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0:00This hour of the Bill Meyer show podcast is proudly sponsored by Clouzer Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Fight out more about them at Clouzerdrilling.com. Now more with Bill Meyer. I was mentioning what I was promoting today show that, you know, when war breaks out, we always rally around the flag. That's just the way it is. That's a good thing. It helps us, you know, stick together, have some societal cohesiveness. Okay, cohesiveness, I should say. And the Iran war is, you know, the action in Iran, a lot of support for it. In fact, it really looks like the United States of America's population is about split in half on this with about 20% of it undecided. A couple percent, maybe more on the positive go to war with Iran and do some regime change and about 40% not real happy about this. And so it is one of the most controversial things that a president can do, taking the nation to war. And we haven't been

1:05doing this through congressional declarations for a long, long time. And so I wanted to disgrace with the opportunity. I will walk in junior is with me. He's a research fellow at the independent institute. And he's author of the book Crossroads for Liberty. We're covering the federalist values of America's first constitution. I'm going to have to read that one for sure. But you are a constitutional scholar. Your latest is the independent guide to the constitution. Welcome to show. Good to have you on, Will. Morning. Hey, Bill, great to be here today. Thank you for having me. All right. When was the last time Congress actually declared? I mean, did a declaration of just out and out war. Yep. We're going to war and nobody had any doubt what the country was going to be doing. What was the last time we did that? World war two. Now after that, we do have congressional authorizations for the use of military force where they did take some action. But to answer your question out and out straight up declaration. World war two. Okay. So it's been 80 something years. More Congress has actually done this. What ended up

2:11leading to the situation where he had today? Because what president Trump has done with Iran, I don't think it's really any different from almost what any other president has done over the last, you know, of those 80 years. Where am I wrong about that? No, I don't think you're wrong and the large sense of it. You know, my book, the independent guide came out before this Iran mess and you will find criticisms of Joe Biden and Barack Obama over Syria throwing cruise missiles at the Houthis in Yemen and their presidencies, never consulting Congress. So it has become a thing and recent years that the president claims as commander in chief. What do you use under the Constitution? That means that he can deploy and use force as he sees fit. That's his interpretation. Okay. And that seems to be a pretty common interpretation these days.

3:11Was it always that way? It was never intended to be that way. It wasn't. No. And just a quick little bit of history with the American revolution with our Constitution, with our articles of Confederation, before that, we rejected, in totality, the European model of executive power and war power, where kings and Europe monarchs possessed the full power to declare war, to raise troops, to do whatever with foreign affairs. That was their Bayley Wic. Our founders rejected that specifically, realizing that the executive branch is the branch most likely to lead a nation, end a war as executive prize to grab laurels for winning battles, et cetera. But more profoundly, Bill, they believe that

4:14where republic, we're not a monarchy, we're not like one of these other societies. In a republic, a federated republic, it should only be the people's representatives that send young men and now women off end a combat. So that was unquestionably the framers intent. Is there a case to be made, though, that that we were kind of squishy on that? And the reason I bring this up is that the president's executive power, even though we did not want to supposedly said we didn't want to do the monarchy of England, right? We didn't want to do this. And yet at the same time, executive power seemed to be very kinglike. In fact, well, George Washington was offered a permanent kingship rather than just being the presidency of the United States. So I don't know. Is there a case to be made that maybe the intent of our founders was a little more muddled than we might think, looking at the Constitution?

5:17I wouldn't agree with that because I would look at Washington and his the use of executive power, for example, during his administration, for example, Andrew Pickens, dealing with Indian problems down on the Georgia border, tells Washington, hey, you send 5,000 troops down here, I can take care of this problem immediately. Washington responds to general Pickens. I can't do that because you're asking me to initiate an offensive war. Only Congress can do that. I will consult with them and if they authorize it, we'll do so. And Congress never authorized him to go to war against the creeks. And he didn't. You know, Jefferson gets a lot of flak in these talks about, oh, look at the Barbary pirate. Well, yeah, yeah, what the market, what didn't the issue, letters of mark, what do they call a market reprisal or something like that? I think the letters of mark and reprisal

6:18that only Congress can issue to privateers. But people say, well, Jefferson sent ships without congressional approval and warred on the Barbary pirates. That's not true. Jefferson sent a squadron to the Mediterranean based on a congressional statute, congressional authorization. And anytime he received information or it looked like hostilities were going to increase, he went to Congress and got guidance from them. So I would not describe Jefferson's conduct as being overly aggressive, either. I think Washington, Jefferson, some others have, you know, executive power people have tried to co-op them, but they had a very firm view of its Congress that runs the show with regard to war and foreign affairs. All right. So then let's shift it to the 1970s. Congress ends up passing the war power is act. You had talked about Jefferson using the Barbary, you know, when he

7:20was going after the Barbary pirates, the Muslim pirates, you know, back at that time. And there was congressional authorization is not in essence what every president, you know, in our lifetime at least has done was using in one form or another authorization from Congress with the War Powers Act from the 1970s. And they're talking about what, 60 days. You have 60 days. You go out there and you take the military and do what you need to do with it. But then you have 60 days and you have to then explain what you're doing to Congress. Isn't that in essence what that's all about? You know, that's a fair summary, but I will point out that the War Powers Resolution essentially it starts off with three caveats that the president can't unilaterally commit troops unless he's there is already an act of war. Congress has somehow authorized it. And then with the war on terror, we get a little bit loosey goosey additional

8:21language about eminent, you know, national emergency to the United States. But you still have to click one of those boxes before you can unilaterally send troops in. So, while that's a pretty fair understanding, but unless you can check the box, you shouldn't be sending troops in to begin with. You have to meet one of those requirements. Frankly, I'll tell you, though War Powers Resolution was a pathetic attempt by Congress to try to reassert themselves in their constitutional role after Vietnam, when really, you know, the president does treat it as a blank check for 60, 90 days. Well, you could imagine any executive, you know, Trump included would end up, okay, if we, if you see a way to do what you like to do as far as foreign policy goes, yeah, yeah, you'll grab it, won't you? That's just natural human nature.

9:22No, it is human nature. It is absolutely human nature there. All right. By the way, I'm talking with Will Watkins, Jr., research fellow at the independent institute author of the independent guide to the constitution. And I'll put up a link to that, too. Now, what I'm kind of curious about here right now is that right now we're in the fog of this war right now. And the funny thing is listeners will, you know, write me and they'll say, Bill, there is not a war over in Iran. And I would say, yeah, they accept that it sure looks like one. So I'm going to call it that, you know, I don't think there, you know, if you're, if you're moving aircraft carriers and everybody's bombing each other and base, our bases are being attacked, I would say that's a war. Can we at least settle that as we move forward on this conversation there, Will? Can we do that? Yeah, it's a whole semantic game people are playing. But if you look at the law of nations, like immigrant divide and other authorities on this, our attack on a ran on their territorial integrity, their leadership, under the law of nations, that is an act of war.

10:25All right. Now, can you not say, or what would you say then to the Trump administration would make the claims that there was an imminent threat and that an imminent threat that Iran was going to manufacture a nuclear weapon. In fact, I guess even they admitted they had some 60% enriched, enriched uranium, you know, about a pound of it available, which I guess means a week or two as all it would have taken to have made that weapons grade. And so the Trump administration would take that then as an imminent threat that that Iran was going to go nuclear. And that is perfect justification then to take it to war. What would you say to those claims? I would say under international law, since we're sort of talking about arena, you can essentially we cannot attack a country unless we have permission from the Security Council or there's an imminent threat. We've either been attacked or it's an imminent threat of attack. I would say to that that I can certainly

11:27envision circumstances where I would want a president in an emergency situation to, you know, bomb the heck out of the foreign power to protect us. However, I will say that I thought the President Trump declared just a few months ago that we had bombed or brands nuclear program in the Stone Age and there was no danger. You know, Marco Rubio comes out and he's flipping on the one hand. He says, well, it's real decide they were going to wipe out the leadership. We figured there'd be blowback because we can't control our client state. So we just went to war with them. Then he backtracked on that. Yeah. Yeah. There's a little shaky on that because it doesn't say, oh, wait a minute. You went to war because Israel did. It's like, okay. Yeah. That didn't that didn't play well. Did it? No, it didn't. So I don't know what the truth is. I mean, the founders, I will tell you certainly Congress originally had the power to make war and they changed it to

12:28declare and the debates say, well, if there's an emergency, for example, if Great Britain invaded the United States, we would want the president to be able to take defensive measures until Congress could convene. And that makes perfect sense. That makes perfect sense to do something like that. Somebody shows up on our shore. Someone's lobbying missiles at us. Someone is invading the country in one form or another. Absolutely. I don't think anybody would question this, but this does appear to be more of foreign policy, like a war action really masquerading is foreign policy. Is that a fair assessment of what I'm looking at here right now? I think that's a very fair assessment because Trump's talking about regime change and he's not hate the US should have had a say in the successor of the Iatola. Again, not that these are great people over there that there's a lot of love for us. I mean, but that would take me down that that road then will

13:29about listening. They say they were the great Satan and we want to kill you. Is that not in essence, you know, even if we don't think we're at war with them, they think they're at war with us, you know, to start with. What about that? Maybe that's a, you know, I get out of jail free card when it comes to impeachment over war, whatever the case might be. Yeah, I would say I cannot point to any Iranian aggressive action that Trump can put on the table and show us and the last ever how many years. Now, certainly Israel has a beef with them. It's Iran's a big Hezbollah supporter and I get that Israel, whatever Israel's foreign policy should be Israel first and they do what they need to do. But that doesn't mean we need to back them up or we need to be in it with them. We should have a true America first foreign policy. So what do you believe then is, is President Trump's risk here moving, especially if we get past the midterms here?

14:30I would think that if he is successful and he defends Iran and everybody's happy oil price is settled down, I think Congress would more or less just kind of let it go. But what if it goes the other way, what if it ends up being more problematic as the year goes, as the year goes on? What do you think? And it really could be more problematic. It certainly could hurt Republicans and the midterms because Iran is going to make as big a splash as they can. What should you're doing right now with tankers and other things trying to go through the straits of hormones and oil prices going higher and higher. They're going to try to get their monies worth and flicked as much damage on the economy as they can right now. And frankly, without boots on the ground, all Trump can do is eventually declare victory, hope Iran let ships through the straits and go off from there and nothing's really going to have changed. I would agree with you on that point

15:31only because you really can't dominate a country just by air power alone. And you're not going to really just subdue a nation just with with air power, right? You look at the history of it all. No, that's one, you know, your air power artillery combat infantry all work together in the sort of American system of battle. You take one element out and then you end up in a situation like Ukraine where you don't have, in that case, the air power you've got infantry artillery, but not a key ingredient and that makes for stalemates. Do you think that over time there is going to be an effort from Congress to retain or re retain, I guess, or maybe revitalize its war power action or it's it's war power or war making power under the Constitution in your view. I think if we're going to remain a republic, there has to be because right now we're stuck in this world of red jerseys and blue jerseys. As long as it's my guy violating the Constitution,

16:38it's okay. Oh, you are so right on about this because, uh, you know, we are a purple area here in Southern Oregon will. And when a Republican president is is sending the bombs, then we have the protesters out of the streets of Ashland, which is more of a left wing city. All right. When when the when the Democrats are, you know, our bombing, then the Republicans are all upset and they're talking about, you know, the need to have some congressional oversight. It is quite interesting. It is very tribal, isn't it? In the way where you react to all of this. No, and that's, you know, one big problem in our country right now is it's so tribal. Um, every issues a national issue and, um, if we could just have our good old federal system back, where we local decisions are made locally, we have limited involvement overseas. Maybe we could all get along better, but that's just my take there. How do you think we get back to a congress said reversing their surrendering of the war powers to the presidency? How do you think

17:42that would look? Well, I think it would look one, you're you've got to cut funds off immediately, uh, for this military action to stop it before the president's hands. Uh, two, I think rather than these silly impeachments, we've had with Trump, uh, over the, you know, the his last two impeachments, uh, over the Zelensky call and that mess and then the riot at the Capitol. This would be actually a good ground to have a debate on where proper power lies, whether it be impeachment, censure, or something that ought to be bipartisan. Uh, if we can't agree, if Congress can't rally the troops and say, this is our domain. Look at, we have seven or eight foreign affairs powers delegated to us, not you, Mr. President, back off. Uh, if they can't do that, then, um, Lord knows what they can't do. Essentially any president, not just president Trump,

18:43has the war powers that Congress won't punish him over. Isn't that really what we're talking about here? Bill, that's a great way to sum it up. You are correct. Yep. That's what I thought. And, uh, I'm glad to hear that from a constitutional scholar and the book is the independent guide to the constitution. Can you get that at all the usual suspects? Will all the usual places, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, etc. All right. Very good. Well, uh, are you getting any traction given what's been going on with, uh, you know, the Iran action of lately? I know we're only a couple of weeks into it, but who knows how long this will go on? We'll see. Yeah. Let's hope it doesn't go on too much longer, but, uh, I don't know. There's always mission creep possibility. Yeah. Always that possibility. We'll see where this goes. And we pray for, uh, for good things for all involved here in the United States. All right. Will, thanks so much for your, uh, insight. Okay. Thanks for being on the show. Have a great one. You too. William J. Watkins. I'll put all his information up on KMED.com for the independent guide to the constitution. It's 731. You're on KMED.

19:49Are you a veterinarian looking for something more meaningful? You're waking up with the Bill Myers show. Facebook for some reason is down. That's why there's no Facebook live. Sorry about that, but we are streamed on KMED.com. Everywhere else. This doesn't have my, I pretty mug on your screen. Okay. And of course you can listen on 106 3 1067 105 999 3 during the morning show. Brian is here. Hello, Brian. You wanted to bite on the administration, the VA now talking about civilly committing homeless veterans or veterans. They think that are homeless drug addict, uh, drug addicted. And they're putting some muscle, I guess, into a VA lawyers and they would then be pushing. I guess if you end up going to a VA center and the lawyers think that you belong in a program that they would forcibly commit you. What do you think about that overall? I thought I'd pose that question. The news broke about that yesterday. Well, I just, I just don't think they should force a lot of these people to do things like that, especially veterans that have committed to serving our country

20:55and protecting our country and putting their lives at risk. I did a lot of years of welcome homes down in California right after the Iraq war started 2003. And I noticed a lot of veterans coming home, um, the, the VA solution was take these opioids. It will deal with your PTSD and your depression issues. Right. And all it did was make people, uh, veterans very addicted. And then they became alcoholic or drug addicts and they turned into homeless and, and no one was really helping them other than the VA giving them drugs. And then there's an organization called 22 many, which I support every year. 22 veterans were taking their lives every single day in America because they couldn't get the proper help from VA's or any institutions for their drug, uh, and their depression issues. Okay. Well, to your point, then, Brian, isn't a civil commitment through

21:58the VA, if you're drugged out and and raving and a problem, isn't that ultimately maybe the kindest thing to do to forcibly commit someone rather than let them continue as they had been, you know, given what you just described right there. Well, yeah, I mean, I do think that they should be provided with some help, a lot more help instead of just, should they be forcibly, should they be forcibly provided though, if they're not willing to accept the help being generously offered. No, I don't. Okay. Here's another thing that a lot of the veteran organizations at our welcome homes would remind these soldiers of like the American legions and some of these other groups, boost our moms. Don't put in writing anywhere that you're suffering from PTSD because they will remove your second amendment right to own a gun. Yeah. Everybody knows it. That's the unwritten rule right now. Don't put it down, right? If they ask how you are, I'm just,

23:01I'm fine, right? Yeah, I'm fine. Yeah, that's kind of a sad note, but I know Trump did a lot in his his first term there in 2016 to really stop the over drug addiction problem with the VA. They were just doling out opioids like sugar and it was not good. And so he, he did a lot to control that now, but the end of the bottom line is these veterans need more help, mental health, than just giving them opioid or whatever or no help at all. All right. Brian, I appreciate the opinion. That's why we have it out here on conspiracy theory Thursday. Thanks for the call. Everybody else who is on online, I will get right to you after we catch up on some news and taking your calls on this or anything else on your mind too. The Bill and Myers show on conspiracy theory Thursday, open phones. Winter rain wreaks havoc on your home's foundation. Drive on Byless Road. You're hearing the Bill Myers show on 1063 KMED. Now Bill wants to hear from you. 541-770-5633.

24:09That's 770-KMED. A lot of issues in the air. Let's hit them all. Try to be as pointed as you can here. Louis, I'm giving you a second bite. You called in a little earlier and I just didn't have time for you. You wanted to make a good point on the on the war issue in Iran. Go ahead. Yeah. If I only get to say one thing, I'd say that there's a red online, Netanyahu, quote, that if Iran keeps hitting their country and their cities, that we're going to show them something they've never seen before. Now, the people that wrote this column that I was looking at interpreted that to mean that that's a nuclear option. And you keep, and you hear it elsewhere too, that classical nuclear weapons, you know, they're not really big bombs. They're just nuclear bombs that you can be delivered with pinpoint accuracy, kind of thing. I think that's come, you know, I think that's probably that part of the plan.

25:09Just test out the possibility of using nuclear weapons on Iran because there's no way boots in the ground is going to do it. And if it does, it's going to be an incredible quagmire. We don't know what we don't know here at the moment here, but the one thing I will say is that let us pray that it did not go there. How about that? All right. Yeah. And let's say why are we letting Israel continue to have nuclear weapons and not even be in the non-properation treaty and not even admitting that we have them? You know, why are they so privileged? And yet, that's best their deterrence. You know, that's what they're trying to use now. Well, I think you also have to look at Israel. Israel has always been kind of a foreign policy cat's paw for the United States. When you say, oh, yeah. I mean, I mean, really, it's just been kind of a proxy too long. And sometimes the proxy bites us too. Let me go to Roger. Roger, good to have you. You wanted to bite on the VA. The VA begins this drive to put homeless veterans into guardianships,

26:10forced guardianships, or a drug and alcohol treatment. Do you have an opinion on that? I bet you do. Well, I'm not so much the homeless thing that my son was who's with veteran and he's got some injuries that he has. He was telling me yesterday when I was talking to him that the VA is sending him some medication. And if the medication works and takes away the pain, it doesn't necessarily take away the injury that they're going to start reducing their compensation for the injuries that they've got. And he's getting kind of concerned that he doesn't take the medication. Then then they're looking at it as a fraud issue and maybe just taking them off anyway. So either way, he's going to lose his compensation and they're not really trying to deal with the medical issues that he has. Now, this is a service connected injury. I'm assuming. Yes. Yeah. It's something that happened while he was in the service. Okay. And so they're saying you take the medication. If you

27:12don't take the medication, then we think you're not being cooperative and you're just actually committing medical fraud. Does your son is your son looking for a different kind of treatment rather than just pop a pill and have a good day or what? Yeah. He must have resolved the issue correctly, not just covered up. And my other son, my oldest son, he had an injury as well. The VA boxed him for six years and then finally, his back injury resulted in him being paralyzed from the waist down. Thanks. Fortunately, we had a doctor here in town that took him in as an emergency and he's he's walking now. But his back injury was bad and the VA just kept denying him is access to even the doctors that could treat him. Well, given your experience, then, would you be comfortable with VA lawyers working within that system actually taking over the lives of veterans and putting them in guardianship if they think it's for their own good? They've been hostile toward

28:13deaths for a long time in my opinion, based on just the counts of my two sons. Okay. Well, that's kind of what I was wondering when I hear that makes me wonder. Thank you for the story here and sharing your family story, Roger. David is in Phoenix. David, good to have you here. And you wanted to talk about the the glyphosate or the roundup spring in Ashland. The controversy over that. Go ahead. Briefly, but I also want to comment on the veterans. Okay. Please. So about 15 years ago, we went through this in Ashland where people didn't like using herbicides. And so we voted in Ashland to do a mechanical, you know, prolong your hands and knees like a kid digging, digging weeds and pulling weeds by hands. And that sort of thing. And it was the same thing about spring, the the bull of art. And you don't want your workers stepping or walking around with a weed eater in traffic and blocking off traffic and only one

29:14lane of cars and blocking up downtown Ashland and whatnot. And so that's what we did. All the people who wanted to pull weeds, we had volunteer days. You don't want to get three or four people to show up and most of them just wanted to stand around and talk and visit make the thing. But yet the whole town comes up. What do you have to do it by mechanical and whatnot? You never got the whole town out. And I'm just saying this is just recycling again. I guess there's just nothing to protest right now. That's as big as this will go away. Just everybody be patient and just go ahead and spray. It'll it'll all calm down. I want to talk about how these things recycle. It's just an ash one. All right. Now then on the VA. Go ahead. The way I felt about the ballpark vote in Medford when it was like so long as somebody else is going to pay a vote for it. If they had been for sure, Medford people would have paid. They might not have voted for it. I have a John desire on this. So we do civil commitment for veterans.

30:21It opens the door for civil commitment for the homeless. Maybe I don't care about either one of those. But what happens when somebody calls and says, you know, that David's got a couple of shotguns and a few hunting rifles. And you know, his political point of view is a little extreme in some ways. You're a little concerned, right? Yeah. All of a sudden we can do that. You know, David, we need to we want to just bring you in for just a few days of observation and counseling. Okay. Because your neighbors were concerned. So I'm just saying these things flip and flop. So it's always it's it's a dicey situation. Either way, no, I don't want to be panhandled. Yo bro, you got to cigarette the bus stop. But I'm this and see the same people. But I'm the same token. I'm just saying, I think people need to just take a breath. And maybe the way to go, but just look at unintended consequences. All right. Very good. That's a great call. Thank you for making it, David. You know, kind of looking at both sides of this. All wrongs and grants pass. Hey, Ron, what's on your mind? Well, a couple of things. First, I want to deal with the gas pipeline

31:29issue. Yeah. Glenn Arshambo called in earlier. He's on the pipeline safety, uh, safety board. And he was saying that the pipelines that crisscross Southern Oregon, no, those big ones are going to be going up in pressure and just advising that people really call 811 before they start digging because sometimes they could be as shallow as three feet underground, depending on what the field is. Yeah. It seems very strange that the private companies can use eminent domain to go through private property to achieve monetary ends that the private property owner loses some value because that you got this right away through your property. Yeah. And I agree with you, but one could certainly say that the delivery of energy, which is the lifeblood of civilization, would be a public good, wouldn't you say? Or wouldn't you say better? Yes, but then I would also say that Dr. Pry and Dr. Robinson have come up with recommendations

32:30to FERC that they hardened the grid over the last 25 years or so and FERC has done nothing but stone wall or say, yeah, we'll look into it. And here we have a threat from nuclear, for 11 potential nuclear bombs from Iran. And yet, and they say, well, let's say it's a, you know, our way or the knifeway, then yeah, then we have a choice of waiting until they produce either inland bombs. You know, you only take three of them, one on the west coast, one on the Midwest, one on the east coast. And that's you've got the green weeny. So anyway, well, yeah, you definitely brought us to, gosh, what is it, Bill Forstian's book, one second after, then we're living that in essence, right? Yeah, so we need, I think, to kind of look at the big picture. And that is the long term potential that Iran could have. And it was, is right now, as a matter of fact, bombing boats that are in the harbors and in straight, or warm moves. You know, that's an indicator

33:36threat. They've also, nice, a lot of innocent people cut their heads off and so forth. So this is not a group of people that you can deal with on a logical, rational basis. They have death to America as their mantra. And see, that would strike me as death to America. You've already declared war on us. So that's why I was talking with Will Watkins about that a little earlier this morning. It's kind of like, all right, even if we don't declare war against them, I think the war was already declared on us a long time ago. Of course, I would also say we declared war on them in a different way in the 1953, helping out great Britain with the 1953 coup over there in Iran. So I don't think there are any clean hands. Would you agree on that much? Absolutely. You're right. But then, you know, it's about survival, basically. And that's what we're up against right now. Who knows what the cities have these pre-established nuclear bombs set a cargo container someplace? Boy, let's hope we don't have to find out about that. I know they're talking about, I know Fox

34:40is reporting right now. The concern is maybe some sleeper cells out here on the west coast. So keep your head on a swivel there. All right, Ron, you do that. Appreciate it. All right. See you later. I'll grab one more call. Anyway, I enjoy conspiracy theory. Well, of course, I enjoy any kind of daily call with you. But anyway, hello, who's this? Good morning. Good morning. It's Francine. Francine, welcome. What's on your mind today? Hmm? Well, I want to talk a little bit about not just the war, but war in general. And then I'd like to touch on the veterans. Okay. Okay, so most wars are throughout history. I've been started by false flags on some level or another because that's how they get the people to stand behind them and and be willing to sacrifice their children. Oh, and it is very common. Yeah, you're right. And you have, you know, you have the people at the top and it's a great way to change the conversation in the country, right? Right. And then these false flags are are backed up by the minute manipulative press,

35:43media, et cetera, et cetera. And it's all just a bunch of lies. And that's why if you recall, I last time we spoke, I think I was telling you how I just I can't even come up with an actual realistic opinion about what's going on because I don't trust anything I'm hearing. And it's mostly all just opinions based on partial truths, semi-truth, you know, et cetera, et cetera. So so just making judgments about what's going on and how right or wrong it is, it's kind of impossible to do this accurately at this point in time because we don't really know what's going on and who's actually benefiting except for probably the the usual players, you know, the usual suspects. Well, certainly the, the United States government is and always has been good, frankly, at propaganda. You know, this is well known and this is not a Trump phenomenon. This is nothing new. This is just the way the system has been, at least in my lifetime. Of course, you know, Israel has a news black out and what's going on. Orion has a news black out and what's going on. Anybody

36:44tries to actually say what's really going on on the ground and you're in big, big trouble. So, you know, we're kind of having news reports from, yeah, you'll get the occasional, you know, you'll, you'll see the occasional missile lifting off a United States shift, you know, and you're watching them on TV, right? And you'll see the same frame, you know, fired off what, 50 times in a five minute interview. Oh, yeah. I mean, I mean, this morning on the news before you came on, they were saying how they've now come to the conclusion that there was a, a misfire or targeting and the US did really blow up the, the teenage girls in the, in the school. Yeah, the preliminary investigation is indicating that there was, there was old intelligence being used in that, that, that, that school, that girl school, they believe used to be part of a military base there or a military building and that's, so they're claiming that's a mistake. President Trump not happy about that, of course. Well, yeah, but, you know, I don't, I still don't actually believe the spin of all these things. I just can't. I'm just, I'm so full of it. I mean, you know,

37:50there was, you know, 9-11 and bin Laden was a really bad guy. And what did we do? We went to war with Iraq, not Afghanistan, okay? You know, and then Trump is blowing up bin as well and drug boats. And then he goes to war with Iran. It's like, it's all this style stuff to kind of get people's brains into a, a different place, you know? Well, I have tended to look at, I've tended to look both at this is just my opinion and just take it for what it's worth. I just one guy is like, you're one woman and, you know, we're sitting here shooting the breeze about stuff that we don't know all the details about. And we probably can't know. But I think it is a good, I think ultimately, what's really driving this is, is squeezing energy supplies on China because that's looked at as, as the big prize that needs to be contained right now. And I think that's what's driving it more than anything else. And there has to be whatever justification is made to, to go after China. If we, if we have to tell the people that this is about keeping the mushroom cloud from the West coast, the system's going to do that. You know, they're going to tell you that, okay?

38:53And, and, and didn't Biden, didn't he give a bunch of our oil supplies to China or sell them to China or something like that? If I remember correctly, I forget what the husk did on that. I had to look at that. He did something. He did, he dug, dug into our, our reserves that weren't supposed to be touched. Oh, yeah, no, he did that. He dug, he dug into the oil reserves when there was that last shot. Yeah. Now, the thing is we're doing that too. Now starting Monday, they're going to be selling off some of the strategic reserve to try to moderate some of the price hikes. And we're only about, what? How does selling oil to somebody else moderate or are the price of gas in the United States when you add, when you add additional crude into the system, it reduces the impact. You know, if everything's okay, it ends up if it's successful. Now, I know the IAE, I think the international lines on energy is also releasing some 400 million barrels of oil. It is the perception in the market that you are ameliorating the shocks to it and that you're

39:54making sure that there's enough oil entering the market for processing into the, into the gas and the diesel and the feed stocks and that. And that's the hope of it. The news of that has not seemed to help the price of oil right now, which is still spiking again today. Okay. Question, I might have misunderstood. Is this release of oil going to the United States or to another, it's been sold to another country? I don't think it's necessarily being sold into another country. I think it's being sold domestically into our refineries, which then would increase the overall supply of such things. Okay. But still, but still it reduces the need to, it still is adding to the supply and then the market reacts to that. If everything works okay, we'll see what happens. Okay. Okay. All right. Now, my comments about the veterans. Okay. All right. I'm almost out of time. So make it. Okay. I'll, I'll, I'll make it fairly quick. Mike, you're the gentleman that was on a couple of people before. He was, I think he was pretty spot on about this. The guardianship of veterans, to me, it's simply a way to control them part, part of this perhaps is to get them

41:00out of the public eye. So the, so the obvious abuse of our veterans, the, the not following through to take care of them like they were all promised when they signed up is it becomes less noticeable these days. You know, they don't want people really seeing how bad it is. But then, so you don't see the homeless drug that veteran on the street, then you're not reminded of what we're not doing. They're not. Oh, the government's taking care of our veterans like they should, you know, I mean, like World War II, they had the, the GI bill helping them buy a howlman, you know, the blah blah blah. So, so I think that take and then, but they're taking away their autonomy. And in some ways, I think they're reducing them to the equivalent of foster kids, you know, where it may not be private homes, it'll be institutions. But in other words, they have, they have no autonomy. They are just simply being used and their, their funds will probably be taken to pay for their care and, and, et cetera. So I just, I don't trust this one at all and I'm really concerned. All right. You duly noted and we will put you down. Francine not trusting it.

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