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0:00This hour of the Bill Meyers show podcast is proudly sponsored by Closer Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Fight out more about them at Closer Drilling dot com. Now more with Bill Meyer. Great to have you here. It is. Find your phone. Friday. Join in and 7 7 0 5 6 3 7 7 0 K. M. E. D. The email bill at Bill Meyers show dot com. The Facebook dot com slash Bill Meyer show Facebook fill out a live feed is up there. Unfortunately, it's my face, but you know, we all have to be multimedia stars these days. How you doing? What is on your mind? We do have a plenty of time here. If you wanted to talk about various issues, we were a little guest having the last couple of days. Well, you know how it's been news and two malt and well, the news and the two multi continues. I'll get to some of these stories here. Dan Rayfield back at it again and you know, he's really making a name for himself. I got to say, I'm not a fan of Dan Rayfield. But the one thing is that man, I'll tell you apparently he doesn't think that his job

1:02is to really work to defend Oregon as much as what can I do? What can I do to file against President Trump today? And can I get my other leftist AG friends to join me? I don't know if that's really the way he laughs or not, but yeah, he is suing the Trump administration. He and 23 other states got the ball together and are going after the president's new 15 percent international tariffs. Now those are the ones that he ended up that President Trump ended up imposing after the Supreme Court said, no, you can't do the ones under IEPA. You can't do that. Which Dan Rayfield was also part of that. So I think Dan Rayfield is feeling his oats and he's claiming that President Trump doesn't have authority to impose the tariffs under section 122 of the trade act of 1974. That's what President Trump did. But yet, you know, I don't know if they'll have, no, I'm not an attorney. So I'm just spitballing with you and kind of just giving my take on it.

2:06Given that the Supreme Court itself in the decisions didn't mention these other ways. They were almost like telling President Trump, here are different, the different laws that you might be able to use to do the tariffs. I don't know if Dan Rayfield will be, will be quite as successful this time because once again, it's going to the international courts in this, well, maybe that's why it's going to the international trade court. Maybe that'll be the difference, but we will see about that. And pretty wild time, pretty wild time in the Metford the other day that we had a guy firing a bunch of shots into an apartment complex Wednesday morning. I've noticed that Medford police and other law enforcement groups are now starting to talk about, we used license plate cameras. We used license plate cameras. We used license plate cameras. We used license plate cameras to locate the suspect, right? And do you think they're trying to head off the growing criticism of the flock cameras

3:08here in Southern Oregon? I understand why law enforcement would like, would like just AI and AI cameras, operating cameras, just recording everybody in that way. Gosh, you know, we could just, we don't need judge direct, well, we wouldn't need judges anymore. We could just have maybe the conviction start coming in the future from automated license plate cameras and automated judges, automated municipal courts. Maybe what we should just do is have the license plate cameras just issue automatic tickets. Oh, we do that already. Don't wait. Yeah, but have you noticed that? Have you noticed that? Try that we used the automation license plate cameras, the flock cameras, the ones you're all complaining about and people are going to the city councils and the commission are saying, Hey, you know, we really don't like to have the surveillance state. Now, most of the time when you're hearing them complaining about the surveillance state right now, they're worried about the surveillance state if it helps ice. Now, if all it's going to do is screw regular people and find you and get you in trouble,

4:12then the left doesn't care nearly as much about that, that kind of thing. But oh, if it is, if it might help a precious illegal alien, stay here in Southern Oregon another, another day, then they have to complain about it. But I couldn't help but notice that in the news releases coming from Medford police and others. Well, we usually automated license plate cameras. I think they're conditioning us to think of it as a necessary tool in the law enforcement toolbox. Would you agree that will be one of the topics that I will keep open for you this morning on fine your phone Friday. Happy to take your your call on that city of grants pass is raising the fines. I mean, they are really going after the motorcycle lists on dollar mountain. It was an article in the daily career. I was reading. I thought it was quite interesting. Now, it's been well. No, I mean, for years they've had motorcycles up there, the motorcycle list kind of looked at that. You know, it's pretty steep. It's got some great places to jump and yeah, man, it was just a great place to ride your

5:14motorcycle. But then the city bought it for a million bucks and then put it what, six, seven hundred thousand dollars into bicycle trails and hiking trails because that's what it's going to make us all wealthy here in Southern Oregon, sustainable tourism, sustainable tourism. We're going to have eco tourism. People will come to grants pass in Josephine County in staying a very expensive hotel or motel and and spend lots of money and go over to Casa Amiga, whatever, you know, they're they're going to do that, right? That's, I think the general plan there. And so we can't have motorcycle. It's up on dollar mountain. Well, if they catch you, it's going to be a seven hundred twenty dollar fine. And I know the daily courier article there is there was a lot of story, part of the story alluding to there are many writers who are saying we will not comply. And there's a part of me that kind of admires that that sort of reminds me of the of the

6:19American Revolutionary Spirit, I know, but because motorcycleists have used dollar mountain forever, forever, you know, I wonder if the city had bought dollar mountain for that million bucks and made it with motorcycle trails in mind. I think that actually could have been much more of a tourist attraction than yet another gang green motorcycle or, you know, mountain bike and and trail, don't you? Hiking trails. I mean, if you actually turned it into a motorcycle mountain, instead of dollar mountain, have it be, you know, motorcycle mountain. I think that actually would have been considerably more more popular. Now it wouldn't have been popular for the residents around here, right? The residents wouldn't like that because let's face it. The motorcycles are loud and they're doing all those sort of things, but that's exactly why the people would like motorcycles like things like motorcycles because they're loud

7:23and noisy and obnoxious, you know, all that kind of stuff. But yeah, you can almost see them if they had made it motorcycle mountain, that I think actually would have been attractive to tourism, but it would not have been attractive to the neighborhood, right? We have to make it so you can take your $2,000 mountain bike and go up there and and do your thing and getting your little spandex things and getting healthy and having hiking trails with people. What do you think about that? Do you think that, honestly, you would have been better off as an economic development if they had it as a motorcycle mountain rather than a dollar mountain bike trail if that kind of thing? Yeah, I know there's a danger, there's fire danger up there too. You have to be considering them, but yeah, it doesn't appear that the motorcycle is on dollar mountain or going to be kept away. I don't know unless you have some laser operated cannons of some sort to take them on.

8:25I don't know. Tell me what you're thinking about that. I think motorcycle mountain would have made much more money. The charge them a few bucks, people would do that. People would actually come to ride that. See, people will come to ride that, I think. I don't think they're going to come to Grant's Pass so they can get in a bicycle trail. But you know, Medford does the same sort of thing too. Well, he's green sustainable tourism. Tell me what you think though and anything else on the news too. 770KMED, this is the Bill Meyers show. You're up before sunrise, tools pack. Hi, I'm Steve Potter, Body Shop Manager of Look Your Body and Paint, and I'm OKMED. 23 minutes after his six, buy your phone Friday. Steve and Sunny Valley has found his phone. Steve, I was talking about $1.6 million dollar mountain. It's no longer dollar mountain. It has to be $1.6 million dollar mountain. And they're now going to find motorcycle at 720 bucks if they catch you up there. And I was kind of equipping, just kind of off the top of my head thinking that maybe motorcycle

9:29mountain would have made more money as a tourism attraction. But I don't know. What are you thinking? You think I'm wrong on that? I think that the young guys riding motorcycles would think it's a challenge to escape them. And they wouldn't pay if there was a chart. They'd just do it because they're rebels without a cause. Yes, rebel. And in the mountain bikers, they're not a bunch of old guys either, they're a bunch of young guys. Yeah, that's true. Like to go real fast downhill and run over people walking their dogs and stuff like that. The big problem with dollar mountain is poison oak. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've never hiked a dollar mountain myself. So poison oak is the problem there, huh? Yeah, yeah, but yeah, it's just gravity games for the mountain bikers. And it's, you know, power noise in the gas fumes for the, for the dirt bikers and, and I don't know why you could understand though. It's almost like the motorcycle is the dirt bike riders are out there.

10:33It's kind of like, okay, they're telling us we can't go there. That makes them want to go there even more, I think, don't they? Right. Right. And the dirt bikers will go in a little bit of mud here and really destroy stuff because they got the power to get through the mud and the mountain bikers go there when it's, you know, cool in the mornings and evenings and, and just tear up stuff and. Yeah. Now, I'm just curious though, when you know, now, now, remember this whole idea though is to have sustainable tourism, you know, how that goes, sustainable tourism. Nobody's going to, nobody's going to pay for anything like that. I know. I know, but you see that's, see, that's what every city does though. This is what we think because it goes within, you know, we're going to turn downtown Medford into Paris 1895 with our little bicycles ringing our bills as we go past the, the bakery, you know, that kind of thing. Yep. But that ain't home bike helmet and screaming past oak trees and trying not to rip a leg off. Yeah. You know, the thing though is that when I see motor, you know, unlike mountain bikes though,

11:35when you see motorcyclists getting together and doing things like doing a lot of work, you know, going up and, and competing and stuff, you see a lot of toy carriers coming into town. Big trucks, a lot of money. There's a lot of money involved in a lot of that stuff. I would almost think that you could, you could probably make more money if you had contesting up there with a motorcyclist, couldn't you? Or not? I don't, I don't think it's a good and a venue for it. I think it's like the stand lot where the neighborhood kids go to play. Okay. All right. Well, I just thought I'd ask. All right. Just kind of wondering as they continue to take a $1.6 million mountain and trying to figure out what to do with it. All right. Thanks for the call. Let me go to next line there. Hi. Good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? Bill, this is Becky from the Applegate. Hey, Becky. It's on your mind. You know, back in the day, like late 90s, early 2000s, they used to have motor cycle events up on John's Peak.

12:36And you think it would be, you know, the dads and the younger guys or, you know, just men. But really it wasn't. I've been, my husband actually participated in some of those races. It is, it does bring in revenue. It does bring in, you know, money for at least our neck of the wood. Yeah. Do they still do that? Do you know? I don't know. I don't think they do. Because you know what happens if you're doing anything involving an internal combustion engine, any place that would be fun, well, that can't happen. You're not allowed to have fun. You know, out there. Well, the trails were all marked. They had fire people up there. They had the rescue people up there. And these are families. I've seen kids on their little teeny tiny motorcycles that are probably, you know, six, seven, eight, nine years old. Why, but they were having a blast. Yeah, with their moms, it, I mean, it was very organized.

13:39It brought in, like you said, the top of reservoir road was jam packed with, you know, people with their trailers and their toy haulers and it was great. I, I'm really sad. Now, yeah, I'm a little sad for that, too, if that's not being done these days. But here's what's, what's going on in, and I feel a little bit of admiration for the motorcycleless crowd because I was never allowed to have one. I was never allowed to ride them when I was a kid. Moms listening to your fault, mom, but I, but I would always look at that and it's just gosh, you're having fun. Yes, I know it's also dangerous. I know there is some danger involved in that fire. They have to have certain mufflers on them. It's not like they're just, you know, out there setting fires, but with the fire danger around here nowadays, oh my God, I'm surprised they even let you ride an electric bike out there. Well, the electric bike, I think, would be more of a danger. You ever see a lithium ion battery go up in flames? Oh, yeah. And, you know, Armstrong Gulch up a certain creek trail.

14:43It's mainly for hikers and bicyclers, the people that ride out here still, they pretty much stick to the road going up Armstrong Gulch. Okay. All right. Well, thanks for your update on it. Okay. I appreciate the call. All right. You too. 629 at KMED, 993 KBXG. Cliff is going to join us. Cliff. Senator who is involved in the landlord's stuff because I was posing the question yesterday. Why is it that all of these Republicans ended up in the state legislative session, this short one that's going to wrap up this weekend. Thank goodness. Why is it that so many people, these Republicans ended up, you know, voting for this stuff. Why are they voting for more rules on the landlords? I'll talk with him in just a few minutes here. Hi, good morning, Collar. It's a great Friday. Who's this? Ron here in Medford. Oh, Ron. What's on your mind today? Yeah. I'm just replying to Vicki talking about the John's Peak at the outdoor show. There was a couple out there that had motorcycle riders of America and they have a thousand

15:48acres on the backside of John's Peak. Is that where they do their riding now? Yeah. And they have, I guess they have contests and a lot of different things, a lot of little kids, they said, like he was saying, and they invited us just to come up and check it out. They're putting in parking and bathrooms and things like that. So you can still have fun, at least on a thousand acres here in Southern Oregon. Yeah. Okay. And it's at the top of the reservoir road also. Yeah. I would imagine though, one of the challenges they run into is that one of the things that it makes a motorcycle so great is also why people don't want them around. They're kind of noisy, right? Yeah. Freedom. Freedom. Yeah. You know, the new version of freedom being obnoxious. Appreciate the call. Thanks for letting me know. Okay. Yeah. You know, if you can't be a little obnoxious in society, watch the point, right? Hi. Good morning. KMED. Who's this? Jane. Hi, Jane. How are you this morning?

16:49Okay. Great. Good to hear from you. What's on your mind? Besides coal. I try to get in yesterday, but I couldn't. Oh, well, sorry. You didn't make it. Well, you're here now. Yeah. Oh, if people would actually stop and think, if that information against President Trump was true, they would use that during the election. You know, it's a pretty common way of looking at it, Gene. I don't know if that's necessarily true. You know, logically, it would be because they, it took a while for them to make up the fictional story. Well, yeah. I mean, you're right. You're coming up with a good cover story. But the way I'm looking at the Epstein files is that it was a mutually assured destruction because there was stuff on both sides of the aisle worthy of throwing at people, it would stick. And so I think it's one of those things.

17:49Well, yeah, yeah. And by the way, I'm not saying there is anything on Trump, but I'm saying if there was something on Trump and they, they chose not to use it. I think there's a reason why because of the mutually assured destruction. There's a lot of damaging information in there, a lot of smearing going on on both sides of the aisle. I don't think it's one party that's involved in, in being the, the, the, the dittling perverts out there, you know, but I haven't heard anything except stuff I guess President Trump. Well, he's the, he's the lightning rod right now. It's whatever they can find to throw at him. Okay. That's it. You know, he's the guy in the chair. If he wasn't in office, they wouldn't care right now. Okay. And they're also trying to take air a bit of power away from him so that he doesn't have any power whatsoever, he's supposed to step there and look pretty. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. That's probably what they would like. And if they really thought about it, that can be done to any of their people, isn't it?

18:56Yeah. Now, all you have to do is look at what Dan Rayfield, our attorney general, he's involved in. He's not really looking out for America as much as he is. What kind of lawsuit can I file today to attack the administration to do something about the administration's agenda? And that's what happens when we, you know, vote for, you know, Dan Rayfield. Well, the dictators won't dictate as usual. That's right. It is great to hear from you, Gene. You have a good morning. All right. All right. All right. Now, see, I no longer call her grumpy gene from Wilderville. All right. One more call before news. Hi. Good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? Bill Meyer show waking up the valley. Find a phone Friday, man. It's time to rally. Oh, I've got to fire up the van again and ride like Sally. You know, I'm going to fire up the valley of the van again today. I'm going to get this out. Is this David? Just curious. All right. How you doing, David? I like your rapping. All right. If I was doing any better, nobody could stand me.

19:57God, David. But my buddy Greg would say, now listen, Bill, I got to tell you something, man. What's that? I had the best. Okay. I love your show. But all these politicians, man, I got this question. I want to, I got this particular question I developed that I want to see as you can insert into your interviews. Okay. Which one is that? So you're talking about guns and how you're going to vote on taxes and stuff. Okay. So, you know, do you carry a lot of emotional weight or have you forgiven yourself and others? Oh, you're going to go down there, huh? All right. Well, don't you think we should analyze the emotional health of these people that we're voting for? Um, a little bit. I think I have a control so much. No, I think you, I think we'd be disappointed if we were to go there. Well, I think if you, I think it's thought provoking to them as they're running around to meetings and trying to get money, right? And I don't think all of us would benefit from just a little humanization of the people that we're going to vote for and give power to. And just like, like you just so off limits to ask, you know, hey, how are you doing inside?

20:58You know? Uh-huh. Now, I don't know if I can actually ask it the way you're doing, because you repeat that question again. Do you carry, I'm, I'm trying to type here. Do you carry? Yes. So do you carry a lot of emotional weight with you or, or you say, do you carry a lot of weight with you, or have you forgiven yourself and others, or do you have forgiveness? You could phrase it a lot of ways, but it's just about what type of pressure is that person carrying through light, you know, yeah, and it's really relevant in a democracy. I think it's very relevant, you know, we got people in charge of money and armies and resources and, you know, making policies and voting and, you know, it's a lot of power. And I think I'd like to know how they're doing in their noggin. Do you think that, do you think that most of them get that, um, get that much into self analysis or even self awareness, though? Well, let me tell you, I've had chance to talk to you people like, um, very, very successful business people and attorneys and I've, and I've, so I've been doing this, this

22:01analyzation with similar questions like this and what you will find is you will find a complete deflection from any type of introspective conversation about it, it's just completely off limited. And the more power or money a person has, unfortunately, there's a correlation between how much they're able to answer that question. I've been interviewing, I've pretty much stopped everything for a couple of years. You know that I've been interviewing people and, and this question or this line of analysis or even the direction of flow in a conversation, you will, you will find some incredible, I think you will find some incredibly insightful answers if you start asking people in power. Well, I'll tell you what I'll do. I will do my best to try to sneak an occasional, uh, probing emotional question in and I can't do it all the time, but there are certain people. You know, if you're in Washington, DC, I think especially, you know, the higher you are up on the food chain, um, it, boy, you know, the place is such an evil machine though.

23:03And I don't like saying that, but I think it's the reality of, there's a reason why we nickname it more door on the Potomac, you know, that kind of thing. Oh, yeah. Oh, totally. Well, the thing is, you know, these people, well, you know, I don't know how happy politicians are in their personal life, I think they're probably not, but the thing is they practically make a living and run for office on, hey, I don't forgive anybody, man. I don't forgive the Democrats or I don't forgive these Republicans or forgive this country. I'm angry. I'm pissed off. Wait. There's no redemption for these people and we're going to win and we're going to crush them. You know, I, I don't know if that's true necessarily. I think that there are many who have run for higher office that genuinely have a, have a heart of a servant in them trying to hope that they can, you know, steer this, you know, Leviathan into, into some safer, safer port. And then they get there though, I think once they get there, they're sorely disappointed over time. And the ones that go in there with a heart of a servant, that's all I'm thinking.

24:06I, what they say is, you know, the road to hell is pay those good intentions. And I think without a proper level of emotional health, I don't think you're going to really contribute much helpful to any system. You know, you can't go run for office and have a drug addiction or, or you'll be completely imbalanced in the other aspects of your life. Well, but the biggest addiction of all in our world is power though, addiction of power. You have to agree with that, isn't it? Well, I'd have to, and no, I don't know, I mean, I, hey, listen, I think having, you know, I think power over your fellow man is a heady thing, really is, and, I don't know. I think you have to think, well, power, I mean, we all want like to be successful in business because that gives us power over resources, power to steer our family. So, I got to, that's a longer question. I'm not sure. I'd have to just, to give you honor, to think about it, but we need to pry, we need to humanize these people that have their one stick that they're sticking to, right, and they're talking points. We need to humanize them, and it'll help our community, it'll help our elected officials

25:06to humanize them and bring the conversation on to a little bit more personal level. It's important. They're going to be there for years and we're going to elect them to be in charge of things. I want to know how healthy are they and have they ever even thought about these things? All right. That is a very interesting line of questioning. I don't know how successful I will be in trying to weave some of that in there, but a little bit of it couldn't be interesting, David, you know, thank you for being a thought provoking caller. Okay. I really do. All right. I know you'll do it because you're the best talk show host there is. Oh, okay. See, there you are. You're trying to manipulate me emotionally. There you are. But thank you, David. You know, if we can't have a little bit of Lucy Goosey Fun, what's the point, right? Hi. Good morning, KMED. Who's this? Welcome. Who's the minor Dave? Hey Dave, what do you think, everybody? I'm thinking that we're now starting to deploy energy-based weapons because there was a destroyer in the Gulf knocking down drones with energy-based laser weapons.

26:08Maybe they were testing those laser-based or energy-based weapons over in Maui and various other places that the conspiracy podcast people were talking about. Maybe those were the test cases. Well, you know, I always told people that if they thought that 9-11 was flown in by those people, they were crazy. I said, how about remote control? And then, you know, like all of a sudden they're coming out with all these drones when they started when they started up with the war. Well, see, now drones are cheap back at 9-11, it would have been more expensive. And yeah, I know. I talked with people that were very credible, that thought that those planes were remote control flown into the, into the Twin Towers because they're talking about what incredible skill it would take to have actually put the planes where they landed. That's one of the unanswered questions of 9-11, yeah. Appreciate the call there Dave, have a good Friday for sure, 641, Cliff joins me. Why is everybody hassling the landlords?

27:09They're complaining about no affordable housing and then they screw the landlords again. And Republicans joined in. I'm trying to figure this out. Under Cliff, who is associated with landlords around here in Southern Oregon, we'll have more on that coming up. Oregon truck and auto authority is your work truck and van headquarters, proudly offering Adrian Steele interior shelving packages, partitions, and the best ladder racks in the business. Integrated bed slider decked drawer system to boot to 0900 or rep singers dot org. News talk 1063, K-M-E-D, you're waking up with the Bill Myers show. That's 45 Cliff joins me and he is a man who was connected with the Southern Oregon landlord. It's the Southern Oregon. What is the landlord association out? What is it actually officially Cliff? I want to make sure you get that right. Okay. It's Sora Southern Oregon Rental Owners Association. Okay. And as far as I'm concerned, you're all wearing bulletproof vests and things because the incoming never stops out of Salem. Wouldn't you say?

28:10Isn't that what's going on here? We attack on people who run rental properties. Well, essentially, yeah, the regime, the Democratic regime is really just putting more and more controls on landlord tenant law. Yeah. Maybe we should just get to the point where Salem says, you know, Cliff, you may have that rental house or that rental apartment, but we know better how to run it and who should even be in there. Just give us the keys. You ever thought that's the way it's working? It's working or what? Well, I think it's starting to go that way. But some of the Democrats up there really realize that they need landlords to provide housing. So that's good. I'm glad at least some realize, but the fact is there are a lot that don't, right? Right. Right. Right. You know, I've been watching the legislature since around 2010 and watched some of the hearings and some of us like watching paint dry, but when the issue comes up, the tenant

29:19advocates come up there and they parade a bunch of people in front of the hearing and, you know, it's oh, woe is me and landlords picking on me. They need to enact this new law to protect us and it just kind of goes downhill from there. So what happened in this particular short session? Because what bothered me and the reason you called in and I wanted to talk with you more about this because I was looking at this story about the bill that says that if you as a landlord were to even leak just an inkling of someone's immigration status to ICE, you could be in big, big trouble. I'm thinking, why are we doing this? Why are we, you know, why are we going after and talking about thousands of dollars in fines and lawsuits and all the rest of it? I mean, who wants to be a landlord with all this stuff? Well, thank a lot of landlords don't know the implication of discrimination and it, let me give you a pretext that goes back to last year's long session.

30:22There was a bill, Senate Bill 599 and that dealt with the application process when a landlord has a rental open and they're taking applications. And in the hearings there, it first went into the judicial committee and then went out to the housing committee that's a resourdened judicial. And if they, you know, there was no really landlord pushback on that and it's hard for the landlord groups in Oregon and there's three major landlord groups in Oregon, multi-family housing, no multi-family Northwest and rental housing, a lion, Oregon that are both Portland based. And then my, our parent organization is OREJ, Oregon Rental Housing Association. And so there was some concerns from multi-family which is, you know, they had 300,000 units up

31:26there in a metro area, mostly apartment based and there were some concerns about the penalty that they referenced in 599, Senate Bill 599 and it's, if, if someone discriminates against somebody, the penalty for that and it has to do with housing and any other discrimination laws that Oregon has enacted, it could go up to $50,000 for the first defense and then $100,000 for the second offense and that's, that's not including bully bureau of labor and industries and if, on a fair housing complaint, it bully takes it up from my research on it, the penalty for that and your guilty until you found innocent in front of the eyes of bully. That's right. Right. And the penalty starts at $6,000 to $10,000 and I've heard of other landlords

32:31have gone in front of bully on a discrimination complaint and, you know, it's, you got to get an attorney and you don't want that on your record, especially if you're, if you're not guilty on, in discrimination on that. So, back to 599. This, what they did is the bill lays out what is mandatory acceptance for identification when an applicant comes to you and then they also insert and that bill came out of a Portland ordinance, which I don't know how far it goes back. But the, the one thing that you're touching on here is, and I'll just read from the statute, the landlord may not inquire about the immigration or citizen status of an applicant, a tenant or a member of an applicant or tenant's household and then it goes on and lays out what is acceptable

33:37identification. And it has to do with your Social Security card, I-10 number, individual taxpayer or defendant, identification number, and that's, you know, where the illegal aliens, you know. So, if you have the I-10 chances, you're an illegal alien. Is that kind of, is that what we pretty much know at this point? Yes, yeah. All right. And then other forms is, you know, passport, right, and then this is the one that really slays me, is the passport driver's license or other government issued identification, regardless of expiration date. So, you're trying to tell me that expired ID is required to be taken, right? Of the landlord, I have to accept that. So, you have to take expired ID from what could be potentially the dirt bags of the third world, right? Coming to town, right? Yes, I mean, yeah. So, and then, you know, in a panel day, they talk about the panel day in here, and there's a,

34:43in the Oregon landlord tenant law, it's discrimination as ORS-9390, and then they also reference ORS-659A, which is the discrimination law and fair housing law in Oregon, which was enacted back in 2001. So, this is a growing encircling of landlord property rights. Is really what you're talking about, is that? And I think it's long term planning what I think it is. So, let me get back to House Bill 4123, and that's the one that you've been talking about here. Yeah, that was going after you if you were to even, you know, even if you were to just, you know, look a scant at an ICE officer, like saying, hey, there's somebody here, you're in big trouble, right? Right. Well, the bill, the bill is, what I call is, tenant consumer privacy act,

35:45and there was no law on the book to protect confidential information on a tenant or an application, an applicant, and in good business practices, anybody is in business, should not be revealing private information at, you know, social security, date of birth, and then the whole bottle of wax on that. But then they shoved in this language here where you can't go to ICE or border control and say, hey, I've got a illegal immigrant in my rental unit, and they find out, you know, the state can take it a court and impose penalties against you. You know, I could bankrupt you. Now, my question and why I was so shocked about this is that a whole bunch of Republicans voted

36:45for this bill. And I'm wondering why do you know within your, your groups? My speculation is, and then, because you're talking about the center coat, it was 25 years and three days. Yeah, we had three days. It's like the only three smart people in the Senate right now appear to be Senator Diane Lynthicum, Senator Noah Robinson, and Senator Kim Fatcher. Is that kind of the way you was looking according to the vote? Yes. And in the House, it was 43 years and six days. And I think what happened is, and I'm just speculating on this, but, you know, I'm reading the T-Lease, is that the three major landlord groups, we were able to get an amendment to this bill and put it in there. And we, all of the landlord groups in Oregon, went neutral on the bill. And the other

37:48thing is, is that a lot of legislators don't really understand landlord tenant law at all. And so, when they see that the landlord groups going neutral on it, they don't really read the bill. And I'm thinking that the three senators read the bill, look at that immigration clause, and they can't go talk to ICE about it. And that's why they're going no on it. So, you know, and this is all controlled by lobbyists. You know, it's all in the back room, how this stuff comes out. And you know something, the bottom line on this one, Cliff, is that this bill shouldn't even been in this short session anyway. There's nothing to do with touching up budgets and, and all the other lies that were sold to us by the Democratic party to encourage people to give them that short session every two years. This has nothing. This is something that should have been debated in a long session with lots of people testifying and digging into it,

38:51not just a quick hurry up and get it passed. Would you agree with me or disagree on that? I agree with that. You know, it's complicated bills like this should not be in this short. You're hearing the Bill Meyers Show on 106-3 KMED. Now, Bill wants to hear from you. 541-770-5633. Jay before a seven at KMED, KMED, HD1, Eagle Point, Medford, Cliff called back in because he wanted to complete his thought here on the real sin of this legislative session, the way it worked there. Cliff, I'm glad that you're able to recover from the lobbyist cutting your phone line. Go ahead. Yeah, I know that Gremlin's red work here. Okay, so what I was getting at is in the short session, there's not a lot of time. And as I was watching bills come up in the committees, what they usually do is they give you, you know, three, four, five days of the agenda. And then they always have everybody's agenda as it comes out.

39:55The agenda was coming out on a lot of these bills hours before the committee met. So it did not give the electorate us the voters out there time to react and testify on behalf of the bill or against the bill. Well, I think that's probably the intent fell. The intent is to make sure that there is no input on it. Well, I think so too. I mean, there's no doubt in my mind about it. An evil process. And thanks for pulling back the curtain a little bit on this one. And, you know, the lie of this short session in which they do some of their worst work ever. Cliff, thanks so much for joining us from the rental association. Okay, you'd be well. I'm glad to have an and my opinion does not reflect Sora or or H a at all. Yeah, it's my opinion. I get it, but I appreciate your opinion. Okay, thanks. Okay, all right. Good luck. See him. I think that well, he needs the luck. The landlords need the

40:59luck. Hi, good morning, KMED. Who's this? Hi, Bill. It's Monica. Hi, Monica. On the on the tenant thing. What? Okay, you have these people that have rented from you. They're renting from you. And then all of a sudden, they can't even protect the people that are that are already there. Because when you're letting these people in, how do we know that they're illegal? They're they could be rapists. They could be whatever. But they're they're going to let them in. They have to let them in. Well, you know, it's you can't you can't I don't understand this. Well, the the point being though is that even if that essentially you divulge nothing, you see nothing, you you really can't say much of anything from the sounds of it. What what Cliff was that's what I'm getting from it. And I'm going, you know, hey, I'm 77 years old that I rent. Who's

42:00going to come in next door to me? Yeah. Well, I've already had landlords that or people that would be in rental apartments in which they'd be complaining about, you know, criminal dirt bags in their in their complexes in which, you know, very little seems to be done these days. And this just seems to be and I'm wondering if you have landlords that are taking a dive because of so-called anti discrimination laws, you know, all these kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for sharing your thought on that one. I'll take one more call. It will get into news and some other things here. Hi. Good morning. KMED. Who's this? It's Army. Yeah. Hi, Army. What's up? Listen, if these people are illegals and their fugitives from being caught by the law, isn't that harboring a criminal love of status trying to get through? It would appear that in a sanctuary state such as Oregon, that is not, that doesn't apply, you know, harboring a fugitive, I guess doesn't matter.

43:04In fact, I wanted to raise this to you. This was a story that was in KDRV. Senate Democrats rejected a proposal that aimed to coordinate state and federal efforts in handling illegal immigrants convicted of felony crimes with named victims. They wouldn't even go there, Army. They wouldn't even go there. You know, so we're talking about known illegals, felony crimes, named victims, and no, sanctuary state still applies. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So that's the truth of it. And I have to tell you, the love being shown for people who have actually harmed other people, it's, you know, I don't know where this emotional and moral inversion comes from, other than the fact that there are some under the influence of a satanic, of some satanic political cult of some sort. I don't know. I know that sounds weird, but I'll take one more call before news. Hi, good morning.

44:07This is Bill. You know, Bill, this is Bill from Lil Grimmer. Hi, Phil. But I was in the process of calling you, when I think this last touch or color touched on it was that they're forcing landlords to become aiders and a better of illegal immigrant. Yes. That is essentially what the state of Oregon has been doing. Yeah. You're going to stay quiet. You're not going to say anything, otherwise anti-discrimination law will come after you and we can bankrupt you. It's essentially what we're hearing here. Yeah, but they're they're turning the landlord into criminals federally. Oh, but they're turning them into heroes in the state of Oregon. The landlords, the landlords are protecting our, this is the kind of nonsense you'll always hear when you talk about that. The immigrant community, they're protecting the immigrant community, Phil. Just remember. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wash rinse and repeat, but I appreciate your call. Okay. KMED KMED HD one, Eagle Point Medford KBXG grants pass. A New York attorney joins me here

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