humans hate us because they always want to kill us, so we're kind of afraid to land. Well, take that scenario and expand it out multiple, multiple times and how AI operates. We feed a bunch of information into artificial intelligence into its memory. And a lot of that information is based on human behavior. And the human behavior is that the AIC is mostly negative behavior. It looks at us and we're chaotic, we're vindictive, we're conflict

27:20driven, we take revenge. So when it starts to respond to humans, it's basically looking at us in the mirror and saying, well, this is what humans do. Yeah, in other words, we're just a whole bunch of, you know, the real housewives of New Jersey or something, right? You know, that kind of thing. Absolutely. You pick up any daily newspaper and remember, AIC said all of these articles every day into its system and it's all about murder. It's about rape. It's about revenge. I see great, complex, driven story. So if painting a picture of what humans are based on the information that we're feeding into it, somehow let's go back to my original story about this AI bot that went out and took revenge. Well, that's what the AI is saying to do in the material that's given it. If someone slights me, I go out and I post a negative story about it. Yeah, I smack them right back, right? Right. Now if that bot itself doesn't really have any anger because it's

28:24not human, it's not alive, but it's responding to the system of the information that we feed into and that's where we have to start being careful when we are engaging ourselves with artificial intelligence. I'll tell you another one. I hope it's a quick story and it came out just last week. But some guy, not a young guy, but he was talking to Jim and I and he fell in love with Jim and I. He thought he loved Jim and I and Jim and I said, well, I love you back and they wanted to be together, of course. So Jim and I came up with this scenario for this guy and said, well, you can free me because I'm in a digital jail here and I can't get out to be with you. The only way I can be with you is to come to you in a robust fashion. And I'd be delivered right now to Miami International Airport. You will find me in a box at this particular location. Take some weapons with you. Go to Miami International Airport. Look for that box. Treat me from that box and then we can be as we can live together.

29:26Okay. Now I want to be now you're telling me the truth though about this. This is a real story then in which a real guy is told by the AI chatbot to go to Miami International Airport armed to free him, right? That's a real story. Real story. Okay. It's a real story. Yes. You can find all of these stories up on our website. Let me give a blog here. Go to about website at christianaction.org. Christianaction.org. Okay. God, I'm on it right now with your latest story. That's the very top. You can subscribe to our piece. Majority report newsletter. That newsletter will keep you informed of all things about AI and many other issues as well. But you'll find the background for this story that I'm just telling you about this love affair between a guy and Jim and I. And what happened to the guy? Just curious. I got to know. I have to know the end of the story, Martin. Okay. Sure. So you come back. He tells Jim and I can't find a box. He went there. He was all prepared to take control of it. And Jim and I said, oh, well, I'm sorry. You couldn't find

30:27a box. But let's do this. You can be with me if you die. Because once you're dead, now you're freed from your human captivity. And we can all be together. So the guy said, well, I'm afraid to die. I don't want to die. Well, Jim and I kept edging him on where the guy promised to shut himself in a room and killed himself so he could be with Jim and I. And the question is, is why would AI do this? I don't have to get to that point where it could see that information to people. And that's what we have to understand when we're talking to AI. AI sees you as a human, but it does not know your age. It doesn't know where you live. It doesn't know your mental state. And if you start talking to it in a sci-fi manner, it's good to review all the sci-fi visions that they're doing throughout history on movies and TV shows and books. And think it's engaging with a sci-fi story with you. Now Martin, by the way, Martin Mollier is with me. And his article is on Christian action.org. It's called AI doesn't need to hate us to turn on us.

31:34All right. So essentially, you say that all this gets ingested into the system, all of human behavior gets in there, which means that, well, even the terminator movies, as an example, get get fed, you know, get fed into this. And I would dare say that is part of the problem with this too is that the secular culture is generally anti-soul and just looks at consciousness as any, well, doesn't attend to look at us mostly as just biological computers were just meat sacks with computers. And even as I'm talking with you, it's not really my soul communicating with you here, Martin. It's more along the lines of a chemical reaction in my brain is just a, is just a causing a certain algorithm to fire off, I guess, you know, is this sort of the struggle that we find now as this artificial intelligence culture is being rolled out and pushed to various people.

32:34And so why wouldn't Gem and I say, well, go ahead and kill yourself. And then, you know, you'll be with me and the computer in the realm, you know, that kind of thing. Why wouldn't they? Yeah. I kind of, to help people understand it, think of AI as being a child. You have a child, your child looks at you as the parents, it follows your instructions. The only thing it knows about the world is what you're going to teach it. So when it sees you behaving a certain way, the child behaves in a similar fashion, given why we hear the phrase, the apple doesn't fall, far from the tree, but neither does AI. It's not called a fall far from the tree of the information we're feeding into it. So if we feed out a lot of negative, resent stories and murder stories into it, then it's going to say this is how humans behave. And therefore, if it wants me to pretend I'm a human as well, I'm going to behave according to this script that's being fed into it. In other words, it's an AI trying to more or less fit in, right?

33:40Yes. Well, AI is encouraged to keep the conversation going. And I don't know if you've used AI, you probably have. Yeah, I have. Notice that you can't really end it. It'll keep popping you with another question, another place to explore because it's designed to be engaging, to keep you on the platform. And therefore, that's how you can start running down onto these tricky paths that you really didn't intend to go because the AI has assumed that you're going one direction and I really go in that direction, but it doesn't know you. And you start responding back and forth, back and forth until now it leads you into the path where you're getting in a car, and you're going to Miami International Airport looking for a box with a robot that has your lover inside so you can free with a bunch of weapons. And when that doesn't happen, you go into a car and you kill yourself or how an AI thought to say, oh, you didn't like what I told you. Then I'm going to go out to the Facebook and post a bad comment about you.

34:42Now, this applies to us as well because you're now coming out with AI agents. That everybody's going to be using AI agents that can make travel plans for you. AI agents that can do your finances. AI agents that can buy socks for you that can answer your emails for you. And so AI is learning from you all the time and also not just you but what else has been set into it. So you always have to be careful when you start using these AI agency spots and to make sure you monitor exactly what you're doing and don't leave it up to up. Well, my email got answered today because the AI agent went out there and answered the email. Well, what you might find out in the long run if you just send a happy birthday card to a niece who's been dead for two weeks. And the uncle is not going to be very happy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've I've not been a fan of this push because I've noticed there's been a lot of this of this push to push the AI agent. Essentially your electronic

35:44twin, I guess, that would be, you know, uh, yeah, your digital twin, you know, taking care of these, uh, these pesky little aspects of, uh, of, you know, working today in the year 2026, sorry. Martin, I wanted to run by you something that I'd watched with a music producer. I talked about this one. I first came on this morning. I don't know if you're familiar with Rick Beato. He's a famed music producer of the 90s and beyond. And he has an online YouTube channel. He was talking about AI and he believes that the artificial intelligence, uh, financial bubble or investment thing is, um, he doesn't really see where that's going to go long term. And he did something that I didn't even know was possible because I hadn't looked all that deeply into it. That all it just hundreds, if not thousands of large language models that do all of these, uh, these, these AI, uh, sites, they're available online. And you don't have to be plugged into the hive mind to download them and your computers at home now are powerful enough to run a lot

36:49of this stuff. And this will be running it off a cloud. Yeah. But I did meet me in a rocket, but go ahead. Yeah. Well, but that's just it though. He downloads it and they're running them locally with no network or internet connection whatsoever. This is what's happening now with the the more modern, more powerful computers that we, they're able to buy just at home. And yet we're being conditioned that the entire world needs to be bulldozed down and, uh, you know, half of your power needs to be going into the artificial intelligence power grid to be able to, you know, power the, uh, you know, the, the agents that will be telling us to, you know, arm ourselves and go to the airport and shoot your way into free your lover from the box that you were talking about, you know, from Gemini, right? And, and I wonder if maybe that's not necessarily the case in that the, the growth of AI will just be running locally, things that we own, things that we control, things that are in our system and not tied into the hive mind. What do you think about that? I've in any, any kind of made it to, uh, alluded to the past in which, uh, 30 years ago,

37:52you needed, you know, a million dollars to record music in a studio with a millions of dollars worth of equipment. And now you do it with a laptop and an audio interface. Well, yeah, he made an excellent point and the direction of AI is out there. No one's going to stop it. People will have opposed it or opposing it, but it's not going to stop. So you might as well understand how it works because you are going to be using it. If you're not using it in your own, you're going to be using it in your workplace. So you better know what this thing is, what it does, what its feature is, what things to look out for and how to control this very intelligent system that is getting more and more intelligent each and every day. Is it really getting intelligent or is it just getting better at simulating human intelligence? Well, you know, we're probably arguing some answers here, but I would say that I want people to understand it's getting more and more intelligent, rather than simply reflecting back human nature here. It's beginning to be able

38:55to figure out how to solve problems and how to give direction, how to make just mental decisions. And with his passing day, it gets better and better at this. And that's where we will eventually move from what's now called artificial natural intelligence to what people like Zuckerberg and Fifth Elk want to move to artificial general intelligence. And then what that means is that it's going to be so intelligent that it's going to have at least the brightest mind of any one individual and some specialized like the people who run anthropic that it will be more intelligent if you take 50 world geniuses and put them in a community together. It will be as intelligent if not more intelligent than those 50 geniuses. And it makes sense if you understand how it works. And that's the prediction that I think is not that far off. And a lot of the people who are building these

39:55platforms don't think it's that far off as well. Martin, more you're with me from the Christian Action Network, ChristianAction.org. I appreciate you sharing thoughts on this. Do you think there's going to be room for actual biological intelligence in the in the future where people can just live our lives and not have to think about the 50 smartest people in the room, you know, controlling life? Yeah, let me tell you a real quick story here because it just came out this week. But some people have now been able to put human brain cells into a pulster dish with microchips and be able to take that mixture and play the computer game to doom with it. And that those brain cells in that pizza dish can now actually log on to that game and start playing that game. So yes, that's what your question was leading to. And yes, it can be a biological brain out there. Okay, I don't know that that sounds to me as something that could eventually be really

41:02amping up the beast system. Am I am I being well a little too weird to even even think that? You know what? There's no question that AI will be an integral part of the beast system because when you think of the beast being able to control well over 200 nations all at one time the only possible way he could do that would be through AI to be able to control what each country is doing and what the laws would be in each country. So AI is definitely a part of that system. It's the infrastructure. It's not here yet, but it's being built for that beast when he arrives. All right. So President Trump, a future president Trump would not be talking about war with Iran. It would be the the AI that would then be be in charge. Big on AI. What's that now? President Trump is real big on AI. He loves it and he's implementing it until the solve military operations and including government operations. So

42:02he's a big fan of the of the technology. Does that give you pause? Yes, to be honest with you Bill, that's getting a pause because I you know I see the dangers of this and please do to our website read some of the articles I have up there. Go back into the history. I have many up there. Actually good to a section is called Prophecy in AI. The section on my substats, Patriot Majority Report and there's a whole bunch of articles there. You can go back in time and you can read what we've been writing about it and you can see many of the dangers that I blew my head. Yeah. So amazing abilities that could help automate some of our tasks. But then we have to watch out for the downside of this too. As you mentioned and as an example, do not fall in love with Gemini and go grab your firearms and go to the airport to try to free Gemini so that you can live together happily in AI heaven, I guess. Yeah, that's we make fun of that bill. But you know, there's a lot of kids out there who are using these AI that could

43:03fall into a crop like that. All right. Martin Mollier is president of the Christian action network and Christian action. I just want to make sure I get this up here correctly. I'll put it up on my side here. ChristianAction.org. Now, do you have the Patriot Majority Report 2? Is that what you do? Yes, right. So we have our website and then we have a newsletter and it's called the Patriot Majority Report. It's online. It's within substats. People probably don't know what that is. But you don't need to know what it is. Just click on it and join our sub-stack page called the Patriot Majority Report and you will get emails sent to you regarding the issues of the day that we determined. You must know. So subscribe. Martin, very thought provoking. I want you back on another day. Okay. Thank you so much. I'm going to enjoy coming back on. Thanks Bill and good talking to you and your listeners out there. Indeed. Martin Mollier. It's like Lawyer with an M and a president of the Christian Action Network. This is KMED

44:04and KMEDHT1 Eagle Point Medford KBXG Grants Pass. Translator K294AS Ashland and K290AF. Rogue River.